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MadsenOMC
07-10-2008, 10:12 AM
Gramm calls slowdown 'mental'

By MIKE ALLEN | 7/10/08 11:02 AM EST Updated: 7/10/08 11:02 AM EST

Former Sen. Phil Gramm, a top economic adviser to presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, referred to the economic slowdown as "a mental recession" and called the United States “a nation of whiners.”

The comments, in an interview with The Washington Times, could hurt the campaign’s efforts to convince working-class Americans that McCain feels their pain.

Democrats immediately condemned the remarks as “callous” and quickly began working to gain widespread attention to them.

The Democratic National Committee issued a statement titled: “Out of Touch Much, Phil.”

A McCain official said: “Phil Gramm’s comments are not representative of John McCain’s views. John McCain travels the country every day talking to Americans who are hurting, feeling pain at the pump and worrying about how they’ll pay their mortgage. That’s why he has a realistic plan to deliver immediate relief at the gas pump, grow our economy and put Americans back to work.”

The Times said Gramm said he expects a McCain administration would inherit an economy “weighed down above all by the conviction of many Americans that economic conditions are the worst in two or three decades and that America is in decline.”

The Times quoted him as saying: “You've heard of mental depression; this is a mental recession. … We have sort of become a nation of whiners. …

“You just hear this constant whining, complaining about a loss of competitiveness, America in decline. … We've never been more dominant; we've never had more natural advantages than we have today.”

Karen Finney, the Democratic National Committee’s communications director, said: “What John McCain, George Bush, Phil Gramm just don't understand is that the American people aren't whining about the state of the economy, they are suffering under the weight of it — the weight of eight years of Bush-enomics that John McCain and Phil Gramm have vowed to continue.

“How dare john McCain and his advisers so callously dismiss the challenges the American people face? No wonder voters feel john McCain is out of touch. He and his campaign don't even understand the everyday issues Americans are dealing with.”

Also:

The not-so-straight talk express?

McCain dodges question on Viagra, contraceptives

Jul 9, 9:12 PM (ET)

By CHARLES BABINGTON

PORTSMOUTH, Ohio (AP) - Republican John McCain prides himself on being a straight talker. But he resisted being dragged into a discussion Wednesday about insurance companies that cover Viagra but not birth control products.

"I certainly do not want to discuss that issue," the presidential candidate said when a reporter asked him about it on his campaign bus, the "Straight Talk Express."

A few seats away was Carly Fiorina, a top McCain supporter who stirred talk about the topic at a recent Washington breakfast with reporters. The former Hewlett-Packard chief executive, discussing consumer-driven health insurance, mentioned something "I've been hearing a lot about from women: There are many health insurance plans that will cover Viagra but won't cover birth-control medication. Those women would like a choice."

Fiorina is among McCain's most prominent female advisers, and seen by some as a possible choice to be his running mate.

When asked Wednesday if he had voted in the Senate against a proposal to require insurance companies to cover contraceptive products, McCain replied, "I don't know enough about it to give you an informed answer because I don't recall the vote... I don't usually duck an issue, but I'll try to get back to you."

Campaign spokesman Brian Rogers later said Fiorina was describing McCain's "vision for choice and competition in health insurance." He said McCain will open insurance markets "for greater variety and competition, allowing women to choose policies that fit their needs. An example is the choice for women to dump a policy that only covers Viagra for a policy that covers their real needs."

A Republican policy group said the Senate vote in question was a complicated matter that, among other things, would have supported using federal money to promote emergency contraceptives, which many Americans oppose.

Homyrrh
07-10-2008, 10:27 AM
Former Sen. Phil Gramm, a top economic adviser to presumptive GOP nominee John McCain, referred to the economic slowdown as "a mental recession*" and called the United States “a nation of whiners**.”
*-Inexplainable, especially as the S&P hit Bear yesterday.

**--Well, the truth. Gas prices are high, house prices suck, food's expensive...but we have nescessities and a million times what the vast majority of the rest of the world can even comprehend let alone have. Still, the comments are brash.
My Surrogate's Comment Doesn't Represent My Views, Part 157
Which candidate?

MadsenOMC
07-10-2008, 10:29 AM
Which candidate?

Phil Gramm is an economic adviser to McCain.

Homyrrh
07-10-2008, 01:55 PM
That's wonderful.

I was exposing the subjectiveness of the thread, which, though usually not a problem, implies a distinct sense of incurred blindness, though probably self-inflicted.

MadsenOMC
07-10-2008, 01:59 PM
That's wonderful.

I was exposing the subjectiveness of the thread, which, though usually not a problem, implies a distinct sense of incurred blindness, though probably self-inflicted.

I have acknowledged that both candidates have had to deal with this, so I'm not sure what your problem is here. It's always something. You seem like a really unhappy person.

MadsenOMC
07-10-2008, 02:09 PM
This is politics, we're here to debate and argue. You seem to always have a problem with anything McCain does, should I claim you're unhappy as well?

You seem to have a problem with everything Obama does. Are you unhappy?

SpoonMan, to the rescue!

SpoonMan999
07-10-2008, 02:12 PM
I have acknowledged that both candidates have had to deal with this, so I'm not sure what your problem is here. It's always something. You seem like a really unhappy person.

This is politics, we're here to debate and argue. You seem to always have a problem with anything McCain does, should I claim you're unhappy as well?

Homyrrh
07-10-2008, 02:22 PM
I have acknowledged that both candidates have had to deal with this, so I'm not sure what your problem is here. It's always something. You seem like a really unhappy person.
You seem to have a problem with everything Obama does. Are you unhappy?

SpoonMan, to the rescue!
Unhappy in the context of the election, course! I have a conservative candidate with a platform that has yet to fully substantiate, and a liberal opponent who, thugh he'd never get my vote, doesn't seem too bad but surrounds himself with some of the dirtiest POSes I've ever seen.

Otherwise, life is good. Vacation next week, just got an awesome gift from someone, etc. Did you want to talk about something?

SpoonMan999
07-10-2008, 02:24 PM
You seem to have a problem with everything Obama does. Are you unhappy?

SpoonMan, to the rescue!

See, turning my question around like that accomplished nothing. My comment was criticizing the irrelevance of how happy Hom is or isn't in relation to his comment criticizing the thread.