Mary Kate knows something

[jackson13]

http://www.nypost.com/seven/08042008/news/regionalnews/olsen_to_heath_feds__lets_deal_122918.htm

Why would she ask for immunity if she had nothing to hide? Everyone else that has been asked to testify and what not on what they know about Heaths death have done so with no problem at all. Now here it is Mary Kate, the first one to know he died, and the idiot who instead of calling the paramedics called her bodyguards, wants 'immunity' before she speaks. Very very shady if you ask me.

[Smiert Spionam]

Shady as fuck! That bitch definitely has something to hide, and if that bitch was responsible, I give her a year tops before some crazed homicidal fanboy puts a bullet in her brain.

Fuckin' non acting, anorexic, junkie bitch.

[electriclite]

My guess would be that she had illegally obtained prescription drugs and shared them with Heath, which would put her in WORLDS of trouble. Thus her reason for asking for immunity before talking.

[Smiert Spionam]

My guess would be that she had illegally obtained prescription drugs and shared them with Heath, which would put her in WORLDS of trouble. Thus her reason for asking for immunity before talking.

Figures. :rolleyes: Explains why she'd send her personal people over there before the cop's so they could get rid of all the evidence. This is even worse than that shit with Andy Dick and Phil Hartman's wife.....

To quote Patton Oswalt in Reno 911!: Miami, "No immunity to bullets!"

http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2007_Reno_911___Miami/Thumb/007ROM_Patton_Oswalt_003.jpg

[Tweek]

Meh...

The sources said Ledger's employees reached out to Olsen because they panicked at finding his body and did not know what to do.

I still can't buy that.^^


But um...

My guess would be that she had illegally obtained prescription drugs and shared them with Heath, which would put her in WORLDS of trouble. Thus her reason for asking for immunity before talking.

Same here. And I mean at the very least.


I really hope no matter what part she part she played, she becomes even more dead inside.

[electriclite]

Meh...

The sources said Ledger's employees reached out to Olsen because they panicked at finding his body and did not know what to do.

I still can't buy that.^^




Yeah, because when I find a dead body, the first thing I wonder is WWMKOD?

[Lindsey]

Mary Kate is always high... She's a complete mess, who obviously supplied the Oxy to Heath.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/Badabing00/marykate.jpg

[Tweek]

Lindsey... Did you purposefully try to look for a gigantic picture?

[FLAME_ON]

What was Heath doing being associated with her??? That just had trouble written on it from the start.

[Lindsey]

Lindsey... Did you purposefully try to look for a gigantic picture?

Haha... Nah thats the only picture I can think of when I think of Mary Kate. That and this one:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/Badabing00/mary-kate-olsen-arrives-at-the-new-.jpg

[Silverload]

The sources said Ledger's employees reached out to Olsen because they panicked at finding his body and did not know what to do.

That's bullshit, Ledger was still alive when the masseuse found him.

In my eyes Mary Kate is responsible for his death. Why would a masseuse call Mary Kate before the paramedics? Why would Mary-Kate tell her not to call the paramedics and wait for a special security officer to show up? If these dumb bitches had call the paramedics right away Ledger would be alive today.

[FLAME_ON]

That's bullshit, Ledger was still alive when the masseuse found him.

In my eyes Mary Kate is responsible for his death. Why would a masseuse call Mary Kate before the paramedics? Why would Mary-Kate tell her not to call the paramedics and wait for a special security officer to show up? If these dumb bitches had call the paramedics right away Ledger would be alive today.

How did this not open a murder investigation???
To me, that translates to: Masseuse goes in to make sure he's dead, she calls Mary Kate to confirm, Mary Kate sends "special security" to take care of the scene and situation.

Disclaimer: I may be a little dramatic.

[APzombie]

This is fucking bullshit. Why would she ask for immunity if she didn't give him illigal drugs? That is the very least she could be hiding, it could be fucking worse for all we know.

Man, right when i thoguh i couldn't stand those two girls any more, they get caught up in the death of a such a fucking talented guy.

Whats her statement now anyway? "I'll tell you what happened if you don't punish me!" Thats not how it works sweety. If shes accused i hope she goes to prison, at least get her blacklisted from hollywood.

[Lucky Denver]

I'd hate to say this but. . .yeah, this is strange and I hope people get to the bottom of it. Heath's death still shocks me and even though I didn't know him, I wish he was still alive. He seemed like a cool dude that loved his daughter and if someone is responsible for her growing up without a father when it could have been prevented, they deserve to pay.

[Smiert Spionam]

I'd like to think that even if this bitch does get immunity, if it comes out that she was responsible for killing Ledger, then no studio would touch her. Period.

Then she can go die in the gutter like junkie she is.

[BanksIsDaFuture]

I didn't even think "immunity" was real, I thought that was only in movies.

[echo_bravo]

WOw she is shady.

[hasselbrad]

Haha... Nah thats the only picture I can think of when I think of Mary Kate. That and this one:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/Badabing00/mary-kate-olsen-arrives-at-the-new-.jpg

This picture proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that she is a danger to others because she is so high, that she lacks any semblance of common sense.

[CyclicNightmare]

Michelle Tanner murdered the Joker.

[Rapture27]

When white people die....someone will pay.

[Muta]

That's bullshit, Ledger was still alive when the masseuse found him.

In my eyes Mary Kate is responsible for his death. Why would a masseuse call Mary Kate before the paramedics? Why would Mary-Kate tell her not to call the paramedics and wait for a special security officer to show up? If these dumb bitches had call the paramedics right away Ledger would be alive today.

Where did you hear that?

[Lindsey]

It might be his personal opinion that he might be still alive today, if the first phone call was indeed for police.

According to The NY Post:

When the two women entered his bedroom at about 3:20 p.m., Ledger was nude, lying face down and unresponsive, police sources said.

Pills were strewn around the bed, and there was a bottle next by the actor's body, police sources said. The maid and therapist called 911 at about 3:26 p.m. Emergency workers were unable to revive the star, and he was pronounced dead at 3:35 p.m.

[thedudeman69]

Michelle Tanner murdered the Joker.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b5/200px-Vlcsnap-1211858.png

You got it, dude.

[Silverload]

Where did you hear that?

From what I remember the official statement is that he was alive when first discovered and stopped breathing shortly after. Like the NY Post statement that Lindsey posted reads, he was unresponsive. He was alive when found, and the masseuse/therapist (whatever she wants to be called) went against Mary Kate's "orders" and called the paramedics after he stopped breathing.

According to Wikipedia:
At about 2:45 PM on January 22, 2008, Ledger was found unconscious by employees in his fourth-floor loft apartment, at 421 Broome Street, in the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan.Emergency crews arrived soon after but were unable to revive him.

[Scorpio24]

I'd like to think that even if this bitch does get immunity, if it comes out that she was responsible for killing Ledger, then no studio would touch her. Period.

Then she can go die in the gutter like junkie she is.

I don't spend my life trawling celeb sites to get the skivy on a story so I may be corrected here.

However I think you'll find that Heath was responsible for his tragic death. Ya know unless a very skinny small girl held him down and force fed him the pills herself.

I don't think she really needs the studios to stay out of the gutter. Doesn't she have $8897887879846857474879 billion in the bank?

[xseanymacx]

So it was, probably, her drugs and her massage lady and her body guards?

WTF??

[JJFlamingo]

Looks like Mary-Kate might be moving into the Amy Fisher suite at the New York State Prison...:D

[starcat]

I don't spend my life trawling celeb sites to get the skivy on a story so I may be corrected here.

However I think you'll find that Heath was responsible for his tragic death. Ya know unless a very skinny small girl held him down and force fed him the pills herself.

I don't think she really needs the studios to stay out of the gutter. Doesn't she have $8897887879846857474879 billion in the bank?

Thank you!!! Im glad somebody said it. Heath Ledger was a grown man, not forced to take anything no matter who he scored it from, which there is no evidence to say for sure where he got it anyway. Its simple, his dumbass ass should have taken one or two and quit, but something tells me there was way more than that in his system. Shit, I still dont believe Courtney killed Kurt, and I damn sure dont think Mary Kate had anything to do with Heaths death... she probably just doesnt want her name dragged through the mud anymore than it already has... or more than likely doesnt want anyone to know they were banging.

[thedudeman69]

Thank you!!! Im glad somebody said it. Heath Ledger was a grown man, not forced to take anything no matter who he scored it from, which there is no evidence to say for sure where he got it anyway. Its simple, his dumbass ass should have taken one or two and quit, but something tells me there was way more than that in his system. Shit, I still dont believe Courtney killed Kurt, and I damn sure dont think Mary Kate had anything to do with Heaths death... she probably just doesnt want her name dragged through the mud anymore than it already has... or more than likely doesnt want anyone to know they were banging.


Oh that is great logic. "they were having sex together" Oh yeah, Ledger would just fuck soneone on the side after Williams. By the way, she is a KNOWN DRUG ADDICT. Here I am going to bold it for you in case you don't understand. KNOWN DRUG ADDICT She probably was the one that g ave Heath the pills that killed him. Yes, it is all speculations, but what is so fucking damning about this is they didn't call 911 for a couple of hours.

[MadsenOMC]

If Mary Kate indeed supplied Ledger with the drugs that killed him, did she also hold a gun to his head and force him to swallow the pills? Or did Ledger willingly and knowingly take the pills that led to his death? It's not a defense of Mary Kate as much as it's putting the responsibility where it belongs. It seems that Ledger had a drug problem, and it killed him. No one forced him to do drugs. It's sad and a waste, but Heath Ledger is responsible for Heath Ledger's death.

[starcat]

Thats what im saying, im not taking up for Mary Kate... I totally dont even know her. But if im toking on a doobie I cant blame anyone but myself when I do it. And who cares if she was a known drug user. News flash buddy, the biggest percentage of them are. And sometimes they die. Anybody after Elvis knows the risk when they do it, and they choose to play the game anyway. I choose to play everynow and then, like a huge percentage of the world does. And maybe she didnt call 911 right away thinking she could get somebody there and get him taken care of quietly so the media didnt find out and blow it up just like they do anytime a celebrity does something... you know cause they are not aloud to have a life without us knowing everything about it and bashing there everymove... we are so high and mighty!!!

[mel1ssa]

Thats what im saying, im not taking up for Mary Kate... I totally dont even know her. But if im toking on a doobie I cant blame anyone but myself when I do it. And who cares if she was a known drug user. News flash buddy, the biggest percentage of them are. And sometimes they die. Anybody after Elvis knows the risk when they do it, and they choose to play the game anyway. I choose to play everynow and then, like a huge percentage of the world does. And maybe she didnt call 911 right away thinking she could get somebody there and get him taken care of quietly so the media didnt find out and blow it up just like they do anytime a celebrity does something... you know cause they are not aloud to have a life without us knowing everything about it and bashing there everymove... we are so high and mighty!!!

i'm with you up until a point. if (big if, i know) she hesitated on calling for an ambulance, she took that risk. and that part falls on her shoulders.

[MadsenOMC]

No doubt not calling an ambulance immediately was a despicable thing to do. But, Ledger and Ledger alone decided to take the drugs. He knew the risks involved. That doesn't mean it isn't a tragedy. It is. But let's not completely absolve him of responsibility here.

[Tweek]

No doubt not calling an ambulance immediately was a despicable thing to do. But, Ledger and Ledger alone decided to take the drugs. He knew the risks involved. That doesn't mean it isn't a tragedy. It is. But let's not completely absolve him of responsibility here.

The whole aftermath of his body being found is what strikes me as despicable above al. No, she didn't force him. He made the choices. The failed cover-up is awful.

But about her seeking immunity to keep her name from being dragged through the mud. It wouldn't stop that! And if they had been "banging" how is seeking immunity from prosecution a reasonable way to keep that under wraps? That's a bit extreme.

[starcat]

Yeah, I agree. I appologize if I sounded otherwise. I said celebrity tabloids and such could be a reason she didnt call the ambulance, but I should have followed up with she still should have called it. I mean, unless there was a perscription with her name, or a note that said im dying of pills Mary Kate Olsen gave me there was no proof that could have tied her to them. In fact, if she hadn't sent her guy there and had called an ambulance no one would probably be suspecting her of anything. I just cant help but think she didnt really think he would really be dead and trying to make sure her friends career wasnt jeopardized by this incident. A good move if he had just been sick or out cold... but because of the outcome... it just lets you know that just to be safe, no matter how much good you think your doing...call the damn ambulance!!!

[starcat]

The whole aftermath of his body being found is what strikes me as despicable above al. No, she didn't force him. He made the choices. The failed cover-up is awful.

But about her seeking immunity to keep her name from being dragged through the mud. It wouldn't stop that! And if they had been "banging" how is seeking immunity from prosecution a reasonable way to keep that under wraps? That's a bit extreme.

I always like your posts Tweek, many times have you made me think twice about my own opinion... not saying you always change it, but you do make me think about it. On this hand though I already agree with you, im not abiding the cover up. I was just trying to think what it would be like being a celebrity and everything you do lands you in US Weekly, and Extra, and The Soup, and a billion other places... it probably makes you sneaky as a 3 year old always afraid your dirty laundry will be aired out in front of the world.

[dellamorte dellamore]

I agree , nobody forced him to do those drugs , and does anyone know what ledger was really like as a person , if anything his turn as the Joker is distracting people from the fact that he ingested those drugs , regardless of who may have supplied them .

Now , if by some fantastical chance someone somehow forced those pills down his throat , then it's a murder investigation , if he willingly took those drugs , then maybe there will be some violations related to whoever supplied those drugs , but it will be a minor offense , and they will round up the usual suspects , anyone connected to the drug ring / prescription drug ring , because i'm sure there is a group of people supplying these celebrities with whatever drugs they desire . I don't know , there could be some doctors involved , low level dealers , a canada connection , who knows .


I'm sure a tangled web will be exposed once Olsen talks , and i'm sure she will , because the Nypd is dying to know what exactly happened , it's a stain on their department because they still don't know what went down that night and what led to it or who facilitated the events that transpired . He was only a resident of Ny for what amounts to a brief moment in time , but i can see he became one of us , a local boy done good . They accepted him as one of our own even if he was a transplant from a far away country .

People related to the newspapers that they would see him hanging in cafes by himself or catching a movie all alone , unassuming in his celebrity . A man who was dedicated to his craft and didn't flaunt his celebrity . They accepted him as a genuine person in search of a decent life with his family , so it is somewhat personal now that he passed away in Manhattan .


Maybe the investigation into his death is intensified now because of the success of Tdk , and i agree , it has probably influenced the recent developments , but i'm sure , regardless of all the attention Tdk is getting and the accolades his performance is receiving , we just want to know what happened to a person that seemingly had everything to look forward too .


Whatever comes out , i still wish Ledger would have utilized more prudent judgement when it came to his leisure activities and the people he associated with . He had a nice family , here and back in Aussie land . I don't think he ever realized that people appreciated his talent and that he inspired others with creative impulses .

[AndrewDB]

Haha... Nah thats the only picture I can think of when I think of Mary Kate. That and this one:

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn234/Badabing00/mary-kate-olsen-arrives-at-the-new-.jpg

^- WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!

Is that even human?

[outsyder]

I wonder what the fanboys will do if it's revealed she was at least in a small way responsible for Heath's death?

One can only imagine the possibilities.

[BadCoverVersion]

No doubt not calling an ambulance immediately was a despicable thing to do. But, Ledger and Ledger alone decided to take the drugs. He knew the risks involved. That doesn't mean it isn't a tragedy. It is. But let's not completely absolve him of responsibility here.

True that.

Such a sad loss, but ultimately Heath was his own person. However MKO shouldn't be granted immunity or whatever...that would stink.

[Cosimo]

mary kate was also responsible for morgan freemans car crash! she is a total nuisance

[therealjohng]

Bring Me The Head of Mary Kate Olson.

[shoe1985]

If she provided him with the drugs, illegally, she should have to pay the piper. She shouldn't be charged with murder because Heath took the drugs, not her, well maybe she did, but she didn't force him too.

Most celebs are known to take drugs, mainly sleeping pills. When you are working for months and getting very little sleep, now you come home and you can't sleep, what would you do?

I am sure this will be a hot topic for the coming months.

[Damone]

I wonder what the fanboys will do if it's revealed she was at least in a small way responsible for Heath's death?

They'll flood the internet with posts about all things that should happen to her.

[DRbeauty]

If she didn't give them the pills, I'm sure it wasn't hard for him to get it from some doctor. There are way too many medical "professionals" who are passing these things out like it's going out of style. The hospital I work at is notorious for druggies finding legal ways of supporting their habits. The sad thing is that all it takes is the wrong combination, not the quantity. Heath had two different opiates, two or three different benzos in his system. Recipe for disaster, and it was. I obviously don't know what went down that day, but if there was a delay in seeking medical attention, then she's going to have to live with that for the rest of her life, and that's probably more punishment than what she'll receive. It reminds me of all those cases you hear of people putting their friends in a tub to let them "sweat it out" after a fun filled X party. Horrible decisions.

[RustyRazor]

She's in big trouble, mister.

No?

What a friggin' stain on the world she is.
She wants immunity because she knows she did something to help end this man's life.
All of that money and privelege and this is what she does with it?
It's a joke to think she's going to be penalized in any way.
Money = 30 minutes of jail and time served.

Makes you sick just thinking about it, doesn't it?

[MadsenOMC]

Yes, it does, especially when you think about Heath's family and his daughter.

His family and daughter weren't enough reasons for him to not do drugs. How could Olson possibly have ended his life? By giving him drugs that he asked for and wanted and then took?

[Lucky Denver]

She's in big trouble, mister.

No?

What a friggin' stain on the world she is.
She wants immunity because she knows she did something to help end this man's life.
All of that money and privelege and this is what she does with it?
It's a joke to think she's going to be penalized in any way.
Money = 30 minutes of jail and time served.

Makes you sick just thinking about it, doesn't it?

Yes, it does, especially when you think about Heath's family and his daughter. If she is somehow responsible in any way, shape or form, I hope that eats at her every single day for the rest of her life. I sure as hell wouldn't want that on my soul every day.

[RustyRazor]

His family and daughter weren't enough reasons for him to not do drugs. How could Olson possibly have ended his life? By giving him drugs that he asked for and wanted and then took?

Giving him a bad dose of drugs could have possibly ended his life.
Receiving a call from the housemaid that found him and calling her INSTEAD of calling the paramedics and NOT telling the housemaid to call the paramedics immediately could have possibly ended his life.

There's two possibilities.

[MadsenOMC]

Giving him a bad dose of drugs could have possibly ended his life.
Receiving a call from the housemaid that found him and calling her INSTEAD of calling the paramedics and NOT telling the housemaid to call the paramedics immediately could have possibly ended his life.

There's two possibilities.

Is not calling 911 immediately a criminal act? What would they charge her with?

And if she have him prescription meds, how is that giving him bad drugs? And either way she didn't make him take those drugs.

[Brendan M.]

Is not calling 911 immediately a criminal act?

Its suspicious. Imagine yourself in the situation. What's the first thing you think you would do?

[MadsenOMC]

Its suspicious. Imagine yourself in the situation. What's the first thing you think you would do?

I'm not saying it wasn't a mistake. I'm asking if it's criminal, and if so what is the charge.

[DRbeauty]

It is illegal to give someone prescription narcotics, and those things are becoming even more dangerous now.

Dear Oxycontin,

No matter how wonderful you make people feel, pumping you out of people's stomachs at 3am is not fun.

[MadsenOMC]

It is illegal to give someone prescription narcotics, and those things are becoming even more dangerous now.

And that sounds like something they could charge her with.

[Brendan M.]

And you can tell just by a single glance that the bitch is on drugs.

[jackson13]

I'm asking if it's criminal, and if so what is the charge.

I'm sure its some form of neglect. She knew what to do, what should have been done, and didnt do it. Its quite a stretch, but remember the last episode of Seinfeld where the guy gets carjacked and they just stand there and laugh? And then get arrested? Its a stretch, sure, but its just about the same thing. They knew what to do while the guy was being carjacked, but didnt, and got arrested for it. Mary-Kate knew what to do when informed of the situation, and didnt.

[electriclite]

It was determined by the autopsy that Heath died of an accidental overdose. All the drugs they found were depressants, which one could interpret as he was trying to battle anxiety related to sleep deprivation and induce sleep.

I've seen people on prescription sleeping pills and more often then not they always up the amount because they develop a tolerance to the drug. Mainly because they're only treating the symptoms and not the problem creating them. Sleep deprivation is mentally debilitating. Go more than 10 days without sleep and you will die, because your neural synapses begin to slowly shut down like a lightbulb slowly burning out. Before that, you start to go crazy and your anxiety levels go through the roof. If he scored Oxycontin from Olsen, that's probably what it was for; to self medicate insomnia related anxiety.

Not saying that Heath lost his mind but its almost on par with being drunk, in that your cognitive functions begin to suffer. Couple with that the desperation to get any kind of sleep and have your body and mind relax and shut off for a couple of hours, and you will do stupid shit.

Heath's stupid shit turned out to be fatal.

He should have taken time off of work for health reasons and checked into a Sleep Deprivation clinic to have doctors monitor him and deduce a personalized method of treatment to combat his insomnia, instead of just taking the mobile cure route for the jet-set group thinking that would be a quick fix till some distant day in the future when he realized he had a serious problem and got it treated.

[The Postmaster General]

Sharing pills is illegal and would put her as assisting with his death. If a schizophrenic asked me if he could borrow my gun, to allow so would be illegal, and anything that happened afterward would be partially my responsibility. It's the same thing with pills. In the eyes of the law at least. I think it kind of sucks if she gets immunity, but at the same time, it might have to be sort of a price in order to get the truth. That doesn't make it right, just her kind of Evil. A lot of people share their pills though. That doesn't make it right, just her not a conspirator to commit murder.

[MadsenOMC]

I can see charging her with illegally giving him prescription narcotics, if that's what she really did. That would make sense. Not calling 911 immediately is a different story. The morality of that decision is easy to argue, but criminal conduct is a different story. What's the precedent? Would the charge be some sort of negligence?

[electriclite]

Sharing pills is illegal and would put her as assisting with his death. If a schizophrenic asked me if he could borrow my gun, to allow so would be illegal, and anything that happened afterward would be partially my responsibility. It's the same thing with pills. In the eyes of the law at least. I think it kind of sucks if she gets immunity, but at the same time, it might have to be sort of a price in order to get the truth. That doesn't make it right, just her kind of Evil. A lot of people share their pills though. That doesn't make it right, just her not a conspirator to commit murder.
I've watched way too much Law & Order, but aren't you supposed to have something big to offer the prosecution or investigating detectives in order to receive immunity? Like information on someone bigger that the authorities feel is a higher priority criminal or criminal offense?

Because unless she has something like that , I highly doubt they're going to be offering her any kind of immunity if the buck stops with her.


Plus if she didn't advise calling 911 because it had some relation to hiding the legal/illegally obtained prescription drugs she allegedly gave him, that'd put her in MUCHO hot water. That would make her criminally negligent, and could possibly be a felony.

[MoovEDude]

His family and daughter weren't enough reasons for him to not do drugs. How could Olson possibly have ended his life? By giving him drugs that he asked for and wanted and then took?

I agree. Obviously drugs were more important to him than his family (I wont say he didnt love his family)...She isnt responsible for his death, he wasnt a minor - get real fanboiz...but she IS (if she was) responsible for owning, buying and distributing illegally and/or illegal narcotics - so she should pay for THAT crime as well as conspiracy to cover up an Od. On that alone, I'd have no problem throwing her skanky ass in prison for at least 5 years solid.

[MadsenOMC]

Her giving him the prescriptions is the least of the things she could have done. I was commenting more on the idea that she didn't do anything. That Heath did it all to himself. No matter how you look at it, she holds some legal responsibility.

I don't know about the immunity thing, but it would suck if she gets it no matter what.

What do we know without a doubt that she did? She didn't call 911 right away. That we know for sure. Other than that, what do we know for sure?

[The Postmaster General]

I've watched way too much Law & Order, but aren't you supposed to have something big to offer the prosecution or investigating detectives in order to receive immunity? Like information on someone bigger that the authorities feel is a higher priority criminal or criminal offense?

Because unless she has something like that , I highly doubt they're going to be offering her any kind of immunity if the buck stops with her.

Plus if she didn't advise calling 911 because it had some relation to hiding the legal/illegally obtained prescription drugs she allegedly gave him, that'd put her in MUCHO hot water. That would make her criminally negligent, and could possibly be a felony.


Her giving him the prescriptions is the least of the things she could have done. I was commenting more on the idea that she didn't do anything. That Heath did it all to himself. No matter how you look at it, she holds some legal responsibility.

I don't know about the immunity thing, but it would suck if she gets it no matter what.

[APzombie]

Well in addition to her possibly supplying Heath with the drugs, didn't her people that found Heath call her first before the paramedics? Obviously they didn't think his health was worth the risk of authorities finding out whose drugs he was using.

Heath was an adult yes, but that doesn't mean Olsen or her people are innocent.

[DepartedLad]

WHAT!? The chick is well within her rights not to speak to the fuzz.

[MoovEDude]

WHAT!? The chick is well within her rights not to speak to the fuzz.

And refusing to talk to police which would help put this thing to rest, and which any INNOCENT, LOGICAL and REASONABLE person WOULD DO - Would WANT to do - screams GUILT of SOMETHING to other people who are reasonable and logical. :cool:

[electriclite]

Ok, speaking with my friend the legal expert here's what kinda charges she could be looking at given the various scenarios that have been formulated in this thread:

Illegal prescription drugs: Federal offense, automatic. You will be charged by the pill for that. And if someone dies having used those same pills?...... Well you can imagine.

If she neglected to advise the masseuse to call 911 to cover up alleged prescription drug sharing, that's Conspiracy: 25 years automatically.

Basically she could be racking up offenses for all we know.

[thedudeman69]

Yeah, Heath made a stupid desicion, but fuck man she gave him the drugs and he did too much of them so that looks bad for her as she has a dead guy on her hands and she doesn't call 911 or even talk to the police for a couple of hours? Huh? she probably did some shit to make sure she wouldn't be involved in it. probably took the doctor tag off the bottle or something. I still think she is heavily involved in killing him, but she didn't kill him per say.

[muttly69]

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/b/b5/200px-Vlcsnap-1211858.png

You got it, dude.

lol

[MadsenOMC]

If she neglected to advise the masseuse to call 911 to cover up alleged prescription drug sharing, that's Conspiracy: 25 years automatically.

Like I asked before, is there any precedent for this? How frequently are people given prison for not calling 911 when they should have? I have never heard of someone being charged with conspiracy for not calling 911 (or instructing someone else to not call 911). That doesn't mean it hasn't happened though, which is why I ask.

[thedudeman69]

Like I asked before, is there any precedent for this? How frequently are people given prison for not calling 911 when they should have? I have never heard of someone being charged with conspiracy for not calling 911 (or instructing someone else to not call 911). That doesn't mean it hasn't happened though, which is why I ask.

Why are you defending Olsen so much

[MadsenOMC]

Why are you defending Olsen so much

Jesus Christ. As I said before, it is not about defending Olsen. She's an easy target, but I have said more than once that her not calling 911 right away was a despicable act. However, I am not entirely sure if that was a criminal act, which is why I have asked questions about it. Is that allowed?

I also said that if she truly supplied Ledger with prescription narcotics (does anyone know for sure that she did?), which is illegal, then she should be charged accordingly.

I am not defending Olsen. Careful reading of everything I have posted should make that obvious. I am asking questions and seeking information. I also think it is a mistake to not hold Ledger accountable for his drug use, as tragic as his death surely is.

[muttly69]

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Busted!:)

[electriclite]

Like I asked before, is there any precedent for this? How frequently are people given prison for not calling 911 when they should have? I have never heard of someone being charged with conspiracy for not calling 911 (or instructing someone else to not call 911). That doesn't mean it hasn't happened though, which is why I ask.

Ok try and focus here, IF she neglected to order medical help for him in order to cover up a crime (her pills) that's a felony Conspiracy. Maybe a more imaginative and ballsy prosecuting attorney could whip it up into criminally negligent homicide, but you go with what more accurately sticks. Heck could be both or none in the end.

However its not that she didn't call 911 its WHY she didn't call 911. Now considering that she's asking for immunity, its clear that somewhere in this tragic scenario she knows she had done something wrong. What? We don't know yet.


However if she didn't cause she's an idiot, she's free and clear on that.

[MadsenOMC]

Ok try and focus here, IF she neglected to order help for him in order to cover up a crime (her pills) that's a felony Conspiracy.

The condescension wasn't necessary because I understood you. Did you even read my post, because your response doesn't address my questions. I asked about precedent, maybe some examples of someone else being charged with something like this. It's something I'm not familiar with, and I was hoping someone else (not you I guess) could provide more information about it. So to others, have you heard of someone being charged with conspiracy for not calling 911 when they should have?

[JJFlamingo]

I guess what Elec is saying is:

If she merely failed to call 911 out of stupidity or ignorance, not that big a deal, she's just an asshole.

If she failed to call 911 BECAUSE she thought to herself "oh shit they're gonna see he OD'd on my pills" and tried to better the situation for herself and cover her tracks, then its go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $100...:D

[MadsenOMC]

I guess what Elec is saying is:

If she merely failed to call 911 out of stupidity or ignorance, not that big a deal, she's just an asshole.

If she failed to call 911 BECAUSE she thought to herself "oh shit they're gonna see he OD'd on my pills" and tried to better the situation for herself and cover her tracks, then its go straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $100...:D

Sounds like the latter could be hard to prove, though I have no idea what evidence investigators have at this point. In the end the real answer could be some of both.

[JJFlamingo]

Sounds like the latter could be hard to prove, though I have no idea what evidence investigators have at this point. In the end the real answer could be some of both.

Maybe, it just depends on what her servants or whatever are saying to the cops at this point. If she's pointing the finger at them and they're pointing it back at her, ask yourself: Who's the Big Fish they're gonna go after and who are they gonna cut a deal with?? :)

[MadsenOMC]

Maybe, it just depends on what her servants or whatever are saying to the cops at this point. If she's pointing the finger at them and they're pointing it back at her, ask yourself: Who's the Big Fish they're gonna go after and who are they gonna cut a deal with?? :)

Right, and at the moment I don't think anyone knows what others have told investigators. If she did try covering up what happened, I certainly hope she is prosecuted for it.

[JJFlamingo]

Well, I guess we'll certainly find out soon enough...:D

[MadsenOMC]

Yeah hopefully.

[electriclite]

That you would need a paralegal to find out.

But doesn't matter whether its not calling 911 or something else. The main issue is "Was there any criminal intent behind the delay in medical help?" She may already be looking at possibly being prosecuted for alleged felony possession of prescription drugs. All an attorney has to do is string each event together and have it make sense.

The "latter" may not be hard to prove if they know the drugs at the scene were her's. It all depends on what comes out.

[MadsenOMC]

That you would need a paralegal to find out.

But doesn't matter whether its not calling 911 or something else. The main issue is "Was there any criminal intent behind the delay in medical help?" She may already be looking at possibly being prosecuted for alleged felony possession of prescription drugs. All an attorney has to do is string each event together and have it make sense.

The "latter" may not be hard to prove if they know the drugs at the scene were her's. It all depends on what comes out.

With the immunity demand, I'm sure she is scared for a reason. They've had a long time to investigate this.

[Lawgick]

Wow! Wtf is wrong with you people?? Even if the girl is somehow responsible for the Man's death why all the rage and hate against her due to her drug habit? You don't know jack shit about her life or what she's been threw. She was a child star...how many fuckin "behind the scenes specials" have we watched threw the years that showed how twisted hollywood can be for a kid? Who know what reasons she has for being so strungout on drugs?

If she played a part in Ledger's death then hopefully she'll pay for it. But don't hold your breath...she's a rich young white woman afterall.

[jackson13]

And now she is officially going to court:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/mary-kate-to-be-subpoenaed-in-ledger-investigation/11639?nc

[thedudeman69]

And now she is officially going to court:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/mary-kate-to-be-subpoenaed-in-ledger-investigation/11639?nc

good

[DRbeauty]

Oxycontin is not a sleep aid. It's a pain medication and the Vicodin in his system is as well. I don't know why he was taking these drugs but I hope this is a lesson to people that you do not take other people's drugs for whatever reason.

[thedudeman69]

Oxycontin is not a sleep aid. It's a pain medication and the Vicodin in his system is as well. I don't know why he was taking these drugs but I hope this is a lesson to people that you do not take other people's drugs for whatever reason.

This just shows much our country has a dependency issue when it comes to food, drugs, soda, beer or whatever. It is a sad state as we lost one of the greats of our generation to drugs yet again. Plus the drug war that is going on is one of the biggest bullshits ever. IT's not helping as a good amount of people are still dying from drugs and drug use. I respected Heath. I still do because he was a great actor. I still think she deserves to burn in hell for just fueling a habit that he had and was maybe trying to control.

[SkyNet]

Wow! Wtf is wrong with you people?? Even if the girl is somehow responsible for the Man's death why all the rage and hate against her due to her drug habit? You don't know jack shit about her life or what she's been threw. She was a child star...how many fuckin "behind the scenes specials" have we watched threw the years that showed how twisted hollywood can be for a kid? Who know what reasons she has for being so strungout on drugs?

If she played a part in Ledger's death then hopefully she'll pay for it. But don't hold your breath...she's a rich young white woman afterall.

THROUGH
THROUGH
THROUGH

for fucks sake THROUGH


also.. no matter how hard a persons life is... turning to certain drugs to calm yourself, is, to a certain extent... a cowards way out. Esp for an Olsen girl... bitch is rich as fuck... and, im sure she has problems, just like everyone else... therein lies the problem today.. people want to just medicate themselves without actually attempting to fix what troubles them.

now.. noone truly knows what the fuck happened that day... but your arhgument sir was just flawed in my opinion. To say because she was a a child star and we dont knwow hat she has been through... to me, that is just a ridiculous argument.

[DRbeauty]

You know I do feel sorry for her. She probably has a raging drug problem and probably had a hand in his death. It's like killing your friend in a drunk driving accident. Hopefully this will incident will fuel a desire to become sober and she can warn others of the same. I've done some crazy shit in my day, and have been very lucky. When I was younger my friends and I used to robo trip until my friend had an allergic reaction. I spent the whole night praying to God he wouldn't die, and he wouldn't let me take him to the hospital because he didn't want to get in trouble with his parent. You never ever know what medication your body chemistry is incompatible with.

[DRbeauty]

[QUOTE=thedudeman69;2829867]This just shows much our country has a dependency issue when it comes to food, drugs, soda, beer or whatever. It is a sad state as we lost one of the greats of our generation to drugs yet again. Plus the drug war that is going on is one of the biggest bullshits ever. IT's not helping as a good amount of people are still dying from drugs and drug use.

Absolutely. The government focuses on the illegal ones but wouldn't dream of curtailing the use of the legal ones, which are just as bad, if not worse. Pharmaceutical companies run this country. What's even more sad is the people who truly have pain have an even more difficult time because of the abusers. As much as people don't like to admit it, Heath had a problem. Yes it was accidental, but he was abusing these drugs. You DO NOT take Oxycontin and Vicodin for sleep, and you also don't take three different kinds of benzos unless you have built up a tolerance, which he did not. If he had it would have showed in his autopsy report. If it does come out that Mary Kate did supply these drugs, she's going to be crucified. However, if a heroin addict died after overdosing from his fellow user's stash, people would still place the blame on the one who died. Yes he was a great actor, and probably a nice person. However, he was an addict.

[MadsenOMC]

I still think she deserves to burn in hell for just fueling a habit that he had and was maybe trying to control.

That almost makes it sound like he was an innocent victim in all this. Are you positive about the degree of Olsen's involvement? Do you know for sure that Ledger was trying to control his habit? Do we know without a doubt that Olsen supplied him with the drugs that killed him? Listen, I know it's easy to hate Olsen in this situation, but try and think about it rationally. And for the hundredth time, I am not defending her. If she is guilty of a crime of course I hope she is prosecuted. Not immediately calling 911 was a despicable, deplorable, heinous thing to do. But your wording makes it sound like Ledger was an innocent victim of an Olsen twin.

[MadsenOMC]

This just shows much our country has a dependency issue when it comes to food, drugs, soda, beer or whatever. It is a sad state as we lost one of the greats of our generation to drugs yet again. Plus the drug war that is going on is one of the biggest bullshits ever. IT's not helping as a good amount of people are still dying from drugs and drug use.

This is sad but very true.

[Rukas]

I think at this point all we can be sure of is that Heath is responsible for TAKING the pills, that doesnt make him automatically responsible for his own death though.

That's like saying if I get hit by a drunk driver I am responsible because I chose to walk on the side of the street. Maybe I am, maybe Im not, it depends on a lot.

So to say Heath is responsible for his death, at this point, is a stretch.

He could have taken the pills, either taken too many by accident, or maybe she didnt tell him exactly what she gave him, or whatever. Maybe he pleaded for help but she was too scared to call 9/11. That would make HER responsible not him. Maybe she was too scared to call for help and she LET him die.

We dont know everything, so we can not say who is responsible right now. The truth is we'll probably never know.

[I Am Legend]

And yet Ledger should have realized the possible consequences of his own actions.

Trying to absolve him of responsibility in his death is ludicrous at best.

[Smiert Spionam]

When will people fucking realize that most of us are not saying that Heath Ledger isn't guilty of his own demise, but that this junkie bitch is equally responsible? It's not that hard to understand.

Let me break this down with a similar example: A man has his gun hidden somewhere in his house. His son finds it, goes out somewhere, and shoots someone. Ofcourse, the kid is responsible for the shooting, but the father is equally guilty of not properly hiding his piece. Same deal here. Ofcourse Ledger was a grown man, capable of making his own decisions, but had this bitch not given him pills that he wasn't subscribed (and I doubt that she is either for that matter), then they wouldn't have made a fatal concoction with his other medications, and maybe we'd already have a greenlit TDK sequel.

[MadsenOMC]

That's like saying if I get hit by a drunk driver I am responsible because I chose to walk on the side of the street.

Is that really the same thing? Is walking down the street no different than taking narcotics in terms of the known risk factor?

[I Am Legend]

Ofcourse Ledger was a grown man, capable of making his own decisions, but had this bitch not given him pills that he wasn't subscribed (and I doubt that she is either for that matter), then they wouldn't have made a fatal concoction with his other medications, and maybe we'd already have a greenlit TDK sequel.

That’s no different than blaming a bar tender for serving drinks, McDonald’s for doling out nasty treats or the host of a party for letting someone drive drunk. People are responsible for their own actions.

And why is she a bitch (not that I necessarily disagree)? Because she gave him pills?

By that same token, I guess that makes Heath Ledger a stupid bastard for taking them.

[LordSimen]

Woah. It's like very time a young celebrity dies for self-inflicted reasons, there's always one big conspiracy theory surrounding their deaths.

Elvis lives!
Kurt Cobain was murdered!
Now Heath Ledger was murdered?

'Eh. I don't buy it. I'm sure she did something wrong that she's trying to hide but I gaurante it's not as bad as some people are making it out to be.

[cuddleworthy]

When will people fucking realize that most of us are not saying that Heath Ledger isn't guilty of his own demise, but that this junkie bitch is equally responsible? It's not that hard to understand.

Let me break this down with a similar example: A man has his gun hidden somewhere in his house. His son finds it, goes out somewhere, and shoots someone. Ofcourse, the kid is responsible for the shooting, but the father is equally guilty of not properly hiding his piece. Same deal here. Ofcourse Ledger was a grown man, capable of making his own decisions, but had this bitch not given him pills that he wasn't subscribed (and I doubt that she is either for that matter), then they wouldn't have made a fatal concoction with his other medications, and maybe we'd already have a greenlit TDK sequel.

The problem with your analogy is that you're talking about a son. Presumably a minor. Ledger was not a minor and like all of us, knows damn well what pills can do if taken in drastic proportions. He had a handful of different prescription medications in his body during the time of his death. The slightest error with dosing could kill someone, let alone mixing various medications at once. Hell, prescription medications kill more Americans every year than those "illegal ones" that the government currently has a war on. Or whatever they wish to call it. Even if they do indict a person in the medical field or whoever for giving the drugs to Ledger, he's ultimately responsible for his own demise. It's tragic. But in the end, we're all responsible for our actions.

[Lawgick]

THROUGH
THROUGH
THROUGH

for fucks sake THROUGH


also.. no matter how hard a persons life is... turning to certain drugs to calm yourself, is, to a certain extent... a cowards way out. Esp for an Olsen girl... bitch is rich as fuck... and, im sure she has problems, just like everyone else... therein lies the problem today.. people want to just medicate themselves without actually attempting to fix what troubles them.

now.. noone truly knows what the fuck happened that day... but your arhgument sir was just flawed in my opinion. To say because she was a a child star and we dont knwow hat she has been through... to me, that is just a ridiculous argument.

My Apologizes Spelling Patrolman! Plz don't abuse your the authority that badge gives you. If you have sand in your vagina don't take it out on us regular citizens.:rolleyes:

Anyway, its easy to make speeches about how cowardly drug abusers are for cracking under the pressure of this fucked up world we live in but the reality is that we all fall...often. Some of us have support systems and some of us don't, Some of us have high self-esteem and some of us don't, Some of us had good families and some of us were molested and abused. Who the are you to say someone is a coward cause they used heroine addiction instead of video games addiction to escape.

Its all just escaping and most of us do it in one form or another. Maybe you should let some of those "Just say No" ads leak out of your swollen head.

[CuatroDiablos]

In the end no one forced Heath to take those pills ...she can be blamed for having illegally owned those drugs but she didn't put those pills in his mouth.

[CuatroDiablos]

I imagine fanboys...


"if Mary Kate is not dead in one hour I will blow up a Hospital"

[SkyNet]

My Apologizes Spelling Patrolman! Plz don't abuse your the authority that badge gives you. If you have sand in your vagina don't take it out on us regular citizens.:rolleyes:

Anyway, its easy to make speeches about how cowardly drug abusers are for cracking under the pressure of this fucked up world we live in but the reality is that we all fall...often. Some of us have support systems and some of us don't, Some of us have high self-esteem and some of us don't, Some of us had good families and some of us were molested and abused. Who the are you to say someone is a coward cause they used heroine addiction instead of video games addiction to escape.

Its all just escaping and most of us do it in one form or another. Maybe you should let some of those "Just say No" ads leak out of your swollen head.

my apologies.. i just have never known anyone who didnt know the differences between "Threw" and "Through"... it seems like anyone with a 2nd grade education can make the distinction.

as for the drugs... it sounds to me, like you are a drug user.. and if it helps you... good on you.. but when you wind up at that rock bottom place, you will understand the reason i see it is a cowards way out. Some of my favorite entertainers have passed away due to drug use (Farley) and i have had the unfortunate experience of seeing my brother overdose on heroin when i was 16.

So if you want to get into to drugs cuz you cant handle the world.. thats kew... your a junior schmoe, so i dont know how much you will be missed on these boards...

THREW,
–verb (used with object)
1. to propel or cast in any way, esp. to project or propel from the hand by a sudden forward motion or straightening of the arm and wrist: to throw a ball.

THROUGH
Pronunciation[throo]
–preposition
1. during the whole period of

[The Postmaster General]

But in the end, we're all responsible for our actions.


Right, and so Olsen be responsible for anything she did that aided in Ledger's death. You seem to be forgiving of even the blatantly illegal stuff. I could give a gun to a junkie, and gee whiz, I didn't use it to kill anyone, but if someone got murdered with that gun while that junkie was trying to get his fix, I don't know, I'd say that makes me at least a little bit of a stain on society.

[Cop No. 633]

Death penalty. Come on, it's not like it's Ashley.

[Lawgick]

my apologies.. i just have never known anyone who didnt know the differences between "Threw" and "Through"... it seems like anyone with a 2nd grade education can make the distinction.

as for the drugs... it sounds to me, like you are a drug user.. and if it helps you... good on you.. but when you wind up at that rock bottom place, you will understand the reason i see it is a cowards way out. Some of my favorite entertainers have passed away due to drug use (Farley) and i have had the unfortunate experience of seeing my brother overdose on heroin when i was 16.

So if you want to get into to drugs cuz you cant handle the world.. thats kew... your a junior schmoe, so i dont know how much you will be missed on these boards...

THREW,
–verb (used with object)
1. to propel or cast in any way, esp. to project or propel from the hand by a sudden forward motion or straightening of the arm and wrist: to throw a ball.

THROUGH
Pronunciation[throo]
–preposition
1. during the whole period of




I'm sincerely sorry you lost your brother like that. I have a much better understanding of why you have such a biased opinion about drugs. I doubt anything I'll say will change your mind especially considering the insulting undertone of our exchange so far.

So although I disagree with you I'll just let this go.


Peace

[SkyNet]

i apologize for being insulting dude.

[countchocula]

What the hell do you disagree about? That drugs are bad? Are you seriously justifying drug abuse? I don't care how depressed Mary Kate is; junkies are weak.

[Gregorious8]

my apologies.. i just have never known anyone who didnt know the differences between "Threw" and "Through"... it seems like anyone with a 2nd grade education can make the distinction.

as for the drugs... it sounds to me, like you are a drug user.. and if it helps you... good on you.. but when you wind up at that rock bottom place, you will understand the reason i see it is a cowards way out. Some of my favorite entertainers have passed away due to drug use (Farley) and i have had the unfortunate experience of seeing my brother overdose on heroin when i was 16.

So if you want to get into to drugs cuz you cant handle the world.. thats kew... your a junior schmoe, so i dont know how much you will be missed on these boards...

THREW,
–verb (used with object)
1. to propel or cast in any way, esp. to project or propel from the hand by a sudden forward motion or straightening of the arm and wrist: to throw a ball.

THROUGH
Pronunciation[throo]
–preposition
1. during the whole period of

Honestly dude, you're not the person who should be handing out grammar/spelling lessons. Think before you post. And I think I can say that because I'm not a junior schmoe, although I doubt I would be missed either.

Let's keep these boards civilized.

I'm not going to weigh-in on Mary Kate's drug problem or whether she's a bitch who deserves death, but I hope she didn't contribute to Heath Ledger's death. Too many lives have already been hurt by this tragedy, and it's really sad.

[SkyNet]

Let's keep these boards civilized.




They'd be more civil if people didn't take things that have been resolved and bring them up again, so they can point out one mistake in word usage!

But to swing it back around to the topic:

I don't believe Olsen deserves Death for what happened... she has to live with the fact that what she did contributed to the death of someone she loved (if the reports are to be believed that they were close friends). Of course Ledger chose to take the stuff, and she didn't shove anything down his throat.. but Guilt can be a vengeful bitch sometimes.

I don't even know what the charge would be to her if she had given Ledger some Vicoden (SP??) or Percs... what is the charge? Would she be charged with Impeding on the investigation? Because she didn't call cops right away.. but, what was the deal there? Was he in her apartment? or was he in his own? Why did the housekeeper call Olsen? What did she do, instruct the housekeeper to not call cops? So is that what she wants immunity for, cuz by the action, they could lay claim for what, Homicide? or Criminal Negligence?

weird case

[Sigur509]

Who the fuck murdered Elliott Smith? Bubbley guy like that?

[Tweek]

The problem with your analogy is that you're talking about a son. Presumably a minor. Ledger was not a minor and like all of us, knows damn well what pills can do if taken in drastic proportions. He had a handful of different prescription medications in his body during the time of his death. The slightest error with dosing could kill someone, let alone mixing various medications at once. Hell, prescription medications kill more Americans every year than those "illegal ones" that the government currently has a war on. Or whatever they wish to call it. Even if they do indict a person in the medical field or whoever for giving the drugs to Ledger, he's ultimately responsible for his own demise. It's tragic. But in the end, we're all responsible for our actions.

On a different level... If she knew he had problems with it, why would she give them to him in the first place? Just because he asked doesn't mean shit. I wouldn't give my best friend my medication. (By the way, fuckin' "young adults" and prescription drug abuse, if I hadn't said anything like that earlier.)


This is not a backward way to try and absolve him of responsibility, either.

[starcat]

All this and they closed the case.

[FLAME_ON]

Oxycontin is not a sleep aid. It's a pain medication and the Vicodin in his system is as well. I don't know why he was taking these drugs but I hope this is a lesson to people that you do not take other people's drugs for whatever reason.

Then how else are you suppose to get them!?

[starcat]

^^^ Now thats funny right there!!!




and true

[jackson13]

And just that quick they close the door on the whole thing:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_en_ce/heath_ledger

[FLAME_ON]

The masseuse discovered Ledger's body on Jan. 22. Police say she spent nine minutes making three calls to Olsen before dialing 911 for help, then called the actress a fourth time after paramedics arrived. At some point during the flurry of frantic calls, Olsen, who was in California, summoned her personal security guards to the apartment to help, police said.

Sketch.

[electriclite]

I thought she was in Utah for Sundance at the time?

She was there promoting The Wackness. I think she's the twin that's in that film.

[The Postmaster General]

Mary Kate was Ashley's alibi. They are working together and as one, just like back in their Full House days, except this time it isn't all cute smiles. It's muhdar. Muhahaha.

[muttly69]

Mary Kate was Ashley's alibi. They are working together and as one, just like back in their Full House days, except this time it isn't all cute smiles. It's muhdar. Muhahaha.




LOL:D

[thedudeman69]

Does anyone get a strange feeling she paid them off.

[FLAME_ON]

Does anyone get a strange feeling she paid them off.

Something happened... this whole thing is too weird.

It'll probably end up on E!'s Top 25 Hollywood Mysteries.

[chasingbanky]

I've learned something very valuable from this thread... If you need an ambulance don't wait for MadsenOmc to make the call for you because it is your fault you're dying.

[MadsenOMC]

I've learned something very valuable from this thread... If you need an ambulance don't wait for MadsenOmc to make the call for you because it is your fault you're dying.

Can you read? Not once did I say or even imply that. Over and over again I have described Olsen's decision to not call an ambulance as despicable and deplorable and terrible and on and on and on. Where the fuck do you get off making a comment like that? Have you even read all of my posts here? There's no way you could have, because if you had read them all you wouldn't have posted something so completely false and idiotic. Go back and read them. Carefully. I never said it's Ledger's fault that he's dying. Never implied it. It's so incredibly frustrating when people like you pull shitty comments like that out of your ass, especially when I'm trying to have a serious discussion about the circumstances surrounding Ledger's death. That is one of the dumbest and most misinformed comments I've ever read here, so congratulations to you.

[Smiert Spionam]

I've learned something very valuable from this thread... If you need an ambulance don't wait for MadsenOmc to make the call for you because it is your fault you're dying.

:D

But still, Madsen didn't imply that at all.

Others did though, so its still funny.

[MadsenOMC]

But still, Madsen didn't imply that at all.

No, I didn't, so it was a really shitty and classless thing to say.

[Smiert Spionam]

No, I didn't, so it was a really shitty and classless thing to say.

Chill the fuck out, man, he was just joking. :rolleyes:

Why is everybody catching feelings so much recently? Is everybody suffering from some self esteem issues all of a sudden?

[MadsenOMC]

Chill the fuck out, man, he was just joking. :rolleyes:

Why is everybody catching feelings so much recently? Is everybody suffering from some self esteem issues all of a sudden?

How do you know he was joking? His post reads pretty serious to me.

Please, spare me the childish eye rolling. I am perfectly calm. I don't like it when people make comments like that about me, and I am going to stick up for myself. If you have a problem with that, you can "chill the fuck out" and get over it.

[Smiert Spionam]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/parenting/images/300/baby_crying_closeup.jpg

[MadsenOMC]

I'm really sorry man. I didn't mean to hurt your feelings like that and make you cry. Don't worry about it. I forgive you and we can act like adults and move on. I don't like making people cry. It makes me feel bad. You're a little more sensitive than I thought, but that's cool.

[MadsenOMC]

If you really were sticking up for me earlier, I'm not sure why you took such offense to me sticking up for myself. That's all I was doing. His post pissed me off and was totally inaccurate, and I felt the need to stick up for myself. I have no idea why that rubbed you the wrong way, but I certainly had no beef with you.

[Smiert Spionam]

Anyways.....last time I ever stick up for you, Madsen.

[Lawgick]

What the hell do you disagree about? That drugs are bad? Are you seriously justifying drug abuse? I don't care how depressed Mary Kate is; junkies are weak.

What the hell do you disagree about? That drugs are bad? Are you seriously justifying drug abuse? I don't care how depressed Mary Kate is; junkies are weak.

I disagree with blanket statement based on nothing but bullshit delivered from on high. Not all drugs are bad. Any intelligent person can see that's true. Some drugs are bad and some are not. All drugs are bad if you abuse them. IF YOU ABUSE THEM.

Of course the average brainwashed citizen can't get their minds past "Just say No". That slogan alone shows how brainless people are expected to be.

Don't think about, Don't do your own research, Don't ask Questions, Don't Look behind the Curtain...JUST SAY NO!

Give me a break.

[Lawgick]

i apologize for being insulting dude.

Bah, it's cool. It's just the internet.:p

[Lawgick]

And just that quick they close the door on the whole thing:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080807/ap_en_ce/heath_ledger

Like I said: Rich young white female = no jail, no trouble.:rolleyes:

[Scarfather]

This thread delivered all the despicable nonsense I expected of it.

I'm so happy.

[countchocula]

I disagree with blanket statement based on nothing but bullshit delivered from on high. Not all drugs are bad. Any intelligent person can see that's true. Some drugs are bad and some are not. All drugs are bad if you abuse them. IF YOU ABUSE THEM.

Of course the average brainwashed citizen can't get their minds past "Just say No". That slogan alone shows how brainless people are expected to be.

Don't think about, Don't do your own research, Don't ask Questions, Don't Look behind the Curtain...JUST SAY NO!

Give me a break.

"Just Say Maybe Depending On the Drug" isn't the best message to send to youths since most of the human population has no self-control. You're assuming that most adolescents understand the concept of moderation. It's a safe bet to simply steer clear of narcotics altogether if you don't have refined decision-making skills. Not everyone reacts well to not-so-bad drugs.

[The Postmaster General]

This thread delivered all the despicable nonsense I expected of it.

I'm so happy.


I like how you stay upbeat in the face of darkness.

[Lawgick]

"Just Say Maybe Depending On the Drug" isn't the best message to send to youths since most of the human population has no self-control. You're assuming that most adolescents understand the concept of moderation. It's a safe bet to simply steer clear of narcotics altogether if you don't have refined decision-making skills. Not everyone reacts well to not-so-bad drugs.


Then isn't the real solution to drug abuse to teach our children self control and discipline rather then blind obedience to the law? Your line of thinking would also mean it's a safe bet for people to avoid controversy since not everyone reacts well to stressful situations. Don't cross the street not everyone looks both ways. Don't go outside not everything is safe for everyone.

And just to make it clear: There are Bad Drugs, There a not so bad drugs, and there are GOOD drugs.

Think for yourself.

[The Postmaster General]

And just to make it clear: There are Bad Drugs, There a not so bad drugs, and there are GOOD drugs.

Think for yourself.


Or at least let drugs think for you.

[thedudeman69]

Then isn't the real solution to drug abuse to teach our children self control and discipline rather then blind obedience to the law? Your line of thinking would also mean it's a safe bet for people to avoid controversy since not everyone reacts well to stressful situations. Don't cross the street not everyone looks both ways. Don't go outside not everything is safe for everyone.

And just to make it clear: There are Bad Drugs, There a not so bad drugs, and there are GOOD drugs.

Think for yourself.

Huh? Every drug you take is dangerous to your body. There is no such thing as a "good" drug.

[Lawgick]

Huh? Every drug you take is dangerous to your body. There is no such thing as a "good" drug.

This is what happens when you don't research.

[Lawgick]

Or at least let drugs think for you.

That is definitely a bad drug.

[thedudeman69]

This is what happens when you don't research.

Oh really. go talk to your pothead friends about how "the governement" is bringing down your doobie ratio.

[BadCoverVersion]

This is what happens when you don't research.

So please educate the misinformed oh wise one.

Tell us about the 'good drugs' goddamnit!

[The Postmaster General]

That is definitely a bad drug.

This is kind of the point here. I was actually motioning toward how you demand that anti-drug sentiments are so wrong, and spell out your flavor for drugs. Then, as to make a point, you tell everyone to think for themselves. It's kind of making me wonder what basis you're thinking on.

I'm not sure, for certain, what your mode is here but if you are trying to encourage people to do drugs, I don't know if you are going to have much luck. If you are trying to emphasize how wonderful drugs are, I'm not sure you are having any luck there either. Chances are most of your audience here is rather blitzed, and I'm not seeing anyone jumping behind any of these points your making.

On topic, whether or not you think Mary Kate would be fun to party with has no baring on whether or not she acted adversely toward Ledger.

[Rapture27]

Mary Kate was Ashley's alibi. They are working together and as one, just like back in their Full House days, except this time it isn't all cute smiles. It's muhdar. Muhahaha.

LOL

This chick done got away with some shit...she gave him some shit, he took it..he was dying...she didn't call 911 off the bat...he dies...she just goes on with her pathetic attempt of a celeberity career....white people cry and lock up more minorities...black people don't give a shit about this...Mexicans keep crossing the border cuz its that easy...everyone now focuses on what Brittany Spears is doing...Obama wins the election...the Chinese decide to invade...we all die.

[therealjohng]

LOL

This chick done got away with some shit...she gave him some shit, he took it..he was dying...she didn't call 911 off the bat...he dies...she just goes on with her pathetic attempt of a celeberity career....white people cry and lock up more minorities...black people don't give a shit about this...Mexicans keep crossing the border cuz its that easy...everyone now focuses on what Brittany Spears is doing...Obama wins the election...the Chinese decide to invade...we all die.


Half of me likes this post and the other half is like, eh, whatever.

[The Postmaster General]

Half of me likes this post and the other half is like, eh, whatever.


The Ashley in me likes the sweet taste of the post, while the Mary Kate side in me wants to kill. Kill!

[DRbeauty]

So please educate the misinformed oh wise one.

Tell us about the 'good drugs' goddamnit!


There is research that studies cannabis effect on cancer cells. It can slow it's growth. I'm definitely not opposed to chronic pain patients using weed to offset the effects of their disease. However, of course every substance that is abused has eventual negative effects on the body. I'm not against legalizing marijuana, however I think that people who fully support it don't realize that there are going to be plenty of problems that come along with it. I don't know what the answer is. I was a fully functioning pothead in the past. I went to school, paid my bills, never used before work, all that jazz. However, there were many times where it controlled me. Everyone is different, and allowing it to be more accessible to the public is going to be a crapshoot.

[Shockwave]

Drugs can be good when used properly. PROPERLY.

Thats the problem with many drugs. They arent used properly, and often times are used when the people really dont need them at all.

I know without certain high powerful drugs my father wouldnt be here right now(due to severe nerve pain inside his lower back, like a flame thrower being turned on your insides, that was pretty much driving him insane(due to lack of ANY sleep due to constant blinding pain) and nearly killed him.

Of course, he did alot if his own research on the stuff they were giving him, cut the amount the docs were giving him in half(it was alot more then needed) and got off of them the as fast as he could once the problem lessend up completely without aid(..not easy!). It still hasnt gone away but hes one of those people that doesnt like to take ANYTHING unless he has to.

Ive never seen someone flush so much Oxycotton. He couldve opend his own drug store!

Half the problems nowadays is that theres just so many drugs on the market and docs are so damn eager to perscribe them to cure the smallest problems.
.

[Rapture27]

Half of me likes this post and the other half is like, eh, whatever.
So a 5/10?? We rate everything else here, might as well rate each others posts....I gave yours a 7/10 cuz u were honest with yourself but u should've explained why u did like the half that u liked.


The whole white people locking up minorities thing was too much 4 sum I would suspect. But if I don't speak on it, no one else will.....pass the joint..

[Lawgick]

Oh really. go talk to your pothead friends about how "the governement" is bringing down your doobie ratio.

LoL...ok.:rolleyes:

[Lawgick]

This is kind of the point here. I was actually motioning toward how you demand that anti-drug sentiments are so wrong, and spell out your flavor for drugs. Then, as to make a point, you tell everyone to think for themselves. It's kind of making me wonder what basis you're thinking on.

I'm not sure, for certain, what your mode is here but if you are trying to encourage people to do drugs, I don't know if you are going to have much luck. If you are trying to emphasize how wonderful drugs are, I'm not sure you are having any luck there either. Chances are most of your audience here is rather blitzed, and I'm not seeing anyone jumping behind any of these points your making.

On topic, whether or not you think Mary Kate would be fun to party with has no baring on whether or not she acted adversely toward Ledger.

My whole point is for people to decide for themselves what's good for them and what's not. I'm not interested in getting people to use drugs just want them to stop letting others think for them.

Sheople annoy me.:rolleyes:


I'm I'm not saying Kate should not pay for her crimes if she committed any(as far as ledger's death) but I felt then need to address all this "She's a uses drugs so she as evil and must die" Statements. Lotta assumptions being made around drug use.

[redfiretruck]

Of course Mary Kate's innocent. The immunity is only a precaution- you can never be too careful in Hollywood.

[Tweek]

Of course Mary Kate's innocent. The immunity is only a precaution- you can never be too careful in Hollywood.

Hollywood would be the least of her problems if incriminating things were to come about.

[therealjohng]

So a 5/10?? We rate everything else here, might as well rate each others posts....I gave yours a 7/10 cuz u were honest with yourself but u should've explained why u did like the half that u liked.


The whole white people locking up minorities thing was too much 4 sum I would suspect. But if I don't speak on it, no one else will.....pass the joint..


10/10 for this post because you nailed it on the head.