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robk
07-14-2008, 01:21 PM
Before the remake, of course, Michael's story continued with #'s 4, 5, & 6, which themselves were 'erased' by both H20 & Resurrection.

4 & 5, of course, had hotties Danielle Harris & Ellie Cornell, as well as the always dependable Donald Pleasance (the only saving grace in 6, since Rachel was now dead & Danielle wisely turned it down).

H20, however, did a better job referencing the 1st 2 films of the series and the mention of Loomis in the film's beginning was nicely done. A pity Resurrection would $hit all over that good will.
The only part of 5 I disliked was that silly 'man in black'. As stupid as Resurrection was, at least 'he' didn't appear.

So, which 'storyline' do you prefer?

shoe1985
07-14-2008, 01:36 PM
This is a touchy subject for fans of the series. I enjoy the H4-H6 storyline better. It didn't go in with the idea of forgetting the previous entries. It tried to expand upon the current storyline, and we all know many will either hate or love it. Now H4 started the trilogy off well, H5 had some good moments but it was rushed, and H6 had a great script, but the wrong people making the film.

H20 is a movie I like. I do enjoy going back to the basics and trying to make the story simple again. I wish they would of at least included the very simple scene of mentioned H4-H6, but I do understand it would have confused new fans and the general audiences. But the movie is too Screamish, but all movies were at the time. The movie was a little too short for my tastes, and could have used a good 15-20 minutes more of movie.

Then we have Resurrection. Similar to H3, it isn't a bad standalone movie. The movie wasn't really bad, but it doesn't fit with the series. It doesn't really seem like a Halloween movie after Laurie dies, and even then, it doesn't. This hurt what H20 created, and if they could have gotten Josh Hartnett back, it could have been an interesting follow up of Michael chasing him.

I will say H4-H6 is better.

poguesfan
07-14-2008, 03:51 PM
I have polarized opinions about Halloween 4-6. I rather enjoyed Halloween 4, but I thought parts 5 and 6 were just fucking stupid. I loved the fact that they brought back Michael Meyers and Donald Pleasance still fucking rocked, but even the inclusion of these two pivitol plot devices still couldn't save the franchise, and you can tell by part 4 that Donald was only there to collect his paycheck.

Halloween H20 was for lack of a better word dumb. Even Jamie Lee Curtis couldn't save this useless turd. Bascially to sum it up Michael Meyers wanders onto the set of Dawson's Creek and the shennigans insue.

Halloween Resurrection or let's watch Busta Rhymes make a complete ass of himself. Horrible in all accounts, when Busta Rhymes delievered his infamous "trick or treat motherfucker," line to Michael, I wanted to bury Michael's butcher knife into my own fucking head.

g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-14-2008, 04:23 PM
H4-6 no doubts.

Ratlehed
07-14-2008, 05:41 PM
This is a touchy subject for fans of the series. I enjoy the H4-H6 storyline better. It didn't go in with the idea of forgetting the previous entries. It tried to expand upon the current storyline, and we all know many will either hate or love it. Now H4 started the trilogy off well, H5 had some good moments but it was rushed, and H6 had a great script, but the wrong people making the film.

H20 is a movie I like. I do enjoy going back to the basics and trying to make the story simple again. I wish they would of at least included the very simple scene of mentioned H4-H6, but I do understand it would have confused new fans and the general audiences. But the movie is too Screamish, but all movies were at the time. The movie was a little too short for my tastes, and could have used a good 15-20 minutes more of movie.



I will say H4-H6 is better.


I agree with 4-6. At least Mike is a little scary and has some super strength. In H20 hes not scary and in Ressurection Busta kick his ass. He seems to much like a regular crazy guy in H20 and H:R.

Part 4 is really good. It has the Halloween feel. Five has its moments. Too bad they ruined the man in black. He could've made the series a little better if they played it right. If they would've stuck to the producer cut of 6 it would've been alot better. The theatre version is okay but it spins outta control by the half way point. The rock soundtrack is also dumb. H20 isnt bad for what it is. It doesnt feel like part of the series though. Ressurection is to dumb for words. They take an established villian and ruin him.

XCoRyX
07-14-2008, 09:57 PM
H4-H6 without any competition whatsoever.

MisterTwister
07-14-2008, 11:35 PM
H4-H6 without any competition whatsoever.

Halloween 5, H20 and Resurrection are the worst of the series.

Halloween 4 is the best sequel of the series and Halloween 6 theatrical cut is pretty decent and the producer's cut is pretty damn good.

Despite being directed by a studio drone and fucked over by Dimension, Halloween 6 is a far better directed and written film than that piece of shit Halloween 5. That film was beyond dumb (look cops making clown noises!) has annoying characters and resorted one of our favorite movie killers to a crying mess.

I hate you Dominique Othenin-Girard.

H20 and Resurrection made it feel like Michael Myers wandered onto the set of a WB teen drama. Although not Halloween 5 bad, they were diasters.

I'll take Rob Zombie's remake over them any day of the week.

XCoRyX
07-15-2008, 01:42 AM
I include Zombies edition to be in the same veins of H2O & Resurrection... the "I'll never bother with you again" types. And go figure they're the only 3 I got to see on the big screen.

2,4 and 6 for me are the 3 most kickass and rewatchable. The original is a given masterpiece so I overshadow the sequels because everybody already knows of the originals greatness. I recently got the P-Cut of H6 and didn't even enjoy it,and find the T-Cut a million times better.

shoe1985
07-15-2008, 04:50 PM
I include Zombies edition to be in the same veins of H2O & Resurrection... the "I'll never bother with you again" types. And go figure they're the only 3 I got to see on the big screen.

2,4 and 6 for me are the 3 most kickass and rewatchable. The original is a given masterpiece so I overshadow the sequels because everybody already knows of the originals greatness. I recently got the P-Cut of H6 and didn't even enjoy it,and find the T-Cut a million times better.

I prefer the P-Cut of H6, but I do enjoy the T-Cut. It isn't a good movie, but there are some really good scenes in the movie. I feel both versions are very strong until the find 15-20 minutes when they go to Smith's Grove. What could have been a very interesting ending turned into a what the hell were they thinking ending. If they didn't have the green ooze at the end of the T-Cut, I don't believe it would be as bashed as it was. Tommy beats the crap out of Michael with a steel pipe, I never understood the backlash from this? If you get hit by a steel pipe, you are going down.

Ratlehed
07-15-2008, 05:58 PM
I include Zombies edition to be in the same veins of H2O & Resurrection... the "I'll never bother with you again" types. And go figure they're the only 3 I got to see on the big screen.

2,4 and 6 for me are the 3 most kickass and rewatchable. The original is a given masterpiece so I overshadow the sequels because everybody already knows of the originals greatness. I recently got the P-Cut of H6 and didn't even enjoy it,and find the T-Cut a million times better.

Same here. I saw part 6,H20, Ressurection and Zombies Halloween in the theatres. They are my least faves. I 'll watch 6 once in a great while. But I dont bother revisiting the others. Part 6 is actually really good in comparison to 5, H20, and Zombies version. I do own all the DVDs though for completist sake.

I like the P-Cut alot better than the T-Cut. At least the P-cut has a cool ending. I still dont get the end of the T-Cut with babies in glass and green fluids and what not.

MisterTwister
07-15-2008, 07:30 PM
Same here. I saw part 6,H20, Ressurection and Zombies Halloween in the theatres. They are my least faves. I 'll watch 6 once in a great while. But I dont bother revisiting the others. Part 6 is actually really good in comparison to 5, H20, and Zombies version. I do own all the DVDs though for completist sake.

I like the P-Cut alot better than the T-Cut. At least the P-cut has a cool ending. I still dont get the end of the T-Cut with babies in glass and green fluids and what not.

The T-cut ending was written by the director, which explains why it makes no fucking sense what-so-ever.

The P-cut is cool beans IMO. I would like to see a sequel based on that ending.

shoe1985
07-15-2008, 08:42 PM
The T-cut ending was written by the director, which explains why it makes no fucking sense what-so-ever.

The P-cut is cool beans IMO. I would like to see a sequel based on that ending.

Both versions' endings were written by the director. The P-Cut ending came from different drafts of the script, but the dialogue was all the director.

MisterTwister
07-15-2008, 09:01 PM
Both versions' endings were written by the director. The P-Cut ending came from different drafts of the script, but the dialogue was all the director.

Yeah but only the dialouge, not the whole scene in general.

He wrote the Michael Myers bleeds green BS we saw in theaters.

a7xfan
07-16-2008, 05:54 PM
He seems to much like a regular crazy guy in H20 and H:R.


that's the reason i found him scary in the first place. ;)


i have yet to watch 4,5 ad 6. i started to watch 4, but got bored, will try again soon tho. danielle harris is the cutest little kid i have ever seen in that film. she turned out a really fucking hottie.

doe the second part of my post make me sound like a creep? :(

Ratlehed
07-16-2008, 06:17 PM
that's the reason i found him scary in the first place. ;)

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Thats what made him scary in the first one. But after taking 6 shots to the chest and falling off the balcony, only to quick get up and take off. He lost that "crazy human" thing and became more of a force of nature. So to go back and make him more human again was kind of dumb. Esp. after part 2 where he gets shot in the eyes and only takes a step back.

ilovemovies
08-29-2008, 12:19 PM
I'm probably the only one who liked Resurrection. I wasn't happy that they killed Laurie, although at least they did it in such a way that they could POSSIBLY bring her back if they wanted to since I think it's plausible that she could have survived IMO.

But otherwise, I really liked the storyline involving the internet reality show. I thought it was a pretty cool plot gimmick and they used it very well IMO.

Halloween 4 is my favorite of the entire franchise, however I'm going with H20 and Res because those two movies are definitely better movies than 5 and 6. Although I enjoyed 6 in a guilty pleasure kind of way.


H4 - 7/10
H5 - 5/10
H6 - 6/10

H20 - 7/10
Resurrection - 7/10

PSU80
02-19-2009, 09:20 PM
Is this a serious question??? Maybe I'm too much one direction and not enough in the other.

H4-H6: H4 was a masterpiece and the other two definitely had their flaws, but Michael Myers was still MM, not a CGI enhanced pussy who lives under a house or switches costumes with a paramedic. Overall-9/10.

H20-HR: H20 was decent and it was great to see Jamie Lee Curtis. Had Resurrection not been made, this would have been one of the best in the series. Overall-7/10.

poopontheshoes7
02-19-2009, 11:48 PM
H20 gets not respect. Its the only good sequel after Halloween 2.

I personally think Resurrection is an abomination. Fans think Zombie fucked it up? HA! Resurrection was more of a kick in the nuts then Zombies film will ever be.

Soulburn420
02-20-2009, 01:30 AM
H20 gets not respect. Its the only good sequel after Halloween 2.

I personally think Resurrection is an abomination. Fans think Zombie fucked it up? HA! Resurrection was more of a kick in the nuts then Zombies film will ever be.

I will get it out of the way. I HATE the remake. But The Poopmeister is corrrect, in my opinion. It was 100 times better than seeing Busta Rhymes ninja-kisking old Micheal. Not saying it was good, but at LEAST there was none of that shit.

MisterTwister
02-20-2009, 01:41 AM
Right on Poop. The remake owns Resurrection's shitty ass.

MistAh BlistAh
02-20-2009, 01:45 AM
Halloween 4 - 8.5/10
Halloween 5 - 6.5/10
Halloween 6 - 5/10

Versus

H20 - 8/10
Resurrection - 1/10

Winner: H4-6


The remake was better then Resurrection but at least Resurrection was better then season of the witch.

MisterTwister
02-20-2009, 01:48 AM
Halloween 4 - 8.5/10
Halloween 5 - 6.5/10
Halloween 6 - 5/10

Versus

H20 - 8/10
Resurrection - 1/10

Winner: H4-6


The remake was better then Resurrection but at least Resurrection was better then season of the witch.

Season of the Witch owns Resurrection.

MistAh BlistAh
02-20-2009, 01:53 AM
Season of the Witch owns Resurrection.

Neeeeeeever!

The first 10 minutes of Resurrection whoops part 3 easy. Resurrection is pretty bad, well, really really bad, but Season of the Witch is the worst movie I've ever seen, and prolly will ever see, I never plan on seeing that shit ever again to be honest, Resurrection will get another play somewhere down the road...

poopontheshoes7
02-20-2009, 12:32 PM
While I hate Season of thw Witch, it doesnt totally shit on Michael like Resurrection does. Everything about Resurrection just felt false and forced. As soon as the movie started I just felt like it was to much. It ended on such a perfect note in H20 that anything afterward was just grasping at straws

MisterTwister
02-20-2009, 02:13 PM
Neeeeeeever!

The first 10 minutes of Resurrection whoops part 3 easy. Resurrection is pretty bad, well, really really bad, but Season of the Witch is the worst movie I've ever seen, and prolly will ever see, I never plan on seeing that shit ever again to be honest, Resurrection will get another play somewhere down the road...

Worst movie you've ever seen? You have to seriously watch more movies man. There's MUCH MUCH worse movies out there then Season of the Witch.

MistAh BlistAh
02-20-2009, 02:23 PM
Worst movie you've ever seen? You have to seriously watch more movies man. There's MUCH MUCH worse movies out there then Season of the Witch.

Oh, I've seen plenty of movies, I just hate that one with a passion.

MisterTwister
02-20-2009, 03:08 PM
Oh, I've seen plenty of movies, I just hate that one with a passion.

It hates you the same;)

MistAh BlistAh
02-20-2009, 04:59 PM
It hates you the same;)

haha, I would hope so... :D

Sgizzy316
02-28-2009, 08:04 PM
H2O was the best out of the selected, but as a whole 4-6 beats out H2O and Resurrection.