Yo what's with all the animal abuse in films' lately?!?!

[Dragula]

Why the hell do director's feel the need to put animal abuse in movies? And why has there been in so many movies lately?

HOLY SHIT!! THERE'S SPOILERS BELOW! RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!
Funny Games U.S. - The dog gets beaten to death
The Incredible Hulk - The dog gets shot
The Invasion - A dog gets its neck cracked and a little boy trys to kill a dog
OH THANK GOD THE SPOILERS END HERE


I don't have a problem with animal abuse unless I know for a fact its real. And why the hell do they always aim for dogs? Is anyone else sick of this shit?!

[X-Nightcrawler]

I don't think those animals got really killed.

And what's with the . . . BIG FUCKING FONT?

[Dragula]

And what's with the . . . BIG FUCKING FONT?

To warn people about the spoilers. If I said Spoilers below people would have no idea if there were spoilers below :D

[X-Nightcrawler]

I think you underestimate the power of regular size font.

*SPOILERS*

At the end of "The Mist", it was all a dream.

*END SPOILERS*

[starcat]

After watching Old Yeller, I was desensitized, so I usually dont pay much attention.

[thedudeman69]

I don't think they really kill the animals. I heard most of them are robots.

[Brendan M.]

I don't think a dog getting shot in the Incredible Hulk is such a big deal to put spoiler tags around it. I mean... C'mon. Maybe if Bruce Banner died at the very end of the movie and you said something, then yeah I would get pissed if you spoiled it.

[someguy]

I really want to know if someone would be angered by reading spoilers about a fucking animal dying. I would understand if it was a movie where animals were the main characters or something but those three movies are not the case. It ain't anything against you Dragula because you probably did the right thing (some crazy people here), but would someone honestly be infuriated if they found out the dog in Funny Games dies?

[MacReady]

The Incredible Hulk - The dog gets shot

Um, that was with a tranq.

[pablo_super1!]

I don't really care.

I mean it's not like they're actually killing an animal, and if the script calls for it then it has to be there.

[BanksIsDaFuture]

I don't have a problem with animal abuse unless I know for a fact its real.


If such is true, then what the fuck was the point of making this thread?

[The Postmaster General]

I think anytime there seems to be a trend in current films, it becomes rant-worthy. I'm just glad no one has made a point about no one cares about humans dying, but get upset about animals dying. This thread and everyone here totally rules because of that.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Everyone in favor of the next "Rant, Rant, Rant" thread being "What's with all the movies lately having characters??"?

*hammer slam*

See you all in the next meeting.

[Tweek]

Everyone in favor of the next "Rant, Rant, Rant" thread being "What's with all the movies lately having characters??"?

*hammer slam*

See you all in the next meeting.

NO! Damn it, I came in too late. :(

Fine.

Whatever.

[miguel_montes]

I'm pretty sure these animals didn't die. There are strict rules against animal violence in the US. I dare you to discover what was the last real animal to die on a Hollywood movie. :)

Have you ever noticed that in the credits? "No animals were hurt in the making of this film"

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruelty_to_animals#Film_making):
The Screen Actors Guild (SAG) has contracted with the American Humane Association (AHA) for monitoring of animal use during filming or while on the set. Compliance with this arrangement is voluntary and only applies to films made in the United States. Films monitored by the American Humane Association may bear one of their end-credit messages. Many productions, including those made in the US, do not advise AHA or SAG of animal use in films, so there is no oversight.

[LordSimen]

If the animal doesn't actually get hurt, who cares? It's just part of the movie.

[Moviefan1234]

They are fucking movies, it's not real. Who gives a shit if they show fictional animal abuse? It's part of the movie magic, meaning it's NOT REALLY HAPPENING.

[soulcollector64]

I always wondered what it was like for the AHA the day Kevin Smith shot the donkey scene in Clerks II.

:D:D:D:D:D:D:eek::cool:......:confused:

[Cronos]

As long as it isn't real it doesn't bother me (unless it's a cat :p), sometimes makes me sad depending on the role the animal played in the movie. As for the 3 examples, I don't really like dogs so meh.

[Brendan M.]

I have an awesome idea for a movie! It's a slasher film but instead of killing people, the killer goes house to house killing everyone's pets!

[crodger]

Back up a second...

So three cases of animal abuse in the abundance of films that have come out lately and it's a lot?

[echo_bravo]

Yeah and in Wanted the guy shoots the wings off of fruit flies. I am sending a letter to PETA about that.

And a lot of mice get blown up too.:mad:

[miguel_montes]

Yeah and in Wanted the guy shoots the wings off of fruit flies. I am sending a letter to PETA about that.

Not to mention the ants in Indy 4! :p

[jaw2929]

I'm not much of a dog fan.....

[Preston_79]

Animal abuse for me is hard to watch even if it's in a movie and fake. Yet I have no problem at all watching people get killed in movies, even the innocent ones.
Is that wrong? I don't think so.

[X-Nightcrawler]

What was that really cool scene in a soldier movie, not sure which, might have been "Dog Soldiers" in which an officer orders a soldier to shoot a dog in the head?

That scene was weirdly intense.

[Grn_Str_Movies]

I love how Dragula makes a rant, then when everyone begins correcting him and saying hes wrong he never posts in the thread again.

now thats what our next rant should be about

[starcat]

I have an awesome idea for a movie! It's a slasher film but instead of killing people, the killer goes house to house killing everyone's pets!

Dude, I think you could be on to something. It seems todays society get more upset over animal abuse than they do people abuse... so I think it would shock the shit out of people.

[Rapture27]

I'm a dog lover no doubt, but I do know for a fact that white people love dogs more than anyone. No offense to white peeps, just an observation I've made.... but like where I live, its majority white, and I see them walking their ugly dogs (white people have very bad taste in dogs for some reason) and treating them like kings/queens....so attached to a dog that when they see a dog snuffed on film, its heart wrenching...fuck all the kids and women being blown away, seeing a dog get it is so much worse. Cuz he's so cute (except for the dogs I see being walked in my area).

Oh and the whole spoiler thing, I read in this thread title one time Mike Vick chokes a dog to death and its wrong, but Will Smith chokes his dog to death its ok Lol....should've seen the responses.

" Thanks a lot man, I was gonna take my girl to see that tonite and u ruined it!!!" Lol

[BanksIsDaFuture]

Fuck animals, if people can't take pretend violence, then they should go ahead and kill themselves.

Leave your dog alone though.

[NathanRomano]

It makes me mad when it's pointless to the movie. When it doesn't further the story along at all. *Spoiler*


I Am Legend, it's necessary


*End Spoiler*

[Dragula]

It makes me mad when it's pointless to the movie. When it doesn't further the story along at all. *Spoiler*


I Am Legend, it's necessary


*End Spoiler*

Good example

[starcat]

give a couple of examples where its not necessary

[BanksIsDaFuture]

give a couple of examples where its not necessary

The Incredible Hulk

[miguel_montes]

Good example

And another good example: the wolf in "Dances With Wolves".

I remember another movie in which the main character had a horse as his best friend, and then at a certain time, the horse dies. That made me so sad... the thing is, I don't remember which movie is that. Does anyone have any idea in which movie that happens?

[God of War]

And another good example: the wolf in "Dances With Wolves".

I remember another movie in which the main character had a horse as his best friend, and then at a certain time, the horse dies. That made me so sad... the thing is, I don't remember which movie is that. Does anyone have any idea in which movie that happens?


The Never-ending Story?

[X-Nightcrawler]

The Never-ending Story?

Aww, poor Atreyu.

That damn wolf!

[bigred760]

What about the dogs in Ang Lee's Hulk? They get mutated, are sent to attack Jennifer Connelly, and then are crushed into green gas by a big green guy that looks like Eric Bana.

Oh the humanity!!!

But one dog gets shot in the new one and PETA goes into Def Con 4. :rolleyes:

[Brendan M.]

I'm a dog lover no doubt, but I do know for a fact that white people love dogs more than anyone. No offense to white peeps, just an observation I've made.... but like where I live, its majority white, and I see them walking their ugly dogs (white people have very bad taste in dogs for some reason) and treating them like kings/queens....so attached to a dog that when they see a dog snuffed on film, its heart wrenching...fuck all the kids and women being blown away, seeing a dog get it is so much worse. Cuz he's so cute (except for the dogs I see being walked in my area).

Oh and the whole spoiler thing, I read in this thread title one time Mike Vick chokes a dog to death and its wrong, but Will Smith chokes his dog to death its ok Lol....should've seen the responses.

" Thanks a lot man, I was gonna take my girl to see that tonite and u ruined it!!!" Lol

I'm a dog fan myself, but the dogs I hate are these ones the size of rodents that women and old ladies love so much. You know, any kind of dog that's small enough to fit inside your purse?

[Rapture27]

I'm a dog fan myself, but the dogs I hate are these ones the size of rodents that women and old ladies love so much. You know, any kind of dog that's small enough to fit inside your purse?
For realz.....I have a friend who I swear, thinks she's Paris Hilton and shit...her and her prissy friends, I met them at a baseball game one time and after the game there was these people selling those rodent dogs right outside the stadium and she buys one, stuffs the poor thing in her purse then goes to the club with the damn dog in the purse the whole freaking time. I wanted 2 slap the dyed blond hair out her head lol


Worse dead dog scene ever to me was in the Fly 2, when dudes dog is sent thru the teleporter and comes out all deformed and is put in that pit to eat that slop and eventually is put down by the son of the fly .....I was just a small kid in the theatre watching wanting to cry my ass off, but I held it in hard. Smh.

[X-Nightcrawler]

I'm a dog fan myself, but the dogs I hate are these ones the size of rodents that women and old ladies love so much. You know, any kind of dog that's small enough to fit inside your purse?

You rule. I fucking hate those little yippy dogs. They're not dogs if you can't play with them or can't protect your house.

http://www.thriftyfun.com/images/petguides/Siberian-Husky300x450.jpg
This is a dog.

http://www.grizzlyrun.com/Files/Images/Image_Gallery/Pomeranian_picture.jpg
This is a rat.

[Brendan M.]

You rule. I fucking hate those little yippy dogs. They're not dogs if you can't play with them or can't protect your house.

http://www.thriftyfun.com/images/petguides/Siberian-Husky300x450.jpg
This is a dog.

http://www.grizzlyrun.com/Files/Images/Image_Gallery/Pomeranian_picture.jpg
This is a rat.

You've read my mind. Most people challenge my opinion when I out spokenly refer to those kind of miniature dogs as rats or rodents. If there were more people like you, the world would be a better place.

Well.... It would also be a much better place with less of these running around:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3666/roxieloganminiaturepekiej6.jpg

[X-Nightcrawler]

What sucks is that my sister has a fucking pomeranian running around the house. And I hate it.

And the other day, my cousin (a girl, doy) came by the house with "her new doggie". Her new dog which she adored. Her new dog which is the ugliest fucking thing I have ever seen. I had never ever seen something like that. It's like the one you just posted a pic of, only with short hair (or hairless, I didn't touch the fucking thing) and huge bat-like ears.

Literally the ugliest thing I had seen. I wanted it away, felt like it was going to steal my soul.

And I sez to my aunt, I sez. "I don't get why these girls love such ugly fucking dogs."

And she just goes: "That's the point, they're adorable because they're so ugly."

I'm sorry, but I'm not with women on that logic. Ugly animals are ugly animals. Might as well have a tarantula crawing about. I'll stick to my imaginary husky, thank you very much.

[Brendan M.]

What sucks is that my sister has a fucking pomeranian running around the house. And I hate it.

And the other day, my cousin (a girl, doy) came by the house with "her new doggie". Her new dog which she adored. Her new dog which is the ugliest fucking thing I have ever seen. I had never ever seen something like that. It's like the one you just posted a pic of, only with short hair (or hairless, I didn't touch the fucking thing) and huge bat-like ears.

Literally the ugliest thing I had seen. I wanted it away, felt like it was going to steal my soul.

And I sez to my aunt, I sez. "I don't get why these girls love such ugly fucking dogs."

And she just goes: "That's the point, they're adorable because they're so ugly."

I'm sorry, but I'm not with women on that logic. Ugly animals are ugly animals. Might as well have a tarantula crawing about. I'll stick to my imaginary husky, thank you very much.

You should totally save up some money and bring a rottweiler into the house! Problem solved.

[NathanRomano]

What sucks is that my sister has a fucking pomeranian running around the house. And I hate it.

And the other day, my cousin (a girl, doy) came by the house with "her new doggie". Her new dog which she adored. Her new dog which is the ugliest fucking thing I have ever seen. I had never ever seen something like that. It's like the one you just posted a pic of, only with short hair (or hairless, I didn't touch the fucking thing) and huge bat-like ears.

Literally the ugliest thing I had seen. I wanted it away, felt like it was going to steal my soul.

And I sez to my aunt, I sez. "I don't get why these girls love such ugly fucking dogs."

And she just goes: "That's the point, they're adorable because they're so ugly."

I'm sorry, but I'm not with women on that logic. Ugly animals are ugly animals. Might as well have a tarantula crawing about. I'll stick to my imaginary husky, thank you very much.

Funniest post I've read in weeks

[X-Nightcrawler]

Funniest post I've read in weeksYou wouldn't find it so funny if you had seen what I saw.

So here.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_iRWN267DToM/Rtx08h6ruTI/AAAAAAAAAhw/kql1oT6SBlg/IMG_2601.JPG

That's the goddamn thing that woman brought into my home. Only it was completely black. Black like the void where its soul should be.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I think you underestimate the power of regular size font.

*SPOILERS*

At the end of "The Mist", it was all a dream.

*END SPOILERS*

But...I thought...

NOOOO!!!!!The Spoiler warned reviews on IMDB have lied to me againNOOO!!!!!!And even my own copy of the film has replaced the ending just to throw me off!!!NOOO!!!!!


its ironic that as I'm posting in this thread I just happen to be watching The Cat segment in Tales From The Darkside The Movie.NNOOOOOO!!!!!

Oh my god!I'm a senior shmoe now,NOOOO!!!!!!!

[X-Nightcrawler]

Oh my god!I'm a senior shmoe now,NOOOO!!!!!!!
You will notice some changes.

As the King, I'm morally obligated to give you an e-condom and tell you about the e-birds and e-bees.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Thank you for taking the responsibility of my e-maturity upon yourself...

...and for good measure...

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fixedMind]

I don't get too bothered by it, as I know its not real. Sometimes I get disturbed, but not often.

[Brendan M.]

The scene in Toxic Avenger when the blind girl's dog gets blasted with a shotgun. Pretty funny.

Or how bout in Resident Evil when Milla karate kicked those dogs!

[NathanRomano]

I was playing Call Of Duty 4: Arcade Mode. And dogs were coming and I shot it, and got 100 points. I found it weird I was rewarded for shooting a dog in the face.

[someguy]

So getting points for shooting people who try to kill you is understandable but when you get 100 points for killing a dog that tries to murder you its weird? I'm not saying it should be the other way around, but I wouldn't say it's weird.

[muttly69]

My daughter loved to watch Secret Window when she was 4 and though (*****SPOILER ALERT****) the only was to kill a dog was to put a screw driver in there head. I love her.

[The Postmaster General]

Could the dogs have been worth more because they were harder to hit? I just remember in Res. Evil trying to hit the dogs was pretty hard compared to a lot of other stuff. I once had to shoot a dog to get into a gang, but I just gave it a bowl of turkey gravy and waited for it to fall asleep. It didn't get me into the gang though, because they had some weird bylaw drafted in the early 80s after someone tried to pull the same shit. So that's why I ask about how hard it is to kill the dog because most rpgs don't have turkey gravy enabled.

OT, but has anyone ever seen Flash Gordon. Haha. Whoa! The Dark Knight is going to have to be pretty awesome to be better than this comic flick. They have fucking lasers guns and this one guy has two beards.

I do agree it can sometimes be a bummer to see animals killed in films, but like seeing a monkey like in Project X, or that gorilla movie, that can be sad, but like a movie with a chimp smoking cigars and wearing a hat, waving a pistol, that's not as bad.

[X-Nightcrawler]

"Fernando! Your mother ate my dog!"

[NathanRomano]

So getting points for shooting people who try to kill you is understandable but when you get 100 points for killing a dog that tries to murder you its weird? I'm not saying it should be the other way around, but I wouldn't say it's weird.

Yeah, I had to kill the dog, but one +100 flashed on the screen and heavy metal music played, I felt a little guilty. I didn't like to kill the dogs either way, but they would have killed my men

[redfiretruck]

I totally agree with you. Animal abuse needs to stop- I believe a movie can still have a deep, meaningful impact without a dog being killed.

[bigred760]

I totally agree with you. Animal abuse needs to stop- I believe a movie can still have a deep, meaningful impact without a dog being killed.

Unless it's Cujo.

[NuclearMisfit]

Ill usually have someone tell me if there is any animal violence in a movie. I just dont like seeing someones animal get killed, its not like the dog or cat was messing with said monster/gunman/evil creature/killer.

I dont get my rocks off on people dying in movies either but trust me, its alot easier to take than seeing a pet die unless of course its Cujo.

[BanksIsDaFuture]

Just wait until you guys watch The Dark Knight....

[Brendan M.]

Just wait until you guys watch The Dark Knight....

Ha ha!

But forget the Dark Knight, just wait until WATCHMEN comes out! If they follow the graphic novel as closely as they say they will there will be one hell of a German Sheppard massacre in this movie!

[Lost in Space]

I was playing Call Of Duty 4: Arcade Mode. And dogs were coming and I shot it, and got 100 points. I found it weird I was rewarded for shooting a dog in the face.

the dogs are harder to kill in that game than the people

[mutesaint]

And I sez to my aunt, I sez. "I don't get why these girls love such ugly fucking dogs."

And she just goes: "That's the point, they're adorable because they're so ugly."



Thats how I got play in highschool.

[AshleysDad]

Sorry I had posted this under current movies. I could not find this.


"In what should come as a shock to absolutely no one, PETA announced that it is upset with The Dark Knight because of a short scene in which Batman beats a few dogs in self-defense. PETA obviously has nothing better to complain about.

But to really show Batman the error of his ways, the animal rights organization removed him from its list of Top 10 Animal-Friendly Superheroes. Ouch. There’s also some great lines in the rant: “They didn’t need to make Batman into a dogphobic man!” True poetry. Then PETA asks, “Doesn’t the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?” Um, PETA? Did you even see the movie or are you simply unaware of how dumb you sound?



Like the rest of the entire world, I went and saw The Dark Knight this weekend, and also like the rest of the entire world, I was impressed with this darker take on the Batman mythos. I’m all for having Heath Ledger win the Oscar, and my superhero-comic-loving-nerd-patrol side could gush for hours about the intensity of this movie. But my animal-protector soul had a serious problem with a few scenes. Batman beats dogs—who knew?? P’shaw! And to think we gave him a spot on our coveted Top 10 Animal-Friendly Superhero list!

While I love that The Dark Knight lived up to its name by exploring the noiresque Frank Miller-inspired themes of Gotham’s protector, they didn’t need to make Batman into a dogphobic man! Batman is an icon, a superhero genius that beats up gun-toting thugs using only his iron fist of justice—KA-POW! He looks damn good in pleather while owning the streets, yet in The Dark Knight, he was punching out dogs left and right. Sure, it was self-defense, but doesn’t the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?

Because of this serious misstep for what’s otherwise a masterpiece, we’ve decided to take all the write-in votes for Hellboy seriously, knock our batvocate pal off the list, and replace him with the kitten-cuddling man in red."

[Dragula]

I think alot of you are thinking that I don't think there should be animal abuse period. No, if you have to defend yourself against an animal then you should. Like for example in The Dark Knight, and I Am Legend. I'm mainly saying when its unnessecery (fuck did I spell that right?) then whats the point. If its in a video game go right ahead.