WTF? Steven Spielberg and Will Smith to remake....Oldboy?! [Archive]

Terror Australis

11-07-2008, 12:55 AM

Well, the title pretty much says it all. Read on....

Spielberg, Smith in talks for 'Oldboy'
Pair may kidnap remake of Korean drama
By MICHAEL FLEMING

Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are in early discussions to collaborate on a remake of Chan Wook-park's "Oldboy." DreamWorks is in the process of securing the remake rights, and the new pic will be distributed by Universal.
In the 2003 Korean original, a man gets kidnapped and held in a shabby cell for 15 years without explanation. Suddenly, he's released and given money, a cell phone and clothes and is set on a path to discover who destroyed his life so he can take revenge.

Spielberg had been looking for an opportunity to make a film with Smith, who would play the kidnapped man if all the pieces fall into place. Spielberg is looking for a writer to begin the development process.

The film was originally set at U and then found its way to Mandate.

Hmmm....I'm not sure what to make of this. Oldboy is a terrific, one-of-a-kind film that probably wouldn't work if it was remade. Although I must admit that the idea of Spielberg and Smith does sound interesting, even though I would have never though of them doing this type of film. Will it work? Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure. I'll just have to wait and see.

What do you guys think? Although I'm pretty sure what I know you are all going to say.:D

LordSimen

11-07-2008, 01:03 AM

Oldboy's one of my favorite movies ever made and I approve of this. Will Smith is an incredibly charismatic actor who I personally think has the talent and chops to pull off the part, and Spielberg is one of the greatest American directors still alive today so honestly it has potential to be good.

The only thing I'm worried about is them changing the ending. Spielberg hasn't had a downer ending since Private Ryan or Schiendler's list and I'm not sure how the American public would take to Smith... Erm...

***SPOILERS***

Fucking his own daughter and cutting out his own tongue.

Terror Australis

11-07-2008, 01:27 AM

....or eating a live octopus:D.

Anyways do I have the script to the remake back when Justin Lin was going to direct it. They probably won't use that script since the draft I had was done in 2005, so they will most likely go with a whole new script. In case you were wondering....yes, they did keep the same ending. Although it does have some small tweeks that are a little different from the original's.

Powerslave

11-07-2008, 01:42 AM

Well that's the most profoundly bizarre movie news I've heard in a while...

And to clarify, yeah, this is a really bad idea. Spielberg is completely wrong for this.

KcMsterpce

11-07-2008, 02:07 AM

Bad idea.

Spielberg will NOT make OLDBOY the way it needs to be done. He'll make it politically correct, and very audience friendly. He'll do to OLDBOY what he did to Kubrick's vision in A.I., which is dumb it down, and slap on a senseless "feel goody" ending.

Even SPR was a "downer" ending for the sole purpose of increasing the melodrama of it all. That's the most acceptable - and expected - way to end that movie.

I do not agree with this. This won't be OLDBOY, it will probably be more like "Happy Man Takes Revenge But Then Becomes Nice and Everyone Shares Ice Cream Together".

The Postmaster General

11-07-2008, 02:16 AM

I bet it'll be changed up from....

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---------------being something incestuous with a sister to having done a father wrong------------------------------------------sdfadskgfjldsakhjglsdhjg;lkdsg
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END SPOILERS

I can't see Spielberg remaking this straight up. Not at all.

Tweek

11-07-2008, 02:36 AM

Yeah. I definitely can't see the big reveal happening in this version! But I Am Legend showed (me, at least) that Smith can do the isolated fellow gone mental thing. And he doesn't have to go "Aw hell naw!" (hides)

....or eating a live octopus:D.

That shit was hardcore. The mother fucker was huge.

therealjohng

11-07-2008, 02:50 AM

Private Ryan or Schiendler's list

How the fuck are either of these downer endings.

KcMsterpce

11-07-2008, 02:54 AM

That shit was hardcore. The mother fucker was huge.

That's what SHE said. Hahahaha!

When he got an award for best actor, he thanked the octopus during his acceptance speech.

DaMovieMan

11-07-2008, 02:55 AM

Wow is this bad. Smith has been going down in my eyes big time since his mainstream blockbusters started to suck (I Am Legend, Hancock) and his sappy Oscar baiters reached a new level of desperate. I'm not surprised with this. The role doesn't suit him one bit but of course that doesn't matter.
I don't know what the hell Spielberg is on or if that Southpark episode got to him but he's just not doing the right thing here. Whatever, the good thing with news like this is you can ignore it and never watch the film :)

Tweek

11-07-2008, 03:00 AM

That's what SHE said. Hahahaha!

BOO!

When he got an award for best actor, he thanked the octopus during his acceptance speech.

Nice. Nice. :D Many LOLs go to that.

SAI

11-07-2008, 03:08 AM

AAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH.

For fuck sake. Oldboy isn't broken, don't try and fix it.

And, much as I like him, Spielberg is utterly wrong for this project, as is Smith. Horrible idea.

Zizou

11-07-2008, 05:22 AM

Will Smith's goofy, clownish persona is not suited to this film. He's a children's entertainer. Men in Black and I,Robot are the only two films i've liked from him, and both were family blockbusters. Oldboy cannot be done in the same vein.

And as for Spielberg, who cares? I just want someone to get a move on with Jurassic Park IV.

Cosimo

11-07-2008, 05:34 AM

terrible idea and i doubt it will happen

FilmJunkie1114

11-07-2008, 07:52 AM

I'll believe it when I see it. I tend to enjoy Spielberg's stuff, but he's as bad as Quentin Tarantino about suggesting multiple projects that never come to fruition. At this point I've heard he's going to be doing another Jurassic Park, a Lincoln Biopic, a film with Sacha Cohen about the Chicago Seven, a Ghost in the Shell Movie, a Tin-Tin trilogy with Peter Jackson, and countless other minor suggestions and none have been produced yet.

Brendan M.

11-07-2008, 07:58 AM

APzombie

11-07-2008, 08:29 AM

I agree with most schmoes, this is a bad idea. Spielberg is amazing, but this is not his kind of movie. Its the differences between apples and pizza. I could never see the ending with Will Smith and Spielberg attached.

outsyder

11-07-2008, 08:46 AM

Will Smith can be a good actor, but he's incredibly miscast in this role if true.

someguy

11-07-2008, 09:53 AM

It's a step up from the previous remake attached to Nic Cage and the director of Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift but my god it is still an awful idea.

Hotbox

11-07-2008, 10:03 AM

Remake's are doing my head in. Spielberg should no better after Hook. I hope they don't do it. Oldboy should stay as it is. There was also news on another Planet of the Apes reboot.

FireCaptain4

11-07-2008, 10:03 AM

Ah man, I'm hoping this doesn't actually form into anything official. Oldboy doesn't need to be remade just because it's foreign and not in English- it's a good as it could possibly be. Hey, I love Spielberg, but why doesn't he make "Lincoln" or "The Chicago 7" (which I guess Greengrass is making now) instead of wasting his time on something we've already seen. There's no way Spielberg could make the film even half as dark as the original.

Count me out of this.

The Postmaster General

11-07-2008, 10:08 AM

I almost feel like the only reason anyone wants to remake this movie is so they can recreate the corridor hammer scene. It's like a director's wet dream at this point.

Rant

11-07-2008, 11:56 AM

I have a feeling that if this goes down, it will be just like what 'The Departed' did to 'Infernal Affairs'. Overshadows a great (pretty much perfect) recently released flick that did not, whatsoever need a fucking American remake. Even at the Academy Awards they only mentioned it in passing and then fucked up the god damned name. Hollywood has no respect.

D.B. Cooper

11-07-2008, 12:00 PM

Worst idea in the history of bad ideas.

If this gets made il never watch it.

Signed: Mark

poopontheshoes7

11-07-2008, 12:16 PM

Wow, Im suprised at all the negativity. Oldboy is one of my favorite movies and Im not thrilled about the idea of a remake either, but I'd rather it be in the hands of Spielberg then some fucking wannabe action director like the Tokyo Drift guy.

P.S.

Hook rocked.

adamjohnson

11-07-2008, 12:18 PM

Hey, you know, Spielberg PRODUCES alot of movies he doesnt direct. I didnt see where it specifically said his role was as director.

LordSimen

11-07-2008, 02:22 PM

How the fuck are either of these downer endings.

Everyone dies at the end of Saving Private Ryan. The end is the survivor crying over their graves. How is that not a downer ending?

As for Schiendler's list, even though good things happen in the film, I wouldn't describe any event in that movie as anything but a downer, including it's ending.

Tweek

11-07-2008, 02:35 PM

"The Chicago 7" (which I guess Greengrass is making now)

WHAT?! NO!!!

:mad:

Zizou

11-07-2008, 02:51 PM

LordSimen

11-07-2008, 02:56 PM

I consider The Departed the better film. I found Infernal Affairs quite boring in comparison.

Ditto. And Infernal Affairs is a great film in it's own right, but compared to The Departed... It's chop liver.

Bourne101

11-07-2008, 03:47 PM

What? Remake Oldboy? The film is already popular in the US and Canada. This isn't one of those cases where they remake it because people are too lazy to read subtitles, Oldboy is a classic and people know it. But if they are going to remake it, I'm glad to see some great individuals are potentially going to be involved.

Bourne101

11-07-2008, 03:51 PM

outsyder

11-07-2008, 05:16 PM

Infernal Affairs was never that great to begin with. Don't get me wrong, it was interesting and an otherwise decent action flick, but Oldboy is incredibly unique and a much better film overall.

Bourne101

11-07-2008, 05:33 PM

Infernal Affairs was never that great to begin with. Don't get me wrong, it was interesting and an otherwise decent action flick, but Oldboy is incredibly unique and a much better film overall.

.

Brendan M.

11-07-2008, 05:36 PM

I strongly disagree in regards to Infernal Affairs not being that great, although I did feel the same way when I first saw it, I learned to appreciate it more the second time around. After I accepted the cultural differences of both films, I learned to enjoy both The Departed and Infernal Affairs equally.

The problem with remaking Oldboy is this is not a film like Infernal Affairs. Both the movie's story and visuals are so unique and so personal to the director's style, that I don't think anyone has a chance in hell in emulating it. Park has earned his right in being considered one of the best auteurs of his time and not even Spielberg can take that away from him. Spielberg is a genius when it comes to where to put and move the camera to make it most effective, but Park Chan-Wook has an amazing attention to detail, and everything down to the cellphone's ringtone serves a unique purpose in the film. He could release a feature length film with zero dialogue in it and it still could be extremely captivating. I think every review that refers to him as a modern day Hitchcock and Orson Welles are spot on. Imagine if they did a remake to Citizen Kane, or even worst think back to the remake of Psycho that did come out. A remake of Oldboy, no matter who is behind it, is the equivalent of that.

Another thing in regards to Infernal Affairs and why The Departed worked was because the story transcended well into the Boston setting. I don't think you can retell the story of Oldboy though with that kind of unique stamp.

arto_j

11-07-2008, 07:17 PM

"The Chicago 7" (which I guess Greengrass is making now)

Last i heard, Ben Stiller was directing that.

As for this, Will Smith isn't a bad choice. If you want a big movie star to add box office appeal to a story this dark, he's a damn good choice. He can act, he can bring the people in, he's a solid leading man. I approve.

Spielberg however, fuck no. This is so far out of his comfort zone, and at the point of his career he's at I really don't see him changing his ways. I wouldn't be surprised if lovely little aliens turned out to be the kidnappers.

Terror Australis

11-07-2008, 07:32 PM

Hey, do you think you can hook me up with this script, or direct me in a place that has it?

No probs. PM me your email address and I'll send it over.

Le_Big_Mac

11-07-2008, 08:56 PM

War of the Worlds, Indiana Jones 4 and now Oldboy. Old Stevie is losing it.

xseanymacx

11-07-2008, 10:59 PM

[QUOTE=Brendan M.;2902255
The problem with remaking Oldboy is this is not a film like Infernal Affairs. Both the movie's story and visuals are so unique and so personal to the director's style, that I don't think anyone has a chance in hell in emulating it. Park has earned his right in being considered one of the best auteurs of his time and not even Spielberg can take that away from him. Spielberg is a genius when it comes to where to put and move the camera to make it most effective, but Park Chan-Wook has an amazing attention to detail, and everything down to the cellphone's ringtone serves a unique purpose in the film. He could release a feature length film with zero dialogue in it and it still could be extremely captivating. I think every review that refers to him as a modern day Hitchcock and Orson Welles are spot on. Imagine if they did a remake to Citizen Kane, or even worst think back to the remake of Psycho that did come out. A remake of Oldboy, no matter who is behind it, is the equivalent of that.
[/QUOTE]

I very much feel this needed to be quoted. I absolutely love Oldboy and it's at its best as part of the Revenge Trilogy. Obviously, it is an amazing film that certainly can stand alone...it shouldn't because that wasn't the intention. It should be embraced with the other 2 and none of them an Americanization.

Danger^Cart

11-07-2008, 11:13 PM

Am I the only one who finds modern Spielberg a bit visually stale?

poopontheshoes7

11-07-2008, 11:19 PM

Am I the only one who finds modern Spielberg a bit visually stale?

I dont agree. Minority Report, AI, War of the Worlds, Munich...all wonderfully visual films. The criminally underrated AI especially.

The Postmaster General

11-07-2008, 11:23 PM

Brendan M. also laid out the only part that bothers me about this as a remake. I think Spielberg/Smith can make a great revenge movie, but not Oldboy, because Oldboy is unique for reasons different than Spielberg's sensibilities.

project 86

11-07-2008, 11:28 PM

Steven isn't my problem its will he is not right for this role i would of got gary oldman i can picture him doing the role justice

The Clif

11-08-2008, 12:05 AM

watch them ruin the ending..its gonna be so watered down

Brendan M.

11-08-2008, 02:34 AM

Raimo69

11-08-2008, 03:33 AM

I could work but I don't see Will Smith making it good.

Tweek

11-08-2008, 05:00 AM

I just tried to picture the climax to Oldboy but with Will Smith in place of Min-sik Choi. I couldn't help but laugh out loud to myself.

"I beg you. Woo-Jin, if you want me to be your dog, dawg... I will."

lol

While I don't agree he'd suck horribly, I don't imagine him topping Min-sik Choi either.

If they did that part when the keep it on the protagonist (they very well couldn't call him Oh Dae-Su) for some time it might get a laugh out of more than the "villain" if you catch my drift... :p

Who would they get to play the antagonist, do you reckon/predict?

Terror Australis

11-08-2008, 05:59 AM

Who would they get to play the antagonist, do you reckon/predict?

I'm thinking either Tom Cruise or Johnny Depp.

adamjohnson

11-08-2008, 10:17 AM

Hey, you know, Spielberg PRODUCES alot of movies he doesnt direct. I didnt see where it specifically said his role was as director.

Again.

someguy

11-08-2008, 11:34 AM

Well thank god producers have zero input in how a film works then, phew we dodged a bullet there.

bigred760

11-08-2008, 12:27 PM

Spielberg can do this; hell, he's proven he can just about anything. And Will Smith has proven he can do drama (Ali, Pursuit of Happyness) and action.

Plus, with the success of Scorcese remake of an Asian movie, The Departed, I'm surprised this hasn't been done sooner.

Lazy Boy

11-08-2008, 12:38 PM

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1103/1226045375302ii7.jpg

Since I don't care about the original film in any way, shape or form, this news doesn't really get my blood boiling to start the day.

shawn-o

11-08-2008, 03:03 PM

i hate this because...

Will Smith is totally NOT RIGHT for this part. I totally disagree that he cant be a dramatic actor. The Pursuit of Happiness was ok and Ali fucking sucked balls. He's a funny, carefree actor. He isnt fit for this type of material. I remember the 2nd half of Hancock and how seriouse it got and how laughable I thought it was throwing Will Smith into seriouse issues. He cant do drama. He cant do the things he will need to do in this movie.

Infernal Affairs cant even be compared to Oldboy. Oldboy is super popular in the US. It works on its very own strength. Plus it came out like what...4-5 years ago. Do we really need it remade now? Dont think so. I guess sense Spielberg fucked up with Indy 4 and War of the Worlds he has to go steal awesome shit from North Korea. No supertalented director should ever feel the need to do that.

I love Spielberg's work...but he's being a washout right now and if he fucks this movie up. I swear I am going to california and taking his life away

bigred760

11-08-2008, 03:16 PM

Infernal Affairs cant even be compared to Oldboy. Oldboy is super popular in the US. It works on its very own strength. Plus it came out like what...4-5 years ago. Do we really need it remade now? Dont think so. I guess sense Spielberg fucked up with Indy 4 and War of the Worlds he has to go steal awesome shit from North Korea. No supertalented director should ever feel the need to do that.

First off, Oldboy is not "super popular" in the U.S. I seriously doubt you could find that many non-movie buffs who have seen it or even heard of it. Every time I mention its name, people don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

And Spielberg didn't "fuck up" with Indy IV or War of the Worlds. . . Indy made $317 million in the U.S. alone and $468 million in international box office receipts. WotW made $234 million domestically and $357 million overseas. And I would think a Spielberg Oldboy would be more along the lines of Munich and Saving Private Ryan . . . not the Indiana Jones flicks or WotW.

This remake, whether Spielberg directs it or not, will not take anything away from the original . . . which was made in South Korea, not North.

Brendan M.

11-08-2008, 04:26 PM

Shia Labouf is rumored to play Mi-Do

Tweek

11-08-2008, 06:32 PM

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1103/1226045375302ii7.jpg

Wow...:D

First off, Oldboy is not "super popular" in the U.S. I seriously doubt you could find that many non-movie buffs who have seen it or even heard of it. Every time I mention its name, people don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

I know, right?

It's one of those movies that if I start talking about it or mention that it's Korean, even... Some people get a bored look in their eyes or they make an excuse to leave the conversation.

Smiert Spionam

11-08-2008, 09:05 PM

I honestly can't see Steven Spielberg doing a film containing incest on any level whatsoever. Period. So the very idea that these two, as talented as they are, wanna remake this film is reason to be rightfully infuriated if you were a fan of the original film.....

Powerslave

11-08-2008, 10:24 PM

First off, Oldboy is not "super popular" in the U.S. I seriously doubt you could find that many non-movie buffs who have seen it or even heard of it. Every time I mention its name, people don't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Oldboy isn't really "super popular" in the US, but it is probably one of the more popular non-martial arts Asian imports of recent years. Personally, I've come across a fair amount of people who've seen it or know of it.

Brendan M.

11-09-2008, 02:24 AM

Oldboy isn't really "super popular" in the US, but it is probably one of the more popular non-martial arts Asian imports of recent years. Personally, I've come across a fair amount of people who've seen it or know of it.

Yeah, you're not going to run into anyone who knows about Oldboy unless they're a fan of asian cinema or have a friend that is who forced them to watch it.

But if you walk up to any young person from South Korea and ask them, they're most likely bound to get very excited.

echo_bravo

11-09-2008, 10:13 AM

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/1103/1226045375302ii7.jpg

Since I don't care about the original film in any way, shape or form, this news doesn't really get my blood boiling to start the day.

As I was scrolling down this thread and saw this pic I nearly busted my gut. Fucking hilarious pic right there!!! Thanks for making my day.

blankpage

11-09-2008, 12:42 PM

I'm sort of conflicted on this one. On one hand, I think "Old Boy" is an absolute masterpiece...and on the other, Spielberg is my favourite filmmaker. I can see him doing a very interesting take on this material, for sure, albeit very different from the original. Different enough that some of the differences may irk a lot of "Old Boy" fans. I think Smith is underrated when it comes to his acting abilities, as well. So, I don't know...we'll have to see when more news is released I guess.

PR0J3KT M

11-10-2008, 07:17 AM

i really liked the trailer..

and i like will smith overall.

bigred760

11-10-2008, 11:26 AM

Oldboy isn't really "super popular" in the US, but it is probably one of the more popular non-martial arts Asian imports of recent years. Personally, I've come across a fair amount of people who've seen it or know of it.

It's no doubt a great movie - I loved it. But I think it's an exaggeration saying that an American remake is bullshit because the original is THAT popular in the United States. Everyone I've talked to who has seen has said it's amazing, but that is a small number of people.

A remake would draw attention to the original and therefore would probably make the original more popular.

DME

11-10-2008, 11:38 AM

The problem with remaking Oldboy is this is not a film like Infernal Affairs. Both the movie's story and visuals are so unique and so personal to the director's style, that I don't think anyone has a chance in hell in emulating it. Park has earned his right in being considered one of the best auteurs of his time and not even Spielberg can take that away from him. Spielberg is a genius when it comes to where to put and move the camera to make it most effective, but Park Chan-Wook has an amazing attention to detail, and everything down to the cellphone's ringtone serves a unique purpose in the film. He could release a feature length film with zero dialogue in it and it still could be extremely captivating. I think every review that refers to him as a modern day Hitchcock and Orson Welles are spot on. Imagine if they did a remake to Citizen Kane, or even worst think back to the remake of Psycho that did come out. A remake of Oldboy, no matter who is behind it, is the equivalent of that.

Another thing in regards to Infernal Affairs and why The Departed worked was because the story transcended well into the Boston setting. I don't think you can retell the story of Oldboy though with that kind of unique stamp.

Word. And as for Will, I like the dude as an actor, he's definitely talented, but I don't think he's ever really transformed for a role. He's very much in the Tom Hanks "everyman" mold in most of his more dramatic roles. This character would call for a sort of darkness and madness he's never really approached before, I think.

shawn-o

11-10-2008, 03:22 PM

First off, Oldboy is not "super popular" in the U.S. I seriously doubt you could find that many non-movie buffs who have seen it or even heard of it. Every time I mention its name, people don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

And Spielberg didn't "fuck up" with Indy IV or War of the Worlds. . . Indy made $317 million in the U.S. alone and $468 million in international box office receipts. WotW made $234 million domestically and $357 million overseas. And I would think a Spielberg Oldboy would be more along the lines of Munich and Saving Private Ryan . . . not the Indiana Jones flicks or WotW.

This remake, whether Spielberg directs it or not, will not take anything away from the original . . . which was made in South Korea, not North.

Ok... Indy 4 and WOTW did make money...but does anybody really remember those movies for anything but the wrong reasons? No, they were hated even though everyone saw them. If making a ton of money for a movie nobody liked after spending thier money is considered an achievement than Im sorry I guess speilberg didnt fuck up on those movies.

Maybe it isnt super-popular here in the US, but everytime I just say the words "asian cinema" or even "foriegn cinema" people I know immidately think Oldboy, even people I know who dont watch asian or foriegn cinema so its slowly but surely making a difference.

I personally believe that if Spielberg made this movie and fucked it up it wouldnt make the original more popular or draw people to it. It would make people stay the fuck away from it. I know alot people who look at me stupid when I say Phycho is one of my favorite horror movies and they say "that stupid Vince Vaughn movie?!?!" I want to slap them for being stupid but if they see the remake and it sucks they wont want to appreciate the original which I am more afraid of.

bigred760

11-10-2008, 04:12 PM

Well, there are two ways to judge a movie's success: box office return and critical acclaim. While many didn't like Indy IV, me included, it did make a lot of money and I have read and heard positive things from other people. Same with WotW.

Plus, after the success of The Departed, I'm surprised the Oldboy remake hasn't gone into production yet. And if there were a remake to be done on anything, Spielberg would be one of my top 3 choices to make it (though Will Smith probably wouldn't be). Scorcese would be up there as well.

therealjohng

11-10-2008, 04:13 PM

SPOILERS FOR OLDBOY

*Finds out she his daughter*

Awwwww, Hell naw!!!!!!

blankpage

11-10-2008, 04:22 PM

^^^

I was waiting for that to happen, hahahahaha.

Danger^Cart

11-10-2008, 04:49 PM

I dont agree. Minority Report, AI, War of the Worlds, Munich...all wonderfully visual films. The criminally underrated AI especially.

Oh no, they all look great from a technical standpoint, but there's really no personality to his films anymore. Jaws had a very unique look.

bigred760

11-10-2008, 04:53 PM

Oh no, they all look great from a technical standpoint, but there's really no personality to his films anymore. Jaws had a very unique look.

I thought Munich had lots of personality to it.

Brendan M.

11-10-2008, 05:06 PM

someone needs to start an online petition!

APzombie

11-10-2008, 06:46 PM

His last three films included one remake and one sequel. I hope he cooks up something original again.

sightless

11-11-2008, 02:22 AM

christ:(

Danger^Cart

11-11-2008, 03:38 PM

I thought Munich had lots of personality to it.

I thought it was just a glossy period piece (not too say I didn't enjoy it). Like if one were to pop open the definitive end-all book on lighting and framing techniques.

I suppose it's a bit unfair to chastise The Beard for making films that look great, but there's no...spunk (as in pep, not semen) in his pictures nowadays, y'know?

bigred760

11-11-2008, 04:23 PM

I've always considered Spielberg to have two sides to his filmmaking . . . there are the ones he does for fun: Indiana Jones flicks, Hook, Jaws, War of the Worlds and then there are the ones he makes for personal reasons: Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List and Munich.

There is some overlap here and there, but for the most part his more personal movies have a much more serious tone. I think that if he were to remake Old Boy, he could give it a serious tone, one it needs even though he doesn't have any personal reasons to make it.

Danger^Cart

11-12-2008, 12:24 PM

The material alone dictates the tone. Extremely dark. I'm just wondering if he'll adopt the same by-the-numbers visual style he's had lately.

MisterTwister

11-12-2008, 02:45 PM

I didn't like Oldboy. Actually I hated it and found it to be extremely overrated. So this idea of remaking it with Smith and Spielberg is just a really bad idea.

Even If I liked the film I would've hated this idea. Stop remaking asian films Hollywood!

Monotreme

11-14-2008, 07:05 AM

To Danger^Cart: Yes; Janusz Kaminski's work on A.I., Minority Report, War of the Words, and Munich is some of the best cinematographic work of the past decade, EASY. If there's one thing you CAN'T say about Spielberg movies, it's that they lack in the visual department.

Regarding the original post: As has been mentioned, Spielberg tends to mention a lot of projects that never come to be. But of all of these such project's he's ever mentioned, the one that I feel most incredibly strongly AGAINST is this one. Seriously, I can't express in words just how much I don't want this movie to be made. First of all: The original Oldboy was great just as it is, and there's really no reason to re-make it at all (such is the case for many re-makes, although some are actaully worth the effort - not in this case, though). Secondly: The original Oldboy is an exercise in style; the plot is kind of silly but the movie just carries you along. This will be a problem for Spielberg because in his movies, plot and characters are EVERYTHING. Spielberg directing a revenge fantasy? I just don't see it working!

Spielberg, please: Forget this crap, I'd rather you direct that fucking Tintin movie and get all that over with than going forward with this Oldboy thing. And when the FUCK are you going to get around to your INTERESTING projects, like Lincoln or Interstellar?!?! I want the old Spielberg back, not the Indiana Jones 4, Tintin, Oldboy Spielberg!

Tweek

11-14-2008, 06:14 PM

Who's read the manga of Oldboy? Isn't it different in almost every way than the movie and doesn't have the same "twist" or ending, even?

Brendan M.

11-20-2008, 02:12 AM

I hear the three disc set has a copy of the first comic. I gotta find that discontinued mother fucker. Most likely will end up ordering off amazon in time for Christmas.

Cop No. 633

11-20-2008, 05:46 AM

Danger^Cart

11-20-2008, 11:05 AM

Cop No. 633

11-20-2008, 03:48 PM

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I'm not even going to reply, only refer anyone is who is saying, "I disagree, his films look great" to however many posts I've written saying exactly that. If you're going to try and argue a point, I suggest actually READING the posts to make sure there's a point to argue.

I'm not disagreeing at all. I know Monotreme is a huge fan and I wanted to see his take on Kaminski's work on that particular movie... Maybe I should just save it to a PM. It doesn't really matter if somebody does or doesn't like his style to me. Apples and oranges. I personally would like it if Spielberg changed cinematographers on a few projects. Maybe go back to Dean Cundey or somebody else.

APzombie

11-20-2008, 04:23 PM

I think Janus and Spielberg are an amazing collaborating team though i do think he tends to get carried away on his f-stops in some projects. I don't think he did a very good job with Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I think it looked too Kiminski and not enough Dougy Slacombe. His saturated glows can get a bit jarring. I remember one scene in particular in Munich that looked like a college kid put the glow effect on ultra high in final cut.

I still don't know how i feel about this film. I love Oldboy, I love Spielberg. But i feel like one is the wife and the other is a mistress. I don't want them mingling.

Danger^Cart

11-20-2008, 07:19 PM

I'm not disagreeing at all. I know Monotreme is a huge fan and I wanted to see his take on Kaminski's work on that particular movie... Maybe I should just save it to a PM. It doesn't really matter if somebody does or doesn't like his style to me. Apples and oranges. I personally would like it if Spielberg changed cinematographers on a few projects. Maybe go back to Dean Cundey or somebody else.

Sorry, I should have quoted Monotreme as it was aimed at him. Not at all malicious, I might add.

Terror Australis

11-21-2008, 05:40 AM

NEWS FLASH!!!

Spielberg's Oldboy WON'T be a remake of Oldboy...Huh? Read on:

from filmschoolrejects.com

Will Smith Says Oldboy Won’t be Adaptation of Chan-wook Park’s Film
Posted by Brian C. Gibson (brian@filmschoolrejects.com) on November 21, 2008

I just came home from a red carpet premier of Will Smith’s film Seven Pounds. The star is on a tour of premiers promoting the film which is starting to create some major Oscar buzz for the already twice-nominated superstar. I’ll have a full red carpet report later, but first, I was able to stop Smith for a few questions, and a couple laughs. One of the hottest topics for me is Smith’s involvement in Steven Spielberg’s acquisition of the rights for Oldboy, and the actor didn’t disappoint on the news front.

We reported on this news almost two weeks ago, but there is a big development from what the star was able to tell me. Fans have already made themselves heard about their distaste for Oldboy being remade and Smith being the man rumored to take the lead. Well, we heard it straight from the star’s mouth that he is definitely starring in Steven Spielberg’s Oldboy…with a twist. Smith wanted to make a very strong point that this is not an adaptation of Chan-wook Park’s 2003 film. So what is it an adaptation of?

"We’re looking at that right now. Not the film though, it’s the original source material. There’s the original comics of ‘Oldboy’ that they made the first film from. And that’s what we’re working from, not an adaptation of the film…,” said Smith."

Apparently Spielberg wasn’t acquiring the rights to the film Oldboy, he was acquiring the rights to the original source material of the graphic novel ‘Oldboy.’ I guess the next question would be - what does this mean? This means that fans can rest a bit easier knowing that no one is trying to make a better Oldboy for an American audience. This means that Spielberg is free to truly adapt the source material and not try and copycat the brilliance of Park’s masterpiece. This also means that it will likely be an entirely different film, however, but the graphic novel is still very close to Park’s movie. So stay tuned as more details come in.

What do you guys think?

FireCaptain4

11-21-2008, 10:14 AM

How closely does Chan-Wook's movie match the source material? I honestly didn't even know there was a graphic novel... :confused:

Brendan M.

11-21-2008, 03:04 PM

I guess its the same plot minus the octopus eating and the incest.

LordSimen

11-21-2008, 03:12 PM

If he's just readapting the source material, personally I see nothing wrong with him changing the ending. Since the manga's ending is different as well, it's cool with me.

lukeisevil

11-21-2008, 03:44 PM

I guess its the same plot minus the octopus eating and the incest.

Somehow Speilberg will insist that aliens be put in this movie.

Tweek

11-24-2008, 11:26 AM

The Miami Herald Blog (http://miamiherald.typepad.com/reeling/2008/11/will-smith-visi.html)

Q: So is this Oldboy remake really happening? Because I can't quite picture you playing that character, considering how the movie ends and where the story goes.

A: We're working from the original source material. That element you're talking about - what's in the movie - is actually a deviation from the original source material. That was their artistic choice, and it worked for that market, but it was actually a deviation. We haven't even started getting into it yet, though.

So yeah... Much like the movie had barely anything to do with the manga, the remake will have barely anything to do with the original movie.

Badbird

11-27-2008, 01:38 AM

You wanna talk about "WTF?"

I read the thread title as Steven Seagal and Will Smith to remake Oldboy.

WTF indeed.

Monotreme

11-27-2008, 10:16 AM

I read somewhere that while Smith is on board, Spielberg's involvement has been denied... anyone hear anything about this?

Also, as much as I love Kaminski, I agree that Kingdom of the Crystal Skull was over-done and - perhaps purposefully but nonetheless irritatingly - looked too much like studio work and not enough like anything remotely... REAL. I mean, Kaminski's cinematography is always hyper-realistic and super-stylized, but the lighting set-ups in many scenes in Crystal Skull were just... obviously studio + green screen work and not on-location. And it was distracting and annoying, I agree. But for the most part, Kaminski rocks my socks off. Oh, and of course - I agree that The Diving Bell and the Butterfly was some of his best work in his entire career - in general last year was a great year for cinematography, between Deakins, Kaminski and Elswit; I also thought Seamus McGarvey's work on Atonement was utterly phenomenal... strong competition in that category last year...!

Ron34

12-01-2008, 04:33 PM

I could tell that this film is going to be different than Oldboy and make it look like the the graphic novel.

FireCaptain4

06-26-2009, 08:58 PM

Looks like some great forces are intervening with this thing.

Steven Spielberg and Will Smith are moving forward with plans for a remake of "Old Boy" (it's OLDBOY" fools!) despite a complex, behind-the-scenes rights wrangle involving the Japanese publishers of the original manga and the Korean producers of Park Chan-Wook's 2003 cult hit.

Futabasha, publisher of the manga by Nobuaki Minegishi and Garon Tsuchiya, has filed a case against Show East in Seoul, alleging the Korean company never had the right to negotiate a remake.

The issue is further complicated by the fact that Show East has shut down and its CEO, Kim Dong-Ju, has disappeared. Big Egg, a co-producer of the ultra-violent revenge flick, has also closed up shop, and its former staffers are unreachable.

"We haven't been able to confirm that Show East is bankrupt, and at this stage we're not sure what effect this will have on the legal case," said a spokesperson from Futabasha in Tokyo, who noted that legal proceedings had begun last week.

South Korean sales company Cineclick Asia, which represented Show East's "Oldboy" in international territories, actually negotiated the remake deal with Universal.

Universal brought in Roy Lee's Vertigo Entertainment, which has made a specialty of Asian film remakes, to produce the picture, and then Mandate acquired the rights from Universal.

DreamWorks, in one of its first moves in the wake of its November separation from Paramount, secured remake rights from Mandate, which remains involved in the project.

DreamWorks had no comment on the dispute between Futubasha and Show East.

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/16584

adamjohnson

06-27-2009, 01:28 AM

This will be more similar to "Taken" than to "Oldboy"

Just watch.

Brendan M.

06-27-2009, 02:39 AM

I'd rather continue to live in denial.

bigred760

06-27-2009, 07:31 AM

That article doesn't say how Spielberg and/or Smith are moving forward with the project. It deals mostly with the legal issues around the remake. It just says that Dreamworks had no comment. I'm still not entirely convinced that Spielberg and/or Smith are involved.

nickula11

10-25-2009, 06:25 PM

Ok - I didn't read through every post but here are my thoughts...

I watched Old Boy for the second time about a week ago. The second time I knew that these two were involved in a remake. How are the two most 'wholesome' and 'clean' filmmakers in the industry right now going to remake THIS film?
I mean any American remake I'd assume they'd bitch out of everything that is dark about this film - but with these two I can only assume Oh Dae-su will have been incarcerated for causing a car crash and killing Woo-Jin's sister or something. At the end he might cut off a finger or something...
I just don't get the appeal... Although I do know Spielberg would want to re-shoot the hallway fight and Smith will want to play dark and distressed to try and show some range after Seven Pounds failed.
However at the end of the day I might be surprised and these two very talented guys stick to their guns and make the brutal revenge film like they both live and work in 70s Hollywood. If they don't soften it up, good on em.
Either way, I'm very interested.

Tweek

10-25-2009, 06:38 PM

They're basing it on the manga which doesn't have the same ending as the movie.

Cosimo

10-25-2009, 07:16 PM

this is still happening?

i thought this was just a bad dream

ah man!

BadCoverVersion

10-25-2009, 08:15 PM

this is still happening?

i thought this was just a bad dream

ah man!

yEAHZ THIS!

nickula11

10-25-2009, 11:27 PM

basing it on the manga... They wouldn't know about the manga without the movie and upon seeing the film they went out, read the manga and decided that a good way to remake the film with a different ending without copping too much crap was to say that very very fashionable phrase "a re-imagining based on the graphic novel"
Either way I'm interested in anything Spielberg does - I just wish a new Jurassic Park was close to production...

Tweek

10-25-2009, 11:54 PM

The story of Oldboy the manga and Oldboy the film are almost completely different. As far as I know the only common thing is that it's about a guy who is released after being wrongfully imprisoned for a long time and tries to get revenge.

I'm sure they're adapting it from the manga to work around the ending but I still get annoyed when people whine that they'll tone down the ending, oh no! If the movie works on its own, that's fine with me.

ericdraven

10-25-2009, 11:59 PM

can someone spoil what happens in the end of the manga?

ProgWizardry

10-26-2009, 12:15 AM

If this doesn't convince people that Spielberg has indeed lost it, I...I don't know what to say...

Tweek

10-26-2009, 12:24 AM

can someone spoil what happens in the end of the manga?

If I've got it right...

Goto (Dae-su in the movie) and Kakinuma (Woo-jin in the movie) were in school together. One day Kakinuma had to sing in front of the class. Goto was moved by the singing and Kakinuma was shamed because Goto saw his loneliness. That's what gets him imprisoned. At the very end I thought I read that Kakinuma shoots Goto and then himself?

ericdraven

10-26-2009, 12:43 AM

If I've got it right...

Goto (Dae-su in the movie) and Kakinuma (Woo-jin in the movie) were in school together. One day Kakinuma had to sing in front of the class. Goto was moved by the singing and Kakinuma was shamed because Goto saw his loneliness. That's what gets him imprisoned. At the very end I thought I read that Kakinuma shoots Goto and then himself?

Uhm, wow. Chan Woo Park made a way better ending if you ask me.

nickula11

10-26-2009, 02:20 AM

No wonder Spielberg is interested in the manga. He'll harden up that premise and it'll look like he made it more hardcore - even though the film is as hardcore as you can get.
I wish Steve would drop everything he has on his plate right now and look for something else.

bigred760

07-06-2011, 10:42 AM

Apparently Spielberg's out and now Spike Lee is in talks to direct the remake. Who knows about Will Smith's participation at this point. But if Spike Lee gets the gig, maybe Denzel Washington's name will come up. Lord knows I'd rather see him in the role than Will Smith.

SkyNet

07-06-2011, 02:51 PM

Awesome.. can't wait to see how white people fucked over black people in the context of the Oldboy story!

Cop No. 633

07-06-2011, 06:16 PM

I can't stand Spike Lee. He is such a racist. Somebody needs to crack the whip on him.

Mr.HyDe807

07-06-2011, 06:40 PM

Perhaps Spike Lee's version will be a quasi-sequel to Do the Right Thing, with Mookie taking the role of Oh-Dae-Su and Salvatore as Woo-Jin-Lee.

Lost in Space

07-06-2011, 08:20 PM

I can't stand Spike Lee. He is such a racist. Somebody needs to crack the whip on him.

Clint Eastwood already did.

I'd honestly rather watch this directed by Tyler Perry

petey

07-06-2011, 08:45 PM

The antagonist will be played by a white guy. He wrongfully accuses the African-American protagonist and gets him locked up for many years. While in prison the protagonist has a life changing experience when he meets up with other African-American prisoners. They teach him how to fight and help him do research on his appeal. Once released, he converts to Islam and is on a hunt to find his white wrong doers. I can go on, but it would go into spoiler territory.

How does Tyler Perry and Spike Lee keep getting jobs?

Cop No. 633

07-06-2011, 09:09 PM

Clint Eastwood already did.

I'd honestly rather watch this directed by Tyler Perry

I was...

The antagonist will be played by a white guy. He wrongfully accuses the African-American protagonist and gets him locked up for many years. While in prison the protagonist has a life changing experience when he meets up with other African-American prisoners. They teach him how to fight and help him do research on his appeal. Once released, he converts to Islam and is on a hunt to find his white wrong doers. I can go on, but it would go into spoiler territory.

How does Tyler Perry and Spike Lee keep getting jobs?

Ummm....

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ilovemovies

07-06-2011, 11:14 PM

I'd honestly rather watch this directed by Tyler Perry

You can't be serious. No matter what you may think of Lee as a person, you have to admit that's he's a WAY better filmmaker than Tyler Perry could ever be. I can't possibly fathom anyone actually thinking otherwise. It boggles my mind!

petey

07-06-2011, 11:42 PM

Go ahead cosmic puppet. Got something on your mind? This is a forum and all ideas and opinions are welcomed.

Oh, and mark my word. This will be PG13.

ilovemovies

07-07-2011, 12:01 AM

Have you watched a Spike Lee movie/joint? Has the man even ever made a PG-13? I can't think of any. If anything, Lee's involvement should ease any worries that this could get a PG-13 rating.

Lazy Boy

07-07-2011, 04:15 PM

Have you watched a Spike Lee movie/joint? Has the man even ever made a PG-13? I can't think of any. If anything, Lee's involvement should ease any worries that this could get a PG-13 rating.

Malcolm X and Crooklyn are the only two, to the best of my knowledge.

Scarface98.9

07-07-2011, 10:53 PM

I just can't really fathom "Spike Lee" and "Oldboy" going together. While not quite an oxymoron, I just don't see how these two could fit and make a worthwhile movie

Tweek

07-12-2011, 08:04 AM

I can't stand Spike Lee. He is such a racist. Somebody needs to crack the whip on him.
lol
Have you watched a Spike Lee movie/joint? Has the man even ever made a PG-13? I can't think of any. If anything, Lee's involvement should ease any worries that this could get a PG-13 rating.

The rating should be the least of the reasons to be apprehensive.

No incest =/= PG13.

The Postmaster General

07-12-2011, 08:22 AM

I just can't really fathom "Spike Lee" and "Oldboy" going together. While not quite an oxymoron, I just don't see how these two could fit and make a worthwhile movie

The corridor scene will be filmed giving Oldboy the appearance of floating in tandem with a backwards moving camera.

bigred760

07-12-2011, 08:58 AM

I'm kind of hoping Denzel Washington takes the lead role now.

xseanymacx

07-12-2011, 11:08 AM

So is this going to become black lead exacts revenge on white kidnapper?

Bourne101

07-12-2011, 06:01 PM

Apparently Josh Brolin will play the lead. Interesting choice.

I still don't give a fuck about this movie though. The original is one of those movies that should never be remade.

Cop No. 633

07-12-2011, 06:18 PM

So is this going to become black lead exacts revenge on white kidnapper?

Hey now, there's an echo in this thread. Crazy.

FilmKing2000

07-12-2011, 06:26 PM

I wouldn't even care for this project if someone like Scorsese or P.T Anderson was at the helm (well, actually...). It's just a bad, bad idea.

Any word on whether Lee will be adapting the story straight from the manga like Spielberg would have done or if he's actually remaking the film? I think the only way I would find the least bit of interest in this is if they actually go with an original idea. Same set-up (man mysteriously imprisoned for fifteen years), but with an entirely new story behind the mystery.

Bourne101

07-12-2011, 06:29 PM

FilmKing2000

07-12-2011, 06:33 PM

Word on the street is that it will be 80% Park Chan-wook, 20% manga.

Ehhhh, I guess it's all just a matter of which twist they're going to use. Count me out.

SS-Block

07-12-2011, 06:38 PM

News just in: its been confirmed that its written, directed, and starring Chris Farley. Will Smith plays the kidnapper. Apparently they made it twenty years ago, and is infact the original.

MikeMovie

07-12-2011, 06:58 PM

News just in: its been confirmed that its written, directed, and starring Chris Farley. Will Smith plays the kidnapper. Apparently they made it twenty years ago, and is infact the original.

LOL

Bourne101

07-12-2011, 07:08 PM

Here is an article concerning these developments:

http://collider.com/oldboy-remake-details-josh-brolin/101862/
New Details on Spike Lee’s OLDBOY Remake; Josh Brolin Top Choice to Play Lead Role

by

Matt Goldberg

It looks like the remake of Chan-wook Park’s Oldboy has finally caught fire. Yesterday, we reported that Spike Lee would direct the film and today we’ve learned some new details regarding the remake. Twitch, who first broke the story about Lee’s involvment, reports that Mark Protosevich’s screenplay borrows not only from the original South Korean film but also from the manga that inspired it. Furthermore, the screenplay is said to be similar to how The Departed adapted Infernal Affairs. Protosevich’s script reportedly borrows some elements from the pre-existing works, jettisons others, and introduces new material. The new material makes up about 20% of the remake’s screenplay.

In a nutshell, here’s what Twitch says we can expect from the American Oldboy:

"Just as Park Chan-Wook took a central concept from the Japanese manga while radically re-envisioning parts to create something new, the goal here is not to create a slavish shot-for-shot remake but to take elements of the Park film combined with elements of the manga and completely re-envision and re-contextualize those to create a specifically American story around the same concepts and themes. Time will tell what that actually looks like on screen."

If you have to go about remaking Oldboy, this is the way to do it. It allows Spike Lee to make his own stamp on the material rather than exist in its shadow. There’s no way to out-do what Park accomplished so it’s best to avoid a simply “Americanized” version where the only thing that’s really been changed is the ethnicity of the characters and the need for subtitles.

Twitch also reports that Mandate has Josh Brolin as their top choice to play Oh Daesu (I imagine the name will be changed), the story’s protagonist who is mysteriously imprisoned by unknown captors and then released without explanation fifteen years later. While I usually roll my eyes at wishlists, this does tell us that the studio isn’t trying to cast the latest teen heartthrob but a talented actor with tremendous range. While I still think Denzel Washington could be brilliant in the role (going simply from what it is in Park’s film; I haven’t read Protosevich’s screenplay), you’ll get no complaints from me when it comes to casting Brolin.

Bourne101

07-12-2011, 07:10 PM

Ehhhh, I guess it's all just a matter of which twist they're going to use. Count me out.

When I read the article I read it incorrectly. The 20% is the new material not associated with any existing work. The rest is a mix of existing work. Either way, I'm still not interested.

Monotreme

07-12-2011, 10:21 PM

Not only is it pointless to re-make an excellent film, but this story would NOT work for American audiences. Not at all. It's very, distinctly Asian. I don't mean that in a racist way, it's just, stories like these are very characteristic of Asian cinema. I don't see it translating well to an American film. Lee is a very interesting filmmaker, but I am not interested in this project at ALL.

ilovemovies

07-13-2011, 12:48 AM

With Spike Lee at the helm, but this ends up just like The Departed. Even with Scorsese's involvement people were still unhappy about Infernal Affairs being remade and then the movie comes out, EVERYONE loves it! One of the best reviewed movies of the year but also popular with audiences as well and movie buffs and even ended up taking home best picture. Now that last thing may or may not happen. But I'm not doubting this movie. Spike Lee ALMOST never disappoints. Almost. There have been a few exceptions but in general, Spike Lee delivers.

Tuukka

07-13-2011, 01:32 AM

I don't see what's the problem. :confused:

They will just take the premise of the original comic and then they will write their own story around it. It's the *premise* which makes Old Boy so appealing to Hollywood, because it's a great, intriguing high-concept hook. It's easy to sell that hook to audiences.

This is exactly what Chan-wook Park did with his own version. He used the premise, and re-wrote everything else. I fail to see why others couldn't do the same.

I really don't think the earlier movie is going to be that big of an influence. We might see a hammer and a hallway in the American version, but that's pretty much it.

xseanymacx

07-13-2011, 10:47 AM

If they change the name, I'd be on board. That way it's more of the two movies adapting the same source but being completely different.

Tuukka

07-15-2011, 05:54 AM

If they change the name, I'd be on board. That way it's more of the two movies adapting the same source but being completely different.

The comic is titled Old Boy. If this is an adaptation of Old Boy, why can't it be called Old Boy?

You might have just as well demanded Peter Jackson to not name his movie "Lord Of The Rings", because Bakshi had already made an adaptation under that name.

Actually to be more precise, Park Chan-Wook's film is named "올드보이". And the original Japanese comic is named "オールド・ボーイ". So this is the first film with an english title "Old Boy".

Cop No. 633

07-15-2011, 06:12 AM

The comic is titled Old Boy. If this is an adaptation of Old Boy, why can't it be called Old Boy?

Actually to be more precise, Park Chan-Wook's film is named "올드보이". And the original Japanese comic is named "オールド・ボーイ". So this is the first film with an english title "Old Boy".

I think I'm lost in translation yo.

petey

07-18-2011, 10:40 PM

I just re-watched the vengeance Trilogy. Oh man, I forgot how dark and twisted these movies are. I really hope Spike keeps that same tone going but It seems like it just suits the Asian culture more. Like the scene in Sympathy where his sister was moaning and groaning because she was soo sick and in pain. What the three neighbor guys were doing, I can't see three American roomates doing that, LOL. Yes, that's not from Oldboy, but that's the type of material that makes Oldboy and the rest of the trilogy so awesome. I still think this is a bad idea but I am definitely curious to see how this ends up.