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Bourne101

07-28-2008, 02:10 PM

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Directed by David Gordon Green

Written by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg

Produced by Judd Apatow

Genre: Comedy

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Tagline: Put this in your pipe and smoke it.

Plot Outline: Lazy stoner Dale Denton has only one reason to visit his equally lazy dealer Saul Silver: to purchase weed, specifically, a rare new strain called Pineapple Express. But when Dale becomes the only witness to a murder by a crooked cop and the city's most dangerous drug lord, he panics and dumps his roach of Pineapple Express at the scene. Dale now has another reason to visit Saul: to find out if the weed is so rare that it can be traced back to him. And it is. As Dale and Saul run for their lives, they quickly discover that they're not suffering from weed-fueled paranoia; incredibly, the bad guys really are hot on their trail and trying to figure out the fastest way to kill them both.

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Starring: James Franco, Seth Rogen, Craig Robinson, James Remar, Joe Lo Truglio, Arthur Napiontek, Danny McBride.

Rated R for pervasive language, drug use, sexual references and violence.

Runtime: 111 minutes

My most anticipated film of the summer (yes, even more so than The Dark Knight, although I don't expect this to be as good) has finally arrived. I simply cannot fucking wait to see this.

MadsenOMC

07-28-2008, 02:14 PM

David Gordon Green is one of my favorite directors. All the Real Girls is one of my favorite movies. I can't wait to see how he does in Apatow World. By the way, though ATRG is not a comedy, Danny McBride gives an incredibly hilarious performance that proves how talented he is.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 02:16 PM

Madsen, just out of curiosity, what did you rate Knocked Up and Superbad?

fooknasty

07-28-2008, 02:19 PM

This looks hilarious. At this point, Seth Rogen can do no wrong.

echo_bravo

07-28-2008, 02:20 PM

Looks great!

Although the reviews I have read for it have been mixed so far. But what do you expect from a stoner comedy.

MadsenOMC

07-28-2008, 02:21 PM

Madsen, just out of curiosity, what did you rate Knocked Up and Superbad?

I think I originally gave them both 8/10. Since then I have seen both numerous times (thanks to HBO and Starz). I'd probably still rate them the same. They're definitely flawed but they hold up pretty well and make me laugh consistently.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 02:22 PM

This looks hilarious. At this point, Seth Rogen can do no wrong.

You are right there my friend. Not only is he a funny guy who can act and deliver funny lines brilliantly, but he's also a pretty damn good writer.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 02:29 PM

Looks great!

Although the reviews I have read for it have been mixed so far. But what do you expect from a stoner comedy.

Really? I have read a few reviews, with only one being negative (which still had many positive things to say) and the positive being quite positive. If you could post links to the reviews that you've read, that would be great.

Even though it is a stoner comedy, I really hope it gets great reviews like Superbad and Knocked Up.

Preston_79

07-28-2008, 02:40 PM

I hope this flick takes stoner comedy's to a new level of awesome.

Cop No. 633

07-28-2008, 02:45 PM

This thread is waaay too early. ;)

But I might be checking this out Friday at a sneak preview. I'll post a review if I do get to go. And yes, I will be high.

BanksIsDaFuture

07-28-2008, 02:57 PM

I've seen about half of this...and it was pretty great.

Seth Rogen and Franco have chemistry outta this world, the whole part of them lost in the woods is fucking hiliarious.

SpikeDurden

07-28-2008, 03:38 PM

I'm literally salivating to see this. I feel like I've been waiting for this forever, longer than even Wall-E or The Dark Knight, both of which delivered.

I have very, very high hopes for this film, and I think it's going to be an instant comedy classic. It just looks and sounds too fucking awesome.

mutesaint

07-28-2008, 03:39 PM

This thread is waaay too early. ;)

But I might be checking this out Friday at a sneak preview. I'll post a review if I do get to go. And yes, I will be high.

Im pretty sure that its only about 2 or 3 days to early actually.

SpikeDurden

07-28-2008, 03:39 PM

Im pretty sure that its only about 2 or 3 days to early actually.

Yeah, only 2 days as it opens on Wednesday the 6th.

Mr.HyDe807

07-28-2008, 04:06 PM

Probably my 2nd most anticipated film of the summer!

Cant wait, Apatow has yet to disappoint!

MadsenOMC

07-28-2008, 04:15 PM

Cant wait, Apatow has yet to disappoint!

Even as a producer or co-writer?

Mr.HyDe807

07-28-2008, 04:18 PM

Even as a producer or co-writer?

Dude, Heavyweights was the shit, you don't even know!:p;)

What I've seen that has been produce by him recently I've really enjoyed. Granted, some of the stuff i have no interest in seeing (Drillbit Taylor and Zohan), but i'm just going along the track record of the stuff i saw and enjoyed.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 04:19 PM

As a producer (not executive) or co-writer his only disappointments have been Drillbit Taylor, and Fun With Dick and Jane. Even back to his early days, Heavy Weights was a brilliant kids film which he wrote.

xseanymacx

07-28-2008, 04:47 PM

I will be blazed and amazed in this theatre:cool:

Cannot fucking wait!

Moviefan1234

07-28-2008, 05:07 PM

This doesn't look good at all. Rogen hasn't been funny since FREAKS AND GEEKS.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 05:20 PM

This doesn't look good at all. Rogen hasn't been funny since FREAKS AND GEEKS.

So you didn't enjoy The 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up, or Superbad? Or you just didn't find Seth Rogen funny in any of those. I found the trailer to be pretty damn hilarious myself, and Franco is totally going to own this role.

But, to each his own of course.

Moviefan1234

07-28-2008, 05:24 PM

So you didn't enjoy The 40 Year Old Virgin, Knocked Up, or Superbad?

Not one bit. They aren't good films.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 05:26 PM

Not one bit. They aren't good films.

Well, I beg to differ, but to each his own.

RicochetShaw

07-28-2008, 05:30 PM

I'm not an Apatow nut or anything, but I really enjoyed Superbad and Knocked Up. The 40 Year Old Virgin was a pleasant surprise, as I expected absolutely nothing from it. I'm looking forward to this, as the TV spots and trailer have been solid so far. I dig MIA's song, and the "thug life" bit gets me every time.

a7xfan

07-28-2008, 05:32 PM

this looks awesome, sseth rogan and jud apatow are fucking awesome.

40 year old virgin 10/10
knocked up 9/10
superbad 9/10

JCPhoenix

07-28-2008, 05:33 PM

This is my most anticipated movie this year (like Bourne101, over Dark Knight :p)...I am so excited for this right now though I won't be able to watch it until probably Saturday after it comes out since I'm away on some work-related stuff before then. I'm sure it'll be worth the wait though :D...I really dig David Gordon Green's work overall and his pairing up with the Apatow crowd to make a stoner-action-comedy is just too genius sounding. This is the second of two stoner comedies with indie directors that I was looking forward to for the past year or two (the other was Smiley Face with Greg Arraki but that was a bit of a disappointment in the second half - first half was gold though) so hopefully this one doesn't miss.

Cop No. 633

07-28-2008, 05:41 PM

Im pretty sure that its only about 2 or 3 days to early actually.

I was being facetious. Bourne101 got into it with Scarfather over the Dark Knight thread... it was quite amusing since he was adamant over it being too early, so I was just kidding around with this one. They need to make a special wink emoticon that's specifically meant for facetious posts, which is funny since I just made a rant about an emoticon.

Bourne101

07-28-2008, 05:51 PM

I was being facetious. Bourne101 got into it with Scarfather over the Dark Knight thread... it was quite amusing since he was adamant over it being too early, so I was just kidding around with this one. They need to make a special wink emoticon that's specifically meant for facetious posts, which is funny since I just made a rant about an emoticon.

Yeah, I understood the joke :D. It's all good now though. It was just that I usually open the threads in this section and I was looking forward to making The Dark Knight thread. I have talked to Scarfather since and it's all good. ;) 'Nuff said on that subject.

As for Pineapple Express, a few more very positive reviews have come in today. I expect more will start rolling in soon as there have just been two big screenings recently.

athf1980

07-28-2008, 06:17 PM

this movie looks to be really funny.

Double-Oh-Zero

07-28-2008, 06:29 PM

After TDK, this is my second most anticipated movie of the summer. I'm not usually into stoner flicks, but the red band trailer sold me the second "Paper Planes" kicked in. And whilst I dig Rogen and Apatow, I'm more excited to see Franco as Saul (and the fight scene he has with Rosie Perez).

And if Brad Pitt made a cameo as Floyd, it would be reason enough to give the film the Best Picture Oscar.

fooknasty

07-28-2008, 08:20 PM

40-Year-Old Virgin and Knocked Up are amazing comedies. They are two of my favorite comedies, and movies of this decade.

I appreciate what Superbad was, which was a movie that showed the realistic, current teenage lifestyle. A step down from the two movies directed by Apatow, but very good none the less.

This looks solid. Franco looks hilarious, and Rogen as usual. Considering this was one of the movies that Rogen had written when he was younger (like Superbad), and it stars Rogen has the lead character, I will see this with high hopes.

rilocay

07-29-2008, 01:48 AM

Totally checking this out opening weekend. The tv spot came on again the other night and i completely lost it to the leg in the window bit (again). Overall i dont know how it'll compare to other Apatow produced stuff, but Franco will rule. Debating weather to check this out with a bit of gunje before it aswel..lol.

Walter Sobchak

07-29-2008, 02:25 AM

I think I'll pass out a few joints of some Crippler when the lights dim and the movie begins. Make it the best movie experience of the year. Yeeya.

rilocay

07-29-2008, 02:51 AM

I also had no idea that this film's director David Gordon Green, is the guy behind the Suspiria remake...should be interesting.

SpikeDurden

07-29-2008, 03:51 AM

Okay so it was a very lucky day for me. I was thinking a lot about this movie earlier and how I couldn't wait to see it any longer, and I went to the Facebook page to see if there were any updates... and I noticed that it said LA area fans here are upcoming free screenings. And there just happened to be one tonight, at 7:30pm, at a theatre I know well and go to all the time.

So my friend and I get there 90 minutes early and we wait, but we're there early enough to get in...

And this movie just fucking ROCKED. It's absolute gold, just hilarious from beginning to end with a completely brilliant 3rd act. This is the stuff of legends, it will be remembered for years and years to come, and it's just a true comedy classic. Rogen, Franco, and McBride are an amazing trio, each one bringing their own comedy stylings to the table, and Rogen and Goldberg's script is witty, sharp, observational, and just plain awesome.

Thanks to David Gordon Green for TRULY branching out as a filmmaker and directing a new comedy classic. I can't wait to see this again and pay for it.

9/10

KenSPT

07-29-2008, 07:39 AM

I've been excited about this for a while, so I'm definitely seeing it opening weekend ...

ilovemovies

07-29-2008, 09:58 AM

I usually HATE stoner comedies but I have to say this one actually looks pretty funny.

I've only read one review and that was James Berardinelli and he liked it, giving it 3 stars.

MoovEDude

07-29-2008, 05:42 PM

Not one bit. They aren't good films.

:eek:

:p

mutesaint

07-29-2008, 07:29 PM

thedudeman69

07-30-2008, 11:38 PM

Man, am I the only one that finds Virgin grows weaker with each re watch.

Captain Goliath

07-31-2008, 01:04 PM

I can only hope my small-town theatre shows this opening night...

blankpage

07-31-2008, 01:22 PM

Man, am I the only one that finds Virgin grows weaker with each re watch.

Personally, while it doesn't have the same zing after watching it the first couple times, I still find new parts that crack me up...or something else I appreciate. I love it more and more.

As for PE, definitely one of my most anticipated of the year. I seriously can't wait. I'm also addicted to that M.I.A. song "Paper Planes" that's in the trailer. Can't get enough of it.

Mr.HyDe807

07-31-2008, 02:46 PM

Man, am I the only one that finds Virgin grows weaker with each re watch.

I agree.....but only because my friends constantly quote the damn movie every single time. :mad:

Yeah...cant wait for this!

thedudeman69

07-31-2008, 02:49 PM

This opens on a Wed, that just raises it's box office potential even more as it's going up against a crappy sequel to a crappy chick flick.

project 86

07-31-2008, 02:56 PM

just watched restricted PE clip and it just makes me want to see it even more this scene is so funny :

http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=908&item=7

Lemmywinks

07-31-2008, 03:19 PM

I saw this 2 weeks ago in an advance screening. To be honest, I thought Step Brothers was funnier. Plotwise, Pineapple Express is better and it's a different type of comedy, but I just laughed more during step brothers. After seeing the two Harold and Kumar movies, this movie just seemed.....a little boring. Yes, I was bored. The beginning set in the 1950's is hilarious and the ending was pretty good, but everything in between was just "meh" for me. It wasn't bad, it just wasn't the great laugh-fest I was expecting. James Franco was great, as was his dealer friend. Seth Rogen is.....well he's Seth Rogen. He pretty much plays the same type of character from Kocked Up. There are some good jokes with him and his girlfriend, and there are some really funny moments, but in the end there just weren't enough.

a7xfan

07-31-2008, 03:26 PM

Personally, while it doesn't have the same zing after watching it the first couple times, I still find new parts that crack me up...or something else I appreciate. I love it more and more.

my thoughts aswell

BakeTheMooCow

08-01-2008, 11:39 AM

I swear, the one time I visited AICN in maybe 4 or 5 months, I saw a link for a contest to go to a screening to this movie in Chicago and I got in. Fucking awesome. The screening is on Monday, so I will report on it.

For what it's worth, I love David Gordon Green's work (although Snow Angels wasn't great), and Judd Apatow is hit and miss for me. I'm mostly excited for James Franco and Gary Cole. And I hope "Paper Planes" is actually used in the film.

SpikeDurden

08-01-2008, 01:12 PM

TheJadedGamer

08-02-2008, 04:06 PM

This is my most anticapted movie of the summer, and I cannot wait until the 6th to see this baby.

rilocay

08-03-2008, 11:15 PM

LMFAO at the Joblo charicature on the front page. Best one i've seen in ages, awesome stuff.

Raimo69

08-04-2008, 12:08 AM

LMFAO at the Joblo charicature on the front page. Best one i've seen in ages, awesome stuff.

It is.

Only a couple days till this movie comes out. Im seeing at midnight and it will be fun

sbunn10

08-04-2008, 12:18 AM

I can't wait to see this.. Ill agree wholeheartedly with most others on this thread about Knocked up and Superbad. They were great, and have set the bar high.. I hope I'm not dissapointed.

mutesaint

08-04-2008, 09:51 AM

echo_bravo

08-04-2008, 10:37 AM

My only worry for this film is that some scenes may go on too long and the movie as a whole might drag out too long. Apatow/Rogen films tend to do that.

But I am still lookin forward to it since I am a stoner.:cool:

KenSPT

08-04-2008, 11:08 AM

I read this script in January and have been psyched about the flick since then.

My smoking tendencies aside, the script flowed so well and had me interested page to page. If that same excitement and entertainment carries over to the screen, this is going to be a great flick.

There is yet to be a Rogen/Apatow flick I have not enjoyed.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 01:52 PM

There has been a TV spot on for a week or so, with quotes from a raving Peter Travers. I can't seem to find the review online though. Hmm...

fooknasty

08-04-2008, 04:12 PM

What is up with all of these negative reviews? This movie looks classic.

Lindsey

08-04-2008, 04:49 PM

But I am still lookin forward to it since I am a stoner.:cool:

Amen. :cool:

Pineapple Express has been one of my most anticipated movies of the year. The previews are beyond hilarious, and the cast is golden. Screw the negative reviews! I know its going to be great!

CyclicNightmare

08-04-2008, 05:07 PM

It's always interesting to me the films which people choose to ignore the negative reviews.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:05 PM

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:09 PM

In this case Pineapple Express is a comedy, probably the most subjective genre there is. I've read some of the negative reviews. Many complain of it being too vulgar, violent. Some have said that the dialogue talks about irrelevant things (what comedy doesn't?). Some have said that you need to be high to enjoy it.

Well, first of all, it's subjective, so even if the reviews are 50/50 chances are in this case that if you like stoner comedies, you'll like Pineapple Express. Too vulgar? Fuck you. Too violent? Fuck you. Dialogue talking about irrelevant things? It's called conversations. And I've seen plenty of stoner flicks without being high and I often enjoy them.

'Nuff said.

Holy shit not everyone loves Pineapple Express??!! Alert the media! How dare anyone not love this movie? Who the fuck do they think they are? What gives someone the right to not love every single movie Judd Apatow and/or Seth Rogen is involved in? How dare someone think for themselves and express an opinion? What is the world coming to?

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:23 PM

Holy shit not everyone loves Pineapple Express??!! Alert the media! How dare anyone not love this movie? Who the fuck do they think they are? What gives someone the right to not love every single movie Judd Apatow and/or Seth Rogen is involved in? How dare someone think for themselves and express an opinion? What is the world coming to?

I think you missed the part when I said that comedy was a subjective genre. Obviously not everyone is going to like it. I was just giving my side of the subjectivity.

People are wondering why some people brush off the negative reviews. I was simply explaining why people on my side of the subjectivity are ignoring the negative reviews.

CyclicNightmare

08-04-2008, 06:29 PM

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:31 PM

but I don't remember anyone posting on the subjectivity of comedy in the Love Guru thread.

That's because no one was interested in The Love Guru. There was no one on its side of the subjectivity.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:32 PM

I'm not saying the reviews are as bad, but I don't remember anyone posting on the subjectivity of comedy in the Love Guru thread. It's amazes me that Rogen/Apatow seem to get a free pass with people. Especially Apatow, who actually has a pretty hit or miss track record.

Excellent point.

People are getting worked up about negative reviews of a movie they have not even seen. It is silly. If you want to see it, see it. But relax. There's no point getting all bent out of shape just because it's not at 100% at RT.

Bourne, we both know you love Pineapple Express. Seeing it is just a formality.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:34 PM

It's amazes me that Rogen/Apatow seem to get a free pass with people.

Maybe because they're responsible for some of the funniest films in years?

Knocked Up
The 40 Year Old Virgin
Superbad
Step Brothers
Anchorman
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Walk Hard

It's absolutely no wonder why they get a free pass from people.

sd71

08-04-2008, 06:34 PM

im amped for this prolly go drive in steez get high maybe catch a double show of this and step brothers

havent seen that shit yet i still have a dark night hangover

and no offense bourne101 but walk hard was terrible like all modern spoof movies

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:35 PM

Bourne, we both know you love Pineapple Express. Seeing it is just a formality.

False statement.

If I do not enjoy Pineapple Express I will let it be known. But the chances are pretty damn good that I will enjoy it when it looks like one of the funniest films in years, and the people involved have been involved in some of the funniest films of the decade.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:35 PM

Maybe because they're responsible for some of the funniest films in years?

Knocked Up
The 40 Year Old Virgin
Superbad
Step Brothers
Anchorman
Forgetting Sarah Marshall
Walk Hard

It's absolutely no wonder why they get a free pass from people.

Wait, isn't comedy subjective? Guess what? Not everyone believes those are "the funniest films in years." Some people don't even like all of those movies. Imagine that.

Mr.HyDe807

08-04-2008, 06:37 PM

Wait, isn't comedy subjective? Guess what? Not everyone believes those are "the funniest films in years." Some people don't even like all of those movies. Imagine that.

Perhaps he was referring to his opinion Madsen?

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:37 PM

Wait, isn't comedy subjective? Guess what? Not everyone believes those are "the funniest films in years." Some people don't even like all of those movies. Imagine that.

Well sure. But from a majority standpoint, those are some of the funniest films in years.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:38 PM

Well sure. But from a majority standpoint, those are some of the funniest films in years.

Did you conduct a survey?

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:39 PM

Perhaps he was referring to his opinion Madsen?

Gee, really? Thanks for the input.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:39 PM

If I do not enjoy Pineapple Express I will let it be known. But the chances are pretty damn good that I will enjoy it when it looks like one of the funniest films in years, and the people involved have been involved in some of the funniest films of the decade.

Like I said, we both know you love Pineapple Express. Not once have I ever seen you not love a movie you weren't having orgasms about prior to seeing it.

CyclicNightmare

08-04-2008, 06:41 PM

I agree with Mad. That list of movies just contradicts your spiel on subjectivity.

LOL @ orgasms comment.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:44 PM

Did you conduct a survey?

Hmm... let's see:

Knocked Up- 91% RT, 97% Top Critic RT, 88% RT Community
The 40 Year Old Virgin- 84% RT, 85% Top Critic RT, 88% RT Community
Superbad- 87% RT, 86% Top Critic RT, 81% RT Community
Step Brothers- 50% RT, 45% Top Critic RT, 75% RT Community
Anchorman- 64% RT, 70% Top Critic RT, 80% RT Community
Forgetting Sarah Marshall- 85% RT, 88% Top Critic RT, 87% RT Community
Walk Hard- 75% RT, 72% Top Critic RT, 72% RT Community

Hmm... I think those statistics speak for themselves.

CyclicNightmare

08-04-2008, 06:45 PM

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:45 PM

Hmm... let's see:

Knocked Up- 91% RT, 97% Top Critic RT, 88% RT Community
The 40 Year Old Virgin- 84% RT, 85% Top Critic RT, 88% RT Community
Superbad- 87% RT, 86% Top Critic RT, 81% RT Community
Step Brothers- 50% RT, 45% Top Critic RT, 75% RT Community
Anchorman- 64% RT, 70% Top Critic RT, 80% RT Community
Forgetting Sarah Marshall- 85% RT, 88% Top Critic RT, 87% RT Community
Walk Hard- 75% RT, 72% Top Critic RT, 72% RT Community

Hmm... I think those statistics speak for themselves.

Yeah, they do. They prove absolutely nothing.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:48 PM

Like I said, we both know you love Pineapple Express. Not once have I ever seen you not love a movie you weren't having orgasms about prior to seeing it.

So what? Should I start hating movies now that I'm looking forward to? I'd rather that the movies I look forward to be good, than be shit just so I can go on rant with an insanely negative attitude.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:50 PM

You guys are completely missing the point. The point isn't that I'm condemning the negative reviews, I'm simply not going to listen to the negative reviews that complain about things that I want to be in the movie.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:51 PM

Yeah, they do. They prove absolutely nothing.

Yes, they do. They prove that a large majority of people (save for maybe Step Brothers) found those movies to be very good. Maybe subjectivity even got the best of some critics and viewers. Shows that Apatow and Rogen have been involved in many praised films. And if I enjoy all of those films, why would I not look forward to Pineapple Express? Why would I think it wasn't going to be good? Why would I let a few negative reviews which complain about things that I want in film get in the way?

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:54 PM

Yes, they do. They prove that a large majority of people (save for maybe Step Brothers) found those movies to be very good. Maybe subjectivity even got the best of some critics and viewers. Shows that Apatow and Rogen have been involved in many praised films. And if I enjoy all of those films, why would I not look forward to Pineapple Express? Why would I think it wasn't going to be good? Why would I let a few negative reviews which complain about things that I want in film get in the way?

You can look forward to it all you want. It looks funny. But you seem to get so defensive as soon as negative reviews crop up, as if you can't believe that anyone would dare not love an Apatow/Rogen movie.

Also, it's more than a few negative reviews. Only 53% at RT last I checked. Just for the record.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 06:56 PM

It's just hard for me to take you seriously sometimes Bourne, because you are so predictable. You decide to love a movie and you stick to it, no matter what, and then you get so defensive if it gets negative reviews, even when you haven't even seen it. I just think that's silly. But hey, whatever trips your trigger man.

So you think I say I like movies which I hate? What would be the point in that? I just tend to look forward to movies which I have a good feeling that I will enjoy. I'm not being defensive about the negative reviews to Pineapple Express (I'm merely saying why I am brushing them off), and I'm not that often defensive about films that I enjoy getting negative reviews. Occasionally, but even then just to show why I disagree with the negative reviews.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 06:56 PM

So what? Should I start hating movies now that I'm looking forward to? I'd rather that the movies I look forward to be good, than be shit just so I can go on rant with an insanely negative attitude.

Hey I'm not losing any sleep over it. And like I said, I'm a huge Green fan and I think this movie looks funny.

It's just hard for me to take you seriously sometimes Bourne, because you are so predictable. You decide to love a movie and you stick to it, no matter what, and then you get so defensive if it gets negative reviews, even when you haven't even seen it. I just think that's silly. But hey, whatever trips your trigger man.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 07:02 PM

So you think I say I like movies which I hate?

No.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 07:02 PM

You can look forward to it all you want. It looks funny. But you seem to get so defensive as soon as negative reviews crop up, as if you can't believe that anyone would dare not love an Apatow/Rogen movie.

Also, it's more than a few negative reviews. Only 53% at RT last I checked. Just for the record.

Wrong again. I can see why people wouldn't like these movies. It's a subjective genre. I'm simply saying that I'm not going to pay attention to negative reviews which complain about things which I want to be in the movie, such as vulgarity, violence etc.

And I've read all 7 of those negative reviews. Again, most of which complain about things which I want to be in the movie.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 07:03 PM

It's a subjective genre.

I'm not sure I buy that you really believe that.

Bourne101

08-04-2008, 07:09 PM

I'm not sure I buy that you really believe that.

I do. I realize that some people like films like Meet the Spartans, Epic Movie etc. I realize that some people like more mature comedies such as Sideways and Death at a Funeral. I don't like those films, but many people do. I realize that people do. I've heard teens rave about films like Meet the Spartans and Epic Movie, while I've heard critics rave about Sideways and Death at a Funeral. I don't like any of them. They're just two sides of the subjectivity of the comedy genre. I'm more into vulgar films, but vulgar films with good and well-written dialogue. I don't like when vulgarity is forced like in such films as Postal and Strange Wilderness. I like when it is used creatively, like in Superbad and Knocked Up.

But that's just my side of the subjectivity. I realize that some people don't like those films, and realize that they like some of the films that I don't like.

Mr.HyDe807

08-04-2008, 07:14 PM

Gee, really? Thanks for the input.

Wow. Way not to be an asshole. The guy's is excited for the movie, he stated the reasons why hes excited, how he isn't gonna let the negative hype affect him, and your acting like he's the be all end all opinion.

Then again, you love to get into a row with him, so i digress.

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 07:14 PM

Wow. Way not to be an asshole. The guy's is excited for the movie, he stated the reasons why hes excited, how he isn't gonna let the negative hype affect him, and your acting like he's the be all end all opinion.

Then again, you love to get into a row with him, so i digress.

I do enjoy getting into it with Bourne, for various reasons. And he can handle himself. We've gotten into it before and we'll get into it again. I can't speak for him, but I enjoy our debates. It's part of the reason I come here. I'm not sure why that should bother you so much.

If you think I'm being an asshole, fine. I could not possibly care less. I know what he's doing and I have stated my feelings on the matter. Bourne has stated his.

Mr.HyDe807

08-04-2008, 07:23 PM

I do enjoy getting into it with Bourne, for various reasons. And he can handle himself. We've gotten into it before and we'll get into it again. I can't speak for him, but I enjoy our debates. It's part of the reason I come here. I'm not sure why that should bother you so much.

If you think I'm being an asshole, fine. I could not possibly care less. I know what he's doing and I have stated my feelings on the matter. Bourne has stated his.

I know amigo, and i take back that the asshole remark, it just seem like your ridding on his words and i just made a comment on the current situation. Whatever, its over. I hate starting drama.

Anyways, back on topic, like i said i have been loving most of apatow flicks these past years and i cant wait for this. Unfortunately, i will probably miss out the midnight showing, but i will defintiely try to catch an afternoon showing!:cool:

xseanymacx

08-04-2008, 09:21 PM

So what's everyone going to smoke for this?

;)

I plan on going with the classic, but goodie, J on the way to the theater.

Sigur509

08-04-2008, 09:31 PM

2 joints or 1 blunt on the way to the theater. We've not decided yet.

Either way, we'll be high...

MadsenOMC

08-04-2008, 09:32 PM

Weed is for pussies. First I am going to smoke a whole lot of crack. Then I'm going to snort at least 10 lines of coke. I'll follow that with a little heroin. Next I'll take a few shrooms. Then it's some acid. Finally, I'll pop a few pills in the theater bathroom right before the movie starts. Drugs are the coolest man.

dellamorte dellamore

08-04-2008, 10:36 PM

lol , why stop there ? what are you a lightweight or something ?

i have a feeling that a person's general penchant for wacky weed will affect their enjoyment or maybe outright rejection of this film .

is there anything to find humor in if you don't care to toke up ? is Rogen actually funny , i think he's a bargain basement comedian in a basement that has flooded out . peter parker's best friend , the new goblin , well , he's about as lifeless as a slug with arthritis . he couldn't even hold his own with maguire assisting him and multimillion dollar effects , now all of a sudden he's a wellspring of comedy because he's in an Apatow flick ?

Mr.HyDe807

08-04-2008, 10:38 PM

I don't smoke....laughter is my antidrug!:cool:

NuclearMisfit

08-04-2008, 10:54 PM

I just got back from watching a sneak peak and I have to say this is probably the best Apatow films out there. The two leads are perfect, funny, witty and it made me wonder what took Rogen and Franco from working together earlier after Freaks and Geeks. Its almost perfect. I think I noticed the one part in the movie that is mentioned in the negative review about the diologue being irrevelent, but its only one tiny time. Its a pretty awesome buddy comedy! Its what Harold and Kumar should have been!

The action scenes are pretty well spread through out the entire movie and are pretty good with a couple placed moments of gore and mayhem. Not enough to elevate Rogen or Franco to Statham standards but they did a helluva job!

Pineapple Express 9/10
40 Year old virgin 9/10
Knocked Up 8/10
Superbad 6/10

dellamorte dellamore

08-04-2008, 10:57 PM

if this is his best , considering the competition , that would make it average .

sbunn10

08-04-2008, 11:08 PM

brodeurnumber1

08-04-2008, 11:21 PM

if this is his best , considering the competition , that would make it average .

Didn't you not see the previous ones and just decided to trash them without seeing them?

BanksIsDaFuture

08-04-2008, 11:37 PM

Cop No. 633

08-04-2008, 11:37 PM

thedudeman69

08-04-2008, 11:40 PM

Yeah, well... that's like your opinion, man.

motherfucker stole my line

BakeTheMooCow

08-04-2008, 11:51 PM

I don't get Seth Rogen's appeal as a leading man. I think he's funny in small doses, like in bit parts in Virgin and Superbad, but he's on screen for so much of the running time here that it gets irritating. He's not as bad as Jonah Hill, but I hate that throaty voice of his and the headshake with which he delivers every line.

James Franco and Craig Robinson are this movie. They make every scene they are in interesting just by being there. Danny McBride's "Red" though is inexplicably given a ton of lines and he is rarely funny.

This is another Apatow production that has a weird "improvisational" vibe. I get the same feeling from recent Will Ferrell movies where it's just like - let the actors say the kookiest shit, just random references and absurd analogies, and let's edit this movie around it.

I don't know what David Gordon Green brought to this. If you're looking for the luscious cinematography of George Washington or something, you're dead wrong. And I know - it's a stoner comedy. But it's bland to look at and the action scenes are flat. It's almost played like a Tom & Jerry cartoon at times, where people get smashed in the head with objects that would kill them or in some cases, get shot multiple times - and they survive?

I kinda liked Superbad because I thought whoa, the writers got into the heads of teenage boys really well. But now I know is that that's all they know. What's funny and cool to 16 year old boys is weed, car chases, fight scenes, ninjas and cussing and it's all here. Oh, and one-liners when killing people.

I liked some moments, although I can't remember them too well now. The Odd Couple routine between Franco and Rogen was not it though. Franco is fine, but Rogen is terrible. (And this is another Apatow movie where an ugly guy, Rogen, gets paired up with a hot girl. Wish fulfillment, clearly.) And when the banter and reactionary shots aren't flying, there are people being hit on the head or kicked in the nuts. And you laugh at that just like you laugh at America's Funniest Videos. Doesn't make that a good show or this a good movie.

daddiefatsacks

08-05-2008, 12:47 AM

how is seth rogen ugly? i mean hes not your prototypical hot leading male...but hes a normal looking dude, why cant he get hot chicks?

jolanar

08-05-2008, 01:05 AM

This may have been asked already but does anyone know the music from the trailer? Talk about great a trailer song.

thedudeman69

08-05-2008, 01:13 AM

This may have been asked already but does anyone know the music from the trailer? Talk about great a trailer song.

Paper Planes by MIA

tbone

08-05-2008, 01:46 AM

how is seth rogen ugly? i mean hes not your prototypical hot leading male...but hes a normal looking dude, why cant he get hot chicks?

well in the 40 year old virgin hes self proclaimed as being ugly as fuck

daddiefatsacks

08-05-2008, 02:33 AM

yeah but i just dont get how a guy looks has anything to do with getting girls these days....like i dont understand the logic in 'hes ugly so he cant have a hot girl' women don't even give a shit about looks

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 08:20 AM

Yeah, well... that's like your opinion, man.

I hope you don't think I was serious.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 09:50 AM

Berardinelli, Travers, and Ebert all loved it.

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 10:11 AM

Berardinelli, Travers, and Ebert all loved it.

The Holy Triumvirate is never wrong!

ilovemovies

08-05-2008, 10:19 AM

I like Berardinelli a lot. He's my favorite internet critic by far. And is almost up there Ebert & Roeper. However, just to let you know he did give Because I Said So 3 stars.

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 10:21 AM

I like Berardinelli a lot. He's my favorite internet critic by far. And is almost up there Ebert & Roeper. However, just to let you know he did give Because I Said So 3 stars.

I have stopped reading Berardinelli. I found myself strongly disagreeing with him far too often. I don't trust him. Same goes for Travers. He's a quote whore.

ilovemovies

08-05-2008, 10:46 AM

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 10:48 AM

I disagree with sometimes too of course (although I probably agree with him as much as I disagree with him) but I don't care. I love reading his reviews.

I hate his design to his site now though. But I still visit to read his reviews and blogs and stuff.

That's cool. Personally, I didn't find his writing compelling enough to keep reading when I was disagreeing with 75% of his reviews. But that's just me. He's better than Travers though. I'll give him that.

BakeTheMooCow

08-05-2008, 11:34 AM

I just remembered one of the funny moments -- Dale is arguing with his teenage girlfriend on the phone and says (paraphrased): "Next year, you're going to go to college and probably become a lesbian who listens to Gospeed You! Black Emperor."

I laughed because yesterday morning I dropped off two friends to O'Hare who were in town for Lollapalooza, and I listened to GY!BE in the car the whole way.

Anyway, I read in the "What film did you watch today?" thread that QUENTIN called the ending to this movie Adaptation-esque. You know, I had the same thought when watching it, except I thought about how it paled in comparison to that movie.

SPOILERS

There is a scene at the end where they are all sitting at a diner and talking about how cool the car chase was and how it was nice that they learned a lesson and become friends along the way. But somehow it lacked the punch of the self-referential ending to Adaptation. Instead, it seemed like a really clumsy way of calling attention to the nature of the script. And there is none of the emotional impact of a Charlie Kaufman script.

END SPOILERS

Also, I read in an article in the NYTimes that Green said this:

“I think my spin was to try to make it not a cartoon,” he said. “I thought, let’s go far-out and absurd places, but let’s try to play everything as if it’s for real and try to root it in human behavior. When these guys get in fights, they’re not used to fighting, so it hurts, and they’re really sore the next day. To me, it’s funnier that way.”

What? The movie is really cartoonish in the way it depicts violence. People have things happen to them that would make it impossible for them to live and they do live and it is played for laughs. And that's fine, I think. But don't say you were going for realism. That's bullshit.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 12:30 PM

The Holy Triumvirate is never wrong!

Well no, but I have been reading reviews from them for years, and I consider them amongst the best critics. I often disagree with them, but they always give a good insight. If all three of them liked it, that's a pretty damn good sign at least in my case.

chinton

08-05-2008, 12:37 PM

I have a friend who worked in the cutting room of this. He said Green is one of the nicest guys he's ever met.

chinton

08-05-2008, 12:39 PM

Oh and I like Bernalldi even though I'm sad that he liked Because I Said So(ugh) and hated Baghead(boo).

echo_bravo

08-05-2008, 02:40 PM

He said Green is one of the nicest guys he's ever met.

Probably cause he is stoned all the time.:cool:

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 04:49 PM

And oh how deceiving those early review percentages can be. It's now at 70% and growing rapidly.

LOL. Oooh, zing, you got me Bourne.

I just checked. 67%. So much for that rapid growth.

Not that it matters at all. Relax Bourne. I'm sure you'll love it.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 04:50 PM

Only 53% at RT last I checked. Just for the record.

And oh how deceiving those early review percentages can be. It's now at 70% and growing rapidly. Top critic is at 77% and growing.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 04:51 PM

LOL. Oooh, zing, you got me Bourne.

I just checked. 67%. So much for that rapid growth.

Not that it matters at all. Relax Bourne. I'm sure you'll love it.

No actually, it was at 65%, and then two new reviews came in, both positive. Only one has been recorded in the percentage though. :D

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 04:54 PM

No actually, it was at 65%, and then two new reviews came in, both positive. Only one has been recorded in the percentage though. :D

Are you checking every few minutes and counting every review? Bourne, seriously, it could be at 100% or 10% for all I care. Your total obsession about this is a little freaky.

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 05:00 PM

You're the one always saying that a movie's chance of being good is slim if a movie is under the 60% mark.

I always say that? 60%? News to me Bourne. But if you can find the numerous posts where I have stated that, by all means. I certainly don't recall ever saying that.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 05:01 PM

Bourne, seriously, it could be at 100% or 10% for all I care.

Oh don't give me that shit Madsen. :p

You're the one always saying that a movie's chance of being good is slim if a movie is under the 60% mark.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 05:09 PM

I always say that? 60%? News to me Bourne. But if you can find the numerous posts where I have stated that, by all means. I certainly don't recall ever saying that.

You didn't say those words exactly, but I remember on several occasions including the recent The Happening and The Strangers where they were getting reviews anywhere between the 15-50% mark and you said that it wasn't looking good.

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 05:12 PM

You didn't say those words exactly, but I remember on several occasions including the recent The Happening and The Strangers where they were getting reviews anywhere between the 15-50% mark and you said that it wasn't looking good.

Ah, OK, but that is a hell of a lot different than saying "a movie's chance of being good is slim if a movie is under the 60% mark," something I never said.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 05:18 PM

Ah, OK, but that is a hell of a lot different than saying "a movie's chance of being good is slim if a movie is under the 60% mark," something I never said.

Well, what you've said certainly implies that you are skeptical about movies that get a rating lower than 60%. A far cry from "Bourne, seriously, it could be at 100% or 10% for all I care"

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 05:24 PM

Well, what you've said certainly implies that you are skeptical about movies that get a rating lower than 60%. A far cry from "Bourne, seriously, it could be at 100% or 10% for all I care"

Not true, because there is a huge difference. I actually want to see The Pineapple Express. I think it looks good. So I truly could not care less about its RT rating. A 10% rating wouldn't make me not want to see it. I am not skeptical about all movies that have a rating below 60%.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 05:29 PM

Not true, because there is a huge difference. I actually want to see The Pineapple Express. I think it looks good. So I truly could not care less about its RT rating. A 10% rating wouldn't make me not want to see it. I am not skeptical about all movies that have a rating below 60%.

That's cool. I'm not sure I buy that though. If Pineapple Express had a 10% rating right now, you wouldn't be skeptical at all? Hell, it's my most anticipated film of the summer and if it had 10%, I'd be pretty damn skeptical. In the case of it being at 10%, I would maybe start questioning whether the only good parts were in the trailer, maybe the acting was dreadful, maybe the jokes weren't as good as the ones in the trailer etc.

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 05:30 PM

That's cool. I'm not sure I buy that though. If Pineapple Express had a 10% rating right now, you wouldn't be skeptical at all? Hell, it's my most anticipated film of the summer and if it had 10%, I'd be pretty damn skeptical. In the case of it being at 10%, I would maybe start questioning whether the only good parts were in the trailer, maybe the acting was dreadful, maybe the jokes weren't as good as the ones in the trailer etc.

No, I wouldn't be. I love the director, I like the cast a lot and I think it looks good. That's all that matters to me, not its RT rating.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 05:31 PM

No, I wouldn't be. I love the director, I like the cast a lot and I think it looks good. That's all that matters to me, not its RT rating.

:cool:

MadsenOMC

08-05-2008, 05:33 PM

It's different for every movie though. I have no desire to see The Happening, for example, because I think it looks terrible, people I know who saw it hated it, and the RT rating is low. It's a combination. With Pineapple Express, because of my previously mentioned reasons, a low RT wouldn't scare me off.

therealjohng

08-05-2008, 06:02 PM

Hey what's the song that gets played in the trailer? It's pretty cool.

Bourne101

08-05-2008, 06:11 PM

Hey what's the song that gets played in the trailer? It's pretty cool.

Paper Planes by M.I.A. and it is indeed cool. :cool:

BakeTheMooCow

08-05-2008, 06:14 PM

I'm sure he's taking the piss. Too many people have asked that question.

RandalGraves

08-05-2008, 06:51 PM

Goin to the midnight show tonight! cant wait!

therealjohng

08-05-2008, 07:03 PM

I'm sure he's taking the piss. Too many people have asked that question.

Hahahah, yep.

echo_bravo

08-05-2008, 09:42 PM

I do agree with the criticism of having an average joe being with a ridiculously hot female in these films is quite laughable.

The girl that plays Seth Rogen's gf in this is on the current issue of Maxim. There is no way in hell a regular joe pothead can get that kind of trim. It would be much more realistic if they casted a more plain looking girl for the gf role but whatever.

biff_debris

08-05-2008, 10:24 PM

Just got back from an advanced screening -- and this is a very funny movie. Rogen did a great job with the script, its as filled with as many zingers as a Kevin Smith flick. And Franco is walking Comedy Gold. When he says lines like "this pot is so good, I almost feel bad smoking it -- it's like killing a unicorn", he does it with such respect and earnestness that you end up missing the other lines. From laughing at what he said. If I had to sum it up, I'd say it was like Jay and Silent Bob, as scripted by Tarantino. That's a bit extreme, but you'll see what I mean.

And Seth Rogen runs exactly like Fred Flintstone.

darkface

08-06-2008, 12:23 AM

The girl that plays Seth Rogen's gf in this is on the current issue of Maxim. There is no way in hell a regular joe pothead can get that kind of trim. It would be much more realistic if they casted a more plain looking girl for the gf role but whatever.

I'd have to disagree with you here. I've noticed a big difference in this generation of high-schoolers. When I go to the mall now, I don't see the hot chicks with the jocks... Most of the hot chicks are dating either the dirty, grungy potheads, or the Emo kids. Which isn't much different IMO. So to summarize... hot chicks are dating the stupid dirty kids instead of jocks now-a-days.

so sad. :(

BanksIsDaFuture

08-06-2008, 03:48 AM

Too bad the movie wasn't very funny. Action was pretty well-done, but comedy-wise, pretty disappointing.

xseanymacx

08-06-2008, 11:08 AM

I'd have to disagree with you here. I've noticed a big difference in this generation of high-schoolers. When I go to the mall now, I don't see the hot chicks with the jocks... Most of the hot chicks are dating either the dirty, grungy potheads, or the Emo kids. Which isn't much different IMO. So to summarize... hot chicks are dating the stupid dirty kids instead of jocks now-a-days.

so sad. :(

Maybe those types of kids aren't total douches to the girls?

BakeTheMooCow

08-06-2008, 01:58 PM

Great review in the Eye Weekly (http://www.eyeweekly.com/film/onscreen/article/34896):

I’d made my mind up about Pineapple Express long before its final scene: I think it was the bit where a gorgeous blond woman assured Seth Rogen’s character that he was funny and sexy and totally awesome — in a movie co-written by Seth Rogen — that triggered my Bullshit Alarm. But seeing the aforementioned writer-star breakfasting in a diner with co-stars James Franco and Danny McBride, all ostensibly in character, chewing over waffles and the awesome stupidity of their adventures (you know, just like you and your friends totally would after the movie) prompted actual rage.

Obviously, a lot of people won’t have the same reaction to this allegedly affable smugness: Pineapple Express is being sold (and will be embraced) as Superbad on steroids, with stoner twentysomethings (Rogen and Franco, playing potheads on the run from drug dealers) substituted for beer-seeking teenagers, topped off with great, heaping gobs of post-Tarantino slapstick violence.

There’s something sadistic about so much cartoon brutality when the film consistently reminds us how much it hurts. And Pineapple Express’s stupid-movie-isms (car chases, fist fights, shootouts) aren’t deployed satirically. The film is an ecstatic celebration of adolescent crap, devoid of deconstructive finesse or even good action scenes. The stifling atmosphere of arrested development extends also to the underlying Apatowian “bros before hos” attitude: a scene where Rogen’s aforementioned girlfriend blubbers about how much she misses her feckless, shaggy man-child now that he’s on the run is one of the most embarrassing movie moments of the year.

There are other disparaging things to say about Pineapple Express — e.g., that former art-house great-white-hope David Gordon Green isn’t exactly a dab hand at comedy — but what’s the point? It’s nothing the movie doesn’t already know: that last scene is Rogen and Co.’s escape hatch, a master class in the simultaneous having and eating of cake. Forgive me for hoping that they choke.

Bolded some bits because I completely agree with those and the reviewer said it better than the stuff I wrote on the last page.

LordSimen

08-06-2008, 02:03 PM

Maybe those types of kids aren't total douches to the girls?

Exact-o-mundo.

brodeurnumber1

08-06-2008, 02:16 PM

Hell Zach Efron went with Nikki Blonsky in Hairspray and I didn't hear anyone bitching.

MadsenOMC

08-06-2008, 02:26 PM

It's a movie, for one thing. And if I were Rogen I'd write myself a hot girlfriend too.

MadsenOMC

08-06-2008, 02:31 PM

It's a movie?

Well, FUCK ME GENTLY WITH A CHAINSAW. I HAD NO IDEA.

Wow, intelligent and well-thought out response. By some of the posts here it seems that certain people have forgotten the fact that it's a movie. Bitching & moaning that Rogen's girlfriend is hot? Really, that's a huge problem for you?

BakeTheMooCow

08-06-2008, 02:34 PM

It's a movie?

Well, FUCK ME GENTLY WITH A CHAINSAW. I HAD NO IDEA.

BakeTheMooCow

08-06-2008, 02:42 PM

Wow, intelligent and well-thought out response. By some of the posts here it seems that certain people have forgotten the fact that it's a movie. Bitching & moaning that Rogen's girlfriend is hot? Really, that's a huge problem for you?

Well, yeah. It's a problem when it's a trend in every Apatow movie. Let's see the list of women in Apatow movies recently -- Emma Stone. Kristen Bell. Katherine Heigl. Mila Kunis. Now Amber Heard.

The guys? Jonah Hill. Jason Segel. Seth Rogen.

Juvenile, obnoxious, usually alcoholic or stoners, overweight, broke-ass slobs.

There's a scene here where Dale Denton calls up Angie and he apologizes for being mean to her and she breaks down and starts crying -- I want you back! I love you so much! I'm sorry for everything I said!

This high school bombshell is lusting after a pothead loser like Dale, and if it was a once-in-a-while thing, I wouldn't care. But every fucking movie, it's the same old wish fulfillment fantasy bullshit. It annoys me to no end.

brodeurnumber1

08-06-2008, 03:19 PM

Jason Segel is not a bad looking guy in the least, so that should rule out two of those. Plus, Emma Stone never really got with Jonah Hill, she was just hanging out with him at the end.

LordSimen

08-06-2008, 03:37 PM

Well, yeah. It's a problem when it's a trend in every Apatow movie. Let's see the list of women in Apatow movies recently -- Emma Stone. Kristen Bell. Katherine Heigl. Mila Kunis. Now Amber Heard.

The guys? Jonah Hill. Jason Segel. Seth Rogen.

Juvenile, obnoxious, usually alcoholic or stoners, overweight, broke-ass slobs.

There's a scene here where Dale Denton calls up Angie and he apologizes for being mean to her and she breaks down and starts crying -- I want you back! I love you so much! I'm sorry for everything I said!

This high school bombshell is lusting after a pothead loser like Dale, and if it was a once-in-a-while thing, I wouldn't care. But every fucking movie, it's the same old wish fulfillment fantasy bullshit. It annoys me to no end.

In BakeTheCowMoo's world, only hot people should date hot people! Ugly people should date ugly people! Separate, but equal!

daddiefatsacks

08-06-2008, 03:44 PM

what the fuck? this is ridiculous, and really nitpicking...but shallow as fuck. Do you think women only choose rich attractive men? Yeah the bitchy fucking annoying ones do who are self-concious and have no self esteem. The thing these movies do with these so called 'too hot' girls is make them actually human beings and real. REAL women go for REAL men, REAL women dig men who are confident, hilarious and honest, thats all REAL women want.

enough of the sterotypical bullshit

Superplasmatron

08-06-2008, 03:44 PM

I think this film looks great, this and step brothers have me exhited

MadsenOMC

08-06-2008, 04:20 PM

Well, yeah. It's a problem when it's a trend in every Apatow movie. Let's see the list of women in Apatow movies recently -- Emma Stone. Kristen Bell. Katherine Heigl. Mila Kunis. Now Amber Heard.

The guys? Jonah Hill. Jason Segel. Seth Rogen.

Juvenile, obnoxious, usually alcoholic or stoners, overweight, broke-ass slobs.

There's a scene here where Dale Denton calls up Angie and he apologizes for being mean to her and she breaks down and starts crying -- I want you back! I love you so much! I'm sorry for everything I said!

This high school bombshell is lusting after a pothead loser like Dale, and if it was a once-in-a-while thing, I wouldn't care. But every fucking movie, it's the same old wish fulfillment fantasy bullshit. It annoys me to no end.

So what? It does happen in real life, believe it or not, and I just don't think it's as big of a deal as you're making it out to be. If you don't think their character would have a chance with these women, that's one thing, but it shouldn't be based on their looks. I see guys who look like Rogen with girls who look like Amber Heard all the time in the city. Just last night on the train I saw a couple of dopey looking dudes with very hot females who were clearly their girlfriends.

SkyNet

08-06-2008, 06:38 PM

Lost in Space

08-06-2008, 07:06 PM

just saw it... its pretty good... def entertaining.. BUT it certainly isnt as comical as Superbad or Knocked Up. To judge it as its own flick, i was entertained, and thats all i can ask for. But stacked against other comedies like Superbad, Knocked Up & Step Brothers it doesnt quite live up!

Interesting. I liked it more than superbad, Knocked up & Step Brothers. Two of those didn't have enough Rogan for me, Knocked Up was good, just not AS good. Pineapple Express managed to keep me laughing the ENTIRE MOVIE, which i gaurentee you is rare. The fact that I saw it alone and this is still true is a major statement, as friends tend to make a movie 10x more funny.

9/10

the saw is family

08-06-2008, 08:09 PM

Well, yeah. It's a problem when it's a trend in every Apatow movie. Let's see the list of women in Apatow movies recently -- Emma Stone. Kristen Bell. Katherine Heigl. Mila Kunis. Now Amber Heard.

The guys? Jonah Hill. Jason Segel. Seth Rogen.

Juvenile, obnoxious, usually alcoholic or stoners, overweight, broke-ass slobs.

There's a scene here where Dale Denton calls up Angie and he apologizes for being mean to her and she breaks down and starts crying -- I want you back! I love you so much! I'm sorry for everything I said!

This high school bombshell is lusting after a pothead loser like Dale, and if it was a once-in-a-while thing, I wouldn't care. But every fucking movie, it's the same old wish fulfillment fantasy bullshit. It annoys me to no end.

this really says a lot about you as a person. you must think that all conventionally beautiful women are bitches who only want conventionally beautiful men, who have excellent jobs, don't drink or get high ever, and are never juvenile. there are plenty and i mean plenty of beautiful women who are satisfied with the average guy, wake up!!

chasingbanky

08-06-2008, 09:00 PM

This thread just reminded me why I stay away from the CMT forum...

Bourne101

08-06-2008, 09:05 PM

Of course, my most anticipated film of the summer just had to be sold out on opening night. :mad:

Seeing it tomorrow night.

ilovemovies

08-06-2008, 09:33 PM

It was okay.

I had no problem with Seth Rogan dating somebody hot. But I do have a problem with dating somebody who is still in fucking high school. Was that suppose to be funny? Because it was not. It was just plain creepy.

The first half of the movie is EXTREMELY scattershot with there being WAY more misses than hits. But it gets better in the second half.

The cartoonish violence is a strange thing. Sometimes it worked for me and sometimes it didn't.

The car chase - LOVED it.

The entire climax in the warehouse - very enjoyable.

The big fight with the Red character? Didn't work for me. Not really very funny. Well, some of it was but most of it wasn't.

A lot of the movie is like that. Some good stuff but quite a bit of stuff that doesn't work as well.

Ultimately this movie is more of a rental. It's not terrible but it's not great either. I can't muster enough excitement to give this movie anything more than a lukewarm recommendation.

6/10

xseanymacx

08-06-2008, 09:38 PM

9/10. I liked this more than Knocked Up, Superbad, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, and Superbad. Not quite, in my opinion, as great as 40 Year Old Virgin.

James Franco stole the show and I loved every moment of this movie. The over-the-top violence, the guy getting the girl, the one liners, the weed, I loved it all.

BakeTheMooCow

08-06-2008, 10:10 PM

In BakeTheCowMoo's world, only hot people should date hot people! Ugly people should date ugly people! Separate, but equal!

Do you think women only choose rich attractive men?

If you don't think their character would have a chance with these women, that's one thing, but it shouldn't be based on their looks.

Fine, hot women date ugly guys all the time. Even if I buy that, what else is appealing about the characters of Jason Segel from Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Seth Rogen from Pineapple Express?

They're kinda funny? You know, the Dale Denton character isn't even funny in front of his girlfriend. In one scene, he goes to her high school and confronts some assholes, and he's a completely humorless asshole himself. And I don't think he ever said anything during the movie to make her laugh.

They have dead-end jobs. They're immature man-childs. They're lazy. They're easily envious of other guys. They are unappealing in every way.

Go ahead and watch the movie and give me one good reason why Angie would date a guy like Dale.

sbunn10

08-06-2008, 10:25 PM

Just saw pineapple express.. fucking hilarious. I didn't expect it to be great.. but it was. Seth Rogen's characteristic rambling and banter was once again a high point of an Apatow movie, and I think it was funnier than ever. Franco was terrific, and should continue to make comedies..(forger spidey 4). Danny Mcbride's character didn't really make me laugh until the end, but it didnt bother me either.

The constant nonsense was ridiculous, and even funnier with a high Rogen and Franco running around acting stupid. I'd say that Express was funnier than Superbad, and on par with Knocked up, if not funnier.

9/10

If you like Apatow's films, check it out, you will love it. If you really aren't a fan of that type of comedy, don't watch it, and dont start an argument with fans of the humour. (It seems like everyone picks fights with Bourne just because he loves him some Apatow)

sbunn10

08-06-2008, 10:33 PM

Fine, hot women date ugly guys all the time. Even if I buy that, what else is appealing about the characters of Jason Segel from Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Seth Rogen from Pineapple Express?

They're kinda funny? You know, the Dale Denton character isn't even funny in front of his girlfriend. In one scene, he goes to her high school and confronts some assholes, and he's a completely humorless asshole himself. And I don't think he ever said anything during the movie to make her laugh.

They have dead-end jobs. They're immature man-childs. They're lazy. They're easily envious of other guys. They are unappealing in every way.

Go ahead and watch the movie and give me one good reason why Angie would date a guy like Dale.

Who gives a fuck? Its a damn movie. Maybe if you didn't try to over-analyze and pick at everything from a film, you would enjoy it more?

And in a slight answer to your inconsequential question, they are trying to appeal to the average guy. Average guys can relate to Rogen and Segal, therefore their films are well recieved by average guys. Lazy, dead-end jobs, immature... tons of people fit one or more of those descriptions, and people can relate to it on the big screen.

xseanymacx

08-06-2008, 11:08 PM

"Go fuck yourself you weird looking little prick."

:D

BakeTheMooCow

08-06-2008, 11:25 PM

Who gives a fuck? Its a damn movie. Maybe if you didn't try to over-analyze and pick at everything from a film, you would enjoy it more?

Maybe I do whatever the fuck I want. And this wasn't the main reason I didn't like the movie. I mentioned it as an aside in parenthesis in my review. I listed plenty of other reasons.

sbunn10

08-06-2008, 11:52 PM

its cool if you didnt like it.. but you seemed pretty emphatic about the whole immature character thing

ilovemovies

08-07-2008, 12:13 AM

Fine, hot women date ugly guys all the time. Even if I buy that, what else is appealing about the characters of Jason Segel from Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Seth Rogen from Pineapple Express?

They have dead-end jobs. They're immature man-childs. They're lazy. They're easily envious of other guys. They are unappealing in every way.

Rogen's character perhaps has a dead end job but not Segel's character in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Segel was great, liked his character a lot in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Really good movie.

I liked Rogen in this movie as well but I certainly could understand your criticism here.

What I don't understand is how people find it acceptable that he's dating a high schooler. Even if she was 18, and I don't think she is, I think they said she was 17, that would still be very creepy.

Mr.HyDe807

08-07-2008, 12:29 AM

Another great Apatow Flick! I cant for the dvd for another rewatch!

"You see my face? i look like the Hamburgular!"

8/10

ElderPredator

08-07-2008, 01:20 AM

I'm not kidding you guys when I say that Pineapple Express is the funniest and most outrageous picture that both Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen have ever been involved with. It had me crying from laughing so hard and the amazing action scenes made the whole thing even better.

"FUUUUUCK DAAAAAA POOOOLICE!" ;)

My rating: 10/10 Well done gents!

Rick-James

08-07-2008, 01:43 AM

It was okay. Nothing great. I'm acutally geting sick of Seth Rogen's same bullshit in every movie he's in. A stoner who's fat and a loser.. yet gets a hot as fuck girlfriend. Bullshit!

Saying that James Franco and Danny McBride were fucking great. I have never gave a shit about Franco, but fucking shit he was funny in this. McBride is just genuis. These two guys put this film over at lot. Great job there.

Also I need more Huey Lewis.

7/10

xseanymacx

08-07-2008, 02:33 AM

I do have one question...what is with the massive overtones of homoeroticism in both this and Superbad?

I love buddy flicks but these two push it sometimes beyond the, "let's see how gay we can make this sound, without it actually being gay."

Also, I thought it was quite funny that he was dating a high schooler. She was, btw, 18.

thedudeman69

08-07-2008, 02:38 AM

I like the gay humor it makes for good jokes. Like the Tape humping scene. I was cracking up so bad at it.

ilovemovies

08-07-2008, 02:41 AM

Even if she wa 18, it was still very icky. I'm the same age as the Rogen's character (25) and I wouldn't date a highschool girl because of that. Though Amber Heard is really hot. Then again, in real life Heard is actually 22 years old.

thedudeman69

08-07-2008, 02:44 AM

Ron34

08-07-2008, 03:04 AM

the movie was great, it was funny and entertaining. james franco and danny mcBride were the main highlights in the film. rogen was funny too. im still laughing when the crossroad music was playing and mcbride was laying on the bathroom floor, lol. oh yea and F' the police, lol.

8.5/10

BanksIsDaFuture

08-07-2008, 03:16 AM

Is it just me or did Craig Robinson have some of the best lines in the movie?

drc5145

08-07-2008, 08:30 AM

Is it just me or did Craig Robinson have some of the best lines in the movie?

"Man, I look like the Hamburgler!" :D

I think He and Danny McBride got in a lot of funny moments together respectively, besides Rogen and Franco.

detective mills

08-07-2008, 11:10 AM

Saw it last night. Thought it was pretty hilarious. James Franco was the best part of the movie with convincingly he constantly looked and acted absolutely stoned. Seth Rogen was also good, but played the same role he always plays. Danny McBride's character was annoying at first, but was hilarious by the end of the movie. At times, the feel of the movie was simliar to Hot Fuzz, but not as successful.
Almost, but not quite as good as Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Knocked Up, Superbad, and 40 y/o Virgin.

8/10

NathanRomano

08-07-2008, 11:33 AM

Have you not seen the total douche bags that girls date now a days? A shallow 18 year old girl, would no doubt date a pot head 25 year old.

Anyway, I loved the movie. My favorite Action Comedy.

9/10

ElderPredator

08-07-2008, 11:46 AM

I'm sure I'm not alone in this but did anybody else find Rosie Perez quite sexy in the movie? MILF! :rolleyes:

LordSimen

08-07-2008, 12:20 PM

They have dead-end jobs. They're immature man-childs. They're lazy. They're easily envious of other guys. They are unappealing in every way.

Your point? People date losers all the time. Get with the fucking program.

Walter Sobchak

08-07-2008, 12:24 PM

Your point? People date losers all the time. Get with the fucking program.

I'm living breathing proof of that statement.

And I can see how some might feel a 25 year old is too old to date an 18 year old high schooler, but there's nothing wrong at all with that. That's a 7 year difference in age and 18 is an adult. I've got friends in there 30's dating girls barely out of high school and more power to them.

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 01:47 PM

Your point? People date losers all the time. Get with the fucking program.
My point is that when screenwriters write themselves into roles where their characters are described as sexy and they are desired by hot women, it seems a bit hard to believe and an example of sacrificing realism for a chance to stroke your own ego.

It's one thing to write yourself into a hot scene like Tarantino did when he got the lapdance from Salma Hayek. In that scene, she was a stripper and he was a visitor at the club, and it was a crafty move on QT's part, but the scene was believable.

But Jason Segel and Seth Rogen wrote their characters unrealistically and that's my problem. I don't buy that their characters would have any chance with women like Mila Kunis, Kristen Bell and Amber Heard. And you keep saying that girls date losers all the time, but I'm certain that the guys have something going for them.

Dale is a bum and an asshole. He walks into his girlfriend's house while her family is ready to have dinner. He stinks and he's dirty and high and he's being chased by drug dealers and he forces the girlfriend to flee to a motel with her family for her own safety. And yet, she still wants to be with him a couple of scenes later.

It's unrealistic. Just like people getting shot with machine guns and surviving, which also happens in this movie. It's not believable and that's one of the problems I have with this movie.

therealjohng

08-07-2008, 01:52 PM

I think people are forgetting that they are watching A FUCKING MOVIE.

JohnLocke2342

08-07-2008, 01:52 PM

Great movie.. honestly. The action was first rate and hysterical. I had a big issue with Mcbride tho. I've been reading for weeks on this website that he "steals every scene he's in" and that he's the next big thing. Well, call me crazy, but I thought he sucked. He redeemed himself at the end of the movie, but for the first hour and a half I don't think I laughed at anything he said. His cat's cake? Oh ok.

I wasn't even alone. The packed audience I was with loved it, but it was eeriely quiet during his joke scenes. Maybe it's becuase of how fucking hilarious Franco and Rogen were, I dunno.. I needa see a lot more of him before I buy him as the next comedy star.

overall, solid entertaining flick, and the funniest I've seen in a while. Ranks up there with Knocked Up and Super bad on my list.

8/10

Bourne101

08-07-2008, 02:05 PM

I think people are forgetting that they are watching A FUCKING MOVIE.

Ditto.

sbunn10

08-07-2008, 02:06 PM

My point is that when screenwriters write themselves into roles where their characters are described as sexy and they are desired by hot women, it seems a bit hard to believe and an example of sacrificing realism for a chance to stroke your own ego.

It's one thing to write yourself into a hot scene like Tarantino did when he got the lapdance from Salma Hayek. In that scene, she was a stripper and he was a visitor at the club, and it was a crafty move on QT's part, but the scene was believable.

But Jason Segel and Seth Rogen wrote their characters unrealistically and that's my problem. I don't buy that their characters would have any chance with women like Mila Kunis, Kristen Bell and Amber Heard. And you keep saying that girls date losers all the time, but I'm certain that the guys have something going for them.

Dale is a bum and an asshole. He walks into his girlfriend's house while her family is ready to have dinner. He stinks and he's dirty and high and he's being chased by drug dealers and he forces the girlfriend to flee to a motel with her family for her own safety. And yet, she still wants to be with him a couple of scenes later.

It's unrealistic. Just like people getting shot with machine guns and surviving, which also happens in this movie. It's not believable and that's one of the problems I have with this movie.

It's unrealistic!? No shit! Its supposed to be fucking unrealistic. Thats why its funny. McBride's character would have been dead dozens of times.. they did all of this on purpose, trust me. They weren't going for an oscar here.

sbunn10

08-07-2008, 02:09 PM

DME

08-07-2008, 02:22 PM

I think people are forgetting that they are watching A FUCKING MOVIE.

Other people are perhaps forgetting that "beautiful women in real life wouldn't want to date these guys / shouldn't be presented as fortunate to have these guys" is just one guy's take on the film. To be agreed or disagreed with. No more, no less...

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 02:30 PM

It's unrealistic!? No shit! Its supposed to be fucking unrealistic. Thats why its funny. McBride's character would have been dead dozens of times.. they did all of this on purpose, trust me. They weren't going for an oscar here.

Let me quote the New York Times article again, and I'll source (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/movies/03harr.html) it this time.

"I think my spin was to try to make it not a cartoon,” he said. “I thought, let’s go far-out and absurd places, but let’s try to play everything as if it’s for real and try to root it in human behavior. When these guys get in fights, they’re not used to fighting, so it hurts, and they’re really sore the next day. To me, it’s funnier that way.”

That's David Gordon Green there. So tell me, are they going for realism, as the director himself is saying? Or are they trying to be unrealistic and exaggerating stuff to be funny, as you're saying?

sbunn10

08-07-2008, 02:31 PM

He may be trying to make it somewhat realistic in a sense of human behavior, but the movie as a whole is really fucking unrealistic, and he knows it. Thats the point. McBride's character lives after being shot like 8 times, blown up, and bleeding for days. Just because he tries to make us relate to the characters and their behavior, doesn't mean the story is realistic.

Nice quote though, im too lazy to look for evidence.

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 02:34 PM

I think people are forgetting that they are watching A FUCKING MOVIE.

At no point did I forget I was watching a movie.

daddiefatsacks

08-07-2008, 04:03 PM

they should have casted Justin Timberlake in Seth Rogen's role, it would have made the movie more believable, especially the scenes with Amber Heard...

LordSimen

08-07-2008, 04:45 PM

My point is that when screenwriters write themselves into roles where their characters are described as sexy and they are desired by hot women, it seems a bit hard to believe and an example of sacrificing realism for a chance to stroke your own ego.

You stated yourself that their characters weren't sexy or desirable. Make up your mind dude. Either they're sexy and desirable or they're not.

EDIT:

You know what fucking pisses me off about your problem with these guys dating hot chicks in these movies? It's that somehow you make it fucking seem like if these guys were Brad Pitt or Leonardo DiCaprio, somehow it would be okay for them to write themselves dating these hot chicks! But no, because it's a bunch of ugly fucking comedians, somehow it's wish fulfillment. Seriously dude, you're acting shallow as fuck.

CyclicNightmare

08-07-2008, 04:57 PM

I hate looking at ugly people.

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 05:10 PM

You stated yourself that their characters weren't sexy or desirable. Make up your mind dude. Either they're sexy and desirable or they're not.
What? I never said that I found their characters sexy or desirable. I said that Seth Rogen, one of the screenwriters of the movie, wrote himself into a role where his teenage girlfriend calls him "sexy" and she desires him. Do you understand that? Don't tell me to make up my mind like I just contradicted myself.

EDIT:

You know what fucking pisses me off about your problem with these guys dating hot chicks in these movies? It's that somehow you make it fucking seem like if these guys were Brad Pitt or Leonardo DiCaprio, somehow it would be okay for them to write themselves dating these hot chicks! But no, because it's a bunch of ugly fucking comedians, somehow it's wish fulfillment. Seriously dude, you're acting shallow as fuck.
Absolutely true. How does that make me shallow?

LordSimen

08-07-2008, 05:17 PM

What? I never said that I found their characters sexy or desirable. I said that Seth Rogen, one of the screenwriters of the movie, wrote himself into a role where his teenage girlfriend calls him "sexy" and she desires him. Do you understand that? Don't tell me to make up my mind like I just contradicted myself.

Oh. I see. So now he should write roles where his GIRLFRIENDS call him "ugly" and hate him? Just so YOU don't think he's fulfilling some kind of wish? EVEN THOUGH HE HAS A FUCKING GIRLFRIEND AND HAS NO REASON TO FULFILL ANY WISHES?

SHE'S HIS FUCKING GIRLFRIEND FOR FUCKS SAKE. IF SHE WASN'T ATTRACTED TO HIM, SHE NEVER WOULD HAVE DATED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Why can't Rogen write himself as having a girlfriend? Is there some kind of law against fat ugly guys dating hot chicks? No. There isn't.

GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. PEOPLE DATE WHO PEOPLE WANT AND THEREFORE MOVIE CHARACTERS ARE ALLOWED TO DATE WHO THE FUCK THE WANT.

Absolutely true. How does that make me shallow?

Oh my fucking god. You're saying that ugly people can't date hot chicks. You're being the PURE fucking DEFINITION of SHALLOW for christ sakes.

daddiefatsacks

08-07-2008, 05:33 PM

the thing is none of these are really UGLY per se....when i think of ugly i think of steve buscemi....or jackie earle haley

therealjohng

08-07-2008, 05:41 PM

LordSimen is owning people today and for once I'm agreeing with him.

thedudeman69

08-07-2008, 05:56 PM

LordSimen is owning people today and for once I'm agreeing with him.

yeah

LordSimen

08-07-2008, 06:01 PM

Also, since this seems to be a problem you have with all of Apatow's films, allow me to bring this point up:

http://i.realone.com/assets/rn/img/2/7/9/6/14986972-14986975-slarge.jpg

^ Judd Apatow

http://www.the-frat-pack.com/images/news/onetime/ku-premiere/leslie.jpg

^ Leslie Mann, Judd Apatow's wife

therealjohng

08-07-2008, 06:08 PM

LordSimen - 1
Bake - 0

Bourne101

08-07-2008, 06:10 PM

http://www.caam.rice.edu/~hn5115/pics/misc/owned.jpg

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 06:21 PM

Let's see -- Judd Apatow is one of the most successful people in Hollywood at the moment.

Rich.

He's produced dozens of movies in the last 4 years and has several lined up.

Hard-working.

Even if he met Leslie Mann before he hit it big -- he's creative, intelligent, ambitious.

Yeah, totally comparable to Dale Denton.

Owned, my left nut.

therealjohng

08-07-2008, 06:27 PM

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/KillaKastro_2007/6fhaxc6.jpg

dellamorte dellamore

08-07-2008, 06:30 PM

Yeah i can see her wanting to put lotion on his back if she saw him at the beach and he happened to be a manager at Mac D's not some dude making waves in H wood . She wouldn't even know he was there .

MadsenOMC

08-07-2008, 06:30 PM

Yeah, totally comparable to Dale Denton.

Dale has a job, right? And he smokes weed? He's not totally hideous to look at? An 18 year-old might think that's cool.

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 06:34 PM

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/KillaKastro_2007/6fhaxc6.jpg

Oh. I see. So now he should write roles where his GIRLFRIENDS call him "ugly" and hate him? Just so YOU don't think he's fulfilling some kind of wish? EVEN THOUGH HE HAS A FUCKING GIRLFRIEND AND HAS NO REASON TO FULFILL ANY WISHES?

SHE'S HIS FUCKING GIRLFRIEND FOR FUCKS SAKE. IF SHE WASN'T ATTRACTED TO HIM, SHE NEVER WOULD HAVE DATED HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Why can't Rogen write himself as having a girlfriend? Is there some kind of law against fat ugly guys dating hot chicks? No. There isn't.

GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. PEOPLE DATE WHO PEOPLE WANT AND THEREFORE MOVIE CHARACTERS ARE ALLOWED TO DATE WHO THE FUCK THE WANT.

Oh my fucking god. You're saying that ugly people can't date hot chicks. You're being the PURE fucking DEFINITION of SHALLOW for christ sakes.

Yeah, I mad.

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 06:36 PM

Dale has a job, right? And he smokes weed? He's not totally hideous to look at? An 18 year-old might think that's cool.
Even after he put her family in danger by having drug dealers invade their home, she still wants him. She doesn't just think that he's "cool", she wants to marry him.

It's just an atrociously written, completely unrealistic element of the movie. That's all I'm saying.

There are many other reasons the movie isn't great:

Seth Rogen's line deliveries are bad, Danny McBride is terrible, Green's direction during the action scenes is flat, there's far too much slapstick humor, the ending scene is smug and self-congratulatory.

MadsenOMC

08-07-2008, 06:38 PM

Even after he put her family in danger by having drug dealers invade their home, she still wants him. She doesn't just think that he's "cool", she wants to marry him.

I haven't seen it, but that is valid criticism. I was referring to her dating him in the first place.

LordSimen

08-07-2008, 06:40 PM

Yeah, totally comparable to Dale Denton.

So, let me get this straight. These movies are wish fullfillment fantasies, according to you, right? That's one thing that's so wrong with these movies?

So that means, Seth Rogen, instead of wanting to be a highly success screen writer/comedic actor currently widely popular around the country for his recent film successes, with a girlfriend he's claimed he's loves dearly, he wishes to be a man with a dead end job and a hot girlfriend?

I'm not buying it, man. The only thing I could possibly buy his him wanting to go on an awesome action adventure like in the movie, but him wanting essentially to be the loser he himself admits he use to be? Doesn't add up.

Scarfather

08-07-2008, 06:42 PM

I think you struck a nerve with all those F and U words, Bake.

biff_debris

08-07-2008, 06:45 PM

Hahah, I love that the cornerstone of this thread has become the plausibility of Rogen getting Amber Heard. And WHAT THE FUCK is going on with your avatar, johng?

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 06:53 PM

And WHAT THE FUCK is going on with your avatar, johng?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWncI51ggH8

jz68

08-07-2008, 06:54 PM

Is anybody going to post a review of the movie??????????????????????????

daddiefatsacks

08-07-2008, 07:25 PM

is anyone going to take reviews seriously when people are basing them on credibility of the relationships in the movie? especially during an ACTION/COMEDY/STONER movie

Lawgick

08-07-2008, 07:42 PM

About to get baked and go watch this shit right now mofos!:D

BakeTheMooCow

08-07-2008, 07:49 PM

is anyone going to take reviews seriously when people are basing them on credibility of the relationships in the movie? especially during an ACTION/COMEDY/STONER movie

Bullshit. I didn't base my review on that. It was one line in my review. I have given multiple reasons why I didn't like this movie, multiple times.

Let's just get back to talking about this stupid movie.

athf1980

08-07-2008, 10:37 PM

4.5/5

Another gem from the Judd Apatow group. This movie is freaking funny.

Bourne101

08-07-2008, 11:30 PM

http://l.yimg.com/img.movies.yahoo.com/ymv/us/img/flickr/89/67/002738938967.jpg?x=660&y=660&sig=vNZqz4bJrlJfn2c9dvcVGA--
"Time to suck today's dick."

Pineapple Express - 9/10

Without a doubt the funniest and best comedy of the year. Apatow has done it again! Seth Rogen is great as usual, Danny McBride is very funny, and the rest of the supporting cast all does a very good job. But the one who sticks out the most, the one who delivers the most laughs, that would be James Franco, whose character will undoubtedly go down as one of the greatest stoner's of all-time. He steals every scene he is in. The direction is very good, and the action scenes were simple, well-shot, and fun as hell. The real props have to go to Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg who have again written an insanely good screenplay, filled with brilliant dialogue, easily some of the best of the year, that will make you laugh hysterically. The mix of comedy and action is done to perfection. The violence is sickly amusing and had myself and audience nearly in tears. This is my second favorite film of the year so far behind The Dark Knight, and I see myself watching this over and over again in the years to come. In fact, I'm going to see it again this weekend. It is extremely fun, maybe the best Apatow film yet, and one of the funniest movies I have seen in ages. Sheer brilliance.

JINYX

08-07-2008, 11:45 PM

Bake, if i get this right your whole argument is around the fact that Dale Denton dates a hot high school girl and you feel Rogen wrote his role to have a hot girlfriend. May I remind you that Rogen was supposed to play James Franco's character in the movie but they decided to switch because they thought it would be funnier. Ergo, no he did not write himself to have a hot girlfriend.

Also someone mentioned something about having a problem with Dale dating a high schooler, I don't really understand the problem here, she's 18. If she was 2, just 2 years older, you wouldn't have a problem with it, but since she's 18 thats all of a sudden taboo. Alot of married couples have at least a 5 year age gap or bigger. Seriously it's not that big of a deal.

As for the movie, fucking awesome. Rogen is gold but the show goes to Franco who was so fucking funny I almost pissed my pants laughing half the time. It was so awesome and I can't wait to go again soon.

9/10

sbunn10

08-07-2008, 11:57 PM

the majority of these posts have been 8/10, 9/10, 10/10, and have said something along the lines of "fucking hilarious".. so why not ignore the one person who wants to drag it down.

TheJadedGamer

08-08-2008, 12:21 AM

This movie was enough to wash the bad taste of Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanemo Bay out of my mouth. I'll be seeing it again on Saturday.

therealjohng

08-08-2008, 01:06 AM

Movie was pretty fucking funny.

thedudeman69

08-08-2008, 01:19 AM

let me guess dman, you give it a 6/10?

thedudeman69

08-08-2008, 01:20 AM

Let me guess dman, it's a 6/10 for ya?

dman476

08-08-2008, 01:21 AM

therealjohng

08-08-2008, 02:00 AM

Well this is way better than Superbad in my book, I thought that was one of the worst movies of last year. I also thought the last scene was hilarious. Overall this was a pretty enjoyable movie with a couple of slow parts. This movie did miss, but when it hit, it HIT.

Lawgick

08-08-2008, 02:09 AM

8.5/10

Fucking Hiliarious.:D

dman476

08-08-2008, 02:18 AM

Let me guess dman, it's a 6/10 for ya?

Yep, exactly. :D

I will agree with therealjohng that when it hit, it really hit.
I was laughing a lot during most of the scenes with Danny McBride, that's for sure.

And I seriously don't understand how someone could like this and not Superbad. You're not the first person who's said that either, so it's just a little puzzling. Personally, I find Superbad much funnier.

therealjohng

08-08-2008, 02:41 AM

I thought Superbad was DEAD ON in its description and portrayal of teenage boys, I just thought the jokes were not funny and the situations not funny either. I thought it was just OK the first time then I watched it again and didn't laugh at all save the Coen Brothers joke.

thedudeman69

08-08-2008, 03:05 AM

Powerslave

08-08-2008, 03:20 AM

McLovin wasn't that funny. He was like the least funny part of that movie.

thedudeman69

08-08-2008, 03:21 AM

McLovin wasn't that funny. He was like the least funny part of that movie.

I know. I fucking hated that character.

daddiefatsacks

08-08-2008, 03:25 AM

oh fuck that, how could you not laugh at mclovin coming out of the cop car slo mo and tossing the cigarette, or when he says 'i have a boner!'

therealjohng

08-08-2008, 03:29 AM

oh fuck that, how could you not laugh at mclovin coming out of the cop car slo mo and tossing the cigarette, or when he says 'i have a boner!'

It's pretty easy.

thedudeman69

08-08-2008, 03:29 AM

Mclovin seem like a character the studio wanted Rogan to add to the movie for mass appeal and forever endless pop culture refrences.

SteeleDude

08-08-2008, 04:05 AM

Rukas

08-08-2008, 05:08 AM

This was one of the funniest movies I have seen in a long long long time.

Powerslave

08-08-2008, 05:20 AM

I saw this on Wednesday and liked it. I'd give it a 7/10. But the thing is, the theater was half-empty, it was noon, and I'd barely slept. My brother, who I went with, later revealed that he was falling in and out of sleep for similar reasons, and didn't really catch the whole thing. I feel like I need to watch this again, in a full theater, fully alert. That 7/10 just isn't sitting right. This feels like it should be at least an 8, not just from the hype but from what I saw. Hopefully I get to see it again. Soon.

Cop No. 633

08-08-2008, 06:17 AM

The movie was pretty funny, but I found it lacking in many parts.
It just drags, and I think DGG is to blame.

The jokes are hit and miss, and the funny ones are usually hilarious.

But there's little semblance of a story, which is okay if it weren't for the fact that this is an hour film stretched out into two.

Plus, that last scene did stink.

It's no Superbad, but don't get me wrong, there are very amusing jokes sporadically dispersed throughout the film. I say it's worth watching once.

Those are my sentiments as well. I think the rhythm of the film was its biggest problem. It lingered on each scene longer than it needed to. There's a few jokes but for the most part, it felt generic. I think there were too many cooks in the kitchen for this one. It feels like they went out of their way to let every character have their own scene but they trade momentum and pace for it, which is key for a comedy to be consistently funny. This one drags. A lot.

Yeah, it loses steam as it goes on further along. The action scenes? Why bother? It's a comedy. The action is half assed anyway. A few scenes are just pantomiming old 80's buddy action movies (the action ones at least). I guess that was supposed to be funny, but I wanted more originality.

I did laugh at times, but it was between long stretches. I love slow films too, but with comedy it's a killer.

Close but no joint.