Digital Copies with DVDs

[Donnie_Darko]

Does anyone actually "use" these? I'm getting sick and tired of seeing "Special 2 Disk edition", only to find out the extra disk is just some fucking digital copy.

Anyone?

-this was going to be a poll but... no poll option in here?-

[The Postmaster General]

It's kind of like bitching because you never use the Mp3 inputs in your car, or even the CD player. Maybe it irks you when you find a toy in your box of cracker jacks, or getting a mint with your dinner.

I have no reason to believe you had no way of knowing what was on the second disc.

Don't worry though, you'll find plenty of support here.

[Monzter]

Does anyone actually "use" these? I'm getting sick and tired of seeing "Special 2 Disk edition", only to find out the extra disk is just some fucking digital copy.

Anyone?

-this was going to be a poll but... no poll option in here?-


same here i hate it, btu the thing that sucks is these 2 disc sets with digital copys they put the extras on disc one with the movie and digital on disc two.. so you still need to buy in order to get extras.

the rambo disc single no extras two disc more extras all on disc one....

waste of money......

[Dragula]

Yeah I use them. Mainly to put on my iPod. Its a hell of a lot quicker than ripping the disc.

[Grn_Str_Movies]

I Use Them, Dont Know Whats The Big Deal.
I Have The Money To Spend Some Extra Bucks.

[MisterChristian]

<insert sarcasm> yay, I love paying for something I'll never use <end sarcam>

[The Postmaster General]

<insert sarcasm> yay, I love paying for something I'll never use <end sarcam>


I love watching people complaining about not using things they bought, then trying to act like it's someone else's fault.

[MisterChristian]

I didn't buy it for the digital copy. I bought the Rambo "2-Disc Special Edition" DVD for the special features as the single disc is special feature "free". But alas, you get and pay for a "digital copy".

If the single disc DVD had some special features, then I'd just buy that.

Here's the irony: the DVD *IS* a digital copy...

[JohnIan]

I love watching people complaining about not using things they bought, then trying to act like it's someone else's fault.

Here's the thing... if they offered the digitial copy for those who wanted it - separately I would be cool with it. To each their own.

But they don't. If you want the extras, you MUST buy the release with the digital copy. There is no choice. And for folks like myself and MisterChristian, Monzter and others this is a waste. I've never used it. And if I did, I would want uncontrolled usage, not limited to certain machines. I don't play that.

I see it this way. I'm being charged a larger amount for something I don't want. It's like buying a car and having the lot manager say, 'Sign right here and here. That? Oh that's for the boat and its taxes and for your boating license. What? What do you mean you just want A car? It comes with a boat! What? You don't want to pay extra for something you don't want? Why? It's a boat! No, you don't get just the car alone...' Get what I mean, BubbaStrangelove? You may want that boat and fully enjoy it, power to you. But I don't. What should I pay for it?

And yeah, MisterChristian is right. It's already a digital copy.

[Pirate Mike]

Yeah I'll throw a big fat fucking boo to these digital copies. it kinda bugs me they cant fill 2 disks up with special features anymore

[Monzter]

Here's the thing... if they offered the digitial copy for those who wanted it - separately I would be cool with it. To each their own.

But they don't. If you want the extras, you MUST buy the release with the digital copy. There is no choice. And for folks like myself and MisterChristian, Monzter and others this is a waste. I've never used it. And if I did, I would want uncontrolled usage, not limited to certain machines. I don't play that.

I see it this way. I'm being charged a larger amount for something I don't want. It's like buying a car and having the lot manager say, 'Sign right here and here. That? Oh that's for the boat and its taxes and for your boating license. What? What do you mean you just want A car? It comes with a boat! What? You don't want to pay extra for something you don't want? Why? It's a boat! No, you don't get just the car alone...' Get what I mean, BubbaStrangelove? You may want that boat and fully enjoy it, power to you. But I don't. What should I pay for it?

And yeah, MisterChristian is right. It's already a digital copy.

very well said..... that sums it up .....

[The Postmaster General]

The digital copy is part of the special features. What part of that are you guys not understanding?

Personally, I'm not big into audio commentaries, with the exception of some directors. It'd be a bit ridiculous if I came on here bitching because I bought a special addition disc because I wanted extra scenes, but also got audio commentary.

I didn't buy it for the digital copy. I bought the Rambo "2-Disc Special Edition" DVD for the special features as the single disc is special feature "free". But alas, you get and pay for a "digital copy".

If the single disc DVD had some special features, then I'd just buy that.

Here's the irony: the DVD *IS* a digital copy...


What's am I not getting here?

I go to Amazon and type in "John Rambo", and the first thing I get is this ---

"Rambo (Special Edition + Digital Copy) (2008)"

What exactly makes you think you are paying extra for the digital copy, and not for all the other features you get? This disc is $21.99 --- The last time I checked, that's been the average price for new SE DVDs with extras for a long time. A REALLY long time. A lot of times, $21.99 is the price of a single disc DVD.

Look, here's the 2-disc addition of There Will Be Blood, that's completely free of digital copies:

http://www.amazon.com/There-Blood-Two-Disc-Special-Collectors/dp/B00104QSOM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1215094528&sr=1-3


What's the price of a disc with no digital copy? The same as the John Rambo one with a digital copy - $21.99

Let's look at more!


Vantage Point, no digital copy, $22.99 - http://www.amazon.com/Vantage-Point-Two-Disc-Special-Dennis/dp/B0018CWW32/ref=sr_1_95?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1215094836&sr=1-95

Harold and Kumar, $22.99 - http://www.amazon.com/Harold-Guantanamo-Unrated-Two-Disc-Special/dp/B0017ANAX6/ref=sr_1_96?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1215094836&sr=1-96

21, $22.99 - http://www.amazon.com/21-Two-Disc-Special-Kate-Bosworth/dp/B0014E29TQ/ref=sr_1_99?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1215095025&sr=1-99

Zodiac, $24.99 - http://www.amazon.com/Zodiac-Directors-Two-Disc-Special-Collectors/dp/B000XCZGV8/ref=sr_1_103?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1215095025&sr=1-103

You want to see what really gets me?

How much was the 2-disc on Amazon? $21.99... Well, how much is the single disc?

$17.99! --- FOUR DOLLARS MORE!!! Oh no, they are ripping everyone off by giving them some features they want and others they don't for an extra four dollars.


Here's the thing... if they offered the digitial copy for those who wanted it - separately I would be cool with it. To each their own.

But they don't. If you want the extras, you MUST buy the release with the digital copy. There is no choice. And for folks like myself and MisterChristian, Monzter and others this is a waste. I've never used it. And if I did, I would want uncontrolled usage, not limited to certain machines. I don't play that.

So your complaint is that you would rather illegally workaround region coding and compression in lieu of having the studio provide you a legitimate copy for (as I've shown above) the exact same price you'd spend on an SE disc anyway?



I see it this way. I'm being charged a larger amount for something I don't want. It's like buying a car and having the lot manager say, 'Sign right here and here. That? Oh that's for the boat and its taxes and for your boating license. What? What do you mean you just want A car? It comes with a boat! What? You don't want to pay extra for something you don't want? Why? It's a boat! No, you don't get just the car alone...' Get what I mean, BubbaStrangelove? You may want that boat and fully enjoy it, power to you. But I don't. What should I pay for it?



No, it would be like you buying a DVD because you want extras and you don't like all the extras. It isn't like you are getting a separate title, or another product all together. These are the extras on the disc. It's advertised on the disc. If you are really peeved paying $4 - $6 more to get features, but some features you don't like, then I don't know what to say.

Back to the car analogy it follows if you want satellite radio in your car, and the stereo also comes with an MP3 player, but you don't want an MP3 player, you aren't getting "ripped off" by getting a stereo with a feature you don't want.

You are not paying more for digital copies. I don't know how long you guys have been buying DVDs, but the inclusion of digital copies hasn't created the some kind of price hike you guys keep complaining about. You can go to Best Buy and find special edition discs the same price with or without digital copies.







For me, the issue is that they charge more for extras and release seperate discs. When DVDs first came out, while everyone enjoyed the picture quality, this was before these super sharp TVs we have now --- While the picture was cool, it was the features that made them most exciting for most people. Granted, some of these features were inherent with the technology (scene skipping, no rewind) but it didn't take long for the distributors to realize that people were digging the audio commentaries, deleted scenes and other common features. Their response was not putting out more disc with more features, but was instead to divvy it up and charge more for the features.

You aren't paying more for your extras because you are stuck with digital copies, you are stuck with digital copies because you paid more for extras.




And yeah, MisterChristian is right. It's already a digital copy.

Would you rather they called them "digital copies at various compression rates designed for use on portable players and computers"? Yeah, that would be more explanatory, but wouldn't fit well on a DVD sleeve. :D

[NathanRomano]

If you don't want your Digital Copies, send them my way.

[john_rambo]

I used and watched Rambos digital copy it was good for my long car trip to watch on my laptop.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I just want more films with 2-discs of special features,and I mean FULL of special features-like Freddy VS Jason,the best 2-discer ever imo and don't even get me started on the commentary.

[JohnIan]

*sigh*

I'm gonna take a step back. And address something at the studio level. Special edition prices averages between $24.95 to $ 28.98 each. I am speaking on the prices the studios ask retailers to sell their products (not discount sale prices). Those titles with digital copies have a retail price of $34.99.

While those DVDs on various sales come down to $22.99 (I have yet to see them lower). I do a lot of my disc shopping at Wal-Mart. I could find those $28.98 titles for sixteen bucks. While it is true that on a good sale or if your store buys in serious bulk, that difference can be, as you wrote four dollars. That's four dollars more than it should be. That's four dollars that could be used for something else. And with additional purchases (cursed with digital copies) that number adds up.

Lets make this clear, digital copies are an extra, NOT a special feature. It should be another seperate edition for those who desire it. Here's reality, I don't have the money to spend on titles which are over priced for something that isn't a real special feature. It's a waste. Here's a couple other facts, where I live a quart of milk cost nearly three bucks. And gas is $4.69 a gallon. Four bucks buys milk. Four bucks buys gas. It matters.

FOUR DOLLARS MORE!!! Oh no, they are ripping everyone off by giving them some features they want and others they don't for an extra four dollars.
Yes, they are.

All right, if not seperate edition, how about this. When "300" was first released Target was offering an exclusive a free copy of the film to play on portable media. It wasn't in the package, it was in fact a web address. You had to download it. That's cool. Should you want a digital copy, here it is. Leave the discs as G1ng3rsnap9ed wrote - for genuine special features. Price down, problem solved!

No, it would be like you buying a DVD because you want extras and you don't like all the extras. It isn't like you are getting a separate title, or another product all together. These are the extras on the disc. It's advertised on the disc. If you are really peeved paying $4 - $6 more to get features, but some features you don't like, then I don't know what to say.
I buy DVDs for the films and special features, not really for extras like digital copies, CD samplers and packaged tee-shirts. I am peeved. Looking at the studio prices, those DVDs are six to ten dollars more. You are playing extra for the privilege to view them on portable media machines. I don't use them. And why would I want to play it at a reduced resolution?

Back to the car analogy it follows if you want satellite radio in your car, and the stereo also comes with an MP3 player, but you don't want an MP3 player, you aren't getting "ripped off" by getting a stereo with a feature you don't want.
Hell yes, I would be! Lets say I buy a car for twenty grand and they say the MP3 player (super sexy deluxe - a number one) is an extra, but then say that it adds seven hundred more to the final price, then yeah. I would be pissed, it becomes an expensive extra. Could you sell me one without the player?

You aren't paying more for your extras because you are stuck with digital copies, you are stuck with digital copies because you paid more for extras.
No. You are paying more for the privilege of having a digial copy. That why when you buy one, it comes with a printed code/numbers to access the copy. A price that would be lower if it didn't include it.

you would rather illegally workaround region coding and compression in lieu of having the studio provide you a legitimate copy
First off, region free player. The next issue is something that is a far longer rant (I'll make it brief though). If I buy something, it's mine. End of story. As long as I'm not repeatedly making profit off it, it's fine. I wish I had the money to buy the hardware and software to make copies of all my discs. Have the originals put away and all these DVD-Rs in a large binder. But then again I would be breaking the law. If they're gonna charge me more for something I don't want, at least make it unrestricted. The image quality is lower than the DVD, why should it matter? Oh yeah, I forgot; greed.

What I would like to see is a 100 percent honesty. You buy a DVD or CD and before you can take it, you must sign a document saying you do not own it, you will never own it. You are purchasing just a lease to view and hold on at your property, but only under certain conditions. And this lease can be made void at anytime if it is advantageous to us. This release is under perpetual copyright and illegal to sell to another without the expressed permisison of the copyright holder(s) and a percentage of said sale. I wonder how many people would buy media if that was done.

This is what the studios' wet dream about. Remember when the music industry was going after used CD stores? I'll let you in on a non-secret. I'm going to break the law this weekend. In fact I do every weekend. I bring movies to watch with my friends. Folks who never paid for the DVD. And sometimes they bring other friends over to watch too, an audience if you will. A somewhat public performance since these are people I don't know - all watching in the living room. But then again, I'm as guilty as millions across America; especially those with home theaters.

I like this quote from Sam Sugar: "People who steal content are those who don't have any money (like kids) and those who don't think a product's worth paying for. In both cases, stopping piracy, even if possible, wouldn't result in any sales gain. The poor can't buy, the indifferent refuse to." The real number, money the studios truely have lost will be known, but only if they don't count these groups. And I'm most sure that the digits won't even come close to what they claim.

Going back to the topic, it all comes down to disposable income. My free money this year has taken a dive and has hurt my DVD purchasing. While you may be in a situation where you can enter a store and buy without a second thought, I have to do the math. And that four dollars is something that shouldn't be. I can see a trend where all major releases come with digital copies, that sir would be a sad day.

[BanksIsDaFuture]

I don't use them, but I'm not mad that I got them. Totally agree with Bubba on this one.

[Derek237]

I love the digital copies DVDs! It's almost as great as those SUPERBIT DVDs! woo!

[The Postmaster General]

You're right that a digital copy isn't a special feature. I think that's was a mistype on my end, and I think you can see that for the rest of my post, I did refer to them as an extra.

My point is the same, regardless of word usage --- You are paying to get extra shit with the disc. It says on the cover of the disc what you are getting. You are paying for what you get, and what you get is what you paid for. There's no mystery. There's no rip off. Everything is right in front of you. If you are paying money to buy a digital copy, that's what you are doing. Not the studio, and sure as hell not me.


I'm gonna take a step back. And address something at the studio level. Special edition prices averages between $24.95 to $ 28.98 each. I am speaking on the prices the studios ask retailers to sell their products (not discount sale prices). Those titles with digital copies have a retail price of $34.99.

While those DVDs on various sales come down to $22.99 (I have yet to see them lower). I do a lot of my disc shopping at Wal-Mart. I could find those $28.98 titles for sixteen bucks. While it is true that on a good sale or if your store buys in serious bulk, that difference can be, as you wrote four dollars. That's four dollars more than it should be. That's four dollars that could be used for something else. And with additional purchases (cursed with digital copies) that number adds up.

Lets make this clear, digital copies are an extra, NOT a special feature. It should be another seperate edition for those who desire it. Here's reality, I don't have the money to spend on titles which are over priced for something that isn't a real special feature. It's a waste. Here's a couple other facts, where I live a quart of milk cost nearly three bucks. And gas is $4.69 a gallon. Four bucks buys milk. Four bucks buys gas. It matters.


Back to the car analogy, you can either buy a car for sticker price, or you can shop around. No one buys a car for sticker price, except, well... There was an even a whole episode of King of the Hill making a joke around Hank only buying sticker price and thinking he was getting a good deal.

If you buy something at the retail suggested price, you are getting ripped off. Period. No matter if you are getting a digital copy or not. So, let's not throw that out there. I am aware of suggested retail price; I watch a lot of Price is Right, and know I get my paper towels cheaper than the prices they show there. You know this, which is why you buy your DVDs at discount stores. I have no idea why you would bring up suggested retail price, especially considering that you don't pay this price for your discs. It's like me complaining about the price of tea in China.

To even further make your point, you paint an even stranger picture. You bring up gas prices in offense toward digital copies. So, what I'm getting is that you are at the store, and not just buying the DVDs, but are making the decision to buy a more expensive DVD, a Special Edition that runs for 4 - 6 dollars more (6 - 10 at your strongest estimates...) The problem you have, though, is when you get home, you somehow only then realize you have a digital copy, and only then are you suddenly concerned about spending money on DVDs instead of gas.

Huh?

I really don't get how you managed to tie in the cost of buying deleted scenes in a Rambo movie (or any movie) to having a lessor ability to afford gas and milk. That's really stretching things to make your point. People who are struggling to afford gas and milk probably shouldn't be buying DVDs, but at the least shouldn't be shelling out the price of milk for an SE disc.


Yes, they are.

No, they aren't, except if you're paying the suggested retail price, but in that case, you are getting ripped off anyway.

All right, if not seperate edition, how about this. When "300" was first released Target was offering an exclusive a free copy of the film to play on portable media. It wasn't in the package, it was in fact a web address. You had to download it. That's cool. Should you want a digital copy, here it is. Leave the discs as G1ng3rsnap9ed wrote - for genuine special features. Price down, problem solved!

If they want to put them for download, I don't care. If they want to put them with the disc, I don't care.

The thing is, whereas I've shown with links and researching that digital copy SE discs, and non-DC SE discs are the same price, you are just saying they aren't because you say so without providing any proof.

All of those titles I listed above, while having a price lower than the suggested retail price, they all had the same suggested retail price --- both the digital copies and non-digital copies.

They don't charge more for digital copies, they charge more for SE discs. Some SE discs are starting to come with digital copies.

Show me where they charge more solely for digital copies. Show me! Show me the money! You keep bringing the peeve back to the fact that you are paying extra for digital copies, but I've pretty well substantiated that you are only paying more for buying an SE disc. I don't see, and you haven't shown me, where you are paying more for the "+ digital copy".

I buy DVDs for the films and special features, not really for extras like digital copies, CD samplers and packaged tee-shirts. I am peeved. Looking at the studio prices, those DVDs are six to ten dollars more. You are playing extra for the privilege to view them on portable media machines. I don't use them. And why would I want to play it at a reduced resolution?

Like I said a few posts back, I don't always use audio commentaries on my discs, but consistently use the deleted scenes. What's the difference between you complaining about not using digital copies, and me if I complained and said I was getting ripped off because I don't use the audio commentaries?

Hell yes, I would be! Lets say I buy a car for twenty grand and they say the MP3 player (super sexy deluxe - a number one) is an extra, but then say that it adds seven hundred more to the final price, then yeah. I would be pissed, it becomes an expensive extra. Could you sell me one without the player?

Well, uh, actually yeah, they can sell you one without the player, just like you can buy an edition of the DVD without the extras. If you want to buy the extra, you are going to pay for it. Are they supposed to just give it to your for free or something? If you want to shop around for something that meets your price vs. what you get, you need to do that, not the salesman and not the studios. You know what you are paying for up front, and anything else is poor foresight on your part. Most of your reasoning is comparable to saying that the studios are holding a gun to your head making you buy something.

It's here where I'm reminded of your "sigh".

No. You are paying more for the privilege of having a digial copy. That why when you buy one, it comes with a printed code/numbers to access the copy. A price that would be lower if it didn't include it.

Yeah, you keep saying that, but I've actually proved that's not the case.

First off, region free player.

Hey, we agreed to leave the pet names we have for each other in PM, my sweet dual-disc. ;)

The next issue is something that is a far longer rant (I'll make it brief though). If I buy something, it's mine. End of story. As long as I'm not repeatedly making profit off it, it's fine. I wish I had the money to buy the hardware and software to make copies of all my discs. Have the originals put away and all these DVD-Rs in a large binder. But then again I would be breaking the law. If they're gonna charge me more for something I don't want, at least make it unrestricted. The image quality is lower than the DVD, why should it matter? Oh yeah, I forgot; greed.

Why do you keep bringing up the lower image quality? Of course it's lower image quality. It's not meant to be played on your HDTV, but on a portable player. If you ripped it yourself, it would also be lower image quality, unless you have some sort of insane iPod with 720x480 resolution and 100s of gigs of space.

Plus, as I've provided research on, you aren't paying extra. Nope, you aren't.

What I would like to see is a 100 percent honesty. You buy a DVD or CD and before you can take it, you must sign a document saying you do not own it, you will never own it. You are purchasing just a lease to view and hold on at your property, but only under certain conditions. And this lease can be made void at anytime if it is advantageous to us. This release is under perpetual copyright and illegal to sell to another without the expressed permisison of the copyright holder(s) and a percentage of said sale. I wonder how many people would buy media if that was done.

This is what the studios' wet dream about. Remember when the music industry was going after used CD stores? I'll let you in on a non-secret. I'm going to break the law this weekend. In fact I do every weekend. I bring movies to watch with my friends. Folks who never paid for the DVD. And sometimes they bring other friends over to watch too, an audience if you will. A somewhat public performance since these are people I don't know - all watching in the living room. But then again, I'm as guilty as millions across America; especially those with home theaters.

I like this quote from Sam Sugar: "People who steal content are those who don't have any money (like kids) and those who don't think a product's worth paying for. In both cases, stopping piracy, even if possible, wouldn't result in any sales gain. The poor can't buy, the indifferent refuse to." The real number, money the studios truely have lost will be known, but only if they don't count these groups. And I'm most sure that the digits won't even come close to what they claim.

I can tell you are enthusiastic about piracy, and your digital rights, but I wasn't making a point or taking a stance on that topic. Personally, I don't care what you rip and don't rip. My point was that saying that you could just pirate the stuff anyway is a pretty lame claim against the studios. You might as well say that you are getting ripped off paying to go to the movies, because you can sneak in anyway. Sure, movies may charge a bit for tickets, and we may be paying more than we have to, but not because we can break the rules to avoid paying -- It's two separate topics.

Going back to the topic, it all comes down to disposable income. My free money this year has taken a dive and has hurt my DVD purchasing. While you may be in a situation where you can enter a store and buy without a second thought, I have to do the math. And that four dollars is something that shouldn't be. I can see a trend where all major releases come with digital copies, that sir would be a sad day.

You should be thankful you have disposable income, and the only thing being hurt is your DVD purchasing. No, I can't just walk into a store and buy a DVD without thinking about it. The newest release I own is The Darjeeling Limited, which I got for a birthday gift. I can't afford DVDs that much because I'm spending money on shit like milk, gas, medical expenses, and a whole much of stuff that's much less fun than seeing some extra footage of Stallone blowing shit up.

That's my peeve. While I'm trying to tell you guys that maybe you should be a little more careful about what you spend your money on, if what you are spending your money on is not what you want... I am hearing you guys complaining that you got more than you wanted, at a price that was more than what you could have spent. Then you some how managed to turn that around and say I'm the one who is buying shit without thinking about it, and that you are actually the one who is so concerned about gas and milk that you are mad because the SE DVD you purchased had more stuff than what you wanted.

Heh. How did you word that earlier? "Sigh"?

[The Postmaster General]

I love the digital copies DVDs! It's almost as great as those SUPERBIT DVDs! woo!


You've actually bought Superbit DVDs?

LOL.

[Derek237]

Actually I think the only ones I have are Closer and Adaptation, but I think that's the only way you could get them.

[The Postmaster General]

I have a reg. copy of Adaptation. I'm pretty sure most superbit are re-releases.

Can you notice any picture quality improvement on HDTVs? I'm curious because I know bitrate makes a big difference. You can actually see JohnIan complaining about the lowered bitrate of digital copies. I've never sought to buy them because I'm not at HD yet with my TV.

[NathanRomano]

I hate Superbit!

[Grn_Str_Movies]

I Completely Agree With Bubba,
Youre Not Paying Extra For The Special Edition.

But The Point People Bitch Is Because The 1 Disc Has No Special Features.

How Was It Before The 2 Disc Was Packed With Special Features
And The 1 Disc Had A Commentary And Maybe Some Deleted Scenes.

People Were Still Going For The 2 Disc Paying 25 Bucks.

Why Is It So Different Now?

Its The Same Thing As It Was Before.

[The Postmaster General]

I get that feeling that it's just annoyance that there's a second disc, with nothing on it, but one other this is that Rambo is 90 minutes. (I keep using Rambo as an example because that's the only movie brought up so far.) 90 minutes is not going to take up much room on a disc, unless (god forbid) it's superbit (/lol), so I'd like to know if these extra features are really taking away from their ability to add features.

So I look at Quigles review here:
http://joblo.com/dvdclinic/dvd_review.php?id=2126

They say "This 2-Disc Special Edition of the movie comes loaded with extras." and also distinguish that the 2nd disc is a digital copy.

I'm just not seeing how the digital copy takes away anything. If anything it adds the ability to have a nice rip of the movie. Since, technically, ripping from a disc would be a rip of a rip, because as someone already touched on, a DVD is already technically a digital copy. They probably make the digital copies from the same source they make the DVDs, or at the least use higher grade software and codecs to do so.

Like I said earlier, my only beef is that they release so many multiple editions. Except in cases of really great documentary features, or new footage, I don't like them charging more for deleted scenes, because that's the shit they didn't like enough to put into the movie to begin with for the most part. It's like just throw us a bone and give us decent regular releases, and save the "special" tag for stuff that you really did shell out extra dough to bring to us. It's like they are trying to recoup their costs of realizing later that the scene of JJ shitting in the well didn't fit into the narrative. Fucking assholes.

[rilocay]

I'm just not seeing how the digital copy takes away anything. If anything it adds the ability to have a nice rip of the movie. Since, technically, ripping from a disc would be a rip of a rip, because as someone already touched on, a DVD is already technically a digital copy. They probably make the digital copies from the same source they make the DVDs, or at the least use higher grade software and codecs to do so.



Yeah, i thought the whole point of the digi release was so people wouldn't rip or download (illlegally) movies to watch on all this tech that is so easy to come by now as opposed to 5 years ago, where ipods and media players and phones whatever else were just beginning to advance to this stage. The digital copy is their for our convenience and theirs, we can do whatever with it, while the studio doesn't have to worry about us downloading it or promoting the rip, which usually leads to the burning of the film.


Also, i think the majoirty of mainstream dvd buyers wont be watching all the extras THAT often either.