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Preston_79
02-07-2009, 07:22 PM
Obama May Change Medical Marijuana Policy

Experts believe it is already clear the Obama administration will change the strategy, if not the law, on medical marijuana.

AP - Saturday, February 07, 2009


The White House won't say it explicitly. Neither will the Drug Enforcement Administration. Yet there is a whiff in the air that U.S. policy is about to change when it comes to medical marijuana.

The message is clear, said UCLA professor Mark Kleiman, a former Justice Department official and an expert on crime and drug policy.

"It is no longer federal policy to beat up on hippies," said Kleiman.

Tell that to the DEA.

In California this past week, agents raided four dispensaries in Los Angeles and seized 500 pounds (225 kilograms) of pot.

"It's a little bit surprising, because I think current DEA management didn't get the message," said Kleiman. "The message is, this is no longer drug warrior time. We are not on a cultural crusade against pot-smoking."

California law permits the sale of marijuana for medical purposes, though it is still against federal law.

Thirteen states have laws permitting medicinal use of marijuana. California is unique among them for the presence of dispensaries, businesses that sell marijuana and even advertise their services. Legal under California law, such dispensaries are still illegal under federal law.

"Anyone possessing, distributing or cultivating marijuana for any reason is in violation of federal law," Sarah Pullen, a DEA spokeswoman in Los Angeles, said Thursday.

That may be the law, but it contradicts the medical marijuana position of the new president.

"The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws, and as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind," said White House spokesman Nick Shapiro, repeating past statements.

So on Friday, DEA officials in Washington declined to comment at all on the subject.

As a presidential candidate, Obama repeatedly promised a change in federal drug policy in situations where state laws allow use of medical marijuana.

"I think the basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs prescribed by doctors, I think that's entirely appropriate," Obama told the Mail Tribune of Medford, Oregon, in March.

A year earlier at a campaign stop in New Hampshire, Obama said: "I would not have the Justice Department prosecuting and raiding medical marijuana users."

At age 47, Obama is part of a generation that had plenty of exposure to pot.

In his memoir, "Dreams from My Father," he described time spent as a youth struggling with questions about his race and identity, and turning to drugs -- including marijuana and cocaine -- to "push questions of who I was out of my mind."

The new president is unlikely to make any official change in policy before he has a new DEA chief and drug czar in place.

Yet experts believe it is already clear the Obama administration will change the strategy, if not the law, on medical marijuana.

Philip Heymann, a former deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration who is now a Harvard professor, said it's time for the agency to put more effort into fighting drugs more dangerous than marijuana.

"I do expect him to appoint an administrator who takes marijuana less seriously than is traditional for the DEA, as I think most Americans do," said Heymann.

Heymann said he expects the Obama administration will eventually instruct the DEA to emphatically scale back raids on dispensaries, and conduct such raids only in instances where investigators believe a business is abusing the dispensary system as a cover for other criminal behavior.

So last week's raids in California may be the last of their kind.

"The DEA's not likely to want to confront a new president," said Heymann. "It may simply be that they're behaving as they have traditionally, and they haven't anticipated the change Obama and his spokesman are signaling."


For me the jury is still out if smoking marijuana is better/safer than just taking a pill of THC, but I'm glad Obama doesn't want to use tax payers money to interfere with state law. If Obama can follow through on this one I'll wash and kiss his feet.

The Postmaster General
02-07-2009, 10:14 PM
Yeah, it's wild that it's broken down into a battle between federal and state law. I think the DEA needs to law off. Medical marijuana been proven helpful by the FDA's own admission with drugs like Marinol, so it's basically just hard-headedness on the part of the feds. I think focusing on low entry drug users for criminal prosecution is bad enough, but to go against people described as patients is insane.

Regarding joints vs THC pills, I don't think none of the dispensaries will roll joints or advocate that (though I bet they sell papers) -- I think they mostly push for vaporizers, and when they do prepare it for consumption it is only ever for eating. In the initial phrases I think it was different and rolling for patients was common but I think now the standard is to not encourage smoking. I'm not totally sure though, and am only going from what I've seen from movies and TV.

free
02-08-2009, 02:57 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLpJMacS8c8&feature=related

The transformation this mother makes is almost unbelieveable.

*In my opinion, what happens in the privacy of someone's own home is of no business of the government.



*(obviously, when either minors or unwilling participants are involved, that changes the situation.)

Preston_79
02-08-2009, 11:43 AM
Yeah, it's wild that it's broken down into a battle between federal and state law. I think the DEA needs to law off. Medical marijuana been proven helpful by the FDA's own admission with drugs like Marinol, so it's basically just hard-headedness on the part of the feds. I think focusing on low entry drug users for criminal prosecution is bad enough, but to go against people described as patients is insane.

Regarding joints vs THC pills, I don't think none of the dispensaries will roll joints or advocate that (though I bet they sell papers) -- I think they mostly push for vaporizers, and when they do prepare it for consumption it is only ever for eating. In the initial phrases I think it was different and rolling for patients was common but I think now the standard is to not encourage smoking. I'm not totally sure though, and am only going from what I've seen from movies and TV.

I disagree with everything Bubba just said. ;)j/k

Yea I've only seen dispensaries in documentaries, and briefly on the news.

Homyrrh
02-08-2009, 01:36 PM
*(obviously, when either minors or unwilling participants are involved, that changes the situation.)

Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike...abortion? ;)

Jon Lyrik
02-08-2009, 02:41 PM
I think that's a terrible idea. If we made it mandatory for every teen to smoke weed daily and get laid at least once a month, school shootings would cease to exist.

free
02-09-2009, 12:23 AM
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike...abortion? ;)

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n220/Daytraderwon/Thread_hijack_live.jpg

Considering that a fetus isn't a person... :eek::mad::D

The Postmaster General
02-09-2009, 03:28 AM
Considering that a fetus isn't a person...


That line of thinking pretty much justifies the creationists' reasoning in disregarding evolution by saying that it presupposes we evolved from the monkeys you see at the park, and that the Big Bang really implies that the universe was created from nothing.

Of course no matter the disagreement, it's always the superfluous statements that unite the most vocal groups from both sides.

gayzilla
02-25-2009, 11:49 PM
I'm sick of the whole medicinal marijuana debate. Whatever happened to good old fashioned recreational marijuana. I can go to a psychiatrist, complain of intolerable boredom, and then get a prescription for a wide variety of drugs far worse than marijuana. Not to mention the millions of dollars wasted to fight this part of the war on drugs. Please tax me out my ass. The countries financial crises would be eliminated with the amount of taxes I am begging to pay to pick up several ounces of Humboldt Gold.

Not to mention it would turn a bunch of peace loving criminals into farmers.