We Were Busy in Iraq, Meanwhile...

[MadsenOMC]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D91IJUOO5&show_article=1

http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1093-More-Combat-Deaths-in-Afghanistan-Than-in-Iraq.html

[Elgyn]

Iraq has oil.

[MadsenOMC]

Iraq has oil.

So I've heard.

[Homyrrh]

This wouldn't have anything to do with 'The Shock Doctrine', would it?

[MadsenOMC]

This wouldn't have anything to do with 'The Shock Doctrine', would it?

No.

[Homyrrh]

That's good. I didn't read your articles yet. :P

[SpoonMan999]

It's simple, we have to commit more to Iraq because we're trying to stablize a nation while Afghanistan is pretty much one big terrorist hunt. I'm not surprised at all.

[Elgyn]

It's simple, we have to commit more to Iraq because we're trying to stablize a nation while Afghanistan is pretty much one big terrorist hunt. I'm not surprised at all.



And the fact that Iraq is more profitable (jobs, military equipment, etc.) has nothing to do with it.


If you`re thirsty, I have some right-wing Kool Aid for you.

[MadsenOMC]

And the fact that Iraq is more profitable (jobs, military equipment, etc.) has nothing to do with it.


If you`re thirsty, I have some right-wing Kool Aid for you.

No shit man. Like that is an excuse for letting Afghanistan go to shit.

Stabilizing Iraq has been a smash success.

[Homyrrh]

No shit man. Like that is an excuse for letting Afghanistan go to shit.

Stabilizing Iraq has been a smash success.
Unfortunately, as much as the war can be despised, and admittedly legitimately, the fact is that the government must do something to restore the nation. We must finish what we started at least, and though it may be going inexcusably awful right now, I'm not sure it's quite so prudent to say everyone can come home and forget about it.

One further reality is that the oil, the jobs, the hopeful economic boost war is supposed to bring (eh...) are fringe benefits. Whether or not it was or it wasn't, oil, for example, shouldn't be an objective, but rather a beneficial afterthought.

[shoe1985]

It's simple, we have to commit more to Iraq because we're trying to stablize a nation while Afghanistan is pretty much one big terrorist hunt. I'm not surprised at all.

Why are we in Iraq again? Oh right, the thing that is supposed to keep are economy from crashing, oil, I think it is called?

You have to love how we went to Iraq for oil, and we are probably going to be paying for $7 a gallon by the end of the year.

Afghanistan may have been a big terrorist hunt, but who was it that attacked us? Saddam? Nope. Osama? Yes. Do you honestly believe we can't find him? We are the USA, we have some of the most advanced technology, and we can't find one man. Al-Qaeda has become an afterthought for oil, plain and simple. And it will bite us on our butts.

[Homyrrh]

Why are we in Iraq again? Oh right, the thing that is supposed to keep are economy from crashing, oil, I think it is called?

You have to love how we went to Iraq for oil, and we are probably going to be paying for $7 a gallon by the end of the year.

Afghanistan may have been a big terrorist hunt, but who was it that attacked us? Saddam? Nope. Osama? Yes. Do you honestly believe we can't find him? We are the USA, we have some of the most advanced technology, and we can't find one man. Al-Qaeda has become an afterthought for oil, plain and simple. And it will bite us on our butts.
That's dramatic. Still a couple cents under $4 by me. It'd have to be selling at like $260+/barrel.

Anyway, your last note has always perturbed me. Why hasn't Osama been caught? A fugitive figure to strike fear into citizens and justify the effort? But wouldn't it seem enitrely more sensible to showcase American technological superiority and catch the guy, revealign an ultimate legitimacy to the campaign?

[shoe1985]

That's dramatic. Still a couple cents under $4 by me. It'd have to be selling at like $260+/barrel.

Anyway, your last note has always perturbed me. Why hasn't Osama been caught? A fugitive figure to strike fear into citizens and justify the effort? But wouldn't it seem enitrely more sensible to showcase American technological superiority and catch the guy, revealign an ultimate legitimacy to the campaign?

It is being predicted it will hit $7 by the end of the year, I am not being dramatic. Prices are going up.

You answered your own questions though. Why should we catch him when we could continue to put fear into our citizens, and they will want to continue to fight. The problem is the citizens are sick of fighting.

[Homyrrh]

It is being predicted it will hit $7 by the end of the year, I am not being dramatic. Prices are going up.

You answered your own questions though. Why should we catch him when we could continue to put fear into our citizens, and they will want to continue to fight. The problem is the citizens are sick of fighting.
I've not read $7, maybe $5.50 tops. Like I said, saw $3.84 this weekend (to think I'm actually relieved my gas is "only $3.84...damn"). For it to nearly double (an increase of well over $3.00/gallon) in as much time it took to go from $3-$4+ is implausible.

It makes at least as much sense to capture the bastard, throw his dome on a post and parade him aorund for the world to se how efficient and justifiable the cause should be. While they're at it, make it look like they captured him in his war room cluttered with nukes and unauthorized intel, etc.

Sounds better than creating an image of, um, incompetence.

[SpoonMan999]

Why are we in Iraq again? Oh right, the thing that is supposed to keep are economy from crashing, oil, I think it is called?

You have to love how we went to Iraq for oil, and we are probably going to be paying for $7 a gallon by the end of the year.

Afghanistan may have been a big terrorist hunt, but who was it that attacked us? Saddam? Nope. Osama? Yes. Do you honestly believe we can't find him? We are the USA, we have some of the most advanced technology, and we can't find one man. Al-Qaeda has become an afterthought for oil, plain and simple. And it will bite us on our butts.

Was oil a factor in the war? I'm sure it was. But was it the deciding factor on whether or not to start a war? I think that's people reading too much into and looking for another thing to bitch about.

That's dramatic. Still a couple cents under $4 by me. It'd have to be selling at like $260+/barrel.

Almost to $5 here.

[MadsenOMC]

Almost to $5 here.

I see you're in California. I'm in Chicago. We've had the highest gas prices in the nation a few times this year. We're around $4.50 or more right now. I'm sure when we don't have the highest gas prices, you do.

[SpoonMan999]

We're averaging around $4.50-$4.70 where I live.

[Homyrrh]

Hot damn, gents. Could've filled at $3.84 last week. The glories of living down the way from the nation's refinery infrastructure:)

National average is $4.09 around now (maybe a couple higher, this was on CNN or FOX two days ago).

Still don't see it rising $3 in six months or less.