Obama campaign rejects Ludacris' rhymes

[echo_bravo]

July 31 - Obama campaign rejects rapper Ludacris' rhymes

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CHICAGO - Barack Obama's presidential campaign said Wednesday that a new rhyme by supporter and rapper Ludacris is "outrageously offensive" to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, Republican Sen. John McCain and U.S. President Bush.


The song brags about an Obama presidency being destiny. It uses an expletive to describe Clinton, calls Bush "mentally handicapped" and says McCain doesn't belong in "any chair unless he's paralyzed."


The lyrics also don't spare the Rev. Jesse Jackson, who recently apologized for making crude comments about Obama. "If you said it then you meant it," intones the rapper.


Obama's campaign blasted "Politics As Usual," which is on the "Gangsta Grillz: The Preview" mixtape with Atlanta spinner DJ Drama.


"As Barack Obama has said many, many times in the past, rap lyrics today too often perpetuate misogyny, materialism, and degrading images that he doesn't want his daughters or any children exposed to," campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in an e-mail statement. "This song is not only outrageously offensive to Sen. Clinton, Rev. Jackson, Sen. McCain and President Bush, it is offensive to all of us who are trying to raise our children with the values we hold dear. While Ludacris is a talented individual he should be ashamed of these lyrics."


Ludacris' publicist and manager did not immediately return calls Wednesday for comment.


In a recent interview with Rolling Stone, Obama included Ludacris when he talked about hip-hop moguls and rappers he thought were "great talents and great businessmen." Obama met privately with Ludacris, talking with him in Chicago about young people in 2006 before he announced his run for president.


In the two-minute track, the song makes a pitch for Obama to pick Ludacris as his vice president, rhyming "Hillary hated on you, so that (expletive) is irrelevant."


In the song, Ludacris also encourages black people to vote on Election Day.


"The world is ready for change 'cause Obama is here," he says repeatedly.
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Damn, I was hoping that would be his campaign song.

[john_rambo]

I ain't an obama fan... but that was a smart move on his part. The last thing he needs is another thing people blow out of proportion.

[KenSPT]

I ain't an obama fan... but that was a smart move on his part. The last thing he needs is another thing people blow out of proportion.

Yeah, like all those Democrats who blew the New Yorker cover out of proportion?

I guess when something negative happens towards Obama, it's okay for Democrats to light their torches against it, but when a rapper insults McCain and our current President, a press release solves it all.

Ah, hypocrisy.

[Bourne101]

Just another reason why I hate rap. Sure, there are some good rappers/hip-hop artists out there, but they are completely overshadowed by the misguided, arrogant, and idiotic rappers/hip-hop artists. Rap used to have some meaning, wasn't just jibberish and nonsense. Back in the days of the Wu-Tang Clan, Tupac, Biggie, and the occasional Snoop Dogg or Eminem song, rap was one of the top genres. Even people who mostly loathed rap would get caught listening to some of the great songs of for example the Wu-Tang Clan.

Nowadays it's all bullshit. Even the rappers that think they're making good points just seem pretentious and stupid.

[MoovEDude]

Scum of the Earth (in no particular order..except for rappers, cuz they serve no real purpose for humanity)

Rappers
Lawyers (mostly defense attornies)
Politicians
Used Car Salesmen

[Lindsey]

I can just see the writing on the wall with this thread. :p

Let's try not to venture too off topic guys! Thanks.

[RicochetShaw]

Scum of the earth:


Lawyers (mostly defense attornies)



Aww, shucks.

[KenSPT]

I can just see the writing on the wall with this thread. :p

Let's try not to venture too off topic guys! Thanks.

There's nothing wrong with a strong, spirited, discussion; so even if this gets heated, there's no reason to even consider locking the thread.

It's the internet, who cares?

[echo_bravo]

Lets just not have any personal attacks and this thread should be fine.;)

Classy move by Obama. He knows what he is doing. Good move on his part for distancing himself from this nonsense.

With that said, I actually like Ludacris but what was he thinking when he made this crap? He is usually a lot more creative and funny with his rhymes.

[FLAME_ON]

If I were Ludacris I'd be embarrassed to meet with Obama after him hearing that song.

[Lindsey]

It's the internet, who cares?

Because this is JoBlo.com, and we have rules baby. ;)

I don't think you're aware of how threads can turn out on these forums. Also I know this belongs in the Politics section, but *ahem* echo is not allowed over there anymore... So, I'll let it stay for now if everyone is cool with it.

[JJFlamingo]

Why Ludacris?? Why not Ice-T??? :confused:

[Scarfather]

I know this belongs in the Politics section, but *ahem* echo is not allowed over there anymore...

And there's a very good reason for that.

Why he's been consistently allowed to use the Celebrity Gossip forum to vent his political urges is beyond me.

[john_rambo]

Yeah, like all those Democrats who blew the New Yorker cover out of proportion?

I guess when something negative happens towards Obama, it's okay for Democrats to light their torches against it, but when a rapper insults McCain and our current President, a press release solves it all.

Ah, hypocrisy.

What the hell did I say was wrong... I was just saying stuff like the the church incident was blown out of proportion I was givin the guy the benefit of the doubt how is that hypocrisy that's bullshit.

[screamer581]

And there's a very good reason for that.

Why he's been consistently allowed to use the Celebrity Gossip forum to vent his political urges is beyond me.




I've had it about up to HERE with your echo bashing sir!



But yeah, smart move on Obama's part.

[FLAME_ON]

I enjoy these semi-political threads... They're tamed enough, we're not talking about policy or anything.
I understand that they can get out of hand, but most of the time they don't. And when they do get out of hand it's usually because the members of the politics board get involved.

[Beenthere]

It's not Politics forum thread and I will not write anything about the Socialist. As for the rapper: do you think he rhymed what some people think: with Obama in the White House it'll be a time for "revenge"? Don't tell me there are no such bitter crazy schmucks and ideas...

[screamer581]

It's not Politics forum thread and I will not write anything about the Socialist. As for the rapper: do you think he rhymed what some people think: with Obama in the White House it'll be a time for "revenge"? Don't tell me there are no such bitter crazy schmucks and ideas...


If you only knew the definition of "socialist".



By the way, I refuse to talk about the other candidate who happens to be a "fascist".

[Moviefan1234]

If you only knew the definition of "socialist".



By the way, I refuse to talk about the other candidate who happens to be a "fascist".

A fascist with an anger problem. Yeah that's someone you want running your country. :rolleyes:

[echo_bravo]

I've had it about up to HERE with your echo bashing sir!



But yeah, smart move on Obama's part.

Screamer! What up dawg?!;)

This is somewhat celebrity gossip related since it involves Ludacris so you gotta give me that right?:D

[Lawgick]

A fascist with an anger problem. Yeah that's someone you want running your country. :rolleyes:

We already have one running the country.:cool:

If the song is as they say(I haven't heard it) then I believe Obama made the right move. But I'm sure privately he likes it. His wife's comments about America make it clear that his views on race in this country are grounded in reality.;)

[Rapture27]

He's a rapper....nobody cares what rappers say, right?

[Smiert Spionam]

Why is it that every single time a topic comes up involving a hiphop/rap artist, it's immediately met with comments like "Rap sucks!" and "Rappers all need to die!" and the like? You all never condemn an entire genre of music whenever any other kind of artist comes up.

Seriously, it's some double standard bullshit, and ya'll really need to knock it off. Dissing an entire musical culture and everyone involved with it when you know good and well that you, in actuality, don't really know shit about it just makes you look like a tool.

[Bourne101]

Why is it that every single time a topic comes up involving a hiphop/rap artist, it's immediately met with comments like "Rap sucks!" and "Rappers all need to die!" and the like? You all never condemn an entire genre of music whenever any other kind of artist comes up.

Seriously, it's some double standard bullshit, and ya'll really need to knock it off. Dissing an entire musical culture and everyone involved with it when you know good and well that you, in actuality, don't really know shit about it just makes you look like a tool.

Just another reason why I hate rap. Sure, there are some good rappers/hip-hop artists out there, but they are completely overshadowed by the misguided, arrogant, and idiotic rappers/hip-hop artists. Rap used to have some meaning, wasn't just jibberish and nonsense. Back in the days of the Wu-Tang Clan, Tupac, Biggie, and the occasional Snoop Dogg or Eminem song, rap was one of the top genres. Even people who mostly loathed rap would get caught listening to some of the great songs of for example the Wu-Tang Clan.

If you were referring to me, I really hope you read it again. I was quite generous actually.

[darkface]

Calm down guys. Lets keep this focused.

I hate rappers... plain and simple. Good move on his part for dis-owning the rap.

I wonder if this will hurt Obama with the younger folk though. He seems to be burning his bridges in some spots lately.

[Smiert Spionam]

If you were referring to me, I really hope you read it again. I was quite generous actually.

Dude, did I say I was referring to you? No. Had I been, I would've had no problem with quoting your post and using it as reference, but I wasn't, so I didn't.

[therealjohng]

I guess Ludacris is blocking the view of Obama, so Barack told this to Ludacris:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qr7zC6A5Jk

[The Postmaster General]

What would have been the difference if The Boss played a song Obama didn't agree with? It could be a thread about a Grandmaster Flash getting hit by a school bus, and the bus suddenly exploding in a rainbow of sparkle magic, and the thread would somehow include people's strong disdain for rap music.

It's 2008. Put the torches down.

[Buck Turgidson]

Why he's been consistently allowed to use the Celebrity Gossip forum to vent his political urges is beyond me.You and me, too, brother.

[echo_bravo]

A lot of the criticism of rap is well deserved. Some of their lyrics are beyond stupid and vile.

BUT there are a number of hip hop acts that are great. Outkast has pushed the bar on creativity to the limit. I regard them as one of the best groups in all of music.

Obama did the right thing in rejecting Luda's song. He wont burn any bridges with young people or the black community with this. They understand that he has to stay posed and classy thru his campaign.

[Bourne101]

Dude, did I say I was referring to you? No. Had I been, I would've had no problem with quoting your post and using it as reference, but I wasn't, so I didn't.

Why is it that every single time a topic comes up involving a hiphop/rap artist, it's immediately met with comments like "Rap sucks!" and "Rappers all need to die!" and the like? You all never condemn an entire genre of music whenever any other kind of artist comes up.

Seriously, it's some double standard bullshit, and ya'll really need to knock it off. Dissing an entire musical culture and everyone involved with it when you know good and well that you, in actuality, don't really know shit about it just makes you look like a tool.

Sounded pretty much like your post was toward anyone who had a negative thing to say about rap.

[xseanymacx]

If any rapper should be running political, it's Immortal Technique. LEGEND.

[Smiert Spionam]

Sounded pretty much like your post was toward anyone who had a negative thing to say about rap.

Well, I wasn't, because I know that there's a difference between having a negative criticism toward something and condemning something despite being completely oblivious about it. My post was directed at people who know nothing about hiphop/rap other than what they hear on the radio and they decide to make a broad generalization that this is what the entire culture is about and thus, they use this as their excuse to shit on all of it. Generalization is the lowest form of reasoning.

Trust me, Bourne, the next time I have a response regarding something you've said that I disagree with, and I'm sure it won't be long from now, you'll know.

[Bourne101]

Trust me, Bourne, the next time I have a response regarding something you've said that I disagree with, and I'm sure it won't be long from now, you'll know.

Wow, settle down there tough guy. I'm shaking in my boots. :rolleyes:

[therealjohng]

I love where this thread is going....

[Sonny Corleone]

A lot of the criticism of rap is well deserved. Some of their lyrics are beyond stupid and vile.

BUT there are a number of hip hop acts that are great. Outkast has pushed the bar on creativity to the limit. I regard them as one of the best groups in all of music.


Well, you're a hypocrite then because Outkast was just as 'foul mouthed' and offensive as any gangster rapper when they started rapping.


Oh and I'm not against rap, I listen to lots of it, and I think the world is becoming a bunch of virgin-eared douchebags.

[DaveyJoeG]

Why is it that every single time a topic comes up involving a hiphop/rap artist, it's immediately met with comments like "Rap sucks!" and "Rappers all need to die!" and the like? You all never condemn an entire genre of music whenever any other kind of artist comes up.

Seriously, it's some double standard bullshit, and ya'll really need to knock it off. Dissing an entire musical culture and everyone involved with it when you know good and well that you, in actuality, don't really know shit about it just makes you look like a tool.

Smiert makes a good point. It seems like everytime a thread is opened that somehow relates to a rapper, people make blanket statements about the entire hip hop community. Pop has ruined every genre of music but for some reason hip hop is always singled out as if it was the only genre that has artists simply trying to make a buck. Lumping all rappers into a category known as 'scum of the earth' is very offensive and it saddens me that my fellow schmoes could be so close minded.

[KCJ506]

Smiert makes a good point. It seems like everytime a thread is opened that somehow relates to a rapper, people make blanket statements about the entire hip hop community. Pop has ruined every genre of music but for some reason hip hop is always singled out as if it was the only genre that has artists simply trying to make a buck. Lumping all rappers into a category known as 'scum of the earth' is very offensive and it saddens me that my fellow schmoes could be so close minded.

There's always gonna be people on a message board who are close minded about this kind of thing. On other boards I go to every time there's a thread about rap/hip hop by the fifth post there's some idiot/s making ignorant remarks. Seriously, if people don't like listening to it they should just stay the fuck out of the thread.

Hell most of the time I've seen people who defend rap give a valid argument that disproves the haters bullshit logic they ignore the post or reply with something stupid like "UMMM RAP SUCKS OKAY!"

[Tweek]

Why is it that every single time a topic comes up involving a hiphop/rap artist, it's immediately met with comments like "Rap sucks!" and "Rappers all need to die!" and the like? You all never condemn an entire genre of music whenever any other kind of artist comes up.

Seriously, it's some double standard bullshit, and ya'll really need to knock it off. Dissing an entire musical culture and everyone involved with it when you know good and well that you, in actuality, don't really know shit about it just makes you look like a tool.

The intolerably offensive rap that is all over the airwaves have made me weary on the whole genre. I don't think rock is full of saints or anything. I can't stand the AC/DCs and Van Halens of the world, damn it!

It is shitty though because we have folks like Ludacris (I don't know how you feel about Ludacris. I mean, just enjoying rap/rock/pop/other doesn't mean you have to enjoy every artist) as more prominent.

[darkface]

Is Soildja Boy considered rap? Because they're awful.

[FLAME_ON]

I enjoy rap... what I don't enjoy is the wave of "ringtone rap" hitting the airwaves. But I'm always hearing about legitimate rap artists denouncing that shit; so I feel a little better about it.


BTW... This post will make me a Super Schmoe, and in the words of Michael Scott, "We're not in the playground anymore". Be warned.

[KCJ506]

Is Soildja Boy considered rap? Because they're awful.

This dude doesn't represent real rap/hip hop, MCing, or whatever you wanna call it. Hell his so called music shouldn't even be called rap. Seriously how can people like his stuff? One of my co-workers thinks he's one the best rappers out there. She said that when was nominated for some type of award(I think it was best hip hop artist) he should have one. I really felt my IQ drop after hearing that. I wanted to smack her.

These have to be the worse lyrics I've ever read.

Soulja Boy
Report Card


You Know When U Jus Get Your Report Card, And You Have All F's On It U Just Wana Take It Back To The Teacher And Say To Throw Some D's On That b----!

Ballin! Soulja Boy Up In Da Buildin (Throw Some D's On That b---)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b----)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b----)

[Chorus:]
Ayyyy Soulja Boy Chillin Dog I Just Got My Report Card Looked At It All F's
Took It To Tha Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's On That b-----)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b-----)
Just Got My Report Card Ayy (Throw Some D's Throw Some D'sThrow Some Throw Some D's On That b----) Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's...)
Took It To The Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's Throw Some D's Throw Some Throw Some D's On That b----)

Sittin Up In The Classroom She Gettin On My Nerves,
The Teacher Hollin Out Soulja Boy Do Yo Work.
She Talkin Bout Adjetives, Pronouns, And Verbs.
Im Knocked Out I Aint heard Nuthin The Class Heard.
Im Daydreamin Hard Bout That Stacks On Deck,
I Dont Know How Im Gon Pass My Next Test.
I Got My Report Card Im Like Wut The Hell Is Dis.
I Took It Back To The Teacher Then I Told Her

[Chorus]
Ayyyy Soulja Boy Chillin Dog I Just Got My Report Card Looked At It All F's
Took It To Tha Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's On That b-----)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b-----)
Just Got My Report Card Ayy (Throw Some D's Throw Some D's Throw Some Throw Some D's On That b-----) Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's...)
Took It To The Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's Throw Some D's Throw Some Throw Some D's On That b-----)

I Alwayz Be In School But I Be Walkin Halls.
Alot Of Teachers Give Me Test But They Be Super Hard
I Get Into Some Trouble Then My Mama Calls
But Afta I Get Out The Office Ima Tell Em All
Dat Ima Superstar And Thatz Best.
Everytime U See Me Up In Class My Head On That Desk.
And When U See Me On Dem Girls U Kno That Im Super Fresh.
Yea Teacher, Students, Class, Stupid (Wait A Min. Mutha b-----)

[Chorus]
Ayyyy Soulja Boy Chillin Dog I Just Got My Report Card Looked At It All F's
Took It To Tha Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's On That b------)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b-----)
Just Got My Report Card Ayy (Throw Some D's Throw Some D'sThrow Some Throw Some D's On That b----) Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's...)
Took It To The Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's Throw Some D'sThrow Some Throw Some D's On That b-----)

I Just Got My Report Card
I Just Got My Report Card
I Just Got My Report Card
I Just Got My Report Card
Throw Some D's On That b----
Throw Some D's On That b----
Throw Some D's On That b----
Throw Some D's On That b----
I Got A 47 Up In Math, A 67 In English, A 14 In Science. Mane What The f--- Is This Throw Some D's On That b----
This Throw Some D's On That b----
This Throw Some D's On That b----
This Throw Some D's On That b----

[Chorus]
Ayyyy Soulja Boy Chillin Dog I Just Got My Report Card Looked At It All F's
Took It To Tha Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's On That b----)
I Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's On That b----)
Just Got My Report Card Ayy (Throw Some D's Throw Some D's Throw Some Throw Some D's On That b----) Just Got My Report Card (Throw Some D's...)
Took It To The Teacher Desk (Throw Some D's Throw Some D'sThrow Some Throw Some D's On That b----)

Ballin-
U Kno When You Just In School And You Like God Damn This Too Much Homework U Like What The *beep* Man I Cant Do All This *beep* Anymore What, Whats The Problem So Much f----in Homework

Throw Some D's
Throw Some D's
Throw Some Throw Some D's On That b-----

Wow. A song about how failing school is cool.

[jdparker]

Not sure if anyone posted this yet but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcGldJlKiA

That's the song. Personally, I don't see the big deal. Who hasn't called Hillary Clinton a Bitch or Bush mentally-handicapped by now? Sure it's a little, erm, in your face, but really not too bad.

It seems clear to me that Obama is just trying to save face by rejecting the song. All politicians are phonies though.

[Tweek]

It seems clear to me that Obama is just trying to save face by rejecting the song. All politicians are phonies though.

Is it an appropriate song for Obama to endorse at all though? If you were Obama, would you?

[jdparker]

Is it an appropriate song for Obama to endorse at all though? If you were Obama, would you?

He definitely shouldn't endorse it. Ignoring it is an option. I understand the reasoning behind rejecting it. However I think said reasoning is more in the interest of avoiding scandal than him actually being offended by the song.

If I were Obama, then I probably wouldn't of won the primaries. I keep shit too real :cool:

[jdparker]

Not sure if anyone posted this yet but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcGldJlKiA

I'd also like to add that at about 1:37 in this video, shit gets hilarious.

[RustyRazor]

I love where this thread is going....

Lindsey already threw the first flag. Will penalties ensue?

[Beenthere]

If you only knew the definition of "socialist".



By the way, I refuse to talk about the other candidate who happens to be a "fascist".

Are 26 years living in the Soviet Union good enough for you, my fellow young "fascism" hater? Or I forgot: personal experience does not count here. Read and listen to "Messiah" himself, since when he stopped being a socialist?
And call John any names. It's not about him this time.

To sum up: I "built" socialism, I believed in socialism, I studied socialism, I fucked socialists. Next time you want to talk to someone down or ridicule make sure it sounds right.

[Buck Turgidson]

Another awesome thread, all about movies and entertainment.

[Smiert Spionam]

Another awesome thread, all about movies and entertainment.

Well, this is the Celeb Forum, and Ludacris did star in Crash, so....yeah.

[Moviefan1234]

Are 26 years living in the Soviet Union good enough for you

Commie.

[Lindsey]

And on that note...