PETA and TDK

[AshleysDad]

I know there is a post about animal abuse, but I could not find it.


"In what should come as a shock to absolutely no one, PETA announced that it is upset with The Dark Knight because of a short scene in which Batman beats a few dogs in self-defense. PETA obviously has nothing better to complain about.

But to really show Batman the error of his ways, the animal rights organization removed him from its list of Top 10 Animal-Friendly Superheroes. Ouch. There’s also some great lines in the rant: “They didn’t need to make Batman into a dogphobic man!” True poetry. Then PETA asks, “Doesn’t the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?” Um, PETA? Did you even see the movie or are you simply unaware of how dumb you sound?



Like the rest of the entire world, I went and saw The Dark Knight this weekend, and also like the rest of the entire world, I was impressed with this darker take on the Batman mythos. I’m all for having Heath Ledger win the Oscar, and my superhero-comic-loving-nerd-patrol side could gush for hours about the intensity of this movie. But my animal-protector soul had a serious problem with a few scenes. Batman beats dogs—who knew?? P’shaw! And to think we gave him a spot on our coveted Top 10 Animal-Friendly Superhero list!

While I love that The Dark Knight lived up to its name by exploring the noiresque Frank Miller-inspired themes of Gotham’s protector, they didn’t need to make Batman into a dogphobic man! Batman is an icon, a superhero genius that beats up gun-toting thugs using only his iron fist of justice—KA-POW! He looks damn good in pleather while owning the streets, yet in The Dark Knight, he was punching out dogs left and right. Sure, it was self-defense, but doesn’t the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?

Because of this serious misstep for what’s otherwise a masterpiece, we’ve decided to take all the write-in votes for Hellboy seriously, knock our batvocate pal off the list, and replace him with the kitten-cuddling man in red."

[Raimo69]

the first time i saw the dark knight. I knew someone was going to bitch about the dog part. Especially at the end when he basically kills or hurts 3 of them

[sbunn10]

haha.. "the man with the James Bond gadgets" PETA is dumb..

[detective mills]

I thought it was hilarious the way he manhandled those dogs. You don't see that in movies nowadays. But I knew someone like PETA was going to complain about it.

[Homyrrh]

So if I was attacked by a horde of rottweilers intent on my mortality...peanut butter treats? Hell he just tossed them aside, I would've shottied their misbehaving canine asses.

[xseanymacx]

What's worst than that though is when Joker first starts beating down with the pipe. The dog was still clearly on Bat's chest. Joker was hitting EVERYTHING.

[KenSPT]

Seriously, how funny would it be if Batman pulled Snausages out of his utility belt?

[Weapon X]

Seriously, how funny would it be if Batman pulled Snausages out of his utility belt?

Preferable to shark repellent, I suppose.

[electriclite]

In some foggy part of my mind while watching TDK, I could actually see this coming.

[john_rambo]

PETA is a bunch of uptight pricks. I do not condone animal cruelty, but come on in a movie where he attacks 100 times more people, why are they complaining about the damn dogs. It is not like they actually hurt the dogs.

[KenSPT]

PETA is a bunch of uptight pricks. I do not condone animal cruelty, but come on in a movie where he attacks 100 times more people, why are they complaining about the damn dogs. It is not like they actually hurt the dogs.

Imagine the uproar if he battled Catwoman ...

[JJFlamingo]

They were vicious attack dogs that he had to fight off. As long as they weren't hurt in real life, no problems here...:D

[axel2k8]

You know, I thought I saw Batman throwing a dog over the edge of an unfinished floor in the construction site. I was like "Damn, did he really just do that?"

[zombievictim]

I knew this would be an issue when I saw it in theater. Stupid fucking PETA. It's a MOVIE!

[KenSPT]

You know, I thought I saw Batman throwing a dog over the edge of an unfinished floor in the construction site. I was like "Damn, did he really just do that?"

What I want to know is what these PETA advocates would do if they were attacked in the same manner Batman was?

Do they carry around dog treats just in case something like that happens? Even if they did, do you honestly think angry, vicious, dogs like that would give a crap? They'd enjoy the treat after they bite your hand off.

I'm not the type of guy who goes around kicking puppies, but if I'm ever attacked by an angry dog I'm going to do everything in my power to get the dog off of me and make sure it doesn't attack me again. If that means hurting it, so be it.

Seriously, would those advocates allow themselves to get mauled so as to not hurt the dogs, or would they defend themselves?

If it's the former, they're morons, if it's the later, they're hypocrites.

Now, for no reason whatsoever, here's a photo of Patricia Heaton ...

http://www.tuccioholic.com/IMAGES/PATRICIA%20HEATON%20KEN%20TUCCIO%20TUCCIOHOLIC%20A NSONIA.JPG

[FireCaptain4]

... and PETA wonders why nobody takes them seriously.

[Tye61790]

OMG! PETA needs to get a life! It's not real! It's a freaking movie for god's sake. I would have done the same thing if those dogs were attacking me. They were trained killing dogs. Pounds put down dogs all the time, and a lot are aggressive dogs. So why PETA is bitching I don't understand. For god's sake, The Joker was trying to beat Batman to death, and he was trying to get the dogs off him so he could fight The Joker, and not be beat to death. Peta are ridiculous. They put animal lives before humans, and its getting out of hand.

[Le_Big_Mac]

Not another TDK thread!

[Sonny Corleone]

Fuck PETA up their stupid fucking asses! I like my steaks eaten fresh off the cow!

[Moviefan1234]

PETA can go fuck off, it's a film for the love of God.

[Nazgul]

Man PETA sure loves animals more than themselves LOL.

[Shockwave]

[B]. Sure, it was self-defense, but doesn’t the man with the James Bond gadgets know anything about peanut butter treats and deflecting devices?
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Heh. Fucking idiots.

[Tweek]

Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.


At least they're not saying the movie will inspire more human on dog violence. Or are they? Where's a link, yo?

[Freddy Krueger]

So they expected Batman to pull out a peanut butter treat and give it to a pack of rabid rottweilers? Do they hear themselves when they speak? Sigh. I don't even know that to say.

[CyclicNightmare]

Follow the rules or GTFO.

[MoovEDude]

I hate PETA and therefore by default, anybody who supports and or has donated to them.

One of the few groups I attach my dislike to their supporters for.

They are sick and twisted and actually value animal life over human.

There's people who wish to protect animals from abuse and then there's PETA.

[athf1980]

Batman did nothing wrong. He was proctecting himself from a dog that tring to kill him.. Most normal person would try to kill the dogs before the dogs kill them. PETA are morons.

[Brendan M.]

LOL, just wait until WATCHMEN comes out!


GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS:
When Rorshach kills a dog with a meat cleaver.

[DimDO]

I must say, I felt bad for those fictitious dogs. But I find this to be rather blown out of proportion, which isn't a surprise coming from PETA.

[The Postmaster General]

A top ten list of animal friendly super heroes? Maybe they should write for Letterman.

What's funny is why they don't take issue with animal control, which forced to put to sleep many dogs due to them being trained to kill and being unleashed on innocent people. I mean, something that's really happening.

[bigred760]

Imagine the uproar if he battled Catwoman ...

Or the Penguin . . . or Killer Croc.

THE HUMANITY!!!!!!!!! :eek:


PETA . . . (here it comes . . . ) why so serious?

[Miss Vicky]

You know, I support animals rights and am a vegetarian. I believe animals should be treated with kindness and respect, but PETA is a bunch of hypocritical motherfuckers who care only about getting their name in the media. Don't get me wrong, I support animals rights groups, but PETA give the entire movement a bad name. Even other organizations have spoken out about PETA's hypocrisy (they've been known to kill the same animals they claim to protect) and bad tactics.

Batman was not randomly beating some poor defenseless puppy. He was fighting off trained attack dogs and when any dog has its mind set on attack, no peanut butter treat is going to stop it. Get real, PETA.

[Danger^Cart]

LOL, just wait until WATCHMEN comes out!


GRAPHIC NOVEL SPOILERS:
When Rorshach kills a dog with a meat cleaver.

Two dogs. ;)

They also vaporize Veidts crazy crossbreed tiger.

[miguel_montes]

You know, I support animals rights and am a vegetarian. I believe animals should be treated with kindness and respect, but PETA is a bunch of hypocritical motherfuckers who care only about getting their name in the media. Don't get me wrong, I support animals rights groups, but PETA give the entire movement a bad name. Even other organizations have spoken out about PETA's hypocrisy (they've been known to kill the same animals they claim to protect) and bad tactics.

Batman was not randomly beating some poor defenseless puppy. He was fighting off trained attack dogs and when any dog has its mind set on attack, no peanut butter treat is going to stop it. Get real, PETA.

Those weren't even real dogs. For the action scenes, they replace the animals with fake ones. It's a safety issue, for the actors and also for the animals.

[Miss Vicky]

Those weren't even real dogs. For the action scenes, they replace the animals with fake ones. It's a safety issue, for the actors and also for the animals.

I'm well aware of that, as is PETA.

That's not the issue. PETA's concern is that we have a heroic figure in a film who is hurting animals. PETA feels that it's going to send message that hurting animals is okay. My argument is that Batman is not shown being truly cruel to those dogs, he is shown simply defending himself from them. If he was shown pulling out a peanut butter treat instead, it wouldn't be at all believable because dogs don't stop attacking just because you offer a treat. And who the hell carries dog treats on them anyway?

[AshleysDad]

I'm well aware of that, as is PETA.

That's not the issue. PETA's concern is that we have a heroic figure in a film who is hurting animals. PETA feels that it's going to send message that hurting animals is okay. My argument is that Batman is not shown being truly cruel to those dogs, he is shown simply defending himself from them. If he was shown pulling out a peanut butter treat instead, it wouldn't be at all believable because dogs don't stop attacking just because you offer a treat. And who the hell carries dog treats on them anyway?



I think the PETA is focusing on the wrong thing. Rather than focus on why Batman beats up the dogs to defend himself, I think PETA would be better served to say that dogs are used for other things than attacking and guarding people. That is still bullshit, but PETA bullshit anyway. They turn more people off by stupid statements like this in the first place.

[muttly69]

Every time you kick a dog an angle gets its wings.

[MoovEDude]

Every time you kick a dog an angle gets its wings.


NO! That just makes baby Jesus cry! :(

Kick a CAT and an angel gets its wings! :D

[Shale]

PETA has a history of such ludicrous complaints and it is a wonder so many celebrities affiliate with them. Here's a sampling:

They complained about TV Survivor contestants eating rats on an island in June 2000. Rats proliferate in great quantity because nature needs to feed all its predators. Those rats were offed more humanely than if by a snake, cat, fox or owl.

In July 2000 they wanted the Green Bay Packers to change their name because it referred to the meat packing industry.

Also attacking those traditional Germanic cultures in 2003 they were pushing beer for Wisconsin's official drink instead of milk. And they didn't stop with Wisconsin, bringing their humorous madness to Florida with their "Got Beer" campaign urging college students to drink beer instead of milk.

The only good thing that radical bunch of fanatics have come up with are all the ads with naked babes who "would rather wear nothing than fur."

(Shhhh! Don't let PETA know that Fox Mulder offs a couple of big toothy dogs that were trying to kill him in X-Files.)

[AshleysDad]

NO! That just makes baby Jesus cry! :(

Kick a CAT and an angel gets its wings! :D



Hey, hey, hey, hey,hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Cats Rule! Dogs are sellouts. Cats make you earn their affection.

[Shockwave]

Also attacking those traditional Germanic cultures in 2003 they were pushing beer for Wisconsin's official drink instead of milk. And they didn't stop with Wisconsin, bringing their humorous madness to Florida with their "Got Beer" campaign urging college students to drink beer instead of milk.



Hahahaha. Thats AWESOME!

Go PETA!:D

[The Postmaster General]

I think the PETA is focusing on the wrong thing. Rather than focus on why Batman beats up the dogs to defend himself, I think PETA would be better served to say that dogs are used for other things than attacking and guarding people. That is still bullshit, but PETA bullshit anyway. They turn more people off by stupid statements like this in the first place.



Exactly. There's actually a real ongoing issue in the world with bad guys training dogs to kill or be killed. It's even to the point where we have celebrities involved in such crimes.

I'm not exactly sure that there has ever been anything close to a problem with people brutalizing animals that are trying to kill them. In fact, there are actual cases of this happening - that guy who poked the sharks eye out, as one. Yet those people are treated like quasi-heroes.

I don't think this has been mentioned, but it is obvious that PETA is just getting their name in the press. They are going after what is currently the most talked about movie character in the world, for doing something hardly described as cruelty to animals, instead of dealing with the actual real life abuse.

Do they have a list of the Top 10 Animal Friendly Athletes? I couldn't find one, but am unsure. Of course that would only show more proof of their pointlessness.

[screamer581]

You know, I support animals rights and am a vegetarian. I believe animals should be treated with kindness and respect, but PETA is a bunch of hypocritical motherfuckers who care only about getting their name in the media. Don't get me wrong, I support animals rights groups, but PETA give the entire movement a bad name. Even other organizations have spoken out about PETA's hypocrisy (they've been known to kill the same animals they claim to protect) and bad tactics.

Batman was not randomly beating some poor defenseless puppy. He was fighting off trained attack dogs and when any dog has its mind set on attack, no peanut butter treat is going to stop it. Get real, PETA.



What she said. God damn PETA gives us bad names. I swear most vegetarians and vegans are not this crazy. We are a gentle and sane people.


P.S. Patrica Heaton sucks.

[KenSPT]

P.S. Patrica Heaton sucks.

Completely disagree; but regardless, she's fun to look at in a MILF sort of way ...

[The Postmaster General]

P.S. Patrica Heaton sucks.


Way to fuel the fantasy...

[LordSimen]

Oh shit, fake violence pissed someone off. What a shocker.

Peta needs to learn the difference between animal abuse and fake animal abuse. Maybe then it'd learn to keep it's fucking mouth shut.

[thedudeman69]

What she said. God damn PETA gives us bad names. I swear most vegetarians and vegans are not this crazy. We are a gentle and sane people.


P.S. Patrica Heaton sucks.

Yes You are

[PreySlayDisplay]

Wow, they really have a top 10 list of animal friendly superheroes. I Googled that shit. They do realize they aren't real, right?

[Shockwave]

Wow, they really have a top 10 list of animal friendly superheroes. I Googled that shit. They do realize they aren't real, right?

If i was Nolan id so have Batman beating the shit out of Man-bat in the next movie.

See what they think of that.:D

[screamer581]

Yes You are



Thanks!


And Heaton does nothing for me. If we are talking about MILFS, the first and last answer is always Mary Louise Parker. I'll find a pic later.

[KenSPT]

Thanks!


And Heaton does nothing for me. If we are talking about MILFS, the first and last answer is always Mary Louise Parker. I'll find a pic later.

I go with Heaton first, and then a close second would be Lauren Graham ...

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6559/laurentca03ou2.jpg

[screamer581]

I go with Heaton first, and then a close second would be Lauren Graham ...

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6559/laurentca03ou2.jpg



Yum, Lauren Graham.

[rob the many]

wow where oh where are the mods to delete this stupid thread.

[AshleysDad]

wow where oh where are the mods to delete this stupid thread.

We are all grateful you are not a mod and get to decide for everyone.

[bigred760]

We are all grateful you are not a mod and get to decide for everyone.

He's got a point though . . . the thread's gone from a discussion on animal cruelty and The Dark Knight to showing pics of who schmoes think are MILFs.

[AshleysDad]

Some people are silly like that and that is why I love America. Plus, you can never have enough pics of MILFs. Like all threads after a while they die off. No need to start deleting things.

[screamer581]

He's got a point though . . . the thread's gone from a discussion on animal cruelty and The Dark Knight to showing pics of who schmoes think are MILFs.



Meh, I have seen ten times worse in threads. At least no one is discussing the upcoming election.

[Brendan M.]

I go with Heaton first, and then a close second would be Lauren Graham ...

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6559/laurentca03ou2.jpg

"Fuck me Santa, fuck me Santa, fuck me Santa!"



They also forgot to mention that this isn't the first time Christian Bale killed a dog onscreen. Plus I didn't know Batman used to be an animal friendly superhero after that anti-shark repellent incident.

[Captain Goliath]

Ah, silly PETA. When will you ever stop finding little things to bitch about.
Also, it would be caninephohbic. Or something along those lines.

[Kilar]

I wonder what PETA would have to say about True Lies when Arnold clonks the heads of two dobermans together Three Stooges style in the opening action sequence. I think they were anticipating shit which is why they chopped in a tiny shot of the dogs 'waking up', when really the script probably called for two dead dogs!

[miguel_montes]

^^ Yeah. And what about when movies really use animals?

SPOILERS

Like in "The Godfather", with the horse's head on the bed. That's a real horse's head.
And in "Apocalypse Now", when they chop the head of that cow. That was a real cow.