A small rant on the state of horror.

[Soulburn420]

You know, with the tidal wave that flooded the message boards the past few weeks here known as Friday the 13 has really opened my eyes to some facts about the world today. It's amazing how hard people will bitch about something as irrelevant as a movie. If someone has nothing worse to bitch about in their live than a movie, I envy you. I seriously envy you.

I don't care if it's a remake of Friday the 13th or A Nightmare on Elm Street. A movie is simply a piece of celluloid to take us from the worries of the modern world for a couple of hours. It is NOT meant to be taken so seriously people. I personally enjoyed the new Friday, and that is my right. Others didn't, and that is their right. But some of the arguments are as ludicrous as I have ever seen. Those arguments have been addressed elsewhere on these boards, so I will not go into rehashing them here. But wow. Simply wow.

Some people are cutting off their noses to spite their faces lately. People refusing to see the movie is ridiculous. You don't want to add to the remake fuel? Well I have news for you. The next Nightmare movie IS gonna happen, whether you see Friday or not. And there is nothing that is gonna stop that now, with the success of Friday.

On the topic of ANOES remake, I am actually ALL FOR IT. The only one of the Nightmare flicks I liked was the original. Freddy vs Jason was fun, but i don't count that as a flick of either series. It's an offshoot. If the remake can actually make Freddy scary again, that will be a fucking blessing.

There are a lot of remakes on the horizon and a lot of them actually look damn good. The Wolf Man of course comes to mind, but another one that has HARDLY even been mentioned is Night of the Demons. Personally, I don't give a damn if a movie is a remake or not. If it is a good horror movie, it's a good horror movie. That is the ONLY thing that matters to me.

If anything I said in this offends anyone, that is not my intent. I have just seen so many nonsensical arguments lately that I just felt the need to let this out. And now I feel better.

Remember, they are only movies people.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Hmm...we seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum my friend. To each his own I guess, and no offense taken. :)

[Soulburn420]

Hmm...we seem to be on opposite sides of the spectrum my friend. To each his own I guess, and no offense taken. :)

Glad to hear it :D

I am just getting sick of hearing people constantly bitch. LOL

[ArtFactoryRadio]

There have been good remakes and bad remakes. It's all relative I suppose.

One of my only problems with remakes is that they never remake horror movies to improve upon a lost opportunity. They tend to go with name recognition just to cash in.

I don't raise a big fuss and start a Spartacus uprising to battle the film. More often than not I just don't give them my money and that's how I oppose it. I don't fight the system, I just don't give them my time or money.

The people who really hate the remakes feel that the originals are being dumped upon and forgotten by a generation who will never experience a masterpiece like the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre, because they saw the less interesting remake. It makes their taste feel cheap, and I don't blame them for being frustrated by it. I just don't join in the fuss on either side. I give my money to something else. It might be different if the remakes were something unique or fun or interesting, like the Dawn of the Dead remake, but more often than not they're drivel.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen a horror film in theatre since Saw 2. Honestly, I've come to have extremely low expectations for horror films released in theatre, so I wait for video if I seem them at all.

[Ratlehed]

There are a lot of remakes on the horizon and a lot of them actually look damn good. The Wolf Man of course comes to mind, but another one that has HARDLY even been mentioned is Night of the Demons. Personally, I don't give a damn if a movie is a remake or not. If it is a good horror movie, it's a good horror movie. That is the ONLY thing that matters to me.



I forgot about Night of the Demons. It'll be great to see Tiffany Shepis on the big screen again. I had hopes for The Wolfman. I doubt it'll be so lovey dovey like Nicholsons Wolf. I am sure it'll be way different than the great version from the 30's. It seems like its taking forever to come out though. Which normally isnt a good thing.

The new Friday flick seems to have a good 50/50 split. Some like it-some not so much. Which makes it a good film to discuss. In then end I am not a fan of the movie and I'll never will be. But I'll still read reviews on why people think its awesome and why others though it was mediocre.

I find real life disscusions boring. Money(dont have any), politics (could care less), enviroment (dont know enough about it), etc.. I much rather talk about horror films and other fun stuff.

[Soulburn420]

I forgot about Night of the Demons. It'll be great to see Tiffany Shepis on the big screen again. I had hopes for The Wolfman. I doubt it'll be so lovey dovey like Nicholsons Wolf. I am sure it'll be way different than the great version from the 30's. It seems like its taking forever to come out though. Which normally isnt a good thing.

The new Friday flick seems to have a good 50/50 split. Some like it-some not so much. Which makes it a good film to discuss. In then end I am not a fan of the movie and I'll never will be. But I'll still read reviews on why people think its awesome and why others though it was mediocre.

I find real life disscusions boring. Money(dont have any), politics (could care less), enviroment (dont know enough about it), etc.. I much rather talk about horror films and other fun stuff.

Check out the link I posted in the Wolf Man thread, looks pretty damn good. And yes, I realize this is a movie forum, for movies to be discussed. I am just at the point that it seems people are taking this thing way too seriously.

As for Night of the Demons, I really didn't like the first one or the sequel, but this could be fun.

[ZMoney08]

I've recently come to the conclusion that I am fine with remakes, after I thoroughly enjoyed both My Bloody Valentine 3D and Friday the 13, as long as they make them R-Rated and don't cut out what makes a horror movie a horror movie to get it down to a PG-13 rating.

Like stated above ANOES remake could be fun because I also only really liked the first one in the series. A new scarier Freddy could be fun to see on the big screen.

[Ratlehed]

Check out the link I posted in the Wolf Man thread, looks pretty damn good. And yes, I realize this is a movie forum, for movies to be discussed. I am just at the point that it seems people are taking this thing way too seriously.

As for Night of the Demons, I really didn't like the first one or the sequel, but this could be fun.

I'll check out that link.


I think "bitching" is alright. As long as no one makes any personal attacks. Which I havent seen.

Horror movies to me are like Star Trek/Star Wars to other people. I dont dress up (unless its Halloween) and re-enact scenes or anything like that. I wouldnt burn my horror collection over some bad movies. Like Simon Pegg did with his SW collection in SPACED, after seeing the Phantom Menace. But i do get a little "passionate" about the films/charectars. I look into the movies to much and all that. But I wouldnt lose sleep over them.

Its good for a film like Friday to come out. It brings the board back to life a little.

As for Night of the Demons. I hope Monice Keenan dies. I really didnt like her in F vs. J.

[a7xfan]

as i have said on other part of this forums. i am, for the most part, fine with remakes. it's when they decide to remake either -young films or masterpieces- that's annoying.

for example a remake of the crow (i know allready it's a 're-imagining') would be FAR too soon, and to remake say 'the godfather' would be hugely retarded.

so this is why i was not fond of RZ's Halloween remake, i hated the idea that Zombie thought he had the chops to even attempt to remake such an amazing iconic film. a film that pretty much molded the slasher genre.

though his film wasn't the worst remake i have seen, it was pretty damn stupid and crappy. it's only redeeming features being danielle harris and brad dourif.

i am fond of this Elm Street remake (sorry Ging :p) as i thought the first film was rather boring, iconic but boring. i enjoyed part 2 much more. plus i think we need to see a scary freddy, imo Freddy has never been scary, even when i was a kid he wasn't.

im curious to see how the childs play remake turns out, as i feel the same about chucky as i do about freddy, he needs to be scary again. not that the childs play films are bad by any means, only 'seed of chucky' being a truly bad film imo.

though i am against films that are truly a waste of money, remaking 'lepracaun' WTF??. don't even bother, mega retarded idea that shit is. same with 'troll'. and if they announce puppet master i will just cry lol.

[DarthWade]

I don't mind remakes that much (usually), but there are times that it does piss me off (regardless of what is being remade). What I hate about the idea mostly is that the money being spent on all these remakes could be put to other uses.

Some of this money could be given out to smaller projects for first-time directors, screenwriters, etc. There could be the next Wes Craven, Spielberg, Kubrick, Tarantino,(insert your favorite director here), waiting for their big break but don't get it because the studio is remaking something (or lots of somethings).

The one remake that really really drives me insane though is the Psycho remake. He was given a ton of money to do a shot-by-shot remake. He didn't even try to put his own twist to the story, change scenarios, no - he does a shot by shot remake. So all that money was spent (which could have made a few smaller films) and it was a big bomb.

I also hate the new Pink Panther movies, but that's because only Peter Sellers could ever be Closeau.

[Soulburn420]

I'll check out that link.


I think "bitching" is alright. As long as no one makes any personal attacks. Which I havent seen.

Horror movies to me are like Star Trek/Star Wars to other people. I dont dress up (unless its Halloween) and re-enact scenes or anything like that. I wouldnt burn my horror collection over some bad movies. Like Simon Pegg did with his SW collection in SPACED, after seeing the Phantom Menace. But i do get a little "passionate" about the films/charectars. I look into the movies to much and all that. But I wouldnt lose sleep over them.

Its good for a film like Friday to come out. It brings the board back to life a little.

As for Night of the Demons. I hope Monice Keenan dies. I really didnt like her in F vs. J.

That's a good attitude to have, imo. I never said there shouldn't be passion towards the genre. Hell without it the genre would wither and die. Rather, I was talking about fanaticism. Bringing a movie to a godlike status. I know far too many people that do that. A good example is My Name is Bruce. That kid in the movie is the kinda fanaticism I am talking about.

Oh, and I agree with about Monica. She was the worst thing about the FVJ movie.


And for the record, I am neither pro remake nor anti remake. If a remake is good, it is good. Dawn of the Dead, TCM, F13 all come to mind.

Personally, I really did like the TCM remake. All of the TCM movies feel like remakes to me anyway. And I will give PD credit. Leatherface was no pussy in the remake and prequel. At least he wasn't a fucking crossdresser.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I think that Leatherface being a cross-dresser was one of his more disturbing aspects. Imagine it, a skirt made of human flesh with a belt composed of nipples. Yech! :eek:

w/e about the Horror genre. Its not the same genre anymore that I fell in love with eight years ago.

[Soulburn420]

I think that Leatherface being a cross-dresser was one of his more disturbing aspects. Imagine it, a skirt made of human flesh with a belt composed of nipples. Yech! :eek:

w/e about the Horror genre. Its not the same genre anymore that I fell in love with eight years ago.

8 years? that's all? Wow. honestly, IMO horror is MUCH better now than 8 years ago. That was during the Scream/IKWYDLS days.

And the TCM 4 Leatherface wasn't like that. That could be interesting. No, it's a NORMAL dress. And makeup. Seriously, this movie is so badf that Matthew McConaughey and Renee Zellwegger(the films stars) actually lobbied to prevent this movie from being released. This movie is pure crap.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I grew up on the 80's years of Horror, even though I began 8 years ago. I do believe that it was better off then though, at least we had some original products. (No offense to fans of remakes, but it gets really old after a while. Like REALLY old.)

I figured. They really should have done that in the remake, rather than giving him some generic skin-disease or whatever. I could dig that. Or get Tobe Hooper to return to write/direct it, that would be pretty dang Epic if you ask me! :D

[Soulburn420]

I grew up on the 80's years of Horror, even though I began 8 years ago. I do believe that it was better off then though, at least we had some original products. (No offense to fans of remakes, but it gets really old after a while. Like REALLY old.)

I figured. They really should have done that in the remake, rather than giving him some generic skin-disease or whatever. I could dig that. Or get Tobe Hooper to return to write/direct it, that would be pretty dang Epic if you ask me! :D

hehe i can agree with that about TCM. Though I don't really agree with the comment on original material. Most crap that came out then was a Scream clone/ripoff. :mad:

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

True. But they at least used their own names and characters, rather than just ending old Franchises that don't deserve to be remade.

Wanna just agree to disagree on this one?

[Soulburn420]

True. But they at least used their own names and characters, rather than just ending old Franchises that don't deserve to be remade.

Wanna just agree to disagree on this one?

Yeah, I can agree to disagree. I don't really wanna go the rounds for weeks. :D

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Yeah I know. I always hate those huge 25-page arguments that go on forever and neither party gives in. Totally pointless.

*Gives Soulburn420 big hug and whispers in ear:"I'm glad that we're friendly again." :p :D

[Soulburn420]

Yeah I know. I always hate those huge 25-page arguments that go on forever and neither party gives in. Totally pointless.

*Gives Soulburn420 big hug and whispers in ear:"I'm glad that we're friendly again." :p :D

LMAO I know what ya mean. Those kind of arguments are totally pointless. And annoying. Nothing wrong with a lively debate though :D

Yeah we're buds. Though if ya say anything bad about The Wolf Man you've crossed the line :p;)

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Yay, we're buds! I'm totally giving you an Add now! :p

(I would never say anything bad about the Wolfman, I'm just about as psyched up for it as you are! I mean, Rick Baker doing a werewolf movie again-that's EPIC!! :D Hopefully it lives up to my awesome expectations tho. Plus I think it's rude to purposely insult another Schmoe's Avatar. :p)

[Soulburn420]

Yay, we're buds! I'm totally giving you an Add now! :p

(I would never say anything bad about the Wolfman, I'm just about as psyched up for it as you are! I mean, Rick Baker doing a werewolf movie again-that's EPIC!! :D Hopefully it lives up to my awesome expectations tho. Plus I think it's rude to purposely insult another Schmoe's Avatar. :p)

Hahahaha awesome.

Yeah, I know you're psyched. :D And my work won't be finished until everyone is a psyched as us. I want this damn flick to SHATTER the box office records that F13 shattered. Why? because the world needs more badass werewolf flicks. That, and I wanna see more Rick Baker effects work. :D

Ah what the hell. here is the link that I posted in The Wolf Man flick again. Notice the gore. *drool*

http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=785&item=0

[Thyy]

Can't say I feel angry when I hear about another re-make (or re-imagining or any other synonym they're calling it these days..). Besides, once a franchise gets to the point of having too many sequels, it's hard to keep caring/taking it seriously. They already did about everything they could with Jason, for one. You know a franchise is running out of ideas when they start sending their characters off to space. Yeah, Jason X was a fun movie, but also a sign there wasn't much left to do with him.

The only thing that irks me is the lack of originality with re-makes. The new Last House on the Left looks like it could be good, but I feel like I already saw that film several years ago. I want for a new movie to surprise me, not just take me down a trip on memory lane. :(

Lately, I've been enjoying lots of foreign horror films, which I started watching out of the desire of seeing something original, and must say that as of now, the best horror films I have seen have all come from other countries. Yeah, personal opinion, I know. But if anyone thinks that re-makes are the only option for watching new films, try checking out some more foreign films and not just the common ones that everyone here already knows of. There's a LOT more out there if you just look. ;)

[SixStrangSmoker]

remakes are stupid waste of time/talent/creativity.

Why remake a movie that is allready fine? Why not make a new great character or plot to go along side the greats instead of just riding past glory for $$$?

The worst part is the little "pro-remake" whiners. people that keep spouting the "deal with it, remakes are better, stop complaining" but do not even realize the irony that they are sitting there bitching more than anyone. It is EVERYONES right to feel how they feel. If someone has passion in their hearts regarding a movie they love that is trying to be redone and erased by soulless execs just for $ then they need to speak their mind.

just because a movie is remade, does NOT mean that the remake is automatically better. In fact, of all these TONS of remakes, I have seen maybe 2 that were OK. The amount that were pointless (yet still made enough money for the producers to smile) were far greater.

My opinion and I know I am not alone on being aggravated by the unoriginality in our genre, the remaking of an R film into a shaky, handheld PG-13 mess, and the over all crappy quality of the films.

[Grand_Marquis]

Soulburn - I completely agree with you about wanting to see the Nightmare on Elm St. remake, but for totally opposite reasons. (this is going back to the first post, heh) I actually think the original "nightmare" is a bit cheesy and painfully dated. The concept is solid and I think there's an assload of awesome you could still do with it, even now, but yeah - there needs to be a washing-of-hands if there's to be any hope of a future for that franchise.

I AM concerned though, that too much weight is being placed on the big timers and remaking their glory years. It places too much emphasis on style and high-end marketing campaigns, which too often leaves the little league in the dust, relegating them to niches so small you can count the fans on your fingers. And that's not cool.

[SixStrangSmoker]

I will just never, for the life of me, understand why people are eager to see a slicked out, dumbed down version of a film we've all seen and has been established. You know whats gonna happen.

Why not NEW films/characters?

[Aba-DaBa-Tua]

Ya know, SixStrangSmoker I fully agree with some of your comments. People who are pro-remake don't need to tell people who love the originals to 'deal with it'. The whole point of these forums is to discuss your opinion and if your opinion is that you have a hardened love for old school horror then it is your right to share that opinion. As long as it's done in a tasteful manner.

What I don't agree with is that the pro-remake people 'whine' more than anyone. I'm not saying either side is right but I am saying that it seems that there are far more people complaining about remakes than there are those that whole heartedly love what the film makers are doing these days. Just from posts I've read far more remake bashing by people who love the original horror and I can't count how many posters I've read claiming they won't pay to see another remake because it's (insert insult here).

Just like Anti-Remake people have the right to say what they feel then I think pro-remake people should have the same right ... it's only fair.

I'm in the middle on the matter because there are some remakes I've liked more than the originals, some originals I've enjoyed more and then some where I thought both films sucked and no one has been able to really hit the nail on the head.

I've mentioned this elsewhere but I don't think making remakes diminishes what the original did in the slightest and in fact I believe it does just the opposite. I'm 24 years old and didn't really grow up watching alot of these old school horror films, many i hadn't even heard of until I read that a remake was in the works. The idea of a remake has made me go back and watch the originals (for better or worse) on numerous occassions and has given me a greater respect and understanding for them.

but that's my rant.

[Henry Lee Lucas]

I'm quite different then most people here, I actually have disliked every remake to come out in the past 10 years. That being said I still take SoulBurns position, I think its ridiculous to say something along the lines of "sam raimi ruined my childhood" or "i can never look at a refrigerator again, fuck you george lucas" or whatever. Still though, I dont see the point of this thread, this is something that can be brought up and ignored in any other topic, since your asking people to change their opinion.

also, ive read the past few fangorias/rue-morgues and i just realized how bad horror movies are now days, you guys gotta dig back! thats where the gold is, and all of a sudden you wont give a shit that theyre remaking videodrome.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

The worst part is the little "pro-remake" whiners. people that keep spouting the "deal with it, remakes are better, stop complaining" but do not even realize the irony that they are sitting there bitching more than anyone. It is EVERYONES right to feel how they feel. If someone has passion in their hearts regarding a movie they love that is trying to be redone and erased by soulless execs just for $ then they need to speak their mind.

just because a movie is remade, does NOT mean that the remake is automatically better. In fact, of all these TONS of remakes, I have seen maybe 2 that were OK. The amount that were pointless (yet still made enough money for the producers to smile) were far greater.

My opinion and I know I am not alone on being aggravated by the unoriginality in our genre, the remaking of an R film into a shaky, handheld PG-13 mess, and the over all crappy quality of the films.

Thank you. I just can't stand feeling like I'm the only person that doesn't want my favorite films to be bastardized. Its kinda funny because when remakes were decent it seemed that more people were against it (Hills Have Eyes, Dawn of the Dead) than now that remakes are being made for the sake of remaking and capitalizing (AKA: cashing in on) our favorite films. I admit that I have enjoyed a few remakes (the two above, The Grudge, NOTLD, and that's just about it) but things have gone too far. When Friday the 13 and A Nightmare On Elm Street are being remade then I'm not just going to sit there and take it up the bum. (Let alone with a smile on my face like everyone else.)

Srry for the mini-Rant, I just felt like letting a little out. :)

[Henry Lee Lucas]

Thank you. I just can't stand feeling like I'm the only person that doesn't want my favorite films to be bastardized. Its kinda funny because when remakes were decent it seemed that more people were against it (Hills Have Eyes, Dawn of the Dead) than now that remakes are being made for the sake of remaking and capitalizing (AKA: cashing in on) our favorite films. I admit that I have enjoyed a few remakes (the two above, The Grudge, NOTLD, and that's just about it) but things have gone too far. When Friday the 13 and A Nightmare On Elm Street are being remade then I'm not just going to sit there and take it up the bum. (Let alone with a smile on my face like everyone else.)

Srry for the mini-Rant, I just felt like letting a little out. :)

I understand the trend your talking about but both dawn and hills were obvious cash-ins. Theyre both prime movies for this because they both were socially relevant and made with low budgets, they werent GENRE films, the artistic stamp was too great. The remakes on the other hand are just the storyline shells of these movies, so in which case, cash-ins.

You gotta remember that a lot of these movies being remade werent big studio productions. Its kindve an odd phenomena.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Well I can understand that argument. At least both films turned out to be pretty great...right? Well, I think so anyways.

I do miss low-budget Horror like Texas Chainsaw Massacre where its just some crazy dude with a camera putting the most lunatic, disturbing story that he possibly can to film. I hate this whole "Studio wants money, recycles crazy dude's film, adds pop star + skater fag into movie" fad. :(

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go cry now...

[LordSimen]

Horror rules now-a-days. There's crap, but there's always been crap. The only difference is you all grew up on yesterday's crap, so you don't look at it as crap. But if you were 10 years older when you saw those movies, ten to one you'd be saying the same exact shit about the stuff you grew up on as you are about the "current state" of horror today.

[hrdude]

Horror rules now-a-days. There's crap, but there's always been crap. The only difference is you all grew up on yesterday's crap, so you don't look at it as crap. But if you were 10 years older when you saw those movies, ten to one you'd be saying the same exact shit about the stuff you grew up on as you are about the "current state" of horror today.

I sorta agree....but I grew up in the eighties...and eighties horror ruled then as well as now.

[LordSimen]

I sorta agree....but I grew up in the eighties...and eighties horror ruled then as well as now.

And someone who grew up on 70's, or 60's, or perhaps 50's horror would beg to differ. He'd go on and on about slasher movies and their endless sequels destroying the genre and would be wondering what happened to originality.

It's a cycle that I'll never truly understand.

[hrdude]

And someone who grew up on 70's, or 60's, or perhaps 50's horror would beg to differ. He'd go on and on about slasher movies and their endless sequels destroying the genre and would be wondering what happened to originality.

It's a cycle that I'll never truly understand.

I'm not disagreeing with you, as far as I'm concerned you like what you like, whether it be genre related or decade related.

[LordSimen]

I'm not disagreeing with you, as far as I'm concerned you like what you like, whether it be genre related or decade related.

I'm not sayin' you are, just furtherin' my point a bit. ;)

[psykohurricane]

Here my opinion on the subject, Hollywood is doing remakes of everything not just horror movies but of everything just to makes money. There isn't anybody in hollywood right now that able to come up with a original idea for a movie and that good for them because it easier to write a script for a remake that it is to actually write some new and original.

If we stick to the horror genre, how many original idea comes out in the last couple of years? Not maybe 10 or 15 tops and out of these 10 to 15 movies that came out, how many actually made money? Maybe 4 or 5. So the point am making is that we, has old school horror fans make up probably 10 to 20% of the target audience and most of these lame remakes are made for teenager that may have never heard of the original version of Halloween, Friday the 13th or nightmare on elm street and that what Hollywood is going after. So we might bitch about it but these remakes are not made for us and so if your like me and don't like remakes but still want to see it just to see how bad they are, find a way to see it for free, either get invited to the premiere or get a pass to go see it but don'T give your money to them that all. And if you want to see good horror movies, you should try to wait for a horror film festival. Pretty much everybody in North America as one during the year. Another way to see good horror movies are to wait for them to come out on DVD. Sure there are some lame one but there are also some really good one, so that another option.

So all am saying is that remakes are here to stay whether we like it or not so we just have to deal with it and find another way so see original horror movies.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I agree with Psykohurricane. I've just been avoiding movies all together lately. Its pretty much all crap and none of it interests me. No sense in wasting my time/money.

*shrugs

[Brendan M.]

With Martyrs and Let the Right One In and now Drag Me to Hell coming out this month, I have total faith in the horror genre of today.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

I haven't seen Martyrs yet, but I wasn't all that blown away by Let The Right One In. I look forward to Drag Me To Hell, but it could go either way. (Sam Raimi=must see. pg-13=no go)

[zombievictim]

The PG13 rating attached to Drag Me To Hell doesn't bother me one bit. From what I've read, the R rated and PG13 versions are practically the same movie. So if that PG13 rating gets more butts in the seats, then go for it as long as it doesn't fuck with the films quality (which this doesn't look to). This actually comes out the day after my last day of High School ever so I'll be checking it out as a celebration. Then I'll be going to see UP immediately after. Perfect Combo!

[LordSimen]

Yeah, I pretty much agree with Zombievictim. There's a difference between a toned down PG-13 film and one that was actually made with the full intention to be PG-13. Raimi made it through his studio and produced it himself, which means that there was no interference and the movie we will see is the movie he fully intended for us to see and there's no tampering or watering down in effect at all.

[Horror]

As much as I hate most modern remakes, people tend to think the remake trend is new. It isn't people!

A little studio called Hammer made its name out of remakes of 1930's creature features in the 1950's. The 70's also had its fair share of remakes, as well, which is worth bringing up because to many of us that period was the 'golden age' of horror.

Hammer may have had their own approach to remakes, and they were indeed much better than the crap we get today, but it's not much different in state of mind.

The horror genre as we know is often lambasted by everyone, not just critics. Many think of them as B-Movies still to this day.

I dont know if it will ever change...soon at least. But that is a different rant anyway.....

[LordSimen]

As much as I hate most morern remakes, people tend to think the remake trend is new. It isn't people!

A little studio called Hammer made its name out of remakes of 1930's creature features in the 1950's. The 70's also had its fair share of remakes, as well, which is worth bringing up because to many of us that period was the 'golden age' of horror.


Glad someone else has a little bit of horror history in them. I've been preachin' this for a while but, it seems no one chooses to listen.

[robk]

Glad someone else has a little bit of horror history in them. I've been preachin' this for a while but, it seems no one chooses to listen.

Yes, Hammer basically gave remakes a good name. That's why I'm willing to sit through give garbage like Zombie's Halloween a chance, even if I'm disappointed more often than not.

[Brendan M.]

Yes, Hammer basically gave remakes a good name. That's why I'm willing to sit through give garbage like Zombie's Halloween a chance, even if I'm disappointed more often than not.

Hammer was sort of different in a way though. Hollywood had made all these film adaptations of British literature and Hammer was basically taking those stories rightfully back to their homeland.

[LordSimen]

They remade the Mummy and that is based on no novel.

[Ratlehed]

As much as I hate most modern remakes, people tend to think the remake trend is new. It isn't people!

A little studio called Hammer made its name out of remakes of 1930's creature features in the 1950's. The 70's also had its fair share of remakes, as well, which is worth bringing up because to many of us that period was the 'golden age' of horror.

Hammer may have had their own approach to remakes, and they were indeed much better than the crap we get today, but it's not much different in state of mind.

The horror genre as we know is often lambasted by everyone, not just critics. Many think of them as B-Movies still to this day.

I dont know if it will ever change...soon at least. But that is a different rant anyway.....



The main difference between Hammer and the old Universal films they "renvisioned" was color. They took the old Draculas, Frankenstiens, etc. and made colorized versions. Yeah, they tweeked the stories. But the main difference was that the movies where in color. Plus they had a little more violence and horror. More cleavage too.

They werent remaking franchises they just had sequels come out a few years ago. It seems pointless to me to remake a Jason film. When F vs J isnt even old. The Friday remake really didnt do anything great for the Jason franchise.

[Ratlehed]

I agree with Psykohurricane. I've just been avoiding movies all together lately. Its pretty much all crap and none of it interests me. No sense in wasting my time/money.

*shrugs

Same here. Movies as a whole seem to be really recycled right now. At least the movies in the theaters.

[Henry Lee Lucas]

The main difference between Hammer and the old Universal films they "renvisioned" was color. They took the old Draculas, Frankenstiens, etc. and made colorized versions. Yeah, they tweeked the stories. But the main difference was that the movies where in color. Plus they had a little more violence and horror. More cleavage too.

They werent remaking franchises they just had sequels come out a few years ago. It seems pointless to me to remake a Jason film. When F vs J isnt even old. The Friday remake really didnt do anything great for the Jason franchise.

correct me if im wrong, but the main difference is universal is an american production company and hammer is british. they werent trying to tap into the same audience twice.

yes im aware that the universal films were made by euro-directors but still, the production company had the biggest stamp back then.