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Monotreme
05-10-2009, 11:38 AM
It seems that these past few months, I can't turn my head without seeing this guy's name. First, he gets TOP BILLING in all the Terminator: Salvation advertising campaign, right alongside indisputable A-lister Christian Bale. Then, I see that he's not headlining one science fiction epic this year but TWO, as he's also starring in James Cameron's Avatar. Finally, recently the announcement of his being cast as the lead in Clash of the Titans seemed to be quite a big deal. So I saw the Terminator Salvation trailer and I couldn't recognize the guy from anywhere, so looked on IMDb to see if he'd done anything worthwhile in his life, perhaps he's some big TV star on some American show I couldn't care less about so while the masses know him, I myself don't, but this wasn't the case either.

But maybe I'm still missing something, so someone help me out and fill me in: Has this guy done ANYTHING worthwhile/notable in his career that justifies his getting top billing right alongside Christian Bale in Terminator Salvation when all their other castmates, most of which are more well-known than Worthington, aren't on any of the posters (Bryce Dallas Howard, Helena Bonham Carter, Anton Yelchin, Jane Alexander, Common)?

Reigh Kaufman
05-10-2009, 12:08 PM
I felt exactly the same way, but James Cameron seems to be responsible for his sudden ascension. When he was casting Avatar he said he needed someone "tough" and decided "that Australian men carry a certain aura of manliness" so he started looking around for a tough Australian actor who was also versatile. He met with Sam Worthington and knew that the guy would be perfect for Avatar.

Though it seems to have since been discredited, McG claims to have visited the set of Avatar to discuss his take on Terminator: Salvation with the creator of the series and was advised by Cameron that he had the perfect actor for a role in the new movie and McG is supposed to have poached the actor. (James Cameron now claims that he has not discussed Terminator with McG, nor given any "seal of approval").

It appears to have been a serendipitous piece of casting for Worthington, and vaguely opportunistic of McG to hire an actor who has associations with the pioneering Avatar - and its director - and make it seem as though he and Cameron had some in-depth sharing of ideas.

Now, casting agents are thinking: Who is this guy and why is he being endorsed by Cameron, recommended to McG? We need to get him while he is hot. The next thing is Clash of the Titans.

I have seen Worthington in Rogue and Somersault, but I can't say he particularly made an impression. I just think that James Cameron's faith in him has cascaded down through Hollywood and thus a star is born.

Monotreme
05-10-2009, 03:21 PM
Makes sense. I also read an article after making this post that in the original script for Terminator: Salvation (and who knows, perhaps in the final film itself, because you can never really trust the advertising, especially when it comes to using star power to sell a movie), the John Connor role was originally supposed to be a supporting one, while the Sam Worthington role is actually the protagonist and lead. After Bale signed on, they re-did it to give him a bigger part because he's so much more famous than the ORIGINAL lead, which was Worthington.

Whatever, I guess we'll just have to wait and see for ourselves.

project 86
05-10-2009, 05:39 PM
early reports say he outshines bale in Terminator :Salvation

LordSimen
05-10-2009, 05:57 PM
An awesome actor. He kicked ass in Rogue.

electriclite
05-10-2009, 06:03 PM
A while ago I finally remembered where I saw him last:

http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/somersault.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/831/831649/sam-worthington-somersault1_1193811759.jpg

http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/somersaultmoviestill.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/worldfilm/1/7/K/Y/4.jpg

Little indie aussie flick from a while back. Pretty interesting film and Worthington was quite intriguing in it as well.

Reigh Kaufman
05-10-2009, 06:10 PM
An awesome actor. He kicked ass in Rogue.

He was just fine - but I didn't ever think "Next Big Thing". That said, Empire magazine championed him last year as an actor to watch.

The thing we all seem to forget is that movies are a long process and sometimes an actor appears to have overnight success when, in fact, the work that breaks through started years ago.

Avatar was in production before Terminator: Salvation, but post-production has taken a long time. It therefore looks as though Worthington is suddenly ubiquitous, when in fact he has spent a number of years waiting for the films to arrive in the cinema.

BadCoverVersion
05-10-2009, 06:17 PM
A while ago I finally remembered where I saw him last:

http://www.impawards.com/2005/posters/somersault.jpg

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/831/831649/sam-worthington-somersault1_1193811759.jpg

http://www.rowthree.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/somersaultmoviestill.jpg

http://z.about.com/d/worldfilm/1/7/K/Y/4.jpg

Little indie aussie flick from a while back. Pretty interesting film and Worthington was quite intriguing in it as well.

Somersault? I was always super intrigued by that sleeve and it sure looks like the girl featured on it.

I'm so out of the loop because I never even heard of this fella before now.

The Postmaster General
05-10-2009, 06:30 PM
I'm so out of the loop because I never even heard of this fella before now.


When I first saw the name, I was thought it was referring to the actor Noble Willigham.

I'm not only out of the loop, but the concept of a loop makes me confused and fearful, like drawing scary red eyes on the underside of the toilet lid in a dementia ward.

LordSimen
05-10-2009, 06:42 PM
He was just fine - but I didn't ever think "Next Big Thing".

I think he showed promise, definitely leading man material.

Reigh Kaufman
05-10-2009, 06:49 PM
I think he showed promise, definitely leading man material.

I see it now. From the trailers, etc.

Then again, I never thought Russell Crowe would be an Oscar winning actor when I first watched Romper Stomper all those years ago.

Badbird
05-11-2009, 12:48 AM
THANK YOU for this thread!

For months I've been like "Who the fuck is this guy and why is his name above the title like I should know who he is?"

A.J. Hakari
05-11-2009, 03:41 AM
I'm still trying to figure out why Russell Brand slurs his way through one American movie role, and he's an instant comedy god.

Cosimo
05-11-2009, 05:11 AM
i......don't like him. there's just something about him i don't like. i have never seen him in a movie or an interview, infact this is the first time i have heard his name but the guy can go to hell for all i care

HockeyHead
05-11-2009, 12:33 PM
i......don't like him. there's just something about him i don't like. i have never seen him in a movie or an interview, infact this is the first time i have heard his name but the guy can go to hell for all i care

LOL! You've never seen him on screen, either on film or in a TV interview and you don't like him. How in hell could you even formulate an opinion if you've never seen this guy in action? From a few pics off the internet? LMFAO!

You know, people didn't know who the fuck Christopher Reeve was either when Superman-The Movie came out in 1978. Give the guy a chance and a break! What if people said the same thing about you and snubbed your films cuz you didn't look a certain way. Could you be any more close minded? What a joke! lol

scottmushroom
05-11-2009, 12:59 PM
Justbe glad they were original and didn't get Shia for another big franchise movie

Cosimo
05-11-2009, 03:49 PM
LOL! You've never seen him on screen, either on film or in a TV interview and you don't like him. How in hell could you even formulate an opinion if you've never seen this guy in action? From a few pics off the internet? LMFAO!

You know, people didn't know who the fuck Christopher Reeve was either when Superman-The Movie came out in 1978. Give the guy a chance and a break! What if people said the same thing about you and snubbed your films cuz you didn't look a certain way. Could you be any more close minded? What a joke! lol

i was joking laugh out loud type persons :rolleyes:

corran horn
05-11-2009, 04:01 PM
Thing is, Sam Worthington isn't American. He's Australian. AVATAR was his first major filming role in the States. As others have said, when Cameron took him on, other directors took notice and apparently saw something they liked.

I personally am intrigued by him. Besides AVATAR and Terminator Salvation, he has another, smaller film coming up called THE DEBT. In it, he plays a young Israeli Mossad agent tracking down a suspected Nazi war criminal in the 60s. Jessica Chastain and Marton Csokas play his team-mates. An older version of his character will be portrayed by Ciaran Hinds.

If everything goes as planned, Worthington could easily be the next Russell Crowe.

Cop No. 633
05-11-2009, 04:38 PM
Until I saw pictures of him in Terminator: Salvation, I honestly confused his name with the actor Sam Huntington. I was honestly thinking, "This is the guy Cameron said was going to be the next big action star?"

http://www.agalaxia.com.br/imagens/sam_huntington.jpg

hrdude
05-15-2009, 06:56 AM
Thing is, Sam Worthington isn't American. He's Australian. AVATAR was his first major filming role in the States. As others have said, when Cameron took him on, other directors took notice and apparently saw something they liked.

I personally am intrigued by him. Besides AVATAR and Terminator Salvation, he has another, smaller film coming up called THE DEBT. In it, he plays a young Israeli Mossad agent tracking down a suspected Nazi war criminal in the 60s. Jessica Chastain and Marton Csokas play his team-mates. An older version of his character will be portrayed by Ciaran Hinds.

If everything goes as planned, Worthington could easily be the next Russell Crowe.

Agreed

rocknblues81
05-16-2009, 03:12 AM
early reports say he outshines bale in Terminator :Salvation


When you look at Bale's performances recently, I would say that wouldn't be all that hard.

Cenopath
05-16-2009, 03:28 AM
An even more relevant question is, who the hell is Shia LeBeouf? He was even more of a no-name than Worthington when studio executives decided he would be hot shit, and now you can't catch a single movie trailer without his likeliness.

Worthington, however, seems less annoying than LeBeouf, so I don't really have any qualms. It's also important to remember that this is a big-budget sci-fi flick, where the Terminator name is bigger than the actors themselves - we might as well bitch about the new Star Trek film featuring a bunch of "no-name" actors.

LordSimen
05-16-2009, 03:47 AM
An even more relevant question is, who the hell is Shia LeBeouf? He was even more of a no-name...

Untrue. Shia was a Disney star and anything but a no-name before he started getting jobs in blockbusters.

rocknblues81
05-16-2009, 04:10 AM
Here is something from worstpreviews:


"Now, MTV News caught up with the actor to find out whether he is truly interested in the role. "I don't know about that," said Worthington. "I couldn't really see myself in green spandex."

Even though he has yet to appear in a mainstream film, Worthington already worries about taking roles that could potentially be difficult, like in a superhero movie. "[Christian Bale] told me stories about Batman and the cowl, how heavy the cape was," he said. "So, it didn't sound that appealing — he was sweating his *** off."

Sounds like a wimp to with questionable dedication to me.

bigred760
05-16-2009, 10:38 AM
Until I saw pictures of him in Terminator: Salvation, I honestly confused his name with the actor Sam Huntington. I was honestly thinking, "This is the guy Cameron said was going to be the next big action star?"

LOL! I did the exact same thing.

I don't give a damn who he is. He'll be appearing in three movies I want to see: Terminator: Salvation, Avatar, and Clash of the Titans. He's got a huge and important role in the first (judging by the trailers), the lead in a James Cameron movie (which ironically isn't the Terminator movie), and the lead in another big-budget action movie. The guy is doing something right . . . and so is his agent.

The Postmaster General
05-16-2009, 10:50 AM
"Now, MTV News caught up with the actor to find out whether he is truly interested in the role. "I don't know about that," said Worthington. "I couldn't really see myself in green spandex."




Which role is this referring to?

Cenopath
05-16-2009, 10:56 AM
Untrue. Shia was a Disney star and anything but a no-name before he started getting jobs in blockbusters.

Unless you're Miley Cyrus, being on the Disney Channel doesn't exactly mean you're well-renowned.

rocknblues81
05-16-2009, 11:02 AM
Which role is this referring to?

Green Latern or whatever it is.

rocknblues81
05-16-2009, 11:33 AM
LOL! I did the exact same thing.

I don't give a damn who he is. He'll be appearing in three movies I want to see: Terminator: Salvation, Avatar, and Clash of the Titans. He's got a huge and important role in the first (judging by the trailers), the lead in a James Cameron movie (which ironically isn't the Terminator movie), and the lead in another big-budget action movie. The guy is doing something right . . . and so is his agent.

Yeah, it looks like they're going to try their best to shove him down people's throat.

The Postmaster General
05-16-2009, 11:34 AM
Green Latern or whatever it is.

Thanks! I kind of assumed it was that, but couldn't find a reference to it.


Unless you're Miley Cyrus, being on the Disney Channel doesn't exactly mean you're well-renowned.

I think LordSimen was pointing out that the guy had a notable career prior to getting Spielberg love. Being on the Disney Channel was enough to get Shia an Emmy. It's where he gained his notability, kind of like how Australia was for Worthington.

bigred760
05-16-2009, 11:39 AM
Yeah, it looks like they're going to try their best to shove him down people's throat.

I don't see that happening. He'll be in 3 high profile movies in 2 years. Christian Bale can say the same thing. Now . . . Jude Law in 2004, that was an actor that was shoved down our throats that year.

Cenopath
05-16-2009, 11:57 AM
I think LordSimen was pointing out that the guy had a notable career prior to getting Spielberg love. Being on the Disney Channel was enough to get Shia an Emmy. It's where he gained his notability, kind of like how Australia was for Worthington.

Touche.

FilmKing2000
05-16-2009, 05:54 PM
Apparently he was also the runner-up to play James Bond way back when they were casting Casino Royale, yet the role ultimately (and obviously) went to Daniel Craig.

He seems pretty promising, if you ask me.

overwatch
05-17-2009, 11:58 AM
First time I saw him act was in Bootmen which is nearly ten years ago now, but I can't remember what he was like. I saw him in Dirty Deeds and Rogue last year, he was GREAT in Dirty Deeds. Here was this nobody bricky that just decided to act and he has naturaly talent. But you know what's funny, there's already a new Sam Worthington.

This Guy
http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/chrishemsworththor.jpg

Another "unknown" Australian who has been cast as the lead in Thor after his smallish role in Star Trek.

dellamorte dellamore
05-17-2009, 01:39 PM
If everything goes as planned, Worthington could easily be the next Russell Crowe.

You mean he's going to start throwing telephones at hotel clerks ?

The Postmaster General
05-17-2009, 02:48 PM
I was just at the theater, and saw a Star Trek poster - he has second billing. Is this different inside/outside The States? That would make a lot of sense given his pre-cred from Australia.

Monotreme
05-19-2009, 04:42 PM
Thing is, Sam Worthington isn't American. He's Australian. AVATAR was his first major filming role in the States. As others have said, when Cameron took him on, other directors took notice and apparently saw something they liked.

I personally am intrigued by him. Besides AVATAR and Terminator Salvation, he has another, smaller film coming up called THE DEBT. In it, he plays a young Israeli Mossad agent tracking down a suspected Nazi war criminal in the 60s. Jessica Chastain and Marton Csokas play his team-mates. An older version of his character will be portrayed by Ciaran Hinds.

If everything goes as planned, Worthington could easily be the next Russell Crowe.

Yeah, I'm also looking forward to The Debt. Hellen Mirren and Tom Wilkinson are also in it, and it's directed by John "Shakespeare in Love" Madden. Incidentally, it's actually a re-make of an Israeli film from a couple of years ago with Gila Almagor that was not bad, so I'm definitely intrigued by the re-make.

CreepyThinMan
05-19-2009, 05:29 PM
I've also been wondering who this zero-charisma-non-entity has been blowing to get cast in Avatar and Terminator Salvation. They guy looks like a generic meathead and there is nothing distinctive about his looks. If Cameron wanted to cast someone he should have gone with Karl Urban who is not only a massively talented actor but has got what it takes to carry a movie. Seriously, I’m watching Star Trek and thinking “why is this guy not a massive star?”.

I think Cameron has seriously fucked up by casting this douche in Avatar but then Cameron probably thinks that he shit’s gold bricks and can do no wrong at this point. The only reason that Worthington got Terminator Salvation is because McFaggot has been licking Cameron’s taint since he signed on to Direct and no doubt thought that it would be a coup by poaching Cameron’s lead actor for his substandard Terminator shitfiesta a few months before Avatar comes out.

overwatch
05-20-2009, 12:57 AM
I've also been wondering who this zero-charisma-non-entity has been blowing to get cast in Avatar and Terminator Salvation. They guy looks like a generic meathead and there is nothing distinctive about his looks. If Cameron wanted to cast someone he should have gone with Karl Urban who is not only a massively talented actor but has got what it takes to carry a movie. Seriously, I’m watching Star Trek and thinking “why is this guy not a massive star?”.

I think Cameron has seriously fucked up by casting this douche in Avatar but then Cameron probably thinks that he shit’s gold bricks and can do no wrong at this point. The only reason that Worthington got Terminator Salvation is because McFaggot has been licking Cameron’s taint since he signed on to Direct and no doubt thought that it would be a coup by poaching Cameron’s lead actor for his substandard Terminator shitfiesta a few months before Avatar comes out.
Getting pretty worked up over an actor I assume you know nothing about. You're judging him on his looks, GW.

echo_bravo
05-20-2009, 06:34 AM
Getting pretty worked up over an actor I assume you know nothing about. You're judging him on his looks, GW.

You should see what he posted about Gwenth Paltrow in the Celeb forum. Pure gold.:D

rilocay
05-20-2009, 07:35 AM
Sam Worthington could be the next big actor Hollywood needs. Think of all the names you know, now how many of these guy's are pushing through their 40's? As great as they all are, we do need some strong younger stars to start taking up some big roles.

CreepyThinMan
05-20-2009, 12:18 PM
Getting pretty worked up over an actor I assume you know nothing about. You're judging him on his looks, GW.

It's not about whether he's good looking or not, it's about the character of his face and Worthington has NONE. Being a good actor isn't enough, you need to project a presence, especially when starring in movies. This is why most TV actors fail to become movie stars. Television is a low demand visual medium where anyone can be successful because the audience isn’t paying to watch it. Good acting skills doesn’t cut it for cinema, you need real charisma if you want people to pay to see you on the big screen. This is why Jason Stratham, although known, will never be the success that Bruce Willis is and the reason is that Willis has personality, which counts for more then acting skills IMHO, while Stratham has none.

Heisenberg
05-20-2009, 12:35 PM
It's not about whether he's good looking or not, it's about the character of his face and Worthington has NONE. Being a good actor isn't enough, you need to project a presence, especially when starring in movies. This is why most TV actors fail to become movie stars. Television is a low demand visual medium where anyone can be successful because the audience isn’t paying to watch it. Good acting skills doesn’t cut it for cinema, you need real charisma if you want people to pay to see you on the big screen. This is why Jason Stratham, although known, will never be the success that Bruce Willis is and the reason is that Willis has personality, which counts for more then acting skills IMHO, while Stratham has none.

Statham has no personality? He has perfected the Cockney Hardnut persona quite well imo. Have you seen crank? Such a fun ride BECAUSE of Stathams personality and mannerism's.

bigred760
05-20-2009, 12:35 PM
It's not about whether he's good looking or not, it's about the character of his face and Worthington has NONE. Being a good actor isn't enough, you need to project a presence, especially when starring in movies. This is why most TV actors fail to become movie stars. Television is a low demand visual medium where anyone can be successful because the audience isn’t paying to watch it. Good acting skills doesn’t cut it for cinema, you need real charisma if you want people to pay to see you on the big screen. This is why Jason Stratham, although known, will never be the success that Bruce Willis is and the reason is that Willis has personality, which counts for more then acting skills IMHO, while Stratham has none.

Since when? Talent in the world of acting does help you get into movie and the movie business, but it sure as hell isn't a requirement. Hell, you mentioned Jason Statham, yet he's a movie star. Let's name some others: Jean Claude Van Damme, Dolph Lundgren, Jet Li, Steven Seagal . . . not too much talent as far as acting is concerned - all have starred in their own major motion pictures. Paris Hilton, the Wayans Bros., so many others have starred in countless movies yet Academy Awards I doubt they will win.

And have you seen Worthington in anything? You seem to be very judgemental on the guy and movies that haven't been released yet.

CreepyThinMan
05-20-2009, 01:03 PM
Statham has no personality? He has perfected the Cockney Hardnut persona quite well imo. Have you seen crank? Such a fun ride BECAUSE of Stathams personality and mannerism's.

Hey, I FUCKING LOVED both Crank movies but the hardman routine is all they guy can do and I’d be willing to give the Crank Director’s the bulk of praise for how those movies turned out. It’s not like Stratham brought something so special to that role that you couldn’t imagine anyone else in it. Christ, put Sylvester Stallone in that movie and it would have been ten times better by default and the reason is that Sly has got megawatt charisma.

CreepyThinMan
05-20-2009, 01:31 PM
Since when? Talent in the world of acting does help you get into movie and the movie business, but it sure as hell isn't a requirement. Hell, you mentioned Jason Statham, yet he's a movie star. Let's name some others: Jean Claude Van Damme, Dolph Lundgren, Jet Li, Steven Seagal . . . not too much talent as far as acting is concerned - all have starred in their own major motion pictures. Paris Hilton, the Wayans Bros., so many others have starred in countless movies yet Academy Awards I doubt they will win.

And have you seen Worthington in anything? You seem to be very judgemental on the guy and movies that haven't been released yet.

I should have said "I haven't seen him in anything worth mentioning" and yes, Stratham, Van Damme, Lundgren, Li, Seagal have all succeeded but that is because of two reasons, One, each other them has something distinctive about them that people seem to like and that can also be said for Arnold S., Sly Stallone, Chuck Norris etc.. and Two all of those people became famous for working in action films which don’t exactly require stellar acting talent and each of them had ONE movie that cemented their persona which they used to build a career by working with Directors and scripts that were suited to their limited acting range.

Worthington’s only been getting all this attention for ONE reason and that’s because Cameron decided to cast him in Avatar. That’s it. It’s not like the case of Eric Bana who gave an incredible performance in Chopper which lead to Black Hawk Down, Hulk, Munich etc…or Christian Bale who was fantastic as Patrick Bateman in American Psycho or even going back to Russel Crowe who kicked unholy ass in L.A. Confidential.

The point is that I’ve been checking out Worthington’s resume since I first heard about him and there is not ONE example where he gave a performance so stunning that you couldn’t deny that he had talent and presence. Hugh Jackman was an unknown and cast as Wolverine in X-Men but the fact is that even in interviews Jackman projected massive charisma and was also a celebrated stage actor who could sing and dance.

Maybe I’m not seeing it but there just seems to be nothing distinctive about Worthington and I think he’s getting overhyped just like Vin Diesel who, if you remember, was going to be a superstar but then people realized that audiences were only showing up for the fast cars and extreme sport bullshit of The Fast and The Furious and XXX.

bigred760
05-20-2009, 01:42 PM
Well . . . Dougray Scott was originally cast as Wolverine, but had to drop out due to delays in Mission: Impossible 2, but that's a different story.

The fact that Cameron cast Worthington in his big budget, first of its kind, movie should at least say something for the actor. Cameron is a great director, has directed several sci-fi classics, and has helped the careers of Sigourney Weaver (who also appears in Avatar) and Arnold Schwarzenegger. I have no doubt that Worthington is getting hyped because of Cameron's interest in him, but the fact that we haven't seen him yet means that we shouldn't judge the guy too early.

He may be another Vin Diesel . . . or he could be another Russel Crowe or Mel Gibson. Time will tell.

corran horn
05-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Yeah, I'm also looking forward to The Debt. Hellen Mirren and Tom Wilkinson are also in it, and it's directed by John "Shakespeare in Love" Madden. Incidentally, it's actually a re-make of an Israeli film from a couple of years ago with Gila Almagor that was not bad, so I'm definitely intrigued by the re-make.

So you saw the original then? What do you think about the casting for the Anglicized version?

CreepyThinMan
05-20-2009, 02:03 PM
Well . . . Dougray Scott was originally cast as Wolverine, but had to drop out due to delays in Mission: Impossible 2, but that's a different story.
The fact that Cameron cast Worthington in his big budget, first of its kind, movie should at least say something for the actor. Cameron is a great director, has directed several sci-fi classics, and has helped the careers of Sigourney Weaver (who also appears in Avatar) and Arnold Schwarzenegger. I have no doubt that Worthington is getting hyped because of Cameron's interest in him, but the fact that we haven't seen him yet means that we shouldn't judge the guy too early.

He may be another Vin Diesel . . . or he could be another Russel Crowe or Mel Gibson. Time will tell.

And that holy fucking Christ that Dougray Scott lost Wolverine. I remember watching that useless fucking bastard in Mission:Impossible 2 and thinking to myself "what a fucking plank of wood" and it killed me to say that because he's from Scotland.

Monotreme
05-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Yeah, the original was a big hit here in Israel. I thought it was good but certainly not great; that said, I think an English re-make will probably be better than the original if done right, as I felt that the original had a decidedly un-Israeli feel to it and felt a lot more like a sleek Hollywood film than the kind of unique cinema we usually get here in the form of great films such as Campfire, Broken Wings and The Band's Visit. I think that the re-make cast is good, although mind you I'm not comparing the English (and Australian) actors to the original Israeli ones but rather judging them on their own merit, so while Helen Mirren and Tom Wilkinson obviously get really high points, I haven't really seen Sam Worthington in anything so I can't really judge.

Abbie Normal
05-21-2009, 11:19 AM
Yeah, the original was a big hit here in Israel. I thought it was good but certainly not great; that said, I think an English re-make will probably be better than the original if done right, as I felt that the original had a decidedly un-Israeli feel to it and felt a lot more like a sleek Hollywood film than the kind of unique cinema we usually get here in the form of great films such as Campfire, Broken Wings and The Band's Visit. I think that the re-make cast is good, although mind you I'm not comparing the English (and Australian) actors to the original Israeli ones but rather judging them on their own merit, so while Helen Mirren and Tom Wilkinson obviously get really high points, I haven't really seen Sam Worthington in anything so I can't really judge.


This is way off topic, but since you are from Israel what did you think of Don't Mess With The Zohan? I enjoyed it.

Monotreme
05-21-2009, 02:41 PM
Yeah, that movie was impossibly dumb, but also hilarious, and I can definitely tell you that the humour is multiplied tenfold for Israelis, because lots of the jokes and sight gags and such speak very much to Israelis. The movie was also really popular here, far more than anywhere else in the world, and pretty much most people I know thought it was hilarious, myself included :)

Abbie Normal
05-21-2009, 08:53 PM
Yeah, that movie was impossibly dumb, but also hilarious, and I can definitely tell you that the humour is multiplied tenfold for Israelis, because lots of the jokes and sight gags and such speak very much to Israelis. The movie was also really popular here, far more than anywhere else in the world, and pretty much most people I know thought it was hilarious, myself included :)

Ok Cool. Then I will ask these questions based on the movie.

Do you really eat Hummus with everything?
Do you really call it make sticky and go to discos?
Hackee Sack really that popular?
Did you serve 3 years in the army there?
They you really say No, no,no,no,no,no,no,no like that?
Do you really add extra syllables after curse words?
Most importantly are there as many hot chicks there as in the movie?

Monotreme
05-22-2009, 01:21 PM
Alright, let's answer one by one:

1. Not with EVERYTHING, but I guess you could say that Hummus is a very popular sauce/dip/spread around here, eaten with meat, fries, bread and many other things.

2. Those jokes are alluring to what Israelis would say in the 70's - I don't know about make sticky, but I can tell you that everybody over 40 in Israel calls it a "disco" or "discotheque".

3. Again, Hackee Sack was popular in the 70's, not so much today.

4. Yes, there is a 3 year mandatory military service for all guys who reach the age of 18, and 2 years mandatory for girls. In fact, I am in the midst of my mandatory military service right now - out of the 3 years I've only got 8 months left, though, so I'm quite excited :) That's why I only post on the boards every other weekend, because I'm away on my army base all week long and we don't have internet there for security reasons...

5. Yeah, the "no no no no..." thing was REALLY funny and is TOTALLY true and accurate.

6. Same with the syllables.

7. You bet :)

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Abbie Normal
05-24-2009, 05:40 PM
Good deal man. Stay safe and alive. I am watching Zohan right now. Still funny. yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes,yes.

last question. What are your thoughts about the conflict between Israel and the rest of the middle east? both for yourself and as related to to the movie. Mainly movie, but i would like to hear your thoughts too.

Be well. If you want to come to America I know lots of electronics store owners in NJ and Brooklyn, NY (mostly jewish) if you want to work for them.

Monotreme
05-24-2009, 06:03 PM
Wow, well that's a big, heavy subject I would love to delve right into, except I haven't the time right now; and besides, I think it would be better to continue this in private messages; the Politics forum is heated enough, and I don't think many moderators would appreciate starting up a huge political debate in the movie-related rant forum... So I'll get back to you on that one, promise.

And thanks for the well-wishes and employment offer... "ya manyak!!" :)

Abbie Normal
05-24-2009, 06:06 PM
Wow, well that's a big, heavy subject I would love to delve right into, except I haven't the time right now; and besides, I think it would be better to continue this in private messages; the Politics forum is heated enough, and I don't think many moderators would appreciate starting up a huge political debate in the movie-related rant forum... So I'll get back to you on that one, promise.

And thanks for the well-wishes and employment offer... "ya manyak!!" :)

you are right, sorry mods. I look forward to your email. I am not looking to debate, just a learning experience from a first hand person. :-)

corran horn
05-25-2009, 10:23 AM
Having just seen Terminator Salvation, I have to say I'm impressed with Sam Worthington. He was definitely the best think about the movie, and there were a few moments where he really shined. He definitely has what Russell Crowe had (minus the temper), and I'm eager to see him in Avatar and The Debt (both of which will give him a chance to show his dramatic talent).

Interestingly, I was watching a TV Guide channel interview he did, and I found out that, before becoming an actor, he worked as a bricklayer. That explains both the muscles and that blue-collar/working stiff aura.

God of War
05-25-2009, 10:32 AM
When I first Saw Rogue about 2 years ago, I had no idea who sam worthington was. But he was good in Rogue.

Raoul Duke
05-25-2009, 10:13 PM
Am I missing something? I really wasn't very impressed with Worthington in this. I hated the movie as well.

I don't know, he certainly can look intense but other than that there was nothing that grabbed my attention.

However, since he is in Cameron's Avatar, I am interested to see what Worthington can do under a competent and talented director.

CyclicNightmare
05-26-2009, 11:50 PM
I was impressed by his flawless American accent. Spot on.

Abbie Normal
05-26-2009, 11:56 PM
I was impressed by his flawless American accent. Spot on.

Why is it that Americans always get killed when they do an English accent in a movie?