Actor David Carradine Dead at 73

[Damone]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,525069,00.html

“Kill Bill” star David Carradine was found dead in a Bangkok hotel room Wednesday, his manager told FOX News Thursday.

His manager told FOX News that it is believed the actor died of natural causes.

Carradine, 73, was staying in Bangkok while shooting a movie. The film crew became aware of his absence when they went to dine out at a restaurant yesterday. When a producer went to his room, he discovered that the actor had died.

Carradine was best known for his role in the television series “Kung Fu.”

[BlownCamaro]

Man this was not expected at all. I did not realize he was 73 though so it is a ripe old age. Will be missed

RIP.

[The Postmaster General]

Wow, I just saw an advert for that Fox show "Mental" and he's going to be on next week.

It's wild how much he was working at his age. Respect.

[bankholdup]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090604/ap_en_ot/as_thailand_david_carradine_3

This source says he was found hanged, an apparent suicide.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Fuck! That's awful :(

[sarah1980]

oh shit :(

RIP

[DaMovieMan]

Damn. It's extremely sad if it was a suicide.

R.I.P.

[jeo4]

Sucks. I used to watch Kung Fu and I'm a total sucker for Kill Bill. RIP.

[Heisenberg]

Holy shit!

This is fucking terrible.

R.i.P

[Brendan M.]

Well this is going to a depressing day.

[AspectRatio1986]

Horrible horrible news...I never saw much of his work but I thought he was awesome in Kill Bill and the show he hosted I think it was called Westtech or something like that.

[Derrida]

More bizarre details are coming through from the BBC and the Telegraph. Details strongly imply it could have been a sext act gone horribly wrong:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5444839/David-Carradine-found-dead-in-wardrobe-of-Bangkok-hotel.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

I fucking loved the guy, he was so charismatic in Kill Bill. RIP master.

[Smiert Spionam]

There aren't enough upside down smiley faces in the world right now to express how shitty this is.

R.I.P.

P.S. Derrida, don't ever trust the telegraph..... ever.

[bigred760]

Very sad news. Think I'll watch the Kill Bill movies tomorrow.

RIP

[Abbie Normal]

I bet this guy has some good stories to tell. He was working on a movie in Bangkok when he died. Do actors ever retire?

RIP Buddy

[poopontheshoes7]

Damn, this is terrible, terrible news. I'm huge Carridine fan. Me and my dad would watch re-runs of Kung Fu all the time and of course he was excellent in Kill Bill.

[Lazy Boy]

R.I.P. Snake Charmer

[bankholdup]

Kind of ironic, but Carradine had a movie at the Berlin International Film Festival last year called "My Suicide."

RIP, Caine.

[ilovemovies]

Besides the aforementioned Kill Bill, I also really enjoyed his 2 guest appearences on Alias.

RIP :(

[Danger^Cart]

Never do that without a buddy to spot you.

[syxxpac]

If 2009 wants to compete with 2008 for tragic death, this is a good (read: bad) start. The consummate soft-spoken badass, I'll miss The Man's brand of grizzled charm.

[overwatch]

Damn, rip.

[zombievictim]

Wow. I literally just finished watching Kill Bill yesterday. Truly terrible news.

RIP

[Evil Ed]

http://www.nndb.com/people/840/000022774/david-carradine-1.jpg

Ultimate bad ass.

[FireCaptain4]

Nononononono! :eek: I can't believe this! This has to be some kind of sick joke, right?! Right? :mad::(

[Tweek]

R.I.P. :( He is on my list of "Childhood Heroes" (yes, because of Kung Fu.)

[Mr.HyDe807]

Jesus, like Bubba, I saw an ad of him on the show Mental just last night.

I loved him in Kill Bill, RIP.

[Il_Duce]

Mayu the Lord be with his family. RIP. :(

[The Postmaster General]

Jesus, like Bubba, I saw an ad of him on the show Mental just last night.



Nah, I have better shoes than Jesus ever had so... Oh wait, I misread your post.

I'd like to know more of the story. The suicide thing always sounds horrible, but I'd like to know his situation a lot more. It's always horrible when people leave their families, but I feel like at a certain age it becomes more of an act of nobility than an act of cowardice. I don't mean to be morbid, but I consider suicide to be an act of cowardice, and hope Carradine wasn't all like that.

[muttly69]

This sucks. I read on US weekly that he was found with him with rope around his neck and genitals.:eek: A very sad day indeed. RIP master.

[drc5145]

Terrible to read, He was great on Kung-Fu and other movies like Kill Bill and Mean Streets.

So long and rest in peace, David Carradine.

[echo_bravo]

More bizarre details are coming through from the BBC and the Telegraph. Details strongly imply it could have been a sext act gone horribly wrong:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/celebritynews/5444839/David-Carradine-found-dead-in-wardrobe-of-Bangkok-hotel.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8083479.stm

I fucking loved the guy, he was so charismatic in Kill Bill. RIP master.

Was he doing that all "choking yourself" while spanking it? Kinda like in Larry Clark's Ken Park??:confused::eek:

Either way, terrible news. My family and I are huge fans of his.

[BlownCamaro]

Not to go too far off topic or anything but has anyone actually tried to do that? I do not understand the fascination with it but then again I have not tried it. Just curious. Not saying I believe the story either but still I just have to know whats the big deal about that?

[Bahs]

:( great actor

will be missed

[echo_bravo]

Not to go too far off topic or anything but has anyone actually tried to do that? I do not understand the fascination with it but then again I have not tried it. Just curious. Not saying I believe the story either but still I just have to know whats the big deal about that?

Definitely havent tried that and NEVER will.

I do know a handful of girls that get off by getting choked while they are getting fucked though. Apparently it heightens the orgasm or something according to them.

[muttly69]

Not to go too far off topic or anything but has anyone actually tried to do that? I do not understand the fascination with it but then again I have not tried it. Just curious. Not saying I believe the story either but still I just have to know whats the big deal about that?

Definitely havent tried that and NEVER will.

I do know a handful of girls that get off by getting choked while they are getting fucked though. Apparently it heightens the orgasm or something according to them.

At work at the moment but going to lunch in an hour. I will let you know how it goes.

[john_rambo]

One of my favorite actors from the action flicks of the 70's and 80's. Horrible News!

RIP

[ericdraven]

Wow. I just am shocked at this news. He was a bad ass from the way he portrayed his characters.


RIP

[NuclearMisfit]

R.I.P. One of the finest actors, Im worried because death seems to come in threes.

[The Postmaster General]

This sucks. I read on US weekly that he was found with him with rope around his neck and genitals.:eek: A very sad day indeed. RIP master.

Was he doing that all "choking yourself" while spanking it? Kinda like in Larry David's Ken Park??:confused::eek:


Ah hell, I was trying to save face for the man, but it'll be confirmed regardless. I didn't want Danger's comment to be true.


Not to go too far off topic or anything but has anyone actually tried to do that? I do not understand the fascination with it but then again I have not tried it. Just curious. Not saying I believe the story either but still I just have to know whats the big deal about that?


I do know a handful of girls that get off by getting choked while they are getting fucked though. Apparently it heightens the orgasm or something according to them.


Yeah, I haven't done the rope, but the choking thing is pretty common. What's kind of fucked up for me is that I was actually thinking about the choking during sex thing last night for some reason, and thinking about the body mechanics behind it - that it's the combination of oxygen returning to the brain coupled with the orgasm to give a double threat. It kind of creeps me out a bit that I randomly thought about that for the first time in ages - obviously coincidence, just still kind of weird (that I was thinking of that, not the coincidence... ;) )

I've also have know of um these other people who'll use poppers or nitrous during sex - same idea. (happens in The Doors movie when Nico and Jim are in the elevator - which makes their reaction when getting busted pretty suitable)

[echo_bravo]

Just for the record, I am NOT into choking women AT ALL during sex. I find it degrading and disgusting. This is just what a couple of chicks told me during college (lets just say you wouldnt want to bring these girls home to mom).

[Cronos]

Very sad news, wanted to see Kung Fu for years but still haven't managed to :(

R.I.P.

[The Postmaster General]

Just for the record, I am NOT into choking women AT ALL during sex. I find it degrading and disgusting. This is just what a couple of chicks told me during college (lets just say you wouldnt want to bring these girls home to mom).

Yeah, but doggy is degrading as well. A lot of acts are, maybe most of them to some extent depending on how you're looking at it. Just wondering though, would you be into a woman putting her hands around your throat?

Which reminds me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NixVFRQBRnQ

Anyway, I thought we were just sharing info, not revealing our turn offs and turn ons, so I hope no one was reading into my post. I wouldn't want to be judged as someone who always thinks about things. That was just a one time thing

[echo_bravo]

Yeah, but doggy is degrading as well. A lot of acts are, maybe most of them to some extent depending on how you're looking at it. Just wondering though, would you be into a woman putting her hands around your throat?

Which reminds me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NixVFRQBRnQ

Anyway, I thought we were just sharing info, not revealing our turn offs and turn ons, so I hope no one was reading into my post. I wouldn't want to be judged as someone who always thinks about things. That was just a one time thing

Whoa havent heard from Death in Vegas is ages.

Yeah, I am not into anything kinky at all.

The only way I have even heard of this certain fetish (Auto Erotic Asphyxiation) was from Larry Clark's Ken Park which I do not recommend watching. I looked this certain fetish up on wikipedia and got pretty woozy from reading about it.

[the clever guy]

So I popped into this thread to say R.I.P. to a great man (well, indirectly, I suppose) and THE LAST thing I thought I would see is a bunch of people (lookin' at YOU Bubba) talking about choking and self blowjobs. Kinda fucking creepy because I wasn't expecting nor had any idea what was going on. My confusion was settled after I read a few posts back. *PHEW*

[APzombie]

fuck this is terrible. :( :( :( :(

I love the mans work He has always rocked. Such a terrible way to go.

[Bourne101]

Wow, very sad news. Loved him in Kill Bill.

[The Postmaster General]

The only way I have even heard of this certain fetish (Auto Erotic Asphyxiation) was from Larry Clark's Ken Park which I do not recommend watching. I looked this certain fetish up on wikipedia and got pretty woozy from reading about it.

Yeah, I'd heard about it at some point, then when Michael Hutchenson of INXS died it was kind of mainstream for a moment.

As an indication, I did not remember the choking thing until someone brought it up in relation to this. Of course, it might be different now with the internets and all - and this might get played up more than Carradine deserves.

I'm not a fan of Larry Clark.


So I popped into this thread to say R.I.P. to a great man (well, indirectly, I suppose) and THE LAST thing I thought I would see is a bunch of people (lookin' at YOU Bubba) talking about choking and self blowjobs. Kinda fucking creepy because I wasn't expecting nor had any idea what was going on. My confusion was settled after I read a few posts back. *PHEW*

Hey, why do I get singled out for being thoroughly informative? ;)

Self-blowjobs, though? Why would you bring something like that up in a thread about Carradine? Show the man some respect!





If the weirdest stories of Carradine's death are true, I have a feeling that he's looking down on us here at Joblo.com, and approves.

Respect. R.I.P.

[someguy]

Did he really die doing what he loved?

[BlownCamaro]

Did he really die doing what he loved?



Good question. I guess beating off in a closet while chocking yourself is better than a heart attack, drug overdose, or getting hit by a truck. At least his mother did not walk in and find him.

[the clever guy]

Hey, why do I get singled out for being thoroughly informative? ;)

Self-blowjobs, though? Why would you bring something like that up in a thread about Carradine? Show the man some respect!





If the weirdest stories of Carradine's death are true, I have a feeling that he's looking down on us here at Joblo.com, and approves.

Respect. R.I.P.


I just HAD to single you out Bubba....out of respect, of course. ;)


Did he really die doing what he loved?

A very surprising turn of events for you, someguy....but a good question nonetheless. It's only an assumption that he did die doing what he loved seeing as how, well, he was doing it and it probably wasn't his first time doing it.

Everytime I think of Carradine, I can't help but think of how Hollywood cheated Bruce Lee out of his idea of Kung-Fu with Bruce himself starring in it, but they wanted Carradine instead and basically took the idea from Bruce Lee. Great show nonetheless. And then there was 'The Legend Continues"...

And I just looked at Carradine's IMDB page...holy balls he was in a lot of movies/shows/games.

[Tagia_Romero]

RIP

Yeah, but doggy is degrading as well. A lot of acts are, maybe most of them to some extent depending on how you're looking at it.

Degrading for the woman in particular, technically speaking.

[SkyNet]

RIP to the dude

but did he really go out doing Auto Erotic Asphyxiation?

does that ever actually work?!

[razgriz21]

This is terrible.:(

R.I.P.

[ericdraven]

Uh, Echo and Bubba,


Can you quit posting about HOW he died, and just let people post their condoloences. After the LS incident in this forum, off topic is a faux pas now almost.

[echo_bravo]

So I popped into this thread to say R.I.P. to a great man (well, indirectly, I suppose) and THE LAST thing I thought I would see is a bunch of people (lookin' at YOU Bubba) talking about choking and self blowjobs. Kinda fucking creepy because I wasn't expecting nor had any idea what was going on. My confusion was settled after I read a few posts back. *PHEW*

Uhh thats sorta my fault actually. It was kinda the elephant in the room and I had to bring it up. Sorry

[echo_bravo]

Uh, Echo and Bubba,


Can you quit posting about HOW he died, and just let people post their condoloences. After the LS incident in this forum, off topic is a faux pas now almost.

Will do.

[gayzilla]

Yes Virginia, he really did die doing what he loved.

If anyone has ever done a whip-it hit, it feels just the same. Just suck the air out of a whipped cream container, or from the keyboard cleaner. Now imagine coupling that with an orgasm and bam. Though you really have to be an idiot to do it and die from it. Atleast now he can change tips with Michael Hutchins in heaven.

[BadCoverVersion]

Did he really die doing what he loved?

Touche someguy.

As inappropriate as this might sound, I really hope he did.

R.I.P Mr Kung Fu.


Degrading for the woman in particular, technically speaking.

Any sexually act is degrading if you are not totally in to it.

If you dig it, and it's all between consenting adults...no pressure, all pleasure...then rock on people!

[Heisenberg]

It's a pity, cause now he is just gonna look like a pervert to the world once the tabloids go out.


BCV, Smiert- Awesome avatars! Maybe I'll go with the BB avatar. Express my love for it. :D

[BadCoverVersion]

BCV, Smiert- Awesome avatars! Maybe I'll go with the BB avatar. Express my love for it. :D

Smiert's avatar is fucking AMAZING. Mine is way too blurry but it's a Mac hackjob...I usually operate on Ubuntu and have no clue how to make a decent one.

someguy recommended BB to me...I'll now be forever in his debt. Probably the most gripping series since The Wire...I was hooked from the get-go.

Back on topic...

If folks think Caradine is a deviant or a weirdo then so what!? His fans will remember him fondly and it doesn't mar his contribution to tv, cinema and popular culture in my eyes.

[Heisenberg]

If folks think Caradine is a deviant or a weirdo then so what!? His fans will remember him fondly and it doesn't mar his contribution to tv, cinema and popular culture in my eyes.

Oh thats for sure. I don't think any less of him. Still a legend. Just this Bastard world we live in. :mad:


Ps: I have joined the BB avatar crew, Let's roll. :)

[the clever guy]

If folks think Caradine is a deviant or a weirdo then so what!? His fans will remember him fondly and it doesn't mar his contribution to tv, cinema and popular culture in my eyes.

Well said...

[God of War]

This is indeed truly sad for me. David has always been around since I was a kid. Always watched Kung Fu, and loved his acting and fighting onscreen. To me he was the ultimate Kung Fu badass, still is. Now he's gone. This has really shocked me, and taken my by surprise. Last saw him in Big Stan.

R.I.P David Carradine :(:(:(

http://starshipaurora.com/images/kung_fu_caine.jpg

[Antonio141]

R.I.P. BILL!

[Strider]

Very sad news indeed.

R.I.P.

[RustyRazor]

R.I.P.
This mortal coil is a bizarre, fleeting thing.

[echo_bravo]

Carradine Death Was Accidental

4 June 2009 3:05 PM, PDT

David Carradine died during a sex game that went wrong, according to sources in Bangkok, Thailand, where he was found dead on Thursday.

Carradine's body was discovered in a hotel suite and local reports suggested he committed suicide.

He was discovered by a maid, naked and hanged, but the suggestions his death had a sexual twist were strongly disputed by the star's close friend, attorney Vicki Roberts, and his manager Chuck Binder, who insisted he died of natural causes.

But a statement from Carradine's representative now indicates the actor died during a sex act.

The spokesperson tells TMZ.com, "We can confirm 100 per cent that he never would have committed suicide. It was an accidental death. Everybody is in shock."

Rumours Carradine died attempting auto-erotic asphyxiation - where victims achieve heightened sexual pleasure by restricting their air supply - are backed up by a quote a Bangkok police officer gave to British newspaper The Sun.

The cop tells reporters, "A rope was attached to his neck and also to his penis".

Rocker Michael Hutchence was rumoured to have died attempting the same sex act in a Sydney, Australia hotel room back in 1997 - although his death was officially declared a suicide.

Carradine was in Thailand to shoot new movie Stretch. He was 72.

Source: IMDB

____________________________________

At least he didnt have any gerbils stuck up his ass.
RIP

[John Galt]

I actually met him like 4 years ago at the Chiller convention.

When I asked him about a possible prequel to Kill Bill, his reply was:

"Why? I'm dead."


Talk about irony.

[rilocay]

Wow, bit of a shock to me for sure.
R.I.P. Carridine, you will forever be one bad mother fucker.

[bigred760]

QT and Michael Madsen are on Larry King right now talking about Carradine.

[The Postmaster General]

Uh, Echo and Bubba,


Can you quit posting about HOW he died, and just let people post their condoloences. After the LS incident in this forum, off topic is a faux pas now almost.


Uh, why don't you mention Tagia, BadCoverVersion (a moderator), BlownCamero, or Skynet?

How exactly is talking about how he died off-topic?

What does LS have to do with anything? We spent like 4 posts discussing a question that BlownCamero asked about, and had since moved on. Other schmoes went on to discuss it further, some to discuss things not even related to Carradine. I ended my last post on the topic trying to cap it off by voicing respect toward the man.

Oh, but I'm sorry, let me discuss 73-year old Carradine's death by auto erotic asphyxiation with a rope around his neck using the standard celebrity death posting form:

"R.I.P. The dude will be missed."

Sorry man, you don't get to make the rules over what is and isn't off-topic in regards to showing respect to Carradine. Maybe you want to just leave it at that, but I personally think that there's nothing disrespectful about maturely and reasonably discussing something related. Though, I was past the discussion, I'm looking more toward anyone else's board-given right to discuss it if they wish.

No offense taken, and I'm not bothered. I understand that the topic was icky to some people, but I feel like we did a good job reeling it back in. Most of us here have "known" each other via this board for years, and are comfortable talking about subjects surrounding the details of Carradine's death.

No offense meant to you, but I think it's a low-blow for you to imply that echo, myself, and all the other people who've talked about it as much or more than we have, are somehow being less respectful than not. It's all cool, no? It's just as easy to figure out where a post is going and skim on - people do that with my posts 99% of the time, I believe. You may have done it with this post and not even be reading now. It's a chance I always take when voicing my thoughts. There's no reason to dredge the topic legitimately off track by singling out people to look like assholes, though.

Respect to you, brother schmoe. Awesome avatar.

[the clever guy]

No offense taken, and I'm not bothered. I understand that the topic was icky to some people, but I feel like we did a good job reeling it back in. Most of us here have "known" each other via this board for years, and are comfortable talking about subjects surrounding the details of Carradine's death.


I'm just happy that has finally happened. But you are right, at no point really did the discussion dive elsewhere, and luckily everything was very mature and well-put with what everyone was saying.

Honestly, thinking about this whole situation (the death, not the "off-topic"-ness or whatever) has me thinking of Clerks. Not that I'm trying to find comedy out of the whole situation or poke fun at it, because it truly is tragic, but c'mon...who at one point hasn't thought of Clerks for just a second regarding what happened.

Also, did anyone check out that show he recently did (a couple years ago, I think) with the 'Wild West' stuff? I think it was called 'Wild West Tech' or something. I think it was on the Science Channel. It's a pretty interesting show, albeit somewhat cheesy with the scripts he has to read....but it's David Carradine.

[BlownCamaro]

Also, did anyone check out that show he recently did (a couple years ago, I think) with the 'Wild West' stuff? I think it was called 'Wild West Tech' or something. I think it was on the Science Channel. It's a pretty interesting show, albeit somewhat cheesy with the scripts he has to read....but it's David Carradine.



Yea the Gatlin Gun episode was a good one.

[the clever guy]

Yeah, there was that one and another one about circus shows and circus freaks and how they would con people into their shows and out of their money.

[The Postmaster General]

Thank you, The Clever Guy. I wanted to make sure we were on the level before I continued with other things that have been brought up in the thread, because they all aren't about saying "RIP" and I felt they should be discussed.

If folks think Caradine is a deviant or a weirdo then so what!? His fans will remember him fondly and it doesn't mar his contribution to tv, cinema and popular culture in my eyes.

I don't think that will be a thing. The same as with MH from INXS - that shit gets forgotten. Besides, he was 73 years old. If anything, he deserves props for being a freak in the freakdom. People do things beyond extreme forms of self-love, and as far as I think anyone should care, there are those who hurt people to satisfy their own desires, and then there is everyone else. Carradine was and will always be a legend, but his sex life is of no real concern.



Any sexually act is degrading if you are not totally in to it.

If you dig it, and it's all between consenting adults...no pressure, all pleasure...then rock on people!

Yes, I stopped short of saying it like that, but like I touched on, it all depends on how you look at it. There are those who think anything other than missionary is degrading. It all comes down to respect, and as long as that's there, passion will find a way. Just make sure everyone agrees on the safe word ("harder" or "more" are not recommended).





Honestly, thinking about this whole situation (the death, not the "off-topic"-ness or whatever) has me thinking of Clerks. Not that I'm trying to find comedy out of the whole situation or poke fun at it, because it truly is tragic, but c'mon...who at one point hasn't thought of Clerks for just a second regarding what happened.

Also, did anyone check out that show he recently did (a couple years ago, I think) with the 'Wild West' stuff? I think it was called 'Wild West Tech' or something. I think it was on the Science Channel. It's a pretty interesting show, albeit somewhat cheesy with the scripts he has to read....but it's David Carradine.


I need to watch Clerks again to make the connection.

I do remember that show, but never did check it out. Sci-fi channel sounds right though.

That show "Mental" didn't impress me, and kind of left a bad taste in my mouth (seemed kind of to patronize mental illness...) but I was interested in Carradine's part on the upcoming episode. I'm going to watch it now, I think, just out of respect to him.

I'm excited to check out that Larry King episode - will look for it when I get to work. Anyone besides bigred catch it? I could imagine there was a lot of humor, but probably sad.






Finally, a PSA from BubbaStrangelove -

I feel this part is my duty so that schmoes don't get brain damage or suffer paralysis. I'd like to comment about that keyboard cleaner/whip-it thing ---- Please don't huff keyboard cleaner. It's not the same thing as whip-its, although it has similar effects, it's more akin to huffing gasoline. Whip-its/nitrous is relatively safe - it's what they give you at the dentist. I don't think anyone has ever died from it (you would pass out before dying, unless you had a bag over your head or some nonsense), but people die from dust-it.

Ages ago they used to use low levels of nitrous in keyboard cleaner, but they've since moved on to cheaper forms of flurocarbons and other junk that's straight-up toxic. It will flat-out stop your heart. Anyone who has done a proper deal of nitrous and has then tried duster instinctively knows this, but someone experimenting would not. The difference isn't even comparable to cocaine/crack, but more like smoking weed/grinding up a TV and smoking it. Though in all truthfulness I've never tried smoking a TV.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle. If you would like to learn more about inhalants and ways of getting high, visit your local library. The more you read, the more you win! Yeah!

[Terror Australis]

This is really sad and tragic news. He was absolutely terrifc in the Kill Bill films. He will be missed.

R.I.P.:(

[Cenopath]

A true bad-ass that will be missed. R.I.P.

[APzombie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzJQRzRzojg

[The Postmaster General]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzJQRzRzojg

Thank you!!!

[the clever guy]

Thank you, The Clever Guy. I wanted to make sure we were on the level before I continued with other things that have been brought up in the thread, because they all aren't about saying "RIP" and I felt they should be discussed.



I need to watch Clerks again to make the connection.

I do remember that show, but never did check it out. Sci-fi channel sounds right though.



Bubba, you and I will probably never have a disagreement. If we do, then that is the day Joblo.com is no more.

Anyways, to continue on with what you were saying...if discussion goes off-topic (i.e. death of a celebrity), but remains relevant to the celebrity himself (i.e. cause of death, shows, movies, love interests, sexual preference, type of drugs they loved, etc.), and also remains a mature, self-contained discussion, then it should be no problem. No one should step in and say "can we go back on topic" or "what does this have to do with his death?" I'm not singling out anyone here, but as long the discussion is mature, and relevant to the topic (or celebrity) at hand, then it's all fair. It's a discussion board, and as long as it provides good discussion (provided it doesn't stray too far from the source of the topic), then where's the quarrel?


As far as the Clerks reference goes....just watch the discussion between Randal and Dante on their way to the funeral.

[BlownCamaro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzJQRzRzojg


Thanks for the link. A great video. I liked the way they handled the questions about how he died. They did not really brush it off but they did not go into excuses, they just stayed on the positives. Seemed like he had lots of friends, not some typical Hollywood asshole.

[The Postmaster General]

Is there the rest of the interview up? King said they'd talk more when they come back, but it stops. (unless I was confused...)

[anakinsrise]

Before the days of cable thank goodness for networks that aired cool re runs of shows like,Star Trek,BattleStar Galactica and David Carradine's Kung Fu.Im not sure what was cooler about his character Kwai Chang Caine the way he would apologize before he beat the crap out of you,or how he would do it with such ease.Carradine brought the same manner to tons of roles,most memorable as of late was in the Kill Bill films.Calm,Cool,Quiet....That was David Carradine R.I.P
Thanks for years of entertainment.

[bonoferox]

While he seemed like a genuinely nice guy and I appreciated his work (wouldnt really call myself a fan, though), that has got to be one of the most ridiculous and embarassing ways to go (if true). Almost seems like a Darwin Award nominee.

[Juliet Bravo]

While he seemed like a genuinely nice guy and I appreciated his work (wouldnt really call myself a fan, though), that has got to be one of the most ridiculous and embarassing ways to go (if true). Almost seems like a Darwin Award nominee.
Yes, I just feel bad for him. What a way to die...

[BlownCamaro]

Well his family are saying that his hands were also tied up and they think it was foul play. Hopefully he was not with some underaged hooker or something who could not untie him before he choked to death or anything like that.

[bonoferox]

Well his family are saying that his hands were also tied up and they think it was foul play. Hopefully he was not with some underaged hooker or something who could not untie him before he choked to death or anything like that.


That was my thought as well at first. Maybe not necessarily underage, but I have a feeling an escort of some form was with him at the time and most likely scurried off after finding out it went awry.

[APzombie]

Is there the rest of the interview up? King said they'd talk more when they come back, but it stops. (unless I was confused...)

yeah i wish, i couldn't find it :(

[Cronos]

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2009/06/05/lkl.carradine.panel.long.cnn

Seems to be edited but has the second half of it.

Had the chance to meet him a couple years back at a memorabilia fair but didn't, was late in the day and he seemed pretty tired/irritated and didn't want to annoy him with another you were awesome in Kill Bill comment as there was still a long queue waiting, wish I did now :(.

[Preston_79]

Damn shame. He pulled a Michael Hutchins. What's wrong with good old fashioned wank with nothing cutting off your air supply? He had a choker on his nut sack to apparently. Just tragic.

[Juliet Bravo]

That was my thought as well at first. Maybe not necessarily underage, but I have a feeling an escort of some form was with him at the time and most likely scurried off after finding out it went awry.

That seems to make more sense. I always wondered why people would go through the trouble of choking themselves for what basically is a masturbatory act? If he did it with a partner, then it would be more logical. I have no idea what the statistics are for death by autoerotic asphyxiation, though.

[bonoferox]

Probably pretty rare. Though I'm not really curious enough to test it myself.
Either way, I wouldn't be surprised if we find out soon that the Thai police may be looking for said person.

[Smiert Spionam]

I know the real truth regarding these mysterious circumstances. David Carradine was gonna hang himself, but he decided not to. However, he was obviously found hanged, so yes, foul play was involved and I know who the culprit was...





















































http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt326/ovejarreina/ben-linus.jpg

[ToddRH]

Well, he was also found in a closet/wardrobe so he either just fell into it while dying or he was put there to try to hide him. If the latter, it wasn't an "underage" escort. There were always rumors (ala Bruce Lee) that there were "Asians" who weren't happy with his portrayl in "Kung Fu". I know it's been many years but grudges don't die easily.

[Antonio141]

The media is going to once again add fuel to the fire by speculating on the cause of death.

One thing's for sure...Carradine was screwed out of an Oscar for KILL BILL: VOLUME TWO! Man, the ending of that movie will have a new meaning now that he's gone!

[Jon Lyrik]

It's pretty bizarre a guy well into pensioner age was hard-up enough to kill himself by cutting off his oxygen while getting his jollies. Of course, maybe you don't give enough of a shit when you are fairly old.

[BlownCamaro]

If the latter, it wasn't an "underage" escort.


You were there? Thailand is very well known for underage prostitution. You can not say if this is true or not.

[The Heart Collector]

JUNE 5--As investigators try to determine how actor David Carradine wound up hanging naked and dead in a Bangkok hotel closet with a rope tied around his genitals, a review of divorce court filings shows that his most recent ex-wife once accused the actor of "deviant sexual behavior which was potentially deadly." Additionally, Marina Anderson alleged in a sworn declaration that Carradine engaged in an "incestuous relationship with a very close family member." Anderson's declaration, an excerpt of which you'll find below, was filed in mid-2003 in Los Angeles Superior Court (the document was supposed to be filed under seal but was mistakenly placed in the public court file, where TSG found it). The declaration does not detail Carradine's alleged "deviant sexual behavior." As for the incest charge, Anderson reported that Carradine and the unnamed relative admitted the taboo relationship, but that her "pleas for him to get counseling in regards to this matter were ignored and he wanted no part in the healing process the other person needed in order to get closure." In a phone interview today, Anderson, who was married to Carradine for four years, said she stands by the allegations in her court filing, but declined to further discuss her charges. A Bangkok police official told reporters that investigators were examining whether Carradine accidentally suffocated while engaging in an autoerotic sex act.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0605092carradine1.html

[BlownCamaro]

Hrm, so he bangs family members and chokes himself while wanking. Interesting indeed. I guess everyone has their demons. I wonder if it was Martha Plimpton?

[The Postmaster General]

Hrm, so he bangs family members and chokes himself while wanking. Interesting indeed. I guess everyone has their demons. I wonder if it was Martha Plimpton?


http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lO5twudU5_c/RhVD90KwHQI/AAAAAAAAAA8/T5h5DmB3q5g/nerd.jpg

[APzombie]

the whole thing reminds me of the new Robin Williams movie that was actually good, Worlds Greatest Dad.

[ToddRH]

You were there? Thailand is very well known for underage prostitution. You can not say if this is true or not.

What I meant was it wasn't an underage escort who apparently dragged his body into the closet/wardrobe! Because of the difficulty in moving the body! Now maybe a pimp of the underage escort!

[BlownCamaro]

What I meant was it wasn't an underage escort who apparently dragged his body into the closet/wardrobe! Because of the difficulty in moving the body! Now maybe a pimp of the underage escort!

Underage whores nowadays are pretty strong. I saw one lift a Buick off an orphan once.

[muttly69]

prisonplanet.com has a story that he was murdered by some secret society for investigating them.

[the clever guy]

prisonplanet.com has a story that he was murdered by some secret society for investigating them.

And thus the Bruce Lee conspiracy begins...

[Natty]

He was a cool guy (or so he had me believe).

R.I.P.

[echo_bravo]

Another rumor going around the internet is that Chuck Norris beat the fuckin shit out of Carradine on the set of Lone Wolf McQuade back in 1983. Apparently Carradine was being a drunken asshole and Chuck had to set him straight.
I would of loved to see that!

[BlownCamaro]

Did Carradine actually know any martial arts? If not, seeing a non-trained person take on Chuck would have been hilarious!

[echo_bravo]

Hmm thats a good question. I have no clue how trained he is in martial arts.

All that I am hearing was that he was running his mouth to Chuck Norris and Norris had to lay the smackdown on him.

[BlownCamaro]

And now we find out he has a Jesus fetish as well!

"The newest allegations comes from one his ex-wives, Gail Jensen. His third wife, Gail recalls a story in which she arrive home one afternoon to find David in the basement hanging from a rope, emulating Jesus Christ in crucifix position.

When Jensen inquired the reasoning, his only reply was "I would really like a sandwich."

She then left him hanging there, having guests waiting upstairs and frequently brought him wine and bread while he remained tied. After several hours, he untied himself and joined his wife and friends."


http://perezhilton.com/2009-06-09-oh-lord-david-carradine

[SweetEnLow]

I hate that many people are going to remember him for how he died and not how he lived.

[Juliet Bravo]

I hate that many people are going to remember him for how he died and not how he lived.

Yeah, but it's not our fault he died so kinkily.

[BlownCamaro]

One of the gossip sites has the pic of him hanging in the closet, wig on and full body stocking on. Kinda creepy and sad to see at the same time.

[The Postmaster General]

Has anyone seen the movie Sonny Boy?

[Smiert Spionam]

Frankly, I think suicide and dying of old age are pussy ways to die.
Carradine had style.

[jackson13]

Just read a story on yahoo that the forensics guy on the case said he did not commit suicide. So it was either a very unfortunate accident or done....professionally.


Kinda odd that it was in Bangkok. I cant help but create scenarios in my head that its connected to the Yakuza somehow. Kinda like how a ton of people believe the Yakuza offed Bruce Lee, and then his son, long ago.

Call me crazy, cause I know someone will.

[Natty]

Wasn't Bruce Lee (and Brandon) supposedly killed by some kind of wierd Japanese devil spirit?

[jackson13]

Wasn't Bruce Lee (and Brandon) supposedly killed by some kind of wierd Japanese devil spirit?

That I've never heard, but I have heard, from quite a few different people, that Bruce and eventually Brandon, were involved in the Yakuza and they either pissed them off somehow or got "too big", celeb wise, and were taken out.

[Natty]

Yeah in the Bruce Lee biopic (called Dragon and well worth a watch) his dad tells him at the beginning that a devil is hunting the family and has been for a while. However, the film also shows that Lee pisses of some pretty important people back in his home country because of his 'status' (not sure if it was the Yakuza though, Lee is from Hong Kong).

[adamjohnson]

Wasn't Bruce Lee (and Brandon) supposedly killed by some kind of wierd Japanese devil spirit?

I believe that was all just symbolism for the tragic occurrences that happen to him, and not wanting to pass them to his son.

[The Postmaster General]

That I've never heard, but I have heard, from quite a few different people, that Bruce and eventually Brandon, were involved in the Yakuza and they either pissed them off somehow or got "too big", celeb wise, and were taken out.



I thought there was something about Bruce showing Americans the ancient art, which was considered sacred, and trivializing it by making it into entertainment, and then Brandon more or less for the "crimes" of his father?

[the clever guy]

Yeah in the Bruce Lee biopic (called Dragon and well worth a watch) his dad tells him at the beginning that a devil is hunting the family and has been for a while. However, the film also shows that Lee pisses of some pretty important people back in his home country because of his 'status' (not sure if it was the Yakuza though, Lee is from Hong Kong).

Ugh, that movie shat on Bruce Lee's legacy. Entertaining, sure...but muffed a lot of events in his history. That fight on the set of 'Fist of Fury' never happened in real life. And he broke his back performing dead lifts, not from a martial artist...if anything, every martial artist he came across fleed when he would fight them; especially the martial artist that challenged him to stop teaching kung-fu for good. Sure, it was all for entertainment purposes...but it's those little things that send people in a different direction with the actor it's based on.

Bruce Lee's death will forever be shrouded in mystery, imo. Was he killed by a Yakuza hit? Was he killed because of an allegic reaction to medication he took for a headache while at his girlfriend's house (while supposedly having an affair)? Was he killed because of an aneurism? Was he killed by the "touch of death?" Was he poisoned? Was he killed because he was revealing ancient Chinese secrets (which may or may not have anything to do with the Yakuza since that's a JAPANESE mafia)? I've heard it all. Demons (or 'Oni' as they're referred to), I've never heard of until now. Although, I have heard of a "family curse"...hence, the conspiracy with Brandon Lee's death at the time of HIS biggest movie. So many conspiracies...

Same with now David Carradine's death. Was it suicide? Was it murder? Was it accidental death? Was it a Yakuza hit? What is it about Asain martial arts stars/actors that have their deaths shrouded in mystery?

[echo_bravo]

Jeez David Carradine was kind of a sick fuck. Next thing you know one of his ex wives is gonna come out and say that he enjoyed sticking gerbils up his ass.

[BlownCamaro]

Naaa gerbils are for amateurs, he used full grown cats.

[echo_bravo]

Naaa gerbils are for amateurs, he used full grown cats.

LOL very true. Carradine isnt a pussy like Richard Gere.

[The Postmaster General]

Was he killed because he was revealing ancient Chinese secrets (which may or may not have anything to do with the Yakuza since that's a JAPANESE mafia)?


Just so you know, I was bringing that up as another option, sort of leading to where you took it all the way --- there's tons of different theories.

[the clever guy]

Well, y'know Bubba, lately we've both been kind of feeding off one another posts for whatever reason. You take it one way and I extend upon it and vice versa. But I agree, there's so many theories ALREADY as to his death (speaking of Carradine's), let alone Bruce Lee's death. It's like the Abraham Lincoln and JFK conspiracy similarities....pretty soon we're gonna hear about Bruce Lee and David Carradine conspiracy similarities. :rolleyes:

[John Galt]

Ugh, that movie shat on Bruce Lee's legacy. Entertaining, sure...but muffed a lot of events in his history. That fight on the set of 'Fist of Fury' never happened in real life. And he broke his back performing dead lifts, not from a martial artist...if anything, every martial artist he came across fleed when he would fight them; especially the martial artist that challenged him to stop teaching kung-fu for good. Sure, it was all for entertainment purposes...but it's those little things that send people in a different direction with the actor it's based on.



But didn't Bolo Yeung earn respect by successfully being able to counter Bruce Lee? I thought that's how he got his big start.