View Full Version : I franlkly don't get it (This is towards no one at all, I swear)
Dragula
06-17-2008, 05:37 PM
I don't get why people totally freak out if they buy a DVD or watch a movie in fullscreen. You can change the raito settings ya know. And yeah sure widescreen is the true way to go with films and if they're not in widescreen its runied but still. Sorry but I just frankly don't get it.
LordSimen
06-17-2008, 05:42 PM
I don't get people freaking out about it either- Unless it said otherwise on the packaging it was pretty much your mistake you bought it. If it was a present, well then nothing to freak out about either. In that case it was free.
I have a couple full screen dvd's but mostly it's for movies that were actually shot in full screen or no other dvd has been released for 'em yet. If one with widescreen comes out, I just go buy another one. No big deal.
Le_Big_Mac
06-17-2008, 05:47 PM
I don't get why people totally freak out if they buy a DVD or watch a movie in fullscreen. You can change the raito settings ya know. And yeah sure widescreen is the true way to go with films and if they're not in widescreen its runied but still. Sorry but I just frankly don't get it.
I think you answered the question for yourself. They still have themselves to blame though.
X-Nightcrawler
06-17-2008, 05:52 PM
Ya kiddin'? If you don't watch the movie in widescreen (you know, how the DIRECTOR INTENDED IT TO BE), you're not a real movie fan.
Gawd.
LordSimen
06-17-2008, 05:59 PM
Ya kiddin'? If you don't watch the movie in widescreen (you know, how the DIRECTOR INTENDED IT TO BE), you're not a real movie fan.
Gawd.
Here's an interesting fact, Beyond Re-animator was shot in full screen as a choice by the director. The DVD out there with the wide screen feature actually literally just cuts off the top and bottom of the frame.
Sometimes Widescreen may not be the way the director intended it to be- But that's usually a rare care. Haha.
:D
someguy
06-17-2008, 06:00 PM
I made this mistake with Children of Men, the thought never really crossed my mind when I got it since I'm so used to getting widescreen (I mostly buy dvds online).
But I don't get the 'you can change ratio settings' bit of what you're saying. The DVD I bought was strictly FS, there was no WS option. I hate FS because it's terrible and I own a WS TV.
Since no one will disagree with me on this, you aren't a movie fan if you think FS is better than WS (everyone will agree that WS looks better than FS). Of course, I'm referring to WS films that are given the pan and scan treatment and not films intentionally shot in FS since that's just silly. If you think FS is better than WS though, I respond with this youtube of Sydney Pollack explaining why WS is better.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tEPAgNrvZaw
You can't argue with a dead man now, can you?
CyclicNightmare
06-17-2008, 06:32 PM
Movies are meant to be seen in their original aspect ratio. If that means older movies are fullscreen, that's fine.
I hate it when a movie is shot in something like 1:1.85 and then the DVD is 1: 1.78. I think this happened with one of the Saw's. It should never happen.
Fullscreen shouldn't even be an option for movies that weren't shot that way.
FLAME_ON
06-17-2008, 07:04 PM
Well if the movie has a 2.39:1, you're literally missing out on a little less than half the original picture. I don't like that. Pan and scan is extremely annoying to watch. And I hate stretching the image if I watch something full screen on my HDTV; but I also hate the black bars when I leave it at 4:3. Fullscreen sucks.
Lebowski707
06-17-2008, 07:42 PM
I don't get why people totally freak out if they buy a DVD or watch a movie in fullscreen. You can change the raito settings ya know. And yeah sure widescreen is the true way to go with films and if they're not in widescreen its runied but still. Sorry but I just frankly don't get it.
You said it yourself that widescreen is ruined. It sounds like all you needed to do was say it out loud.
Rated R
06-17-2008, 10:25 PM
More people I talk to freak out when they get a widescreen movie instead. I cringe and bite my tongue any time someone says something to the effect of "I hate those black bars, they cut out the picture."
I live in a small town, and one of the video stores will sometimes get fullscreen only for some titles...blows my mind. I'm all for casual film watchers getting their fullscreen, but damnit I want widescreen if I be renting! I just make sure to verify I got the right copy, not hard to do.
pablo_super1!
06-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Yea I hate fullscreen and would never watch a movie unless it was shot like that, which almost no films are. I wish that movies would only be released in the Aspect Ratio that they are meant to be in.
If I buy DVD that's in fullscreen, I get really pissed, but it is my fault.
And I whole heartedly agree Rated R I hate that.
The Postmaster General
06-18-2008, 03:09 AM
Some widescreen movies are framed to be shown in fullscreen, so it all depends on the film for me. I generally always shoot for the movie in its original aspect ratio, but some movie genuinely matter more than others.
KcMsterpce
06-18-2008, 03:54 AM
I want to watch a movie in whatever format that was originally intended.
I don't care about black bars in any of these setups. I just hate when originally filmed ratios are fucked with. Period.
Draccoca
06-18-2008, 08:41 AM
I don't freak out or get upset if I happen to pick up a movie in fullscreen. I'll still watch it and replace it in a widescreen format when i can find one. (thank god I buy my movies used)
It depends on the tv you use. I had a 27 inch crt for the longest time and whenever i watched a widescreen movie it would be so small that my eyes would start hurting. And forget trying to watch a movie with sub titles. Now I have a 47 inch plasma and a 37 inch plasma to watch my movies on, so widescreen is my preference without the eye strain.
DodgersFan11
06-18-2008, 11:21 AM
I prefer widescreen but in all honesty full screen does not bother me. Once I get into the movie I usually forget about the format it's being shown in.
vesaker
06-18-2008, 11:42 AM
You can change the raito settings ya know.
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the aspect ratio on your TV and not the movie itself. You can change the way your TV displays the movie but that just stretches the FS image to the size of WS which is not the same as a movie that is presented in widescreen on the DvD.
There are special editions that have both the FS and WS on the same disc so in that way you can change it, but otherwise you're thinking of hte TV display me thinks.
Tweek
06-18-2008, 02:19 PM
Movies are meant to be seen in their original aspect ratio. If that means older movies are fullscreen, that's fine.
I hate it when a movie is shot in something like 1:1.85 and then the DVD is 1: 1.78. I think this happened with one of the Saw's. It should never happen.
Fullscreen shouldn't even be an option for movies that weren't shot that way.
I agree.:cool:
Lebowski707
06-18-2008, 07:34 PM
I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the aspect ratio on your TV and not the movie itself. You can change the way your TV displays the movie but that just stretches the FS image to the size of WS which is not the same as a movie that is presented in widescreen on the DvD.
I agree that that movies should be played in their original ratio but tell me if I am mistaken but I thought all movies were shot for the big screen which is widescreen.
Whenever I try and change the ration on my TV it totally screws up the picture and pisses me off. So I guess the answer is that everyone should just buy widescreen TV's and this discussion can be over.
Digifruitella
06-18-2008, 07:39 PM
I don't get why people totally freak out if they buy a DVD or watch a movie in fullscreen. You can change the raito settings ya know.
You probably can, on most of the new tvs, but don't forget. FULLSCREEN = PAN & SCAN. Even if you change the ratio to 16:9 on your TV, that wouldn't be the original "widescreen" it'll be squeezed to look like it is, that, and it's cropped. Unless I'm totally mistaken.
watch how pan & scan works http://youtube.com/watch?v=ETGfeSim1K4&feature=related
starcat
06-18-2008, 10:41 PM
on a small screen tv i like full screen, wide screen makes things too hard to see. but on my big tv in the living room its wide screen all the way... so im glad they do both.
mutesaint
06-18-2008, 11:00 PM
Guys...really think about it, will you ever be able to 'change' the ratio of the tv? The screen itself would have to change dimensions. Yes you can display multiple different dimensions, but it just alters the size of the bars. Only in projector technology is it actually feasable to change the ratio so you can see everything and there are no black bars ever.
*edited for spelling
Shinigami
06-19-2008, 09:46 AM
I remember that I had some trouble with widescreen when it first came out. Eventually I got used to the smaller picture, but like everyone else here, I've known people who wouldn't even watch a movie if its picture is widescreen. Some aspects are easier on the eyes.
By the way, has anyone wondered what you miss with fullscreen crop on a widescreen movie? I know the technical dimensions, I just want to know if there are any movies where some important detail/effect is actually cropped out in fullscreen. I'm just curious.
Natty
06-19-2008, 11:15 AM
This may sound stupid but I don't get the whole 'widescreen v. fullscreen' thing. What if people get a small TV because they are too poor for a widescreen; they can't enjoy the movie?:confused:
As the above poster suggests, there are some movies in which it is possible to miss potentially important content, but I think it's fine all the same.
CyclicNightmare
06-19-2008, 12:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMJhM3So4y8
Le_Big_Mac
06-19-2008, 04:34 PM
This may sound stupid but I don't get the whole 'widescreen v. fullscreen' thing. What if people get a small TV because they are too poor for a widescreen; they can't enjoy the movie?:confused:
Widescreen DVDs don't cost any more than fullscreen DVDs.
As the above poster suggests, there are some movies in which it is possible to miss potentially important content, but I think it's fine all the same.
More important than that is that the editor sometimes has to separate a shot or turn it from a static shot to a moving shot just to catch all the content that is important. It ruins the director's art.
NathanRomano
06-19-2008, 04:36 PM
Widescreen DVDs don't cost any more than fullscreen DVDs.
I believe he's talking about TV's.
Le_Big_Mac
06-19-2008, 04:43 PM
I'm not sure if he's talking about watching a movie on a small TV on a DVD or on cable television (at least not on TCM).
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