Michael Savage is the worst person alive.

[FLAME_ON]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25788692/

I'll joke around about almost any sensitive subject and I won't take offense to most things... But my God man, to call autistic children "brats who haven’t been told to cut the act out." and say, “What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.” you gotta be a fucking idiot.

I might agree if he was talking about the large number of the kids out there who are misdiagnosed with ADD or ADHD. But he's not... he's talking about autism.
This man deserves to lose his job immediately. And maybe his life also.

[Tweek]

Moron!

A brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out? I'd like to see him actually be among autistic children of different levels of the disorder. From the ones who can't communicate at all to the ones who can communicate but still don't process things the same way he would. Yep, I'm sure an autistic person who doesn't respond to anyone will cut their "act". Or he's just an asshat. Yeah I'm sure it will dawn on a kid that they won't GET ANYWHERE IN LIFE so they'll shape right the fuck up? There are people with high-functioning autism that work and are productive. But the others that are "acting" probably won't.


99%? Ugh, conjecture.


He should spend a day in a Special Education classroom in an elementary school.


Oh... To the inevitable freedom of speech argument that will be made: It doesn't mean anyone else can't state their own views on this.


I'm done.

[echo_bravo]

Yeah I heard his little rant. It made me cringe.

BTW, he hasnt even apologized for it either. I think he went on the next day and backed up his arguement.:eek:

[DrJellyfingers]

Fucking tool. he has no clue what it's like to be around an autistic child. spending a day in a special education classroom is a good idea. he should try telling some autistic children to cut the act out and see how far he gets.

[Lost in Space]

Oh... To the inevitable freedom of speech argument that will be made: It doesn't mean anyone else can't state their own views on this.



Technically this does fall under freedom of speech...

[Mr.HyDe807]

I volunteered at a special needs camp during my past summers, as well as for a program at the church i go to. Hell, i'm even majoring for Special education.This guy is a fucking moron, and should learn to learn up on things before he opens his fucking mouth.

Douche.:mad:

[CyclicNightmare]

“In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out,” Savage said on his radio program last Wednesday.

Savage offered no apology in a message posted Monday on his Web site. He said greedy doctors and drug companies were creating a “national panic” by overdiagnosing autism, a mental disorder that inhibits a person’s ability to communicate.

“What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.”’

[Mr.HyDe807]

“In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out,” Savage said on his radio program last Wednesday.

Savage offered no apology in a message posted Monday on his Web site. He said greedy doctors and drug companies were creating a “national panic” by overdiagnosing autism, a mental disorder that inhibits a person’s ability to communicate.

“What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.”’

Oh yes Savage, because with Autism, ITS THAT EASY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[electriclite]

This is the same guy who called kids who were killed in drug shootouts as ghetto slime or something to that effect.

There's nothing new with this guy. He is "a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out,” and to do some fucking research about the difference between ADD/ADHD and fucking Autism.

They'll give any retard a microphone.

[ElderPredator]

What a fucking douchebag! :mad:

He should be taken off the air just like that fucking pig Imus for his racist bullshit. He obviously doesn't realize how painful it is for parents who have children that suffer from autism. The fact that your child can't even look you in the eyes is a horrible thought and I don't even have kids yet.

I hope that parents with a child suffering from autism speak to the FCC and have him banned from broadcasting.

[Lost in Space]

While the man is crazy, I think he has something in his point about over diagnosis of some mental disabilities. Not autism, per se, but ADD and maybe even ADHD.

[ElderPredator]

While the man is crazy, I think he has something in his point about over diagnosis of some mental disabilities. Not autism, per se, but ADD and maybe even ADHD.

Very true but he deliberately attacked autism in general. He may be doing this for attention but that is truly pathetic.

[JJFlamingo]

Who's Michael Savage?? :confused:

[RustyRazor]

Who's Michael Savage?? :confused:

A piece of shit with a forum to broadcast his idiotic drivel, apparently.
Never head of him before today.
Now, I wish his dad had pulled out of his mom before making such a grievious error.

What a waste of skin and organs.

[AshleysDad]

[QUOTE=FLAME_ON;2814491I might agree if he was talking about the large number of the kids out there who are misdiagnosed with ADD or ADHD. But he's not... he's talking about autism.
This man deserves to lose his job immediately. And maybe his life also.[/QUOTE]


He did it for the attention and ratings. The man is a disgrace and he will probably get a raise or if he gets fired will get a new job at a higher rate somewhere else. I would hope he meant ADD or ADHD.

I will say this. As a new father, doctors seem to be looking for any sort of sign of Autism or something else and ready to say you kid has this or that. One doctor tried to say something that we should keep an eye out for autism and I litterly ripped him a new asshole. Months later, I have the happiest little baby in the world and she in 100% healthy. Thank God!

[Luv2Run]

I listened to the actual broadcast of Savage and he said that a certain percent of autism patients are misdiagnosed as autistic. Then he said:

"In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out,” etc.

I think it's also noteworthy that Savages brother died from what he sees as a misdiagnosis and mistreatment of a loved one.

I think his overall message was to watch out for "bad doctors" and parents who are not interested in finding the root of the problem.

What he said may have been off-sides, but he is a PhD in two fields, one of which has to do with medicines.

BTW, I too have a couple of "ADD" and "Autistic" diagnosed family members.

[electriclite]

He did it for the attention and ratings. The man is a disgrace and he will probably get a raise or if he gets fired will get a new job at a higher rate somewhere else. I would hope he meant ADD or ADHD.

I will say this. As a new father, doctors seem to be looking for any sort of sign of Autism or something else and ready to say you kid has this or that. One doctor tried to say something that we should keep an eye out for autism and I litterly ripped him a new asshole. Months later, I have the happiest little baby in the world and she in 100% healthy. Thank God!
Well, this might tie into the vicious circle, but it seems to be because its on the rise.

Better safe than sorry no?

[JJFlamingo]

I'm not defending this guy, but let me say this:

I've personally known of a number of cases of parents actually PUSHING for an autistic diagnosis for their kids as an excuse to fall back on for BAD PARENTING and LACK OF DISCIPLINE. If the kid acts up and causes havoc, they can just say, "Well, he can't help it, he's autistic."

Example: I have a family member with a kid who's allegedly been diagnosed, yet the kid makes eye contact and talks normally like any other. Yet, at family gatherings, he likes to raise hell while his mom turns her back and socializes, pretending that she's not a parent for the time being, and ONLY when someone gets in her face about his behavior will she take action. I'm not saying the kid doesn't have SOME kind of mental disorder, but it can all be swept under the carpet with the autism defense, and it just seems that doctors today are using it as the end-all explanation as to why some kids are so hard to control...:D

[Moviefan1234]

This guy is wasting my fucking oxygen.

[AshleysDad]

Well, this might tie into the vicious circle, but it seems to be because its on the rise.

Better safe than sorry no?

Better safe than sorry is well and fine. All things in the world are on the rise, but most are not percentage wise, only by the numbers. Of course the numbers are going higher every year, there are more people on the earth every year. The percent is what to look out for.

In my experience, there is a difference between young and old doctors. Older doctors are more straight forward, seem to explain things more and are just plain ole old fashioned. For me, give me an older doctor. For my kid, give me the younger doctor. Then I tell the older dr what the younger on said.

[Luv2Run]

Before you say yay or nay, take a look at this:

www.michaelsavage.com

browse around, read what he actually said... it's been taken out of context and misinterpreted.

[X-Nightcrawler]

Who's Michael Savage?? :confused:
Word. Never heard of the man.

Does sound like a complete tool, though.

[electriclite]

Better safe than sorry is well and fine. All things in the world are on the rise, but most are not percentage wise, only by the numbers. Of course the numbers are going higher every year, there are more people on the earth every year. The percent is what to look out for.

In my experience, there is a difference between young and old doctors. Older doctors are more straight forward, seem to explain things more and are just plain ole old fashioned. For me, give me an older doctor. For my kid, give me the younger doctor. Then I tell the older dr what the younger on said.
Well the key is the second opinion, although these days it more like the 6th.



I had a aunt who saw God knows how many doctors to try and figure out why her kidneys were shedding protein into her urine. It wasn't till a world renowned specialist in renal functions met her that the problem was finally diagnosed. Not only that but the guy called her former doctors and reamed them for their past diagnosis' and course of treatment.

[someguy]

a pretty easy target, i mean a good chunk of them wont be able to send him hate mail

it's like picking on people with alzheimer's, you don't feel bad cause they'll forget about it 5 minutes later

[fixedMind]

I dont agree with what the prick has to say, its obvious he's a short-sided misanthrope. I will however defend the guys right to say and think whatever the fuck he wants. If it bothers you, that may be a sign that your just as egocentric as the rest of us.

[Sigur509]

Bunch of savages in this town.

[Tweek]

Before you say yay or nay, take a look at this:

www.michaelsavage.com

browse around, read what he actually said... it's been taken out of context and misinterpreted.

My sound is all screwy. :(

But what's written on this page. (http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=1126)

Sounds strikingly different from:

“In 99 percent of the cases, it’s a brat who hasn’t been told to cut the act out,”

“What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.”’

How does THAT get the more reasonable point posted on his page across? I would hope he anticipated some controversy. For every misdiagnosed autistic child, you're going to have the parent of an autistic child wanting his head.

from his site:
As the brother of a severely disabled person who suffered and died in a New York "snake-pit" of a "mental hospital," I know first-hand what true disability is.

I find it hard to believe someone could sincerely make those comments after knowing this first-hand.

[Tweek]

I dont agree with what the prick has to say, its obvious he's a short-sided misanthrope. I will however defend the guys right to say and think whatever the fuck he wants. If it bothers you, that may be a sign that your just as egocentric as the rest of us.

No way. I always considered myself a 100% selfless saint. He has the right to say it, as I have the right to be annoyed by it. Are my rantings not freedom of speech, however incoherent they are?

:confused:

[X-Nightcrawler]

I find it hard to believe someone could sincerely make those comments after knowing this first-hand.Unless you're a complete melonfarming turd. Stop having so much faith in people, you!

[Tweek]

Unless you're a complete melonfarming turd. Stop having so much faith in people, you!

NEVER! -digs heels into ground-

[Lady Stardust]

Freaking jackass. I just so happen to be autistic (or so my dad claims -__-)

[Luv2Run]

Tweek:

I'm sure he knew this would be controversial. He enjoys that realm, but I don't believe he meant any harm to the real autistics or they're families. I think he's sick of bad doctors who are the equivalent of drug dealers- that's the way he sees it. He's also annoyed with parents who don't want to parent.

[fixedMind]

No way. I always considered myself a 100% selfless saint. He has the right to say it, as I have the right to be annoyed by it. Are my rantings not freedom of speech, however incoherent they are?

:confused:

Of course they are. I wasn't saying people shouldn't be annoyed or offended by what assholes say. Just that its really kind of pointless. At least in my opinion.

[Tweek]

Tweek:

I'm sure he knew this would be controversial. He enjoys that realm, but I don't believe he meant any harm to the real autistics or they're families. I think he's sick of bad doctors who are the equivalent of drug dealers- that's the way he sees it. He's also annoyed with parents who don't want to parent.

Again, more understandable and reasonable than his earlier rants. And it didn't sound like he really acknowledged the people who are truly afflicted with autism as truly afflicted. And the comments and follow-up don't really connect... Meh.


Of course they are. I wasn't saying people shouldn't be annoyed or offended by what assholes say. Just that its really kind of pointless. At least in my opinion.

Oh, I gotcha. The rage has kinda simmered and I'm taking out my anger on a voodoo doll. Just kidding. :p

[Elgyn]

Why does this surprise anyone?

This is the same guy who`s TV show got cancelled after he told a homosexual caller that he "should get AIDS and die".:rolleyes:

[eljefe15]

Savage is a douche bag on many levels.

[MoovEDude]

Why are our airwaves dominated by these conservatard REICH-WING talking head assholes?

Savage
O Reilly
Limbaugh
Coulter

I'm glad Randi Rhodes (liberal) got kicked off cuz she was as inflammatory as Coulterbeast

[eljefe15]

You forgot Sean Hannity. I think he's second after Limbaugh in ratings. And I think the answer to your question is because most liberals I know don't listen to the radio. We're actually living IN the 21st century.

I like your "Reich-Wing" phrase, by the way. Nicely done.

[Tweek]

Why does this surprise anyone?

This is the same guy who`s TV show got cancelled after he told a homosexual caller that he "should get AIDS and die".:rolleyes:

Didn't that guy make a lame jab at his TEETH and Savage went into that tirade? Yikes.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

I dont agree with what the prick has to say, its obvious he's a short-sided misanthrope. I will however defend the guys right to say and think whatever the fuck he wants. If it bothers you, that may be a sign that your just as egocentric as the rest of us.

No. If you are offended by things from time to time, that makes you human. People who walk around not giving a shit about anything are nihilists who will eventually blow their brains out from boredom.

[echo_bravo]

Why are our airwaves dominated by these conservatard REICH-WING talking head assholes?


I think its because people on the right actually drive to work so they listen to talk radio while people on the left ride these silly things called bicycles trying to save the enviroment and dont listen to talk radio. Silly libs.;)

[screamer581]

I think its because people on the right actually drive to work so they listen to talk radio while people on the left ride these silly things called bicycles trying to save the enviroment and dont listen to talk radio. Silly libs.;)

I ride the bus, thank you very much. :)

[MISFITS_Fiend]

Not that I'm a fan of Michael Savage (he is the most close-minded guy in talk radio that I've ever seen), but he did try and explain his position later. According to him he was railing on doctors and drug companies, not kids with autism. He said they are too quick to make the autism diagnosis and load the kids up on drugs they don't really need.

It's probably bullshit, but take it as you will...

[MoovEDude]

I refuse to believe Savage.. he was back peddling..dont forget, this is the same piece of shit who told a gay caller, to get aids and die.

[Lawgick]

Yeah I heard his little rant. It made me cringe.

BTW, he hasnt even apologized for it either. I think he went on the next day and backed up his arguement.:eek:


Why are you expecting an apology? Doesn't sound like he didn't mean or like he was joking around so why the hell would he apologize? He said what he meant. You didn't like and I didn't like but what good is it for him to give an apology he doesn't mean?

I swear this society has really made us fuckin idiots.

[Tweek]

Why are you expecting an apology? Doesn't sound like he didn't mean or like he was joking around so why the hell would he apologize? He said what he meant. You didn't like and I didn't like but what good is it for him to give an apology he doesn't mean?

I swear this society has really made us fuckin idiots.

Well, he said the comments, then tried to back pedal in a statement (they just didn't make sense...) But I know what you mean. Any apology would be coerced probably and meant to appease.

[therealjohng]

Not that I'm a fan of Michael Savage (he is the most close-minded guy in talk radio that I've ever seen)


Irony?

[Brando @$$ Fat]

Irony?

How does that constitute irony?

[Tweek]

How does that constitute irony?

I thought it was funny because of "the most close-minded guy in talk radio that I've seen". Dunno about therealjohng, though.

[MISFITS_Fiend]

I thought it was funny because of "the most close-minded guy in talk radio that I've seen". Dunno about therealjohng, though.

Okay, heard. I suppose close-minded was the wrong word as well, though. More like ignorance. I remember one day he was bitching about violence in movies and brought up There Will Be Blood like it was a gorefest. The next day he had Sly Stallone on promoting Rambo. That's irony.

[Beenthere]

A piece of shit with a forum to broadcast his idiotic drivel, apparently.
Never head of him before today.
Now, I wish his dad had pulled out of his mom before making such a grievious error.

What a waste of skin and organs.


You never heard of him before and called him all these names. I bet he got more wisdom in his finger than... Now I stop because I can't offend anyone personally here.

For anyone who is not "wooden" uber-liberal I would recommend to listen to his show and read the books first before spitting pure hatred.
He's a very good satirist.
The guy was a liberal but life experiences changed him a lot.

I always find it funny when people who say or do something they regret later never give a benefit of the doubt to the others.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

For anyone who is not "wooden" uber-liberal I would recommend to listen to his show and read the books first before spitting pure hatred.

It's not satire when you speak exclusively from one point of view and that point of view happens to be your own.

[Beenthere]

It's not satire when you speak exclusively from one point of view and that point of view happens to be your own.

You don't have to change your beliefs or political platform to be a good satirist. It's about talent. Or you saying you got to be absolutely neutral to be called a satirist? Does it mean all liberal satirists are not satirists because they speak from one point of view and that POW happen to be their own?

And isn't satire supposed to attack? With wit and stuff but still attacks?

And I was not talking about this particular case.

[Brando @$$ Fat]

You don't have to change your beliefs or political platform to be a good satirist. It's about talent. Or you saying you got to be absolutely neutral to be called a satirist? Does it mean all liberal satirists are not satirists because they speak from one point of view and that POW happen to be their own?

And isn't satire supposed to attack? With wit and stuff but still attacks?

And I was not talking about this particular case.

It's not a matter of being politically neutral. The point is to expose the absurdity of something through an objective lens, or as most satirists do it, from the other side's point of view. Traditionally, that's how satire works. There are exceptions, like Dennis Miller and Jon Stewart, but most satirists don't directly state things from their own viewpoint.

[airyanne]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25788692/

I'll joke around about almost any sensitive subject and I won't take offense to most things... But my God man, to call autistic children "brats who haven’t been told to cut the act out." and say, “What do you mean they scream and they’re silent? They don’t have a father around to tell them, ‘Don’t act like a moron. You’ll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don’t sit there crying and screaming, you idiot.” you gotta be a fucking idiot.

I might agree if he was talking about the large number of the kids out there who are misdiagnosed with ADD or ADHD. But he's not... he's talking about autism.
This man deserves to lose his job immediately. And maybe his life also.

Lose his life? You should run for congress, we need more restrictions on liberty.

[BanksIsDaFuture]

Sounds like a funny guy, I may have to start listening to his show.

[Beenthere]

It's not a matter of being politically neutral. The point is to expose the absurdity of something through an objective lens, or as most satirists do it, from the other side's point of view. Traditionally, that's how satire works. There are exceptions, like Dennis Miller and Jon Stewart, but most satirists don't directly state things from their own viewpoint.

Satire, Brando, is a literary genre. That means always subjective. Only talents matter.

[therealjohng]

I thought it was funny because of "the most close-minded guy in talk radio that I've seen". Dunno about therealjohng, though.


No, that's exactly what I was thinking...

[Preston_79]

Savage is fucking awesome. If he knew me personally he'd be disgusted because I smoke weed and vote liberal, but he makes some fine points and he's very intellectual. His show entertains me even though I don't agree with him much of the time. It's still a good show.

I've heard what he said, read it, and the fact is that you'd have to have heard more of what he's said about mental illness and doctors misdiagnosing people to see his statements in there true context.

He's not really that important though so I'm surprised someone even started a thread about him. There are bigger fish to fry.

That being said I hope he stays on the air.