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TheMovieManiac
11-01-2008, 11:20 PM
hey guys please forgive me if this has already been posted i didnt have time to read all the old threads and i was so excited i had to post it right away well im on vacation right now out in cali im a vip at the 3 day event called 30 years of terror all about the halloween series if you didnt already know that and day 2 has just ended and i was at one of the Q&A's titled the future of the franchise with malek akkad and the whole time he was talking about how they tried to do halloween 9 and they had 3 different scripts that were all really based around the producers cut of part 6 and it was going to be dark and kinda underground and when it got down to it he said it seemed like it was going to be a straight to dvd release and he didnt want to do that to the franchise his father built so then he started talking about how they got rob zombie to do a remake instead and it did well and blah blah blah and then he said it i just want to let you all know its not over there is a sequel in the makes for sure then there was a million questions going and he couldnt answer anything all he could say was tyler mane will return he said its going to be different and your going to love it he said they are in the works of contracts and all that shit so the only thing thats stone right now is there will be another movie and tyler mane will return as michael myers let me know if you know anymore about this please and let me know what you think

Sonny Corleone
11-01-2008, 11:59 PM
Can't wait! Hopefully this one will be better than Rob Zombie's re-whatever. I mean it was a decent film but not what I expected for a Michael Myers flick.

jaw2929
11-02-2008, 12:02 AM
Am I the only one who thought Mane as Myers, made the character WAY too fucking big and monstrous? The sick thing about the Myers character I thought, was that he was just a normal sized guy. Just a sickly mysterious, evil fucking bastard. But it seemed like in Zombie's remake, he was about 9 feet tall, and 350 pounds, and way too much of a fucking monster. I didn't care for that aspect so much.

Regardless, I'll be seeing whatever Halloween movies are released from here on out, since I'm such a big fan of the character anyway.

APzombie
11-02-2008, 09:29 AM
I agree Trail. Myers is creepy for being a normal looking guy who can blend in. I fucking hated Zombie's remake, and Myers being a monster of a man was just another notch off its respectability.

NuclearMisfit
11-02-2008, 09:41 AM
Yeah and none of that shaky cam nonsense. If you use shaky cam to make it hard to see violence then your movie should be shit canned.

Id like to see another movie, I thought Tyler Mane was pretty cool as a giant guy but that also took from Michael being one of the creepiest fuckers on screen, he wasnt really able to stalk Laurie. He was too big.

g1ng3rsnap9ed
11-02-2008, 09:49 AM
So I have to ask,did he say whether this was a sequel to the remake or a H6 Producer's Cut sequel-I'd only be interested in viewing the latter.

NuclearMisfit
11-02-2008, 10:10 AM
Id like to see a sequel directly from 6 just like people ignore some of the earlier movies past 3, just ignore h20 and Resurrection.

However I dont think id wanna see that incest storyline continued though.

Jig Saw 123
11-02-2008, 10:53 AM
The only things I liked about Rob Zombies Halloween was Michael Myer's mask and Dr. Loomis. Like Trail Blazer had said, Michael was to big and bulky. He was too much like Jason. Michael was always skinny and tall.

TheMovieManiac
11-03-2008, 02:11 PM
So I have to ask,did he say whether this was a sequel to the remake or a H6 Producer's Cut sequel-I'd only be interested in viewing the latter.

no this will be a sequel to the remake they are even talking about a third film already there will never be a sequel to a movie in the past after it was a remake

i loved zombies version but they are saying he will not be the director of the next film if you have seen the movie inside kinda a knockoff of broken in its own way but whatever anyway they guys who directed that film will most likely be the directors of the next halloween film

but some good news we had the man who wrote the original script for h6 before they cut it to pieces which was mainly the producers cut and beileve it or not disney owns all the rights to the myers franchise up to 6 i believe and hes going to bring footage from the convention to them and try and get them to release the rights of the film to anchor bay so they could release the producers cut
on a special edition dvd

Danger^Cart
11-03-2008, 02:17 PM
I must be in the minority who really dug Meyers being a hulking man-mountain. I think it worked really well for the character.

bigred760
11-04-2008, 10:49 AM
There's not a single piece of punctuation in the original post. I started reading it like I had just had 20 red bulls or something.

I liked the big and monstruous Michael Myers, and while the remake wasn't that great, it was still pretty good.

And Tyler Mane needs the work.

miamita
11-04-2008, 03:20 PM
I have mixed feelings about the news of a second Halloween. One I am very glad that they won't be going DTV but on the news that it will pick up around the time the first one ended has me a little bummed to say the very least. I was hoping they would do it a few years after the attacks with Laurie and Annie in college or something.

Miss.007
11-05-2008, 11:20 PM
I hope this Halloween stays true to the originals, although it most likely wont.

TheMovieManiac
11-05-2008, 11:59 PM
I have mixed feelings about the news of a second Halloween. One I am very glad that they won't be going DTV but on the news that it will pick up around the time the first one ended has me a little bummed to say the very least. I was hoping they would do it a few years after the attacks with Laurie and Annie in college or something.

they did not say where it would pick up it may be later intime not sure if i said i would start right at the end of rz's halloween i lied cause i dont

XCoRyX
11-06-2008, 03:53 AM
Don't mind a sequel because I love horror and Halloween and have all my life...don't mind Tyler Mane coming back. Just don't want it to be as bad as Zombies...

MidnightAngel
11-06-2008, 05:09 AM
I wish John Carpenter write and direct Halloween:The Death of Michael Myers and end the Halloween franchise for good! Rob Zombie's Halloween was decent but not excellent.

GodHand
11-09-2008, 04:40 PM
The Halloween Remake is the only movie, aside from Donnie Darko, where I liked the theatrical version more than the director's cut. The rape scene was stupid and the ending of the DC was also silly. I preferred the "concrete," if you will, ending of the theatrical release.

In any case, as a hardcore Halloween fan, I am looking forward to this. Like others have said, I wish they would have expanded on to the end of 6 instead of making those clusterfu*k "sequels" trying to discredit the fantastic Thorn storyline. I liked Michael's madness being linked to an ancient druid curse; and I was not fond how the Halloween remake gave Michael a "personality." That entire child-era was lame, in my opinion. I much prefer the secrecy of Michael, without any rhyme or reason.

LordSimen
11-09-2008, 04:51 PM
The director's cut uses the theatrical cut's ending. Unless you're talking about the Work Print, which is not a director's cut but rather an older cut of the film.

tubbsred
11-09-2008, 05:35 PM
Unlike a lot of people I liked Zombie's however I don't want another movie.

g1ng3rsnap9ed
11-09-2008, 05:43 PM
no this will be a sequel to the remake they are even talking about a third film already there will never be a sequel to a movie in the past after it was a remake

And people wonder why I hate michael bay for remaking A Nightmare on Elm St. We want a sequel with Robert Englund DARN-IT!!

Sorry,couldn't help myself once again.

What about Night of the Living Dead/Dawn of the Dead, though Land wasn't a direct sequel it was in the Dead Family at about the same time (Maybe after) Dawn was remade and a while after Night was.

LordSimen
11-10-2008, 05:31 AM
no this will be a sequel to the remake they are even talking about a third film already there will never be a sequel to a movie in the past after it was a remake


There already has been a sequel that has done this. Land of the Dead was released after both the Dawn and Night remakes.


EDIT:


What about Night of the Living Dead/Dawn of the Dead, though Land wasn't a direct sequel it was in the Dead Family at about the same time (Maybe after) Dawn was remade and a while after Night was.

Sorry, didn't see someone had already pointed this out. My bad.

ilovemovies
11-10-2008, 06:16 AM
Rob Zombie destroyed the Halloween franchise for me. I'm so over the franchise if they are making a sequel to the remake instead of doing what they should and that is ignoring it's existance. :(

snoopmish
11-10-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't mind a sequel as long as they kill the new Laurie (she was annoying as hell)and change the damn dialog to something better the "fuck" every other word. Oh...and keep Zombie away from it.

FireCaptain4
11-10-2008, 12:04 PM
Alright, I have to ask those who say "they should ignore the remake and make a sequel to the original series" how they expect this to be done. Ok, let’s see: last time we left that series



(****SPOILERS************






Laurie was dead, Luda was running around with a chainsaw, and Myers was the star of a reality show.






*********SPOILERS**************)


Yeah, I don't exactly see a sequel to that working in any form. To make it worse, Myers has no motive anymore in that series. Why does "evil come home"? Uh, because it makes for a good tagline...? Myers accomplished his series long goal and unless Laurie's son returns into the plot, I seriously can't imagine where it would go. Space? Da Hood?

Rant over.

shoe1985
11-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Alright, I have to ask those who say "they should ignore the remake and make a sequel to the original series" how they expect this to be done. Ok, let’s see: last time we left that series



(****SPOILERS************






Laurie was dead, Luda was running around with a chainsaw, and Myers was the star of a reality show.






*********SPOILERS**************)


Yeah, I don't exactly see a sequel to that working in any form. To make it worse, Myers has no motive anymore in that series. Why does "evil come home"? Uh, because it makes for a good tagline...? Myers accomplished his series long goal and unless Laurie's son returns into the plot, I seriously can't imagine where it would go. Space? Da Hood?

Rant over.

You pretty much explained why they should let the series die. Really, they will just put themselves in the corner again. Michael got shot in the face, he is dead, lets leave it at that and move on with our lives. Instead, we will get more sequels, then the new hot shot director at the moment will remake Rob Zombie's Halloween because the series went into a hole it could not recover from. The old series is dead, the new series will probably flop because the remake left a bad taste in many people's mouths.

Jig Saw 123
11-10-2008, 09:56 PM
I don't mind Tyler staying as long as Zombie leaves, I would like them to come up with something original for the sequel instead of making another remake.

MisterTwister
11-10-2008, 10:52 PM
Rob Zombie destroyed the Halloween franchise for me. I'm so over the franchise if they are making a sequel to the remake instead of doing what they should and that is ignoring it's existance. :(

LOL. Zombie didn't destoryed the series, at all. It was destoryed once Halloween 5 came along and continued until Busta Rhymes started to use MA moves on Michael Myers. Jesus christ that was terrible.

Despite its flaws Rob Zombie made the first Halloween since 4 that I actually liked. People overexagerate how bad his remake is. It's not that terrible and I'll take Michael's hick family over clown cops, older Michael crying and Busta Rhymes any day of the week.

But he's not doing the sequel so who cares anymore. The "Inside" guys are supposedly doing it but who knows anymore.

APzombie
11-10-2008, 11:29 PM
The problem is that Rob Zombie had no intention of ever doing a Halloween remake. What he did and what he always wanted to do is make a Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake. Every movie he's made has an ensemble of characters that seem to only ever belong to "the Saw Family". It's one thing when you have eccentric grind-house features like The Devils Rejects, it's another when you contaminate a pop-culture phenomenon that is grounded in a world familiar to suburbia, with a calm, normal boy who grew up a psychotic murderer instead of a 7.5 foot tall monster who was bullied at school, whose mother was a stripper, sister a whore, father a belching pervert... oh boo-hoo, love hurts, don't it Mikey?

You can't replace one element of horror with another and call it the same story. It's like remaking Night of the Living Dead, but instead of zombies we get the London Symphony Orchestra who want to dine on their livers with fava beans and chianti. It's so sickeningly different from the source material they should have just gave in and made their own story, because as it is it seems like a disgusting form of milking a franchise beyond the tit being dry- it's like they ran out of milk and instead served water lying to the consumers claiming it came from the cows tits.

In my opinion it is just as bad, if not worse than Halloween: Resurrection.

ilovemovies
11-10-2008, 11:33 PM
Alright, I have to ask those who say "they should ignore the remake and make a sequel to the original series" how they expect this to be done. Ok, let’s see: last time we left that series



(****SPOILERS************






Laurie was dead, Luda was running around with a chainsaw, and Myers was the star of a reality show.






*********SPOILERS**************)


Yeah, I don't exactly see a sequel to that working in any form. To make it worse, Myers has no motive anymore in that series. Why does "evil come home"? Uh, because it makes for a good tagline...? Myers accomplished his series long goal and unless Laurie's son returns into the plot, I seriously can't imagine where it would go. Space? Da Hood?

Rant over.




Why does Laurie have to be dead? I've always thought and still think that it's perfectly feasible for Laurie to still be alive. Yes, she was stabbed and fell down from the top of a building, but her fall could have been helped because she looked liked she was landing on a tree branch. And as for her stabbing, well I still think that if she got medical attention quick enough she might have been okay and could have recovered.

Plus, I'd personally love for both Josh Hartnett and/or Michelle Williams to come back as well.



And I don't agree that the series have been destroyed since Halloween 5. I mean, Halloween 5 was a mediocre movie but Halloween 6 was a guilty pleasure, Halloween H20 was a lot of fun and Halloween: Resurrection wasn't nearly as bad as people said it was IMO. I actually enjoyed the whole reality internet show plot. I thought it was fairly clever and the movie was okay. My only beef with the movie is that Tyra Banks death occurs off screen. I mean, you don't hire somebody like Tyra Banks and kill her off OFF SCREEN! What were they thinking! :D



I don't actually hate Zombie's movie. The first 40 minutes of it were actually decent. But afterwards, when it shifts into remake mode, the movie became stupid and annoying despite a solid performance by Malcolm McDowell.

It's not as bad as say Halloween III. But it has killed my excitement for this franchise. So maybe Zombie didn't technically destroy the franchise but he did kill my excitement and enjoyment of it. I know longer care. I'm completely indifferent now.

MisterTwister
11-10-2008, 11:43 PM
And I don't agree that the series have been destroyed since Halloween 5. I mean, Halloween 5 was a mediocre movie but Halloween 6 was a guilty pleasure, Halloween H20 was a lot of fun and Halloween: Resurrection wasn't nearly as bad as people said it was IMO. I actually enjoyed the whole reality internet show plot. I thought it was fairly clever and the movie was okay. My only beef with the movie is that Tyra Banks death occurs off screen. I mean, you don't hire somebody like Tyra Banks and kill her off OFF SCREEN! What were they thinking! :D



I don't actually hate Zombie's movie. The first 40 minutes of it were actually decent. But afterwards, when it shifts into remake mode, the movie became stupid and annoying despite a solid performance by Malcolm McDowell.

It's not as bad as say Halloween III. But it has killed my excitement for this franchise. So maybe Zombie didn't technically destroy the franchise but he did kill my excitement and enjoyment of it. I know longer care. I'm completely indifferent now.

Halloween 5 was a piece of shit. Not mediocre. It made a mess out of Michael Myers with it's idiotic screenplay and direction. Way to go messing up the end of Halloween 4 Mr. Director. Ugh. Sorry I just hate it ALOT.

Ok we agree (somewhat) on the Halloween remake. Any problems I had with the film were in the remake half of the film. Malcolm McDowell's performance wasn't that good though. I was really disappointed in that part.

shoe1985
11-11-2008, 07:22 AM
At the end of the day, the box office receipts will decide what happens to the series. Honestly, I believe the sequel will make around $20-$25 million. The only people I know who liked Zombie's movie are on message boards, and mostly are his fans. I guess people expected more from him.

Like ilovemovies, the remake left a bad taste in my mouth, and ruined the series for me. H5 was far from the best movie, but it is a guilty pleasure for me. It had a lot of good pieces, it was just rushed too much. Give a few more rewrites, it could have been good. I would watch H5 before the remake any day of the week. H6, we know the story there. H20, cashed in on the popular thing at the moment. H:R, while not a terrible movie, it did not fit within the series. If it had been another movie outside of the Halloween series, I think the response would have been better. After H20 you have so many possible stories you could take the series too.

A. The son is out there.
B. Laurie is still out there.
C. If you wanted to, you could go back to the H6 storyline, which wouldn't happen, but the story could go there if they wanted it too.
D. Something similar to H:R, but with a better story.

There are always stories to tell, it just depends on what direction the Producers wish to take.

MisterTwister
11-11-2008, 07:50 PM
I would watch H5 before the remake any day of the week.

Go ahead and stick the gun in your mouth. I'm not going to be there to clean it up.;)

This sequel will not follow, whatsoever, the storylines in the original series. No John Tate etc.

Cop No. 633
11-11-2008, 08:06 PM
The franchise should die. The only reason the old films worked was because of Donald Pleasance. He was the actor who gave the series a resemblance of class. The sequels were all okay, but none of them ever would as good as the first. Four was the most entertaining of the sequels.

As for Zombie's remake, I found it to be the worst film I saw in 2007. I'm really glad I saw it for free. I would have felt guilty if I had contributed to the box office gross. Malcolm McDowell gave the worst performance of his career. It was really sad to see. Even the first half of the film was crap. The little kid who played Myers couldn't act. The backstory was cliche ridden. There was nothing really "explored" like Zombie had intended. It had the most over-the-top "emotional" scene when Nazareth's Love Hurts begins to play. It was so bad, I thought the film suddenly shifted into a full parody.

Ah, I will say it was funny watching this with my siblings when it came out on DVD. We grew up on the original when we were younger so seeing the remake let us all have a good laugh at Zombie's expense.

shoe1985
11-12-2008, 09:04 AM
Go ahead and stick the gun in your mouth. I'm not going to be there to clean it up.;)

This sequel will not follow, whatsoever, the storylines in the original series. No John Tate etc.

I think we all know a sequel won't happen to the old series. Why move backwards?

If the sequel doesn't do well at the box office, the series is either done or going straight to dvd.

LordSimen
11-12-2008, 02:13 PM
Rob Zombie's remake was a flawed but good film. Nowhere near as atrocious as some of the Halloween sequels, namely Resurrection.

MisterTwister
11-12-2008, 02:39 PM
I think we all know a sequel won't happen to the old series. Why move backwards?

If the sequel doesn't do well at the box office, the series is either done or going straight to dvd.

I'm with you guys though with wanting to see a sequel to the original series (namely Halloween 6).

The Halloween series will never die. Even if it goes Direct to DVD it will keep on coming. But I doubt it will ever go straight to DVD.

TheMovieManiac
11-12-2008, 03:21 PM
i dont see why everyone is suprised that theres a sequel they are starting all the horror series over halloween, nightmare on elm street ,friday the 13th ect not just 1 movies a whole new series i heard mears was already on to do a sequel for the new friday the 13th

and to the previous post about the dead series being sequels after a remake has been done wrong none of them movies where tied together same director and dead in the title thats about it

and also malek akkad said they have tried and tried again and even tried again to get jamie lee back she said *quote* ive done 4 of these movies and i will not do anymore

FireCaptain4
04-11-2009, 02:56 PM
Like the Halloween franchise, this thread just got resurrected!

Anyway, RZ apparently just finished filming Halloween 2 and sent in the very first official image of Michael Myers, rocking his mask (what's left of it, anyway) and body damage: http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15862

Man... looks like he really did get shot in face.

Dr.Frankenstein
04-16-2009, 06:30 PM
Wow, Zombie has "H2" or "Halloween : The Devil Walks Among Us" (Zombie's pick for title) in post production already. That was what 2 months? fast-looks and sounds from all I've seen thus far-super cool.-can't wait!

FireCaptain4
04-16-2009, 07:14 PM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15900

Another Myers pic. Apparently this is of the "Halloween 2 'don't call it a remake'" portion of the film. Or the first 10-15 minutes.

RZ himself says:
Is this movie a remake of Halloween 2 ?"

The answer is no. This movie has nothing to do with the movie that came out back in 1981. The only thing slightly the same is my film has a brief hospital scene at the top of the film and even that is 100% different. These are all new characters and all new situations. This is not a remake of a sequel, this is the continuing story of the Halloween I started. So hopefully that clears up that confusion.

Now I present a killer moment from the above mentioned hospital scene.

Hey. Guess what? This has Malcolm McDowell in it. All RZ has to say is that, and I'll show up even if this is the biggest pile of poo since... well, RZ's '07 "Halloween."

poopontheshoes7
04-16-2009, 11:24 PM
Zombies film worked much better then it should have imo, considering how much he re-worked the backstory. He in no way destroyed the franchise. Imo, Having Busta Rhymes karate kick Michael like a damn ninja is the lowest the series can possibly go...

Im curious about this sequel, I wanna see where Zombie takes it.

drc5145
04-17-2009, 01:19 AM
The more I think it, the more I realize Zack Snyder's Dawn of The Dead, Gore Verbinski's The Ring and the 1/2 of Zombie's Halloween have been the only horror remakes I've actually grown to like over the past years.

Which is actually a more exciting thought because I liked what Zombie did for the 1st half, but treading the old ground from the original is what did the remake in.

Now that's he's pretty much got free reign and less pressure to remake the sequel and do something original right off the bat (and hopefully NOT treading any of the old ground) ...I'm pretty intrigued and interested.

drc5145
04-17-2009, 01:35 AM
Hurm. I just checked out Rob Zombie's blog and he posted a video from FEARnet's set visit.

P.S. I checked on the imdb boards and they've mentioned that apparently the hobo looking dude at the 0:17 mark of the video may be Myers. It could easily just be a regular shot of Tyler Mane though...

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.viewcustom&friendId=28735418&blogId=483574685&swapped=true

FireCaptain4
04-17-2009, 08:27 AM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15918

The latest BD article following H2: Halloween 2: The Devil Walks Amoung Us (so many titles?) has a pic of Myers unmasked and close up...

Myers looks like a hobo. A scary and evil hobo, if I ever saw one.

There's also this from Mr. Disgusting:
...but we've also learned that the trailer for Rob Zombie's sequel will be playing in front of prints of Lionsgate's Crank 2 only in theaters in New York and Los Angeles (boo!). What does this mean exactly? It means that all day tomorrow you, me and the rest of the horrorverse are going to be scouring YouTube and the web for an early look.

FireCaptain4
04-19-2009, 08:47 PM
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15931

^ Well, if you head over to that link, there's the very first footage of Rob Zombie's "Halloween [something or another]" sequel presented by ET.

I don't know what to think yet, we don't get to see much, but those who enjoyed the first one should be jazzed by what they see since it has the same look and feel of that one.

XCoRyX
04-19-2009, 10:29 PM
So for the few people who went to see Crank, did anybody see the teaser?

Bourne101
04-24-2009, 03:30 PM
Here's the first trailer:

http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1810061258/trailer

And it looks FUCKING TERRIBLE! And this is coming from someone who enjoyed Rob Zombie's Halloween.

poopontheshoes7
04-24-2009, 03:51 PM
Guh, this looks stupid. This also coming from a fan of the first one.

The whole mother aspect looks completely idiotic. What is he, Jason? And why does Michaels mom look like one of Dracula's Brides?

I dont know. I dont want to be quick to judge because I ended up liking the first film when I was worried to death about the backstory, but this looks really bad.

APzombie
04-24-2009, 04:04 PM
not to go into full fledged AINT talkback or IMBD mode but....

That trailer made me laugh so fucking hard. what a crock of shit Zombie has created in the Michael Myers mythos. The mother angle looks profoundly stupid, a tepid way to showcase his wife yet again, it looks like a prepubescent with the cinematic vision of a alcohol/pcp induced metal music video vomited over celluloid.

and of course, the title isn't nearly as interesting as promised.

i always have hopes he can do something right but i've had it. fuck Rob Zombie.

LordSimen
04-24-2009, 04:04 PM
My god, that trailer looks epic. I can't fuckin' wait. :D Movie looks amazing.

chinton
04-24-2009, 05:58 PM
The trailer is standard horror trailer blah but the mother angle takes it up to a whole new level. Maybe its genius in the film but the mother ghost/hallucination look profoundly cheesy. Why is she in all white? I got a weird hot topic vibe from her.

drc5145
04-24-2009, 10:16 PM
It was going well for awhile. I liked adding in the hoodie for Myers. But you guys beat me to the punch...When the pasty-white mother showed up I was "WTF?" and not in a good way.

I hope it works way better in the film...

Mystique963
04-24-2009, 11:31 PM
Okay, I am gladly saying that I can't fucking wait. I LOVED the remake and Zombie is going to kick the shit out of this one.

The chick in the white would be his mother and she's obviously a halucination/angel-like. Can't expect Zombie to make a movie without his lovely wife now could we? :)

Bourne101
04-24-2009, 11:59 PM
The whole mother angle is completely fucking stupid and completely contradicts what happened in the first movie. In this one, she is telling him to kill innocent people. WHAT THE FUCK? In the first movie she was shocked and devastated when he killed his sister and the others, and eventually killed herself because she was so depressed, shocked and ashamed that she let her son become what he had become. This whole Jason style "mommy telling him what to do" is complete nonsense and completely takes away what makes Michael Myers scary. What made Michael scary in the original was that he had no motives or reasoning. He was just a normal little kid who one night flipped a switch and killed his sister. Rob Zombie's Halloween did a decent job of retelling the origin, giving Zombie's own little twist to it, but this sequel seems to be taking it overboard. I was actually pretty excited to see how this would turn out, and unfortunately it looks like absolute 100% shit.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 12:12 AM
The whole mother angle is completely fucking stupid and completely contradicts what happened in the first movie. In this one, she is telling him to kill innocent people. WHAT THE FUCK? In the first movie she was shocked and devastated when he killed his sister and the others, and eventually killed herself because she was so depressed, shocked and ashamed that she let her son become what he had become.

In this movie she's an hallucination. She isn't actually his mother. It doesn't contradict anything, only continues to show Myer's descent into his own madness.

snoopmish
04-25-2009, 12:16 AM
Ya know....as much as I hated the remake, I was really hoping that this film would let go of that and move forward like a straight up Halloween flick. Michael stalking and killing his prey and the first 30 secs seemed to be that. I was thinking 'Ok...maybe not as bad as I thought it would be." THEN....the fucking psycho Gandalf the White talking to Mikey showed up and there went any hope.

The HD version made it even worse.

someguy
04-25-2009, 12:19 AM
How about we just say that the mother angle looks stupid and doesn't have any subtlety whatsoever. I'm not saying that it has to be subtle, but it could be a little less obvious and cheesy as Michael's mom being manifested as a goth following Michael around at all times.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 12:21 AM
How about we just say that the mother... doesn't have any subtlety whatsoever.


I agree with this part, most definitely. But that's a good thing in my eyes. Subtlety is incredibly overrated in my personal opinion.

snoopmish
04-25-2009, 12:22 AM
How about we just say that the mother angle looks stupid and doesn't have any subtlety whatsoever. I'm not saying that it has to be subtle, but it could be a little less obvious and cheesy as Michael's mom being manifested as a goth following Michael around at all times.


Very nice diplomatic way of saying a massive understatement. :) Good job. I need to be a bit more diplomatic in my hatred of the idea...lol.

someguy
04-25-2009, 12:36 AM
I agree with this part, most definitely. But that's a good thing in my eyes. Subtlety is incredibly overrated in my personal opinion.

But you can't be too obvious about things because it ends up being lame. It's the same with subtlety, get too subtle and you'll end up losing people altogether. For me personally (and a number of people in this thread too) the aspect of his mom hanging over his shoulder at all times telling him to kill is too obvious. I was already annoyed with her by the time the trailer ended and she was only in half of the preview.

I was hoping that H2 would be what The Devil's Rejects was to House of 1000 Corpses but that preview is making me think otherwise.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 12:41 AM
That line has yet to be crossed as far as this movie's concerned if you ask me. She looks wonderful, she sounds awesome and has some great lines. I like her presence in the trailer and I definitely feel she will do wonders for the final movie.

someguy
04-25-2009, 12:46 AM
Well all of what you're saying there is opinionative/subjective. So far it looks like you're in the minority with that thought, but I guess the only way we'll find out is in August.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 12:49 AM
I'm use to that by now.

APzombie
04-25-2009, 02:46 AM
I'm use to that by now.

and i admire the hell out of it, i'd have given up defending it all by now :)

SteeleDude
04-25-2009, 01:01 PM
and i admire the hell out of it, i'd have given up defending it all by now :)

I'm not sure what there is to admire there. It's clear he is holding onto his adamant defense of the movie no matter how bad it gets. It's like if there was a guy who loved the Titanic so much while everyone else told him it sucked, yet he kept defending the beauty of the ship even as it sank into the depths of the ocean. That's admirable? I'll give him stubborn. Vehemently stubborn.

Mr. Fred Krueger
04-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Looks...interesting. I'll give Zombie a chance here and not judge anything before I see the flick, considering the fact that I've loved everything he's done thus far (the Halloween remake surprised the hell out of me). I'll admit though, the mother thing is throwing me off a bit. I instantly got a Mrs. Voorhees vibe from Sheri Moon. :-\

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 04:45 PM
I'm not sure what there is to admire there. It's clear he is holding onto his adamant defense of the movie no matter how bad it gets. It's like if there was a guy who loved the Titanic so much while everyone else told him it sucked, yet he kept defending the beauty of the ship even as it sank into the depths of the ocean. That's admirable? I'll give him stubborn. Vehemently stubborn.

There is no sinking ship, just an epically awesome looking movie being trashed for no good reason. The more and more footage we see of this movie, the better it gets. It sounds to me like your ship of negativity is sinking, so you have chosen to get louder and louder to try and balance it out. ;)

project 86
04-25-2009, 05:27 PM
i may be alone but i think the problem with zombie's Halloween movies is he tries to humanize a monster. We don't want to see him as a child and abused childhood it takes away Myers aura about him it is like Nolan showing joker child hood flashbacks.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 05:46 PM
We don't want to see him as a child and abused childhood it takes away Myers aura about him it is like Nolan showing joker child hood flashbacks.

Whose this "we?" I surely do want to see that. In fact, I enjoyed seeing it when he put it on the screen.

snoopmish
04-25-2009, 05:55 PM
Whose this "we?" I surely do want to see that. In fact, I enjoyed seeing it when he put it on the screen.


I'll join the "we" and I agree with the Joker comment.

LordSimen
04-25-2009, 06:03 PM
It in no way would be like showing Joker's childhood flash backs, as what made Joker into who he was was not his childhood. It'd be much more akin to showing what event transpired to turn him into the clown prince of crime in the first place- Which is what Burton's Batman film did and in my opinion featured a vastly superior version of the Joker than Nolan's.

Bourne101
05-08-2009, 05:06 PM
http://joblo.com/images_arrownews/h2-one-sheet.jpg

That is one of the worst posters I have ever seen.

Cop No. 633
05-08-2009, 05:39 PM
Agreed. It's unimaginative. Which is a word I would use to describe most of Rob Zombie's career as a director. I bet he's going to blog about it saying, "I don't give a fuck about the advertising of my film. So that poster has nothing to do with me, so fuck it."

Which to me is weird because as a filmmaker, I'd be interested in every aspect of my film... from pre-production to production to post and definitely even to the marketing of the film. Even if it's not your department, you should still keep an eye out to make sure they're not fucking over your movie.

Tagia_Romero
05-08-2009, 06:18 PM
Meh. I'll still see it, given I am one of the seemingly few insane minority who actually enjoyed the Uncut version.

Sgizzy316
05-08-2009, 06:20 PM
Meh. I'll still see it, given I am one of the seemingly few insane minority who actually enjoyed the Uncut version.

I will definitely see this, the poster doesn't look good but I like the trailer and the first one, uncut was awesome

snoopmish
05-08-2009, 07:03 PM
This poster has me a bit worried that "momma's ghost" has a very big role in the film. NOT liking anything I am seeing of this.

Bourne101
05-08-2009, 07:05 PM
Yeah, this whole ghost thing is a really bad idea.

drc5145
05-08-2009, 09:15 PM
That's the poster???

That's some really weak shit if that's true. That looks like something I would see on the cover of a direct-to-DVD movie, not a theatrical poster.

It looks worse than that crappy poster for The Road which (I think) ended up being fake.

While being only a unofficial poster, At least this one actually has some imagination and effort behind it.

http://content8.flixster.com/photo/11/60/85/11608574_gal.jpg

And really, they should have just stuck with this one. Simple and interesting.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_KoKhBdguV54/SdKS2oJiS_I/AAAAAAAAADs/33r-ZIzfhhQ/s400/h2-poster-halloween.jpg

ilovemovies
05-10-2009, 07:49 AM
This movie looks like it's going to be so bad that it'll make the first one look like a masterpiece by comparison.