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sarah1980
03-23-2009, 09:05 PM
from IMDB.com

Oscar-winning moviemakers Joel and Ethan Coen are to remake John Wayne's iconic western True Grit.

The brothers will direct their own version of the movie, which earned Wayne his only Best Actor Oscar in 1970.

However, the Coens' project will be a departure from Wayne's film - they will base their story more closely to Charles Portis' book about a 14-year-old girl who tracks down her father's killer.

The film will reteam the brothers with producer Scott Rudin, their partner on the Oscar-winning No Country for Old Men.

Casting for the True Grit remake has yet to be determined.

yup i will kill them if they do this

Sigur509
03-23-2009, 09:08 PM
Its the Coen Brothers, so Im already there.

They could remake TDK, and my ass would be first in line.

Spice
03-23-2009, 09:14 PM
I don't really like remakes of classics and this could be really dodgy but I suppose it is in good hands....
Plus if they are faithful to the book it should be different enough....hopefully.

MisterChristian
03-23-2009, 09:25 PM
Its the Coen Brothers, so Im already there.

They could remake TDK, and my ass would be first in line.

Nice. Me too.

biff_debris
03-23-2009, 09:45 PM
LOL, I can just imagine a Coen Bros. version of Watchmen: Frances Mc Dormand as the first Silk Spectre, Turturro as Manhattan, Buscemi as Rorschach?

In any case, this sounds awesome.

sbunn10
03-23-2009, 10:08 PM
I agree with Sigur, anything the Coens make, I'm there.

LordSimen
03-23-2009, 10:11 PM
The Coens could remake Citizen Kane and I wouldn't be against it. They're at that level for me.

JoeChar4321
03-23-2009, 11:50 PM
This news literally makes me want to puke.

Why mess with a classic? True Grit is near perfection, with John Wayne winning a well deserved Oscar. If you want to see the story, just rent that film.

The Coens messing with the character of Rooster Cogburn is as bad as someone down the line remaking Indiana Jones (with the movie from Short Round's point of view or Michael Corleone (with the movie from Fredo's point of view).

The Coens will butcher this, without a doubt. Does Rooster Cogburn get killed off screen leaving Mattie to quit going after Tom Chaney now?

:mad:

overwatch
03-24-2009, 12:58 AM
The Coens will butcher this, without a doubt. Does Rooster Cogburn get killed off screen leaving Mattie to quit going after Tom Chaney now?

:mad:
This'll be the new "Heath Ledger won't win an oscar" post.

electriclite
03-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Double-dy Double-dy

electriclite
03-24-2009, 01:46 AM
LOL, I can just imagine a Coen Bros. version of Watchmen: Frances Mc Dormand as the first Silk Spectre, Turturro as Manhattan, Buscemi as Rorschach?

In any case, this sounds awesome.
I weep at this lost opportunity.


I'm not a western fan at all, and I've never seen True Grit, so I can be more open to this. but by and large anything the Coens get involved in is automatically highly anticipated by me. I'm intrigued by how they'll execute this version.

DaMovieMan
03-24-2009, 02:04 AM
I never liked John Wayne, his screen presence always bothered me. So i stayed away from most of his westerns, including True Grit which i've never even actually heard of until I saw the article on joblo's main page (that's how much away i stay away from John Wayne, yes).

The Coens are an amazing filmmaking duo, with their last Burn After Reading being an instant classic. I'm one of those that believe No Country to be overrated in general but still a good film in its own right.

I'll be watching this one for sure...

dennisv
03-24-2009, 02:06 AM
The Coens could remake Citizen Kane and I wouldn't be against it. They're at that level for me.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.





Whoa.

DaMovieMan
03-24-2009, 02:14 AM
dennisv......meet LordSimen.....

APzombie
03-24-2009, 02:34 AM
The Coens could remake Citizen Kane and I wouldn't be against it. They're at that level for me.

same here. Usually remakes are done by inferior filmmakers riding on the greatness of the films they are remaking. you know if the coens remake a classic than there is a reason for it.

nickula11
03-24-2009, 03:56 AM
Joel and Ethan are second only to PTA as my favorite filmmakers. They seem to have excellent sensibilities as writer/directors and I totally trust them. I wish they'd make more films than they already do and they never seem to stop making 'em.
I'm looking forward to A Serious Man's trailer...

Cosimo
03-24-2009, 04:14 AM
great news, to anyone that has doubt did you not see no country...??

Pentangeli
03-24-2009, 05:38 AM
Some here seem to think the Coen's shit don't stink. They've made one classic (Fargo), two good ones (Miller's Crossing, and No Country for Old Men), and the rest were pretty damn average (incl. the much overrated pair of Lebowski and Fink). Nothing about them makes me optimistic about their future films. Their films are hit or miss, and their last remake was definitely a MISS.

Cosimo
03-24-2009, 05:57 AM
Some here seem to think the Coen's shit don't stink. They've made one classic (Fargo), two good ones (Miller's Crossing, and No Country for Old Men), and the rest were pretty damn average (incl. the much overrated pair of Lebowski and Fink). Nothing about them makes me optimistic about their future films. Their films are hit or miss, and their last remake was definitely a MISS.

it's a serious western and they seem to be adapting the book like no country rather than remaking the film

i agree that their comedies are hit and miss but i'm positive this will be amazing

God of War
03-24-2009, 06:13 AM
Well, their next three projects are as follows:

Suburbicon (2009) (in production)
Hail Caesar (2009) (pre-production)
A Serious Man (2009) (post-production)

I guess that True Grit will be shoved in there somewhere :D

Monotreme
03-24-2009, 11:21 AM
Actually, aside from the upcoming A Serious Man, to be released this year, the Coens were supposed to work on an adaptation of Michael Chabon's The Yiddish Policemen's Reunion, one of the most brilliant novels I've ever read. So while I'm kind of disappointing, it's only because that movie will be delayed.

Honestly, I don't know what everyone's on about. They've already said that their adaptation will be completely different than the John Wayne movie and told from the point of view of the girl, i.e. being more faithful to the source material; also, I would in an INSTANT leap on the chance to see the Coens direct an all-out Western; they've dabbed in the genre before, but only with post-modern versions of it like No Country, so this'll definitely be interesting and good. It's the Coen Brothers - I can't wait!

arto_j
03-24-2009, 01:20 PM
Well, True Grit is a decent movie but hardly a classic so it's not a terrible choice for remaking.

Their last remake didn't turn out that great, but I am pretty excited at another Coen western. I thought they'd make The Yiddish Policemen's Union first though.

Well, at this point whatever it is they make I'll be there opening day.

DME
03-24-2009, 01:48 PM
The Coens messing with the character of Rooster Cogburn is as bad as someone down the line remaking Indiana Jones (with the movie from Short Round's point of view or Michael Corleone (with the movie from Fredo's point of view).


Actually it would be like remaking Indiana Jones with the movie from Short Round's point of view if there was an original Indiana Jones novel that actually was from Short Round's point of view, and so they wanted to remake the movie to be closer to the novel.

So um... yeah...

FLAME_ON
03-24-2009, 03:36 PM
Could be worse right? Could be The Searchers?

I'm more concerned who would replace Wayne... that seems to be the real issue. Rooster J. Cogburn is a fairly definitive character.

Le_Big_Mac
03-24-2009, 09:05 PM
Who cares that it's a remake? The Coen Brothers directing an actual western is a dream come true.

poopontheshoes7
03-24-2009, 11:15 PM
Never was a fan of Wayne, so this is good news to me. A period western by the Coens? Hell ya!

The Postmaster General
03-24-2009, 11:15 PM
When was Barton Fink ever overrated? The only time it ever got any play was during Cannes and that was like 18 years ago. Calling Fink overrated is totally nuts, especially in a post rating it lower than No Country For Old Men.

Sonny Corleone
03-24-2009, 11:55 PM
It's not a remake it's based on the book and probably will have very little in common with the John Wayne vehicle.

Pentangeli
03-25-2009, 04:00 AM
When was Barton Fink ever overrated? The only time it ever got any play was during Cannes and that was like 18 years ago. Calling Fink overrated is totally nuts, especially in a post rating it lower than No Country For Old Men.

Easy there, Bubba. Fink's got a high 7 on IMDb, a 91 on RT, and one of those Palme D'Or things. Now I can only measure it by my view, and I find it [your favourite film in the whole wide world] o-ver-ra-ted.

Canto
03-25-2009, 04:20 AM
I wouldnt consider this a remake if the original was based on a book and since they said they are gonna make it more faithful to the book, Im all for it, plus I havent seen the John Wayne one so I dont care either way :) I too will see anything the Coen Bros. make, I cant wait for A Serious Man.

God of War
03-25-2009, 06:04 AM
This actually sounds quite promising to me.

The new film will not be a traditional remake. Instead, Paramount is planning to base it on the Charles Portis book than the 1969 pic, which was also distributed by Paramount. Portis' novel is about a 14-year-old girl who, along with an aging US marshal and another lawman, tracks her father's killer in hostile Indian territory. But while the original film focused on Wayne, the Coens' version will tell the tale from the girl's point of view.

http://www.worstpreviews.com/headline.php?id=12654&count=44

The Postmaster General
03-25-2009, 04:39 PM
Easy there, Bubba. Fink's got a high 7 on IMDb, a 91 on RT, and one of those Palme D'Or things. Now I can only measure it by my view, and I find it [your favourite film in the whole wide world] o-ver-ra-ted.


What do you mean, "Easy there..."? Don't play that Barry White stuff with me because I doubt your pubic hairs are relaxed enough to pull it off.

Fargo and No Country are the highest rated of all their films. Awards, critics, fans, box office receipts, video rentals, awards --- they all creamed Barton Fink when it came to being rated and ranked, but those are the movies you praise while saying Barton Fink is overrated.

Fink's IMDb rating is pretty much in the middle of their filmography, rated below the movies of theirs you praised, and only barely above their least liked movies (1.5/10 above Ladykillers).

I'm not a fan of the term overrated, but calling Barton Fink overrated in the same post as saying No Country For Old Men is a better movie is a pretty outlandish statement. Just looking at IMdb, only 26k people have voted on Fink, giving it that "high 7", whereas 155k have voted on No Country, putting it #104 of the top movies on IMDb (Fink doesn't rate on that list) -- On Rotten Tomatoes, where Fink has a 91% (out of 46 reviews), No Country has a 94% (out of 214 reviews).

It doesn't make a difference that Fink is my favorite movie, though it is kind of funny that you were so quick to bring up that it was obviously with the sincerest intentions... I've spoken up on other statements where the barometer for stating a movie is overrated seemed like it was chosen by a monkey operating a ferris wheel after eating the sugarcubes from Wavy Gravy's hip sack.

Either way, no bother, I just think calling an average-rated film in a filmmaker's filmography "overrated" when saying you prefer their films that are rated higher is pretty obviously ri-dic-u-lous, and I'm pretty sure that's not just my view.

Reigh Kaufman
03-25-2009, 05:06 PM
Barton Fink is horribly un-der-ra-ted. But this new fad for writing in syllables is fucking jazzy.

True Grit, meanwhile, was a steaming pile of horseshit and undeniable proof that John Wayne is so awful he could even manage to fuck up a bowl of cornflakes.

(The Searchers et al are great in spite of him).

-prepares to fight by listening to The Quiet Man brawl music-

g1ng3rsnap9ed
03-25-2009, 05:08 PM
The Coens messing with the character of Rooster Cogburn is as bad as someone down the line remaking Indiana Jones (with the movie from Short Round's point of view or Michael Corleone (with the movie from Fredo's point of view).

:mad:

I'm afraid that I believe in due time Indiana Jones will be getting the remake treatment, as well as Jaws, The Godfather, and Animal House-which will star Jonah Hill and Tara Reeves.

Pentangeli
03-25-2009, 08:37 PM
Either way, no bother, I just think calling an average-rated film in a filmmaker's filmography "overrated" when saying you prefer their films that are rated higher is pretty obviously ri-dic-u-lous, and I'm pretty sure that's not just my view.

I can only give my opinion. In my opinion, No Country and Fargo are rated just about right by critics and filmsites.

With Fink, the majority of critics' rating is higher than mine for the film, that's all.

Va-li-um

:D

Pentangeli
03-25-2009, 08:44 PM
I'm afraid that I believe in due time Indiana Jones will be getting the remake treatment, as well as Jaws.

A Jaws remake could be quite good, depends on the director. That robotic shark gets annoying. But I doubt they'll ever improve the Quint character.

biff_debris
03-25-2009, 08:58 PM
A Jaws remake could be quite good, depends on the director. That robotic shark gets annoying. But I doubt they'll ever improve the Quint character.

No-no-no. Robert Shaw pwns us all.

God of War
03-25-2009, 09:13 PM
Isn't there a Jaws remake planned? I'm pretty sure someone on this message board posted about it. But to me the original will always be the best.

poopontheshoes7
03-25-2009, 11:32 PM
A Jaws remake could be quite good, depends on the director. That robotic shark gets annoying. But I doubt they'll ever improve the Quint character.

*Tries to control murderous rage*






:)

The Postmaster General
03-26-2009, 02:00 AM
I can only give my opinion. In my opinion, No Country and Fargo are rated just about right by critics and filmsites.

With Fink, the majority of critics' rating is higher than mine for the film, that's all.

Va-li-um

:D




I know where you are coming from, and it's that you think the Coen Bros. in general are overrated. I'm saying that I think singling out Fink as being overrated makes no sense in that regard.

Valium? What are you, some kind of long hair?

DarthWade
03-26-2009, 02:39 PM
First there's the news about Penn, Del Toro and Carrey in The Three Stooges and now this. I feel like I'm in Bizarro World today.

I love the Coen Bros, so I would see this anyways but how reliable is the source from IMDB?

Man what a weird day...

CriticalBill6966
03-26-2009, 06:50 PM
Anything with John Wayne sucks. A remake of a John Wayne movie WITHOUT John Wayne is already going to be a better movie.

Plus with the Coens, you can't go wrong.

John Wayne Movie - John Wayne + Coens = Good Movie.

killuminati003
03-29-2009, 11:27 AM
Seems to me like it's not a remake but another adaptation of a book.

And these guys are two of the most talented filmmakers working today, so until they give me a reason to do otherwise, I'm going to be behind just about any project they come up with.

Mr. Mxyzptlk
03-29-2009, 11:59 AM
First of all, True Grit is far from a perfect film. It is a good movie, but largely a showcase for John Wayne in one of his last performances. I have not read the book, but based on the news there is far more to it than the 1969 film. The Coens' decision to make this film isn't so much to remake the '69 film and leech off of the success of a classic, but to do their own take on the book. After their success with adapting No Country For Old Men, and the fact that Westerns are sorely missed in this era, I don't see how this is anything but good news.

bigred760
03-29-2009, 01:28 PM
Considering that it's the Coens, I'm there. And like people have said, the Coens are not updating the movie, but readapting the book. If anything Rooster Cogburn would be a supporting character in their movie.

And True Grit isn't even John Wayne's best performance; he was better in The Searchers, She Wore a Yellow RIbbon, and The Quiet Man.

Art Vandelay
03-29-2009, 01:58 PM
Go get 'em, guys.

If the Coen's made a movie about a guy making breakfast I'd be down to see it. In my book, they're second to Kubrick in the history of filmmakers. Yes, I'm serious.

overwatch
03-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Ideally I'd rather them do their own original westnern. But it's the Coen brothers doing a western so you can't really go wrong.

legato
03-30-2009, 02:01 AM
First of all, True Grit is far from a perfect film. It is a good movie, but largely a showcase for John Wayne in one of his last performances. I have not read the book, but based on the news there is far more to it than the 1969 film. The Coens' decision to make this film isn't so much to remake the '69 film and leech off of the success of a classic, but to do their own take on the book. After their success with adapting No Country For Old Men, and the fact that Westerns are sorely missed in this era, I don't see how this is anything but good news.
My opinion.

Jon Lyrik
03-30-2009, 06:09 AM
Anything with John Wayne sucks. A remake of a John Wayne movie WITHOUT John Wayne is already going to be a better movie.

Plus with the Coens, you can't go wrong.

John Wayne Movie - John Wayne + Coens = Good Movie.

The Searchers?

Rated R
03-30-2009, 10:08 AM
This whole 'outrage' over a re-make is getting silly. In no way does it de-value the original. The original is still there and will not change in spite of what the Coen Brothers do with their version.

And like it was already said this is more of a second adaptation of a novel as opposed to a straight re-make. So really, how is this a big deal? The incessant whining about re-makes is ridiculous. Why does it bother you, really? Watch it. If you hate it, fine, but judge it on its own merits instead of your assumptions of how it will tarnish the golden history of cinema.


Also...this is going to seem petty but I really can't stand when people spell filmmakers' names wrong, especially on a site like this. It doesn't take any real time to make sure. The Coen Brothers are among the most misspelled. Nicolas Cage is another (there is no H). It's as bad as football fans spelling Brett Favre's name Farve.

Beard_of_Meat
03-30-2009, 11:00 AM
The Coens could remake Citizen Kane and I wouldn't be against it. They're at that level for me.

same here. Usually remakes are done by inferior filmmakers riding on the greatness of the films they are remaking. you know if the coens remake a classic than there is a reason for it.


I couldn't have said it better myself...Personally I haven't seen a Coen Brothers film I haven't liked yet

overwatch
03-31-2009, 04:37 AM
This whole 'outrage' over a re-make is getting silly. In no way does it de-value the original. The original is still there and will not change in spite of what the Coen Brothers do with their version.

And like it was already said this is more of a second adaptation of a novel as opposed to a straight re-make. So really, how is this a big deal? The incessant whining about re-makes is ridiculous. Why does it bother you, really? Watch it. If you hate it, fine, but judge it on its own merits instead of your assumptions of how it will tarnish the golden history of cinema.


Also...this is going to seem petty but I really can't stand when people spell filmmakers' names wrong, especially on a site like this. It doesn't take any real time to make sure. The Coen Brothers are among the most misspelled. Nicolas Cage is another (there is no H). It's as bad as football fans spelling Brett Favre's name Farve. So you dislike people's views on remakes but you have a strong stance against those that can't spell people's names correctly? I think you have your ideals confused there.

Rated R
03-31-2009, 08:02 AM
So you dislike people's views on remakes but you have a strong stance against those that can't spell people's names correctly? I think you have your ideals confused there.


That makes no sense. They have nothing to do with each other at all. I was simply stating I think people get carried away with their hate of re-makes as though it was a crime against humanity. The spelling thing is more of a pet peeve of mine. I don't get what the point of your reply is.

HockeyHead
03-31-2009, 11:25 AM
Anything with John Wayne sucks. A remake of a John Wayne movie WITHOUT John Wayne is already going to be a better movie.

I have no problems with the Coens re-telling True Grit. It's not the best of the Wayne library to begin with. They only gave him the Oscar that year cuz they knew they needed to give him one before he passed away (which he did 10 years later)

And to say "anything with Wayne sucks" is just stupid. Plain & simple.

The Postmaster General
04-01-2009, 02:34 AM
So what do you guys think of the proposed Apatow remake of Dog Day Afternoon?

sarah1980
04-01-2009, 02:36 AM
So what do you guys think of the proposed Apatow remake of Dog Day Afternoon?

dude please tell me that's a big fucking joke :eek:

Canto
04-01-2009, 03:58 PM
no i heard about that, it should be pretty good. Seth Rogen will be playing Al Pacino's part.

Terminal_83
03-18-2010, 06:31 PM
Hopefully this will fail. They remade "The Ladykillers" and that sucked.

APzombie
03-18-2010, 06:43 PM
i actually loved The Ladykillers. I mean it's certainly not their best, it's probably their second or third weakest, but i couldn't help but laugh the whole time. the design, the music, the editing. hilarious. aside from being a remake of a peter sellers classic, its not the sin people say it is.

i'm actually really looking forward to true grit. hey, i'm a huge duke fan, but true grit ain't rio bravo or the searchers. it's a good movie, but not an untouched masterpiece.

the cast for the remake is astounding too.

Terminal_83
03-18-2010, 06:45 PM
If you've ever seen the original Ladykillers I'm pretty sure you'd know that it was a piss poor remake and was not funny at all. Hanks is an excellent actor but he can not match the comedic timing of Alec Guiness. And you also can't beat Peter Sellers or Herbert Lom. The original had me in tears, this movie had me homicidal.

JoeChar4321
03-19-2010, 12:31 AM
yup i will kill them if they do this

How's the murder plot turning out? If you need a place to hide after the deed you can use my basement for as long as you like! ;)

Also, if you want to take out a few of these "John Wayne sucks" posting dipwads along the way, I'm sure no one will mind.

corran horn
03-19-2010, 09:46 AM
If only to spite the OP, the Coens have my unconditional blessing in this endeavor. The original, while good, was far from great, and the new one's cast is far better than their equivalents in the original (save for Robert Duvall, though Brolin's career now is at roughly the same place Duvall's was in 1969). Wayne was already on his way out when the original was released, and it showed. While Wayne did some great films earlier in his career, True Grit was not among them.

viceus
03-19-2010, 04:10 PM
No complaints. This is how I like The Coens.

Blood Simple, Barton Fink, Fargo, and No Country For Old Men are their greatest achievements. To be honest, I'm not too keen on much else from them. O Brother, Where Art Thou?, The Ladykillers, Intolerable Cruelty, Burn After Reading, and A Serious Man (which I hate), just aren't very good films.

Oh, and I think I'm the only human being who doesn't like The Big Lebowski.

I've just read an in-depth summary of the novel and it sounds like typical fare, yet No Country For Old Men followed an incredibly straighforward narrative, never hindering the films excellence. This is one I'm for.

JumpSpider
03-19-2010, 05:39 PM
A Serious Man (which I hate):(

I'm really starting to feel like the only person that actually loved that movie, and I love it to death. It's quickly becoming my favorite Coens picture.

The only movies of theirs I've ever disliked are Intolerable Cruelty (completely forgettable) and The Ladykillers (but I'm really in love with the original and I'm really not a Hanks fan). Everything else is like to love. Plus John Wayne movies are generally terrible, so I can't see too many ways to screw this project up.

Those Cohn Brothers better watch their backs though, if they know what's good for them.

Monotreme
03-19-2010, 08:34 PM
:(

I'm really starting to feel like the only person that actually loved that movie, and I love it to death. It's quickly becoming my favorite Coens picture.

It was just outside my top 5 of 2009, and I personally felt that it was one of their greatest films. I have been itching to give it a re-watch ever since I first saw it a few months ago: it's certainly their most philosophical loaded-with-ideas film, and that's saying a lot coming from the Coens. I am sad that viceus didn't like O Brother, though. That really is a gem of a film.

I actually don't overtly DISLIKE any Coens film. Intolerable Cruelty was lesser work but it is also absolutely HILARIOUS, and The Ladykillers is also a lesser work but still features some strokes of genius with the cinematography, music and characterizations. Both are solid 7/10 for me. And no Coen movie has received a lower rating than that.

So suffice it to say that I am totally excited about True Grit. Hell, I haven't even SEEN the original, but I have total faith in the brothers, and the cast alone would be enough to get me in that seat, but with the Coens and their usual team on board as well, it's even more inviting. I can't WAIT to see it!

Bourne101
03-19-2010, 08:38 PM
:(

I'm really starting to feel like the only person that actually loved that movie, and I love it to death. It's quickly becoming my favorite Coens picture.

It was #4 on my top 10 of 2009. I absolutely loved the hell out of it, and it gets better with each viewing. You're not alone.

Reigh Kaufman
03-19-2010, 08:40 PM
It was #4 on my top 10 of 2009. I absolutely loved the hell out of it, and it gets better with each viewing. You're not alone.

Top twenty.

We're starting a movement here, fellas.

JumpSpider
03-19-2010, 09:47 PM
What is this strange new feeling I'm experiencing? It's some kind of... warmth?

The Postmaster General
03-20-2010, 01:38 AM
Also...this is going to seem petty but I really can't stand when people spell filmmakers' names wrong, especially on a site like this. It doesn't take any real time to make sure. The Coen Brothers are among the most misspelled. Nicolas Cage is another (there is no H). It's as bad as football fans spelling Brett Favre's name Farve.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxFQcxy2jFg

Canto
03-20-2010, 04:42 AM
Top twenty.

We're starting a movement here, fellas.

#9 in my Top 10 of the year, i loved it too.

JoeChar4321
03-20-2010, 04:47 PM
If only to spite the OP, the Coens have my unconditional blessing in this endeavor. The original, while good, was far from great, and the new one's cast is far better than their equivalents in the original (save for Robert Duvall, though Brolin's career now is at roughly the same place Duvall's was in 1969). Wayne was already on his way out when the original was released, and it showed. While Wayne did some great films earlier in his career, True Grit was not among them.

Hell, John Wayne's Oscar for his performance was more than warranted. That was back when Oscar meant something, not like NCFOM's fraudulent win. :cool:

The REAL True Grit > every Coen film combined to date. Sorry Fargo fans.

Frosty_86
03-20-2010, 05:05 PM
As Ive said on another board Im not big John Wayne fan, in fact for the most I hate his movies with the exception of a few. So with that said Im all for a remake of True Grit, especially considering it's based on the book (I would like to read the book) and not a direct remake of the film. Apparently the movie is a complete bastardization of the book and the Coen Brothers have said that it will be a direct adaptation from the book which apparently is very dark and gritty. Something the Coen Brothers do very well. I love the Coen Brothers, Ill see any thing they do and I think a movie like this (listening to people describe the book to me) is perfect for them. The cast is amazing as well; Jeff Bridges, Matt Damon, and Josh Brolin.

APzombie
03-20-2010, 06:04 PM
If you've ever seen the original Ladykillers I'm pretty sure you'd know that it was a piss poor remake and was not funny at all. Hanks is an excellent actor but he can not match the comedic timing of Alec Guiness. And you also can't beat Peter Sellers or Herbert Lom. The original had me in tears, this movie had me homicidal.

peter sellers is my favorite actor and i love the original, but the sensibilities in the approach to the material were different, and they were supposed to be different. it's not a movie worth arguing for, but i'd be lying if i said i didn't have a hell of a good time watching it.

Sheriff Jigsaw
03-20-2010, 06:54 PM
I love the original & it's one of the remakes that sought of does make sense bring it on.

Cenopath
03-21-2010, 10:04 PM
Hell, John Wayne's Oscar for his performance was more than warranted. That was back when Oscar meant something, not like NCFOM's fraudulent win. :cool:

Even the Academy privately admitted that Wayne's performance in that movie was crap. The only reason why they gave Wayne the Oscar was because the old bastard never got one in his life before, and the Academy wanted to acknowledge his legacy. The Duke was good in his own right as an action hero, but from a technical standpoint, he was (and still is) one of the worst actors ever.

And the Academy was actually worse back then. No Best Actor Oscar(s) for Cary Grant, yet Barbara-fucking-Streisand, of all people, has the shiny bald man on her coffee table. I really don't know how those people sleep at night.

Dutchman
03-21-2010, 10:15 PM
Hell, John Wayne's Oscar for his performance was more than warranted. That was back when Oscar meant something, not like NCFOM's fraudulent win. :cool:

The REAL True Grit > every Coen film combined to date. Sorry Fargo fans.

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drc5145
03-21-2010, 10:43 PM
Hell, John Wayne's Oscar for his performance was more than warranted. That was back when Oscar meant something, not like NCFOM's fraudulent win. :cool:

The REAL True Grit > every Coen film combined to date. Sorry Fargo fans.

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Monotreme
03-22-2010, 01:12 PM
The REAL True Grit > every Coen film combined to date. Sorry Fargo fans.

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Squid Vicious
03-22-2010, 01:33 PM
I might as well join in...

Hell, John Wayne's Oscar for his performance was more than warranted. That was back when Oscar meant something, not like NCFOM's fraudulent win. :cool:

The REAL True Grit > every Coen film combined to date. Sorry Fargo fans.

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