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Homyrrh
04-28-2009, 12:50 PM
(from The New York Times (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/28/specter-will-run-as-a-democrat-in-2010/?hp))

April 28, 2009, 12:13 pm
Specter To Switch Parties
By Carl Hulse


Senator Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania said on Tuesday he would switch to the Democratic party, presenting Democrats with a possible 60th vote and the power to break Senate filibusters as they try to advance the Obama administration’s new agenda.

In a statement issued about noon as the Capitol was digesting the stunning turn of events, Mr. Specter said he had concluded that his party had moved too far to the right, a fact demonstrated by the migration of 200,000 Pennsylvania Republicans to the Democratic Party.

“I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans,” Mr. Specter said, acknowledging that his decision was certain to disappoint colleagues and supporters.

If Al Franken prevails in his ongoing court case in Minnesota and Mr. Specter begins caucusing with Democrats, Democrats would have 60 votes and the ability to deny Republicans the chance to stall legislation. Mr. Specter was one of only three Republicans to support President Obama’s economic recovery legislation.

The news shocked Senate Republicans, who had been hanging on to their ability to block legislation by a thread. Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the Republican leader, called an emergency meeting of party leaders who had no forewarning of Mr. Specter’s plans.

Mr. Specter arrived for a vote shortly after noon with his wife, and said he would be lunching in the private Senate dining room rather than joining either of the weekly party policy lunches that were being held.

Democrats were jubilant about the development.

President Obama was handed a note from an aide at 10:25 a.m. on Tuesday during his daily economic briefing. The note, according to a senior administration official, said: “Specter is announcing he is changing parties.”

Seven minutes later, Mr. Obama reached Mr. Specter by telephone. In a brief conversation, the president said: “You have my full support,” according to the official who heard the phone call. The president added that we are, “thrilled to have you.”

“We will welcome him with open arms,” said Senator Debbie Stabenow, Democrat of Michigan.

Mr. Specter faced a primary challenge from former Republican Congressman Pat Toomey and polls showed him trailing Mr. Toomey. But he had previously resisted overtures to join the Democrats.

“Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to
become Democrats,” Mr. Specter said in a statement released in the early afternoon. “I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans.”

He said he has experienced a change of heart since the response to his vote for the stimulus legislation.

“Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public opinion,” his statement said. “It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate.”

Mr. Specter, who has a history of finding his own way in the Senate, said he would not be a guaranteed vote for Democratic initiatives and he declared that he would remain opposed to a top labor priority – legislation that would make it easier to unionize American workplaces.

“Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President Kennedy’s statement that sometimes party asks too much,” Mr. Specter said. “When it does, I will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I think is best for Pennsylvania and America.”

The turnabout was reminiscent of the decision in 2001 by Senator Jim Jeffords of Vermont to leave the Republican party and become an independent, handing control of the Senate back to Democrats just as President George W. Bush’s first term was beginning. The Jeffords switch flipped party control but some Democrats said Mr. Specter’s move could be just as consequential given the Senate’s recent struggles with filibusters.

“Specter’s decision could be more consequential because it came just as the Senate was beginning work on health care reform,” said Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon. “Specter’s decision is a big impact decision.”

Mr. Specter’s move to the Democratic column is likely to have a chilling effect on other potential Democratic candidates for the Senate. So far, Joseph Torsella, former head of the National Constitution Center and a former deputy mayor of Philadelphia, is the only Democrat to have declared his candidacy.

Others with higher name recognition seem to have been holding back to see how the field would shape up. Even before Mr. Specter announced his switch today, Representative Allyson Schwartz, a Democrat representing parts of Philadelphia and the nearby suburbs, had told The New York Times she was unlikely to make the run. Other possibilities, including Representatives Patrick Murphy and Joe Sestak, had also stayed mum.

Gov. Edward G. Rendell, a Democrat, and Vice President Joseph Biden, both of them long-time friends of Mr. Specter, had urged him to switch parties several weeks ago but Mr. Specter declined. Mr. Rendell said in a recent interview that he had promised Mr. Specter that if he became a Democrat, he would help him raise money; Mr. Specter joked that if he became a Democrat, he wouldn’t need Mr. Rendell’s help on that front.

There had been speculation in Pennsylvania political circles that something was afoot because Mr. Torsella, a close colleague of Mr. Rendell, said little about Mr. Specter when he announced his candidacy.

But Mr. Specter put the kibosh on talk that he might leave the Republican Party and become either a Democrat or an independent, insisting, though without much evidence, that there was room in the Republican Party for moderates.

The move brings Mr. Specter full circle with his earlier political leanings. He was a registered Democrat when he first ran for district attorney of Philadelphia in the mid-1960s, though he ran on the Republican line.

screamer581
04-28-2009, 01:46 PM
Looks like the dems will be getting to the "magical" 60 before 2010. Well, if Franken is ever seated that is. Damn Minnesota.


As for Specter, he was always one of the few tolerable republicans in the senate, so cool I guess.


Hey, maybe with the 60 votes Obama can get his Health Care bill passed. Yay Specter!

Brando @$$ Fat
04-28-2009, 02:05 PM
This has been a problem in the Republican party for some time. Even John McCain had strongly considered leaving, and had talked about it with other Democrats. He didn't, of course, but if the eventual nominee of their party actual considered leaving at one point, it says quite a bit about how exclusionary they've become.

Obviously, this was also a political move on his part. The Republican party in Pennsylvania is incredibly far-right, and it's a miracle that he survived as long as he did.

Potter82
04-28-2009, 03:36 PM
I was shocked by this news.

I expected that Specter would lose the primary, run as an independent (just like Lieberman did when he was ousted), & that either Specter or the unnamed dem would win. But to actually switch parties, I did not expect that....

The big loser in all this is the Republican Party - they are short 1 less Senator now.

This is an example of why I don't think the Republicans have been behaving very rationally since they lost the election - they need to expand the number of their supporters and by having such a hostile attitude towards moderates, they are just going to alienate more people.

Clearly their desire for 100% ideological and dogmatic purity forced Specter's hands. This is just a high profile example of what has been happening over the last few years - for instance, ever notice that the number of self-identified Republicans has bottomed out? Many conservatives would rather refer to themselves as independents than Republicans. It seems that rather than remaining the big tent party, the Republicans are hell-bent on becoming the sleeping bag party.

Even though I'm an Obama supporter, my hope is that rational/sane conservatives say "screw this shit" break off and form their own party which is less invested in social issues and is far more pragmatic and less ideologically rigid - b/c a 1 party system isn't good for anyone really. I am sure there is room for a party that say, preaches the value of limited yet efficient government rather than a party which says government as a very concept is a problem.

The Heart Collector
04-28-2009, 07:21 PM
The Republicans need to get away from the mentality they had during the Bush years, which was that they wanted to achieve 100% of their goals by having 100% of their members support them.

The Democrats' way is infinitely more frustrating (only achieving SOME of your goals by only having SOME of your members support them), but probably longer-lasting.

Reigh Kaufman
04-28-2009, 07:29 PM
Crossing the floor is something that I find a fraction distasteful unless the motives are clearly done with best intentions. I would prefer to try and get my party's belief system back on track. If that is impossible, then I find it admirable.

It's a difficult thing to become a pariah to one party and a suspect to another.

Good on him?

The Heart Collector
04-28-2009, 07:32 PM
I don't think party purity is necessarily a desired goal. Specter is well-liked in his state, and if he is re-elected as a Democrat, then that's just the way it is. Most voters, after all, don't elect a public official so that he can further the purity of some grand national party plan.

Reigh Kaufman
04-28-2009, 07:38 PM
I don't think party purity is necessarily a desired goal. Specter is well-liked in his state, and if he is re-elected as a Democrat, then that's just the way it is.

Absolutely.

I was just thinking of my grandfather - a union leader; believed in the Labour government, who ultimately could not save the workers prepared to starve during the miners' strike; a highly principled old bastard - who once told me "Any man who can change his football team is not a man".

I just hope that Specter is not just changing his football team.

Badbird
04-28-2009, 07:49 PM
I was shocked by this news.

I expected that Specter would lose the primary, run as an independent (just like Lieberman did when he was ousted)....

Apparently the rules in Pennsylvania are different and you can't do that.

But just because he switched doesn't mean he'll vote with the party every time. He was always a swing vote anyway, regardless of his official party.

Brando @$$ Fat
04-28-2009, 11:02 PM
Absolutely.

I was just thinking of my grandfather - a union leader; believed in the Labour government, who ultimately could not save the workers prepared to starve during the miners' strike; a highly principled old bastard - who once told me "Any man who can change his football team is not a man".

I just hope that Specter is not just changing his football team.


The football metaphor doesn't apply to Specter at all, though. It's not just switching teams because one team is doing better than another. It's more a matter of being totally hated by the team you're on, and finding your future in sports jeopardized by just being on that team. Specter has absolutely no reason to stay with the Republican party. He shouldn't have to sacrifice his political future by staying with a fractured party that doesn't even like him.

Potter82
04-29-2009, 01:45 PM
Here's a really good article I read today from the New York Times from a person who is in perhaps the best position to empathize with Specter, Sen. Olympia Snowe;

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/29/opinion/29snowe.html?_r=1

Do you think the GOP will heed her words? For some reason, I think Steele, Gingrich, Limbaugh, Rove, etc. will ignore it's substance and just use the fact that it appeared in the New York Times as an additional reason to call her out as a rino.

Jon Lyrik
04-29-2009, 08:20 PM
I'd start being alarmed if Olympia Snowe jumps ship too.

Actually, northeastern Republicans are normally quite a bit more moderate, if only because they couldn't get elected otherwise.

The Heart Collector
04-29-2009, 08:24 PM
The football metaphor doesn't apply to Specter at all, though. It's not just switching teams because one team is doing better than another. It's more a matter of being totally hated by the team you're on, and finding your future in sports jeopardized by just being on that team. Specter has absolutely no reason to stay with the Republican party. He shouldn't have to sacrifice his political future by staying with a fractured party that doesn't even like him.

He's eighty years old. His only future is to die.

Brando @$$ Fat
04-29-2009, 10:18 PM
He's eighty years old. His only future is to die.

He's not even the oldest person in the Senate. Some of these people serve until they're practically dead. Robert Byrd can barely be considered a functioning human being, but he's still a Senator. The more years he serves, the greater his legacy (whatever that may be) can potentially be.

Potter82
04-30-2009, 01:19 AM
I'd start being alarmed if Olympia Snowe jumps ship too.

Actually, northeastern Republicans are normally quite a bit more moderate, if only because they couldn't get elected otherwise.

That's the problem though, the only way a lot of Republicans can ever get elected in the country is if they are moderate. People like the ultra-right wing Club for Growth though have been fielding Republilcan candidates who are very popular among primary voters but are totally ailenating to general election voters. That is exactly what happened with Specter. The Club for Growth was going to field a ultra conservative named Toomey against Specter who, in the words of fellow GOP Sen. Hatch, stood almost zero chance of being elected in a general election.

The GOP base is completely out of sync with the rest of the country and will prevent many decent electable candidates from ever having a shot.

It's only a matter of time before these hyper-partisian morons alienate Snowe and Collins, etc.

The current GOP can best be described as a lot who sees absoutely nothing wrong with the US other than the fact that taxes are too high. Other than that everything is just fucking super!

I couldn't imagine a more contemptable, Orwellian party if I tried.

gayzilla
04-30-2009, 06:06 PM
Yeah, they basically said to Snowe, "Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out". Boy, what an inclusive party. I had a hard time voting for Snowe, simply because of the R in her name, though I usually agree with her. With the republicans numbers as small as they are becoming you would thing they would want to try to keep members around. It is basically a regional party now. If Ron Paul were to leave and found a stronger Libertarian party, that would be the death toll for the modern republican party and give birth to a possible 3 party system.

Mopar Fanatic
05-05-2009, 07:56 PM
He was going to get smashed in the primary because he voted for the stimulus bill. He knows that he will be popular with Democrats for switching and figures they will re-elect him. Can't imagine the Democrats will trust him much after such a blatant betrayal for self-preservation but, then again, whores trust other other whores.

Potter82
05-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Okay, now that Tom Ridge has put the rumours that he'll run for the seat to rest, it seems almost certain that Toomey will get the GOP nomination for this seat.

He's really popular with the base but that's about where his popularity ends. In a recent poll, Specter was leading Toomey by 20% points! (53% to 23%, I'll try to find the link to the poll). Mind you this is after he switched parties so clearly he didn't alienate that many people.

Based on statements like Republican Sen. Hatch's statement that Toomey "has no chance" and the quiet recruitment efforts aimed at Ridge & this other guy Gelhcrist (sp?) (who isn't very well known right now), the GOP seems to realize Toomey is dead in the water and are trying to get rid of him in favour of a more "electable candidate". Unless they do, I say Specter should have no problem getting re-elected nex year.

People seem to love their long time senators, even if many other people in the country seem to loathe them.