Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

[Lazy Boy]

http://www.reelmovienews.com/images/gallery/new-transformers-revenge-of-the-fallen-poster.jpg

Directed by Michael Bay

Written by Ehren Kruger, Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman

Genre: Action

Tagline: Revenge is coming.

Plot: Decepticon forces return to Earth on a mission to take Sam Witwicky prisoner, after the young hero learns the truth about the ancient origins of the Transformers. Joining the mission to protect humankind is Optimus Prime, who forms an alliance with international armies for a second epic battle.

Starring: Shia LeBeouf, Megan Fox, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, John Turturro

Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of sci-fi action violence, language, some crude and sexual material, and brief drug material.

Runtime: 147 minutes

Release date: June 24th, 2009

It'll probably be enjoyable crap, but crap nonetheless.

[BakeTheMooCow]

It'll probably be enjoyable crap, but crap nonetheless.

That's what they said about the first Transformers movie, those bastards! It was one of the least enjoyable movie-going experiences of my life. This one seems louder and dumber. Fuck Michael Bay!

[Tweek]

Blech! LeBeouf and Fox displease me. :( I didn't like the first movie. I doubt I'll watch this one.

[Bahs]

I agree, one of those movies i kinda have to turn off my brain to watch, but i realize that once i do, i end up enjoying it.

[Heisenberg]

Liked the first, This looks epic. Gonna catch at the theatre for sure.

[Bourne101]

Enjoyed the first one, wasn't great or anything, but enjoyable. I imagine this will be more of the same.

[Mr.HyDe807]

The first one was pretty enjoyable, so I'm hoping this one is too.

[BakeTheMooCow]

I was listening to John Turturro promoting this on Simon Mayo's show and Mayo asked him to compare and contrast working for Michael Bay compared to the Coen brothers. Turturro just laughed! And then he struggled to compliment Bay, saying that the Coen brothers' scripts are more "character driven" (i.e. intelligent) and Bay's films are "more visual" (i.e. pornographic garbage).

Later on, John says that his younger son is 8 years old and Simon Mayo says to him that he probably wishes that his dad would work on Michael Bay films rather than Coen films. And John says that his son will probably appreciate the Coen films when he's older.

It was hilarious to listen to. He practically admits that the films are made for 8 year old kids and there is pretty much no script. It's just robots fighting each other while Megan Fox shows cleavage and Shia LeBoeuf runs in slow motion. Predictable, boring, childish HORSESHIT.

[Danger^Cart]

I'll tolerate all the bullshit for the few scenes of robot-on-robot redrum, as with the first one.

I'll sit through just about anything to see Optimus shank a bitch.

[Cop No. 633]

I was listening to John Turturro promoting this on Simon Mayo's show and Mayo asked him to compare and contrast working for Michael Bay compared to the Coen brothers. Turturro just laughed! And then he struggled to compliment Bay, saying that the Coen brothers' scripts are more "character driven" (i.e. intelligent) and Bay's films are "more visual" (i.e. pornographic garbage).

Later on, John says that his younger son is 8 years old and Simon Mayo says to him that he probably wishes that his dad would work on Michael Bay films rather than Coen films. And John says that his son will probably appreciate the Coen films when he's older.

It was hilarious to listen to. He practically admits that the films are made for 8 year old kids and there is pretty much no script. It's just robots fighting each other while Megan Fox shows cleavage and Shia LeBoeuf runs in slow motion. Predictable, boring, childish HORSESHIT.

That's hilarious. At he's aware of the quality of this film. I was at a barbeque with my neighbors and some kids were there and this movie came up. Everyone couldn't wait to see it, they were all excited. I wish I had transcribed the discussion on paper. It would've looked like I was hanging out in a room full of pre-teens.

[Lazy Boy]

Turturro's just doing it for the paycheck, and at least he knows that there's no great art here -- he's a good actor in some pretty shitty movies (Pelham remake is just another example). Although I sure as hell wouldn't have the interest to return to a role where I got pissed on by a robot the first time 'round.

I'm surprised they didn't squeeze Voight back in there, they got most of the original cast. I guess he was too busy going on his cross country rants against Obama.

[echo_bravo]

Skipping it for sure. Especially after seeing photos of Megan Fox's thumbs. She belongs in the circus!

And Shia? That guy is the luckiest piece of shit in Hollywood. I heard he is banking 5 million up front for this film.:eek:

I'll save my cash for Public Enemies.

[razgriz21]

The first one was pretty enjoyable, so I'm hoping this one is too.

Same here. It was better than the Spider-Man movies thank goodness.

I'm hoping the sequel is entertaining too.

[DaMovieMan]

I agree, one of those movies i kinda have to turn off my brain to watch, but i realize that once i do, i end up enjoying it.

True.

I will enjoy this as well I think.

[Homyrrh]

Yeah, college = no $, but I'm sure I'll talk my way into a ticket. No one can tell me this isn't the ideal summer "flick"...at least one very attractive female; a mindless, formulaic plot; and lots of Michael Bay-patented explosions are ridiculously unnecessary special effects.

[athf1980]

I highly enjoy the first one so I'm defently seeing this. I'm expecting a popcorn movie w. no brains

[BakeTheMooCow]

You'd think that with movies like "The Dark Knight", "Iron Man" and "Star Trek" that people would have higher standards for their summer popcorn movies. You know, a movie that treats its audience like adults.

But nope -- let's keep forking over our money to Michael Bay so he can deaden our senses for years to come.

[someguy]

Don't worry Bake, their impact is starting to be felt. The Dark Knight clearly had Michael Bay freaking out since he decided to shoot a few scenes in this movie in IMAX. This will bank a lot of money but it's not going to do TDK numbers obviously. I'm interested in seeing if it'll beat Star Trek.

[overwatch]

I'll see it for the effects. I think it's okay to watch and enjoy so long as people don't compare them to movies with actual narratives.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Don't worry Bake, their impact is starting to be felt. The Dark Knight clearly had Michael Bay freaking out since he decided to shoot a few scenes in this movie in IMAX. This will bank a lot of money but it's not going to do TDK numbers obviously. I'm interested in seeing if it'll beat Star Trek.

I think it will. Nikki Finke at DHD has been saying that this will make $160 - $175m from Wednesday to Sunday. Now she has been somewhat unreliable in the past, but I don't think she will be way off. People will eat this up.

[Heisenberg]

What the fuck is wrong with wanting to see a film that requires little brain power to enjoy? These films are made for the experience, which i'm guessing will be fucking amazing at the cinema.

[Terror Australis]

I aboslutely loved the first and I know for a fact that I am gonna have an absoute blast watching this one as well. Can't fuckin' wait!

[Jig Saw 123]

The first one of course had its flaws, but I think this will fix those flaws and take the fight to the next level. I'm excited by the number of robot fights that appear to be in the movie and that Starscream will be getting more attention this time around. Will be seeing it opening night.

And what do people really expect from a movie based on a toyline? The movie isn't terrible like Dragonball or Speed Racer, but of course its not on the level of The Godfather or Scarface. Its a popcorn flick so just sit back and stop complaining.

[mutant_gorilla]

The movie isn't terrible like Dragonball or Speed Racer, but of course its not on the level of The Godfather or Scarface. Its a popcorn flick so just sit back and stop complaining.

Uh....Did you SEE Dragonball? I'm sorry, but I guess I'm super sensitive. Speed Racer is one of my all time favorite movies. Comparing it to Dragonball is like.....Comparing The Matrix to Land Before Time 11.

But anyway. So stoked for Transformers.

[Monotreme]

Loved the first one for the sheer, in-your-face, no-holds-barred purely enjoyable piece of popcorn entertainment it was. It never aspired to be anything more, and it wasn't. It was just pure, enjoyable, hilarious fun with the best effects of any movie in recent years (robbed of an Oscar for best visual effects, I tell you). And I just know that the sequel will be just the same, so I'll be there opening day, you can bet on it!

[Tweek]

You'd think that with movies like "The Dark Knight", "Iron Man" and "Star Trek" that people would have higher standards for their summer popcorn movies. You know, a movie that treats its audience like adults.

But nope -- let's keep forking over our money to Michael Bay so he can deaden our senses for years to come.

Thank you! I like fun action movies that do not feel insulting to my (already suspect;)) intelligence to watch.

[Jig Saw 123]

Uh....Did you SEE Dragonball? I'm sorry, but I guess I'm super sensitive. Speed Racer is one of my all time favorite movies. Comparing it to Dragonball is like.....Comparing The Matrix to Land Before Time 11.

But anyway. So stoked for Transformers.

Dragonball is the worse film of 2009 and one of the worse films ever made, Speed Racer is sloppy and pays too much attention to delivering a stylistic racing experience yet the story is everywhere and falls on its face. Both were bad films, but Dragonball was just worse.

[Monotreme]

As I've alraedy mentioned in the various Star Trek threads, I don't think Star Trek is any more intelligent, serious, meaningful or deep as the first Transformers was, and consequently, both films actually benefit from the same things, which is having great and charming lead actors, lots of humour, not taking themselves very seriously and some of the most fantastic and outrageously entertaining production value, effects and set pieces. And I don't see anything wrong with that - it worked well for Star Trek, it worked well for Iron Man, and it worked well for the first Transformers. And from the looks of it, it'll work well for the sequel as well.

[BakeTheMooCow]

As I've alraedy mentioned in the various Star Trek threads, I don't think Star Trek is any more intelligent, serious, meaningful or deep as the first Transformers was, and consequently, both films actually benefit from the same things, which is having great and charming lead actors, lots of humour, not taking themselves very seriously and some of the most fantastic and outrageously entertaining production value, effects and set pieces. And I don't see anything wrong with that - it worked well for Star Trek, it worked well for Iron Man, and it worked well for the first Transformers. And from the looks of it, it'll work well for the sequel as well.

I don't agree with that. "Iron Man" and "Star Trek" aren't deep, meaningful films but they have something to say beyond the explosions and special effects. There are themes of fate and free will & terrorism and its causes, and whether or not you think those themes were adequately explored, they did make an attempt to reach out to an audience old enough to ride bicycles without training wheels. "Transformers" on the other hand is about robots killing other robots and nothing else.

[Monotreme]

I don't agree with that. "Iron Man" and "Star Trek" aren't deep, meaningful films but they have something to say beyond the explosions and special effects. There are themes of fate and free will & terrorism and its causes, and whether or not you think those themes were adequately explored, they did make an attempt to reach out to an audience old enough to ride bicycles without training wheels. "Transformers" on the other hand is about robots killing other robots and nothing else.

Alright, I'll give you that much. But Transformers does "robots killing other robots" so much better, light-hearted, not-taken-seriously, and entertainingly than any other movie could even conceive of DREAMING of doing, that it gets more of a passing grade from me. Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that it's a "great" film. But it's just basically the ultimate pure-entertainment-value guilty pleasure.

[razgriz21]

Alright, I'll give you that much. But Transformers does "robots killing other robots" so much better, light-hearted, not-taken-seriously, and entertainingly than any other movie could even conceive of DREAMING of doing, that it gets more of a passing grade from me. Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that it's a "great" film. But it's just basically the ultimate pure-entertainment-value guilty pleasure.

Agree.

Best of the Summer blockbuster fare of 2007.

[gayzilla]

Wow, I'm surprised at the number of idiots posting in this forum. First. the Dark Knight has nothing to do with MB filiming in IMAX. A four week exclusive window on IMAX screens has EVERYTHING to do with it. Hell, that even got Harry Potter pushed back from IMAX. The people dumping on this movie that havn't even seen it yet are probably the types who hate Ghostbusters because it has humor, or Gremilins since it's not deathly serious. It sad that some of you guys lack the ability to find joy in such things. This will be the biggest movie of the summer (all year until December anyway).

I can't wait to see it. I had so much fun at the theater on the first film. I probably watch it atleast once a month. And this one is going to be vicious. Lots of robot deaths, which Bay can get away with in PG-13.

Not to say it will be perfect. For some reason there are prudish dickwads with sticks up their asses who proclaim to have a disdain for potty humor (Like they never made a fart joke) well this film will have stuff that puts Bumblebee pissing to shame. I say bring it on. I can take, there's no stick up my ass (not right now anyway)

Everything that you loved about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. Everything you hated about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. I think it's great. THis will be a great time for familys all summer long.

and btw, if you hated the first movie, why do you spend so much time talking about it? I never understood that. I can't stand Mariah Carey, and the last place you will find me is on a Mariah Carey site complaining about her. But I guess some people can't help but Troll. But Im just glad the Michael Bay and the writing team stayed true to the essence of Transformers and kept the humor and plot in line with the Cartoon. The last thing we need is a serious movie about Robot aliens from space bashing each other. (it didn't work so well for Terminator Salvation)

I like my cheese with Wine and Crackers, and that's how I'll take my transformers too. BTW, Sideways is fucking awesome. Love that whole design and the toy is great too.

[gayzilla]

... "Transformers" on the other hand is about robots killing other robots and nothing else.

Not true at all. One need only to listen to the dialogue of Optimus Prime to find the moral center of the film and the entire series. It's about the battle of Good vs. Evil. The right of sentient beings to exist and not be exploited or exterminated. BUt I can understand if the explosions are too big for you to be able to see the forest for the trees.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Alright, I'll give you that much. But Transformers does "robots killing other robots" so much better, light-hearted, not-taken-seriously, and entertainingly than any other movie could even conceive of DREAMING of doing, that it gets more of a passing grade from me. Don't get me wrong, I don't actually think that it's a "great" film. But it's just basically the ultimate pure-entertainment-value guilty pleasure.

Fair enough. If the movie worked purely as eye candy, I can see people finding some enjoyment in that. However, the first one didn't even work on that level for me.

[Tweek]

Wow, I'm surprised at the number of idiots posting in this forum. First. the Dark Knight has nothing to do with MB filiming in IMAX. A four week exclusive window on IMAX screens has EVERYTHING to do with it. Hell, that even got Harry Potter pushed back from IMAX. The people dumping on this movie that havn't even seen it yet are probably the types who hate Ghostbusters because it has humor, or Gremilins since it's not deathly serious. It sad that some of you guys lack the ability to find joy in such things. This will be the biggest movie of the summer (all year until December anyway).

I can't wait to see it. I had so much fun at the theater on the first film. I probably watch it atleast once a month. And this one is going to be vicious. Lots of robot deaths, which Bay can get away with in PG-13.

Not to say it will be perfect. For some reason there are prudish dickwads with sticks up their asses who proclaim to have a disdain for potty humor (Like they never made a fart joke) well this film will have stuff that puts Bumblebee pissing to shame. I say bring it on. I can take, there's no stick up my ass (not right now anyway)

Everything that you loved about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. Everything you hated about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. I think it's great. THis will be a great time for familys all summer long.

and btw, if you hated the first movie, why do you spend so much time talking about it? I never understood that. I can't stand Mariah Carey, and the last place you will find me is on a Mariah Carey site complaining about her. But I guess some people can't help but Troll. But Im just glad the Michael Bay and the writing team stayed true to the essence of Transformers and kept the humor and plot in line with the Cartoon. The last thing we need is a serious movie about Robot aliens from space bashing each other. (it didn't work so well for Terminator Salvation)

I like my cheese with Wine and Crackers, and that's how I'll take my transformers too. BTW, Sideways is fucking awesome. Love that whole design and the toy is great too.
Do you really have to resort to insults? I mean, really?

http://www.joblo.com/forums/announcement.php?f=7

1) You do not disrespect, insult or put down your fellow movie fan on our board. Civil debates only.

[Mr.HyDe807]

What Tweek said. Some people don't mind the mindless action Gayzilla, but there are some that think it's not necessary to dumb down a movie experience in order for it to be enjoyable. Different strokes for different folks.

Hell, I'm pretty excited for this one, not overly excited like I was for The Dark Knight I must admit, but excited nonetheless.

[xseanymacx]

Loved all of the action in the first one but hated when any non-robot opened their mouth to speak. I'm all for giant robots rocking the fuck out of each other, munching popcorn & drinking soda...high...and seeing me some Megan Fox.

[razgriz21]

If a third movie is happening, I hope Michael Bay will be back.

[Heisenberg]

If a third movie is happening, I hope Michael Bay will be back.

You will be happy to know that indeed both these things are happening. :)

[g05]

Yeah, college = no $, but I'm sure I'll talk my way into a ticket. No one can tell me this isn't the ideal summer "flick"...at least one very attractive female; a mindless, formulaic plot; and lots of Michael Bay-patented explosions are ridiculously unnecessary special effects.

i'd buy you a ticket just because i'm a nice person. :)

[razgriz21]

I like my Die Hard Trilogy, The Terminator, Aliens, Heat, The Rock, and Grindhouse, but I welcome this movie.

I think of it as wild but mindless entertainment.

[Cop No. 633]

Wow, I'm surprised at the number of idiots posting in this forum. First. the Dark Knight has nothing to do with MB filiming in IMAX. A four week exclusive window on IMAX screens has EVERYTHING to do with it. Hell, that even got Harry Potter pushed back from IMAX. The people dumping on this movie that havn't even seen it yet are probably the types who hate Ghostbusters because it has humor, or Gremilins since it's not deathly serious. It sad that some of you guys lack the ability to find joy in such things. This will be the biggest movie of the summer (all year until December anyway).

I can't wait to see it. I had so much fun at the theater on the first film. I probably watch it atleast once a month. And this one is going to be vicious. Lots of robot deaths, which Bay can get away with in PG-13.

Not to say it will be perfect. For some reason there are prudish dickwads with sticks up their asses who proclaim to have a disdain for potty humor (Like they never made a fart joke) well this film will have stuff that puts Bumblebee pissing to shame. I say bring it on. I can take, there's no stick up my ass (not right now anyway)

Everything that you loved about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. Everything you hated about the first movie will be bigger and badder here. I think it's great. THis will be a great time for familys all summer long.

and btw, if you hated the first movie, why do you spend so much time talking about it? I never understood that. I can't stand Mariah Carey, and the last place you will find me is on a Mariah Carey site complaining about her. But I guess some people can't help but Troll. But Im just glad the Michael Bay and the writing team stayed true to the essence of Transformers and kept the humor and plot in line with the Cartoon. The last thing we need is a serious movie about Robot aliens from space bashing each other. (it didn't work so well for Terminator Salvation)

I like my cheese with Wine and Crackers, and that's how I'll take my transformers too. BTW, Sideways is fucking awesome. Love that whole design and the toy is great too.

I always find it amazing that people get their panties in a bunch over shit like Transformers or Terminator or whatever big blockbuster not getting love from people. Seriously, grow up. You don't see me or other people get angry that Moon barely gets any attention or when people say some old black and white movie is stupid. It's only with these kinds of movies that people get so insecure about liking them. If you really didn't care, why are you angry that some of us think this movie looks stupid? I tried watching the first one, but I stopped at the half hour point, the humans annoyed the hell out of me. I didn't care for the plot. I just wasn't enjoying it. I saw the preview for the second, so why can't I say that it looks just as bad as the first? What exactly is wrong with that?

I also love that you people also accuse us of not being able to enjoy entertaining movies just because we don't like Transformers or whatever movie. I grew up on Ghost Busters and Gremlins, I love Caddyshack, and Big Trouble in Little China fucking rocks. Seriously, this argument is stupid. Quit making up strawmen that don't exist.

Making one or two posts saying that we think the movie looks dumb does not equate to us "spending sooo much time." I just think it's funny people go out of their way to defend these huge blockbusters as if they're these defenseless animals that need protection. I guess we should all shut up and let you guys live in this little utopia of praise where everyone just agrees that Transformers looks fucking awesome!!!

I think you're the one who has to get the stick out of your ass, buddy.

[adamjohnson]

I like how Sam treats Bumblebee like a retarded puppy.

"Sorry, cant take you with me, boy"

When in reality he's talking to a giant sentient robot that has mastered space travel and intergalactic warfare.

I'd like to see him take Bumblebee to get neutered in part 3.

[ilovemovies]

My problem with the first Transformers wasn't the bad acting and horrible writing. As bad as the acting and writing were, the movie still could have been fun with those flaws. Nope there were two things that killed it for me.


1) Too much focus on the boring human characters, not enough focus on the transformers themselves. Whenever it was just the autobots on screen, there were fleeting moments of fun in the movie. Unfortunately, they then come back to Shai Lebouf and Megan Fox and Josh Duhamel and the other boring human characters.

and

2) This is what REALLY killed the movie IMO! The dreaded use of the shaky cam. I know Michael Bay loves his quickcuts and they normally don't bother me TOO much in his movies. But when he uses quickcuts WITH the shaky cam there is a HUGE problem and it made following the action in the movie to be a real chore.


My hope for this movie is that he doesn't use the shaky cam so much this time around and he calms down a bit. I actually normally enjoy Michael Bay's movies. The Rock and Armageddon were especially fun movies.

Of course better writing would be great too. But I won't expect much.

Here is the thing that I don't get though. I keep hearing that this movie looks much more epic than the first one but I don't get that feeling at all from the trailer. Truth be told, from the trailers the action scenes look pretty close to be hohum to me. And I HATE that John Turturro is back again because his character truly grated on my nerves last time around!

I've also heard that Glenn Morshower is back in this movie but I'm pretty sure his character was killed in the first one. So, WTF?!

[adamjohnson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkUogaMTbW0

[ilovemovies]

I actually don't mind the shots he does of the camera panning around the characters though I'll admit I got a kick out of that video. Though I could have done without the guy vomiting at the end.

The only thing that annoys me with Bay is how in love he is with quickcuts. That can get annoying.


I watched a few clips from Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen with the hope that it'll be awesome and get me a little more excited about the movie. Instead, it did the opposite. It confirmed to me my beliefs that this movie is gonna suck hard.

[Mr.HyDe807]

I've been wanting to ask the question pertaining to the Michael bay makes me sick video, whats the movie at the end with the puking?

[Heisenberg]

I've seen two clips, one with the little robot (funny) and another short clip of Devastator in action (epic win!) So this movie is looking fandabbydozy to me.

I agree with the quickcuts and the shakey cam, they pissed me off. Also the fact that EVERY SINGLE TRANSFORMER WAS THE SAME COLOUR. Which made the fighting near impossible to understand.

[project 86]

Bay keeping it Classy i see :

There are two robots in the film called Mudflap and Skids, and despite being red and green, respectively, they are voiced in a way that clearly designates them to be the “black” robots. Also, Skids has a gold front tooth (no, I’m serious) and both cannot read.

[Cop No. 633]

Bay keeping it Classy i see :

There are two robots in the film called Mudflap and Skids, and despite being red and green, respectively, they are voiced in a way that clearly designates them to be the “black” robots. Also, Skids has a gold front tooth (no, I’m serious) and both cannot read.

You've got to be shitting me, right?

[razgriz21]

Bay keeping it Classy i see :

There are two robots in the film called Mudflap and Skids, and despite being red and green, respectively, they are voiced in a way that clearly designates them to be the “black” robots. Also, Skids has a gold front tooth (no, I’m serious) and both cannot read.

My only gripe so far.

Wednesday, here I come. Pray that those two characters get eviscerated by a Decepticon.

[Terror Australis]

I don't know whether to laugh or be horrified by this news, but apparently in the new film Devastator has balls. Literary.


http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/devastators_got_nards.php


Actually on second though, I think that it is kind of hilarious:D.

[DaMovieMan]

I don't know whether to laugh or be horrified by this news, but apparently in the new film Devastator has balls. Literary.


http://www.toplessrobot.com/2009/06/devastators_got_nards.php


Actually on second though, I think that it is kind of hilarious:D.

That's ridiculous. And not in a good way.

With the four clips I just saw in the JoBlo videos and THAT...I think I might have spoken too soon when I said I might enjoy this one.

That little stupid robot saying shit like 'you might be hot but you're stupid' and the fact that Decepticon has robo-testicles is actually a travesty to the Transformer cartoons. It's a good thing I'm not a die-hard fan or I would seriously hate these films. But no matter how cool the robot fights will look, I think my brain will freeze during this film. It can freeze even when it's turned off.

[Terror Australis]

I just found out that Candyman himself Tony Todd is the voice of "The Fallen". Head. About. To. Explode. From. Shear. Awesomeness....

http://www.triffid.org/blog/uploaded_images/scanners4-702143.jpg

[ericdraven]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkUogaMTbW0

so. much. 360. aghhhh

[Strider]

I just found out that Candyman himself Tony Todd is the voice of "The Fallen". Head. About. To. Explode. From. Shear. Awesomeness.

Seriously? That's awesome news indeed. I was wondering who they picked to voice The Fallen yesterday.

Anyway...

I'm really looking forward to this second Transformers installment. I thoroughly enjoyed the first one, and this sequel looks like more mindless fun. I'll be seeing this on the IMAX.

Strider

[razgriz21]

Any negative reviews are not going to deter my opinion.

Sure, it may be dumb, but it is a wild ride and entertaining.

[Dm_Imp]

I've been wanting to ask the question pertaining to the Michael bay makes me sick video, whats the movie at the end with the puking?

It's from the HBO show "Carnivale".

[poopontheshoes7]

The first film is one of the most addictingly entertaining films I've ever seen. This looks bigger in every way. Can't wait (Guess that makes me a idiot huh?). Got my tickets for midnight show!

The only thing that has me worried are the Twins. Hopefully they won't have much screentime.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Bay keeping it Classy i see :

There are two robots in the film called Mudflap and Skids, and despite being red and green, respectively, they are voiced in a way that clearly designates them to be the “black” robots. Also, Skids has a gold front tooth (no, I’m serious) and both cannot read.

I see Bay is keeping the token black characters in check.:rolleyes:

[adamjohnson]

I actually don't mind the shots he does of the camera panning around the characters though I'll admit I got a kick out of that video. Though I could have done without the guy vomiting at the end.

The only thing that annoys me with Bay is how in love he is with quickcuts. That can get annoying.

Wait wait wait

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyx2dHAguuU

The guy is such a ridiculous parody of himself.

[ericdraven]

Bay keeping it Classy i see :

There are two robots in the film called Mudflap and Skids, and despite being red and green, respectively, they are voiced in a way that clearly designates them to be the “black” robots. Also, Skids has a gold front tooth (no, I’m serious) and both cannot read.

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n197/TheNovak/Photoshopped%20Transformer%20Snarks/ironhide_facepalm.jpg

[outsyder]

The more I hear about this, the less I want to see it. And the level it started at was tepid interest at best.

You know what? I'm skipping it. The line in the sand has been drawn, Michael Bay.

[SuperMarcey]

I don't go into a movie like this looking for an intelligent story, I go into a movie like this for fun, dumb big fun and if it delivers that I will be happy. That and Megan Fox being hot, who cares about anything else.

[Danger^Cart]

I'll tolerate all the bullshit for the few scenes of robot-on-robot redrum, as with the first one.

I'll sit through just about anything to see Optimus shank a bitch.

With every snippet of news about the movie, I have to remind myself why I'm seeing this.

Yeah...there it is....

Yeah.

[HedwigX]

I don't go into a movie like this looking for an intelligent story, I go into a movie like this for fun, dumb big fun and if it delivers that I will be happy. That and Megan Fox being hot, who cares about anything else.

I'm in the UK and I've seen the film, and I didn't get any of the things you mentioned there. The film isn't fun- it's overlong, boring as hell after the first hour, and incoherent. And I don't find Megan Fox hot either.

You may all enjoy it though :)

[Natty]

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Michael Bay, 2009)

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Film/Pix/pictures/2009/6/18/1245329295655/Transformers-Revenge-Of-T-001.jpg

Of the three films my friends are interested in seeing this summer, this was one of them. First of all, I think I'm a good judge of movies and the low score may be because I'm used to watching good quality classic films that I haven't seen before but this wasn't great at all and certainly not as good as the first one. I don't mind the typical Bay stuff like product placement, slow-motion and explosions (the action scenes were good as expected), its just that there were so many other things about this film that made it hard to watch. Revenge of the Fallen is predictable, poorly written and way too long. Two things really, really annoyed me: 1) Why must Bay play a indie love song every time Megan Fox is on screen and 2) What was with those painfully racist (yeah I said racist, wachagonnado?) mini-like robot twins, man I wanted those characters to die. Aside from the impressive special effects, the film's 'deep side' about moving on to University is nicely done and the big, unexpected set piece of the film made one of my friends cry (we are all 18-year-old men I remind you), but the films attempts to emotionally manipulate people with slow-mo crying faces and classical strings music overplaying the action didn't work on me one bit. The other films my friends want to see are Bruno and Inglorious Basterds, two films that I'm sure will be better than this.

5/10

Complaint number 2: Mudflap and Skids that's it, two robots that should get Bay in trouble.

[sbunn10]

dang... I expected it to be more than that Natty... dunno why I did. I think it was more hope than anything.. :(

O well. Maybe I'll still enjoy it for what it is.

[razgriz21]

Really, I'll make my own opinion. I still remember negative reviews from the first one and I ended up enjoying it a lot.

It already is better than Terminator Salvation or Year One.

[ElderPredator]

Everybody hated the first one and it was my favourite movie of the year. I don't give a shit about "deep storylines" or "intelligent dialogue" in a fucking TRANSFORMERS movie. I want to see pure robot carnage and smokin' hot Megan Fox thighs for two and a half hours....end of story. It's just pure popcorn fun, what's wrong with that?

Funny how all the "critics" are bashing the film yet everyone who loved or at least liked the first movie ABSOLUTELY LOVE the sequel. I'm still unbelievably excited.

And then next week, I'll look forward to a deep and powerful crime thriller called "Public Enemies".

[outsyder]

Everybody hated the first one and it was my favourite movie of the year. I don't give a shit about "deep storylines" or "intelligent dialogue" in a fucking TRANSFORMERS movie.

What? Do you not think it would be better WITH those things?

[adamjohnson]

What? Do you not think it would be better WITH those things?

Hey, remember who you're talking to.

[SuperMarcey]

I'm in the UK and I've seen the film, and I didn't get any of the things you mentioned there. The film isn't fun- it's overlong, boring as hell after the first hour, and incoherent. And I don't find Megan Fox hot either.

You may all enjoy it though :)

Ah well if you dont find her hot...then theres not much to be enjoyed :p

After everything Im hearing, I want to see this even more. Makes me wonder about those comments Spielberg made, Bay's best film ect ect...

[Heisenberg]

I'm sorry but people going into this movie expecting 'The Shawshank Redemption with robots' are fucking idiots, the plot of these Transformers films are shite, yes. But who cares? I'm going to see transformers for robot fights and kick ass action, and megan fox :D. People going for deep stoylines or character development are dilusional.

I'm getting sick of these 'snobs' constantly putting these films down, can we not have ONE FUCKING film that doesn't need brain power, CAN WE NOT HAVE A FUCKING GOOD TIME AT THE THEATRE!!?? Jesus fucking christ people, get a grip.

[sbunn10]

wow, maybe people were simply hoping to have a decent plot and script.. is that so wrong? Is it so terrible to hope that a movie is great, instead of just a fun popcorn flick?

The first was very entertaining, true, but the beginning, ending, and much of the script was pretty terrible. Did that stop it from being a fun summer blockbuster? Not at all, but it prevented it from being a great movie.

Why is it so bad to hope for more?

[razgriz21]

Everybody hated the first one and it was my favourite movie of the year. I don't give a shit about "deep storylines" or "intelligent dialogue" in a fucking TRANSFORMERS movie. I want to see pure robot carnage and smokin' hot Megan Fox thighs for two and a half hours....end of story. It's just pure popcorn fun, what's wrong with that?

Funny how all the "critics" are bashing the film yet everyone who loved or at least liked the first movie ABSOLUTELY LOVE the sequel. I'm still unbelievably excited.

And then next week, I'll look forward to a deep and powerful crime thriller called "Public Enemies".

Agree on all points.

I'm waiting Wednesday morning. Hope I'm setting myself up for disappointment.

[outsyder]

I'm getting sick of these 'snobs' constantly putting these films down, can we not have ONE FUCKING film that doesn't need brain power, CAN WE NOT HAVE A FUCKING GOOD TIME AT THE THEATRE!!?? Jesus fucking christ people, get a grip.

I'm really getting tired of responses like these. Nothing against you personally, but it seems every time something like this comes out, there's a preemptive outrage at anyone daring to call to attention the major flaws films like these have. Being 'fun' should not be an excuse to pump out pure shit over and over again, making films like these invulnerable to common criticisms that may apply to more dramatic or 'less fun' films.

No, there is nothing wrong with having a good time at the movies, but are we not allowed to attempt to hold these people who want our cash to a higher standard? It is possible to make a film that's both fun and well constructed.

If film studios keep hauling in massive amounts of cash for producing the same crap over and over again, then there's no need whatsoever for them to attempt to actually make the product they sell better, or to put more effort into it.

[razgriz21]

Enjoyed the first movie despite it's flaws.

Hopefully it will be the same as the second.

[Cop No. 633]

I'm really getting tired of responses like these. Nothing against you personally, but it seems every time something like this comes out, there's a preemptive outrage at anyone daring to call to attention the major flaws films like these have. Being 'fun' should not be an excuse to pump out pure shit over and over again, making films like these invulnerable to common criticisms that may apply to more dramatic or 'less fun' films.

No, there is nothing wrong with having a good time at the movies, but are we not allowed to attempt to hold these people who want our cash to a higher standard? It is possible to make a film that's both fun and well constructed.

If film studios keep hauling in massive amounts of cash for producing the same crap over and over again, then there's no need whatsoever for them to attempt to actually make the product they sell better, or to put more effort into it.

SHUT UP! STOP SAYING THESE THINGS! IT JUST MIGHT MAKE ME THINK TWICE ABOUT LIKING THE MOVIE!

People act like you or I have an aversion to blockbuster films when it's not even the case. It's just that more than lately, they've been really weak on the important things even blockbusters used to get right: good plot, good characters, a theme, some actual heart with good emotional content besides things exploding. The bad is really outnumbering the good more than usual. It reminds me of the analogy of films to food. Some films are like going to a 5-star restaurant. Some are like going to a burger shack. Stuff like this is like going to a burger shack but all they give you a piece of meat on a bun without any lettuce, tomato, onions, or any condiments. It's just a patty without any spice and bread. And when you ask where's the rest, the guy says, "How dare you even ask mother fucker! You want some fancy shit, go to Carl's Jr!"

[wheresdonnie?]

I'm in the UK and I've seen the film, and I didn't get any of the things you mentioned there. The film isn't fun- it's overlong, boring as hell after the first hour, and incoherent. And I don't find Megan Fox hot either.

You may all enjoy it though :)

Same here, apart from Megan Fox, lol. Too long, really boring, and definitely incoherent. It goes wrong in all the ways that the first film went right. I don't want to ruin anything, but there are several moments that were just absolutely terrible. The college scenes are really bad attempts at humour as are the two jive-talkin robots, and the old British robot. Yes there's lots of action, but the explosion porn goes so far that it becomes impossible to tell what's actually going on! I loved the first movie, wonderfully dumb, brainless fun. This one just plain sucked. My least favourite blockbuster of the summer so far, which is saying a lot!

[sbunn10]

SHUT UP! STOP SAYING THESE THINGS! IT JUST MIGHT MAKE ME THINK TWICE ABOUT LIKING THE MOVIE!

People act like you or I have an aversion to blockbuster films when it's not even the case. It's just that more than lately, they've been really weak on the important things even blockbusters used to get right: good plot, good characters, a theme, some actual heart with good emotional content besides things exploding. The bad is really outnumbering the good more than usual. It reminds me of the analogy of films to food. Some films are like going to a 5-star restaurant. Some are like going to a burger shack. Stuff like this is like going to a burger shack but all they give you a piece of meat on a bun without any lettuce, tomato, onions, or any condiments. It's just a patty without any spice and bread. And when you ask where's the rest, the guy says, "How dare you even ask mother fucker! You want some fancy shit, go to Carl's Jr!"


Yeah.. Jim Law and Moreno talked about this briefly on the most recent podcast. They mentioned how big movies from their childhood (Raiders of the Lost Ark, Star Wars, etc) hold up today b/c of the quality of plot, script, and overall value, whereas Transformers and a lot of new blockbusters rely on cgi, which will ultimately be trumped in the near future.

[Nazgul]

1 more day!!

[FireCaptain4]

This thing is collecting negative reviews faster than poo collects flies!

I still want to see it, but I'm getting a tad worried now. Some critics, along with fellow Schmoe Natty, who enjoyed the first one are saying this one is just too dumb and annoying.

I've almost broke my fingers by crossing them too hard.

[DaMovieMan]

It's all about how much stupidity you can tolerate for the sake of "having a fun time".

I think Transformer testicles, stereotyped token "black" robots and that little piece of shit robot with a Brooklyn accent tips it for me.

If i'm not doing anything maybe I'll see it but....seriously. There's fun and then there's something else.

At least Spielberg thinks "It's awesome"

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/bayspielberg.jpg

lol

[Mr.HyDe807]

I got my midnight showing tickets with my friends today. we like to find one summer blockbuster during the summer where we can all meet up and enjoy together. When the first one came out, we did that, and were doing it again with this one.

Although the word on those idiotic robots has me rolling my eyes, I will possibly enjoy this as much as the first one (8/10).....hopefully.:D

[NuclearMisfit]

Im most likely going to see it tomorrow evening.

[DarkAngel]

Its always the same argument;

"Theres no plot, theres no good acting vs. Its MICHAEL BAY & FKING Robots + shit Blowing Up"

Wahh wAHH...

I dont understand what so many people here are expecting to see out of a Transformers movie? Substance? Since when the FcUK did anything we watched as kids, including Transformers, M.A.S.K., GI JOE, Thundercats, SIlverhawks and a bunch of others MAKE F-ING sense? Are some of us here really that bitter that they want to make themselves sound better by taking a shot at a CGI-BLOW SHIT UP movie like this?

Mind you, the fact that Bumblebee is crying like a little Bitch and being talked to like a dog by Sam is stupid and left me at WTF? Even the Testicles thing on a certain HUGE robot is a bit on the, ARE YOU FING KIDDING ME? but why would anyone care enough to wine and bitch like its the end of the world? Are some of us that bitter that we forgot the fun you can have enjoying an idiotic yet awesome movie that is Transformers? Come on...We sat thru "THe Flight of the Navigator" as kids and I KNOW we thought it was the SHIT.
Ahh F it, You can hate it all you want. Sorry for the rant but it was a good time and it was worth my money.

I am not going to spoil it for some of you guys but its worth the time.

Oh yeah...and im looking forward to GI JOE and those insanely idiotic acceleration Delta 6 suits of bullshit that are coming our way..PLUS the fact RIPCORD WASNT BLACK!...lol..cant wait.

[someguy]

I also love when people pull out the ridiculous comparisons whenever someone complains about how certain movies like Transformers are nothing but style.

'Revenge of the Fallen doesn't look good, we just get robots fighting a lot and eye candy but that's it'
'WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EXPECTING, A FELLINI FILM?!!??! THIS AIN'T NO CITIZEN KANE THIS IS TRANSFORMERS MOTHERFUCKER'

People could just want to see an epic action movie with a good story, good well-developed characters, nice writing, plenty of great action sequences, an overall feeling of fun/entertainment, etc. instead of pure surface level action and nothing more. Star Trek did all the things that should be expected out of a summer blockbuster this year, Iron Man did it last year. I'm guessing that the point with a lot of the detractors in this thread is that by celebrating and promoting these kinds of movies it makes the Michael Bay formulas become the status quo while great action movies get pushed to the side or butchered into something else.

With all of that said though, I enjoy Michael Bay's movies. I am fully aware of the lack of real talent or direction he has, I know that his movies are offensive on some level, I know that they're big/loud/stupid but when I watch them I am entertained. I haven't seen Transformers but I'm sure when it's on TV one day I'll watch or record it. The same will likely happen with this movie.

[ilovemovies]

I loved The Rock and Armageddon mostly BECAUSE of the characters. Connery and Cage worked so well together and the Ed Harris character is actually very well developed and interesting and actually has dimensions to him. I loved that he was more of a tragic character than an outright bad guy.

And while the characters in Armageddon were more types than fully developed I still nevertheless enjoyed them enough that I cared what happened to them hence why the ending actually got to me and even made cry a little.

The Island didn't really have engaging characters but I liked the story. The two Bad Boys worked as well as they did for me because of the engaging chemistry between Smith and Lawrence.


For me, Transformers had a dumb plot, annoying characters spouting wretched dialogue and incomprehensible action. That was my reaction to it and that's how I think I will respond to the second one as well.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Surprisingly, I went to see this. Unsurprisingly, it was absolute trash.

And there is not a force on our planet that will convince me that certain parts of the film were not racially offensive. You'll see.

Shiny, difficult to follow who was doing what and to whom, and Megan Fox continues to bore the ever-loving fuck out of me with her gratuitous and totally risible introductory scene. Have a wank? It'd be easier to raise the Titanic.

It was also too fucking loud.

Not only was it wrong, it was wrong at the top of its voice.

(Two good movie quotes in my post about this bilge water; I must be trying to over-compensate for having put pennies in Bay's coffers).

[BakeTheMooCow]

Man, Ebert's review (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090623/REVIEWS/906239997) --- oh snap!

Thing is, I KNOW how bad this will be. I don't need to see it to find out. A lot of people are going to say, well go see it anyway, it'll be fun, leave your brain at the door... all that nonsense. Well, this is me going back in time and consciously making a decision not to contribute to this trash. I don't even want to pay for another movie and go watch this because it would make me feel dirty. Whatever 0.0000000001% dent I can make in Michael Bay's career box office, I am happy to make it.

To follow up on the racism talk by Reigh and other schmoes, Nick Schager, who I respect a lot wrote that this thing has "lots and lots of racism" and I've read the guy's work for years and he doesn't make those accusations lightly. Another reason not to support that hack.

[The Arrow]

...but TRANSFORMERS 2 hurt me...
http://www.joblo.com/arrow/reviews.php?id=1310

OUCHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[ilovemovies]

It boggles my mind that the same writers for this movie (and the first movie) are the same writers who have done Fringe, Alias and Mission Impossible III. I loved those three, but clearly the Transformers franchise is horribly written.

It's almost as mind boggling that the writer of Jack Frost (the straight to video slasher trash) also wrote the brilliant screenplay for Identity. And Akiva Goldsman wrote both Batman & Robin AND A Beautiful Mind.

[drc5145]

...but TRANSFORMERS 2 hurt me...
http://www.joblo.com/arrow/reviews.php?id=1310

OUCHHHHHHHHHHHH!

This + Jenna Busch's Review are running this movie into the ground.

And Ebert's review has ultimately sealed the deal. And mind you, Ebert gave the 1st Transformers movie a 3 out of 4.

[drc5145]

To follow up on the racism talk by Reigh and other schmoes, Nick Schager, who I respect a lot wrote that this thing has "lots and lots of racism" and I've read the guy's work for years and he doesn't make those accusations lightly. Another reason not to support that hack.

Do have a link to where he says this?

[BakeTheMooCow]

Do have a link to where he says this?

I read it on his Twitter feed (http://twitter.com/nschager). His review should expand on it, hopefully.

[FireCaptain4]

This just seems to prove that the line drawn between entertaining crap and abysmal crap is very, very thin.

According Ebert and several other critics of the like: Transformers = entertaining crap, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen = abysmal poo.


...
..
.

I'm still seeing it, though I may go to cinematic hell for it.

[JohnLocke2342]

The first one was tolerable because I kinda gave a shit about the race-against-time to the allspark or whatever it was. We had to get it before the decepticons did... it kinda made the movie flow a bit.


Judging by the last 4 reviews I read (all of them 1 or 2 stars out of 5 or 10 starts) this movie is utter shit. It really turned me off too because I was hoping we'd get something a bit better then Wolverine or T4.

So guys, if this movie no doubt sucks like we all know it probably will (or at least be a MAJOR let down) do you consider this the most boner killing summer in recent memory?

[FireCaptain4]

So guys, if this movie no doubt sucks like we all know it probably will (or at least be a MAJOR let down) do you consider this the most boner killing summer in recent memory?

I'd have to check some schematics before I say "worst summer ever," but this summer is surely a lunge downward from last summer.

Despite Up, Drag Me to Hell, The Hangover, and Star Trek all rocking, most of the films that we hoped would be good have been huge disappointments (like you mentioned, T4 and Wolverine and Transformers). Most will probably add Land of the Lost and Year One to that list, as well.

Ah, well. At least we'll have an interesting Oscar season this year,

[MelkorTP]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:mad:

[ilovemovies]

I always suspected this would be bad.

I actually don't think this summer has been bad. I know I'm in the minority but I LOVED Terminator Salvation. Plus, Up was a truly magical moviegoing experience. Drag Me to Hell actually surprised me by being good. Star Trek was actually mildly disappointing to me in that it was merely just decent to me when I thought it would be great.

Yeah, sure Land of the Lost and Angels & Demons were big time clunkers but The Proposal was actually a major pleasant surprise. It's formulaic but also very funny. And I also really dug The Taking of Pelham 123.

My Sister's Keeper looks incredibly powerful to me, especially since my mom recently battled cancer herself.

Still haven't seen Away We Go but I hope to see it soon and it looks fantastic. The Hurt Locker is about to open and it's a very solid flick. July has some promising titles too. Public Enemies, Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince, Bruno, (500) Days of Summer, Funny People.

Not a bad summer at all if you ask me.

[ilovemovies]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:mad:

An infant schmoe who will very soon turn into a former schmoe if you continue on with posts like this.

[outsyder]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:mad:

RIGHT ON MAN!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2a/Transmorphers.jpg/200px-Transmorphers.jpg

Transmorphers = BEST MOVIE EVER!

[Natty]

Its always the same argument;

"Theres no plot, theres no good acting vs. Its MICHAEL BAY & FKING Robots + shit Blowing Up"

Wahh wAHH...

I'm sorry but people going into this movie expecting 'The Shawshank Redemption with robots' are fucking idiots, the plot of these Transformers films are shite, yes. But who cares? I'm going to see transformers for robot fights and kick ass action, and megan fox :D. People going for deep stoylines or character development are dilusional.

I'm getting sick of these 'snobs' constantly putting these films down, can we not have ONE FUCKING film that doesn't need brain power, CAN WE NOT HAVE A FUCKING GOOD TIME AT THE THEATRE!!?? Jesus fucking christ people, get a grip.


Man...I thought I set up my review so I didn't get this idiotic response. Yes, I am fully aware that Transformers 2 will not feature Oscar worthy acting or writing and yes, I know that it will not be as good as The Shawshank Redemption and yes, I judge/think of it as a summer blockbuster (Star Trek was good, this wasn't).

I am not a film 'snob', I just didn't like this movie because it wasn't very good. Just because a film does feature "robot fights and kick ass action", explain how that means I HAVE to like it, people are entitled to their opinions.

"CAN WE NOT HAVE A FUCKING GOOD TIME AT THE THEATRE!!??" - If I have to put up with racist characterizations and pretty stinky cheese, NO FUCKWIT! I CAN'T HAVE A GOOD TIME AT THE THEATRE! (Which has to be a good time worth £7.50 by the way)

Sorry, but my friends gave me the 'if you don't like Transformers you must be a pretentious snob' arguement when we left the theatre. I explained why I didn't like the film (as well as what I did like), accept it.

For reference: I gave the first film 7/10.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Damn, those reviews are harsh. I still got my ticket and Transformers t-shirt, so hopefully I'll be pleasantly surprised.

[FireCaptain4]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:

What do Transformers having sexual intercourse have to do with anything? Also, it's not "fucking each others," it's "fucking each other."

What do butterflies or ducks have to do with anything?

I don't hate everything Michael Bay makes. In fact, I love The Rock and the first Transformers film.

What the fuck is wrong with us? What the fuck is wrong with YOU, sir? We're allowed to have an opinion. Besides, not all of us are confirming that this is crap. I, for instance, haven't even seen the film yet-- I'm just being wary.

So, just to be clear, our alternatives to talking about Transformers 2 are A) killing ourselves, B) watching porn, or C) watching Powerpuff girls. Are all those choices not the same thing? :confused:

I think you're the first person to ever compare DaVinci to Michael Bay. Congratulations there.

It's not "u," it's "you."

On a final note, this isn't imdb, this is JoBlo. If you aren't banned by the time you read this, you will be soon. Name calling is not allowed. You've shown no respect, and you will receive none.

[MelkorTP]

What do Transformers having sexual intercourse have to do with anything? Also, it's not "fucking each others," it's "fucking each other."

What do butterflies or ducks have to do with anything?

I don't hate everything Michael Bay makes. In fact, I love The Rock and the first Transformers film.

What the fuck is wrong with us? What the fuck is wrong with YOU, sir? We're allowed to have an opinion. Besides, not all of us are confirming that this is crap. I, for instance, haven't even seen the film yet-- I'm just being wary.

So, just to be clear, our alternatives to talking about Transformers 2 are A) killing ourselves, B) watching porn, or C) watching Powerpuff girls. Are all those choices not the same thing? :confused:

I think you're the first person to ever compare DaVinci to Michael Bay. Congratulations there.

It's not "u," it's "you."

On a final note, this isn't imdb, this is JoBlo. If you aren't banned by the time you read this, you will be soon. Name calling is not allowed. You've shown no respect, and you will receive none.

"(for all those who said the movie is crap)"
...dude are "you" blind or just stupid ? :)))) and by the way, it was a rhetorical question, so don`t bother to answer :)))
...and you didn`t get my point of view...just took literaly everything I wrote and lost the idea...I feel sorry for you, u seem to be a lost cause :))))

[poopontheshoes7]

Damn...not gonna lie. These bad reviews are killing my excitement. Arrow just ripped it a new asshole.

I loved the first film to pieces but it seems like this comes off as a parody of the first. I hate letting bad word of mouth kill my buzz (I still dug Speed Racer last summer and Land of the Lost this summer) but I can't help but get a bad feeling about this one. I'm still going to the midnight screening, but I will definitely have low, low low expectations.

[FireCaptain4]

"(for all those who said the movie is crap)"
...dude are "you" blind or just stupid ? :)))) and by the way, it was a rhetorical question, so don`t bother to answer :)))
...and you didn`t get my point of view...just took literaly everything I wrote and lost the idea...I feel sorry for you, u seem to be a lost cause :))))

You're just adding more fuel to the fire. Moderators don't take kindly to your kind around these here parts. :rolleyes:

[JohnLocke2342]

Damn...not gonna lie. These bad reviews are killing my excitement. Arrow just ripped it a new asshole.

I loved the first film to pieces but it seems like this comes off as a parody of the first. I hate letting bad word of mouth kill my buzz (I still dug Speed Racer last summer and Land of the Lost this summer) but I can't help but get a bad feeling about this one. I'm still going to the midnight screening, but I will definitely have low, low low expectations.

Hey man, don't forget how everyone crucified Indy 4 to death and we kinda dug it... who knows how it will turn out until YOU yourself see it.

I was just kinda hoping for a somewhat noteworthy plot that could guide the characters from scene to scene. The first had that, and was somewhat enjoyable....

[FireCaptain4]

I loved the first film to pieces but it seems like this comes off as a parody of the first. I hate letting bad word of mouth kill my buzz (I still dug Speed Racer last summer and Land of the Lost this summer) but I can't help but get a bad feeling about this one. I'm still going to the midnight screening, but I will definitely have low, low low expectations.

I share your dismay, poops. I'm going in with low expectations also.

Then again, there was a lot of negative early buzz surrounding Kingdom of the Crystal Skull last year and I ended up loving it (though it took a second or third viewing before I fully appreciated it). Hopefully this'll at least be bearable.

[FireCaptain4]

Hey man, don't forget how everyone crucified Indy 4 to death and we kinda dug it... who knows how it will turn out until YOU yourself see it.

Touche!

[MelkorTP]

I share your dismay, poops. I'm going in with low expectations also.

Then again, there was a lot of negative early buzz surrounding Kingdom of the Crystal Skull last year and I ended up loving it (though it took a second or third viewing before I fully appreciated it). Hopefully this'll at least be bearable.

...and now look ! most ppl have changed their opinion about the movie, based on "your"(meaning those who talk without knowing what they are talking about) stupid opinions...have u even watched the movie? I have and it`s fucking awesome!

[poopontheshoes7]

Hey man, don't forget how everyone crucified Indy 4 to death and we kinda dug it... who knows how it will turn out until YOU yourself see it.

I was just kinda hoping for a somewhat noteworthy plot that could guide the characters from scene to scene. The first had that, and was somewhat enjoyable....

I share your dismay, poops. I'm going in with low expectations also.

Then again, there was a lot of negative early buzz surrounding Kingdom of the Crystal Skull last year and I ended up loving it (though it took a second or third viewing before I fully appreciated it). Hopefully this'll at least be bearable.

True. I love Crystal Skull as well. But that actually did pretty well with critics for the most part. Fans were split right down the middle.

I'm not worried about a muddled plot because the first one had that. I'm not worried about the abundance of Bayhem because I love Bayhem. I'm worried because admitted fans of Bay and the first film think Bay went overboard with this one. And if Bay fans think he went overboard...its a bad sign.

[echo_bravo]

To make matters worse, those voices of those "ghetto" robots are done by a white guy. :eek:

Believe me Transformer lovers, I am definitely NOT a film snob. I enjoy mindless crap films from time to time but there is no way in hell that I am going to see this pile of shit.
Everyone associated with this film should be ashamed of themselves for agreeing to do such garbage.


I will say that the reviews of this film have been amazing to read. Mostly all of them are completely ripping Bay apart. I love it.

[SpiralEye]

I have a question. When you 'turn off your brain at the door', how can you enjoy something? I hear ppl say that when it comes to movies like this. Does that mean you're setting yourself up to like it no matter what? Even if it's complete garbage? I've never 'turned my brain off' to watch a movie. Or do anything else.

So prepare to be disappointed in this movie, guys. It's baaaaad. So bad. I gave it a chance after not liking the first one much, and thought things could only improve. I was wrong.

Facepalming will be at an all-time high today, country-wide.

[FireCaptain4]

...and now look ! most ppl have changed their opinion about the movie, based on "your"(meaning those who talk without knowing what they are talking about) stupid opinions...have u even watched the movie? I have and it`s fucking awesome!

What? To my knowledge, nobody has ever changed their opinion about anything based on what I've said pertaining to a movie. How do I "not know what I'm talking about" when I haven't said anything that I don't have insight about?

[FireCaptain4]

I have a question. When you 'turn off your brain at the door', how can you enjoy something? I hear ppl say that when it comes to movies like this. Does that mean you're setting yourself up to like it no matter what? Even if it's complete garbage? I've never 'turned my brain off' to watch a movie. Or do anything else.

So prepare to be disappointed in this movie, guys. It's baaaaad. So bad. I gave it a chance after not liking the first one much, and thought things could only improve. I was wrong.

Facepalming will be at an all-time high today, country-wide.

Eh, it's just another way of saying "have some suspension of disbelief."

Even when I "turn my brain off," there's still only a certain amount of stupidity and trash my body will allow me to inflict upon myself. For instance, I would never allow myself to watch AvP ever again.

There's a line, and when it's crossed, it can be dangerous to your health and mentality.

[MelkorTP]

What? To my knowledge, nobody has ever changed their opinion about anything based on what I've said pertaining to a movie. How do I "not know what I'm talking about" when I haven't said anything that I don't have insight about?

...dude god damn it, I wasn`t talking about you, just misplaced it in quoting you (my bad for that :)))

[Digifruitella]

I'm extremely curious why a couple of weeks ago - according to Bay - Spielberg called it Bay's "best film"

read - http://www.aintitcool.com/node/41503

[Z_oasis]

All the reviews are true. Dont get mad and say "Its a transformers film, what do you expect?" Well, according to my knowledge who hated the first one, Everyone else liked it a lot (for some reason) but none the less liked it. Now the same people who loved it dont like the sequel cuz yes it does NOT have story or depth. Then people go its a transformers film, yet its a FILM so it actually does need story to fill up an hour and... wait... Over 2 and half hours!?!? Now i see the problem. If i wanted to see 3 hours of robots battling each other id go get BATTLEBOTS Season 1 on DVD. But seriously, i've seen the statements "Its a shit remake of the first" or "All eye candy, no depth" etc... Who can deal 3 hours of eye candy with nothing else to offer. Thats y i'm not interested in it, thats why its probably NOT gonna do as well as the first and i already wasted my mindless robot movie on TERMINATOR already. Sorry Bay (and Baymaniacs out there)

[SpiralEye]

I'm all for 'suspension of disbelief' in movies. It's a requirement for virtually every piece of fiction ever written. But to suspend it so far that your brain needs to be 'off' to accept it...that can't be good in any given situation.

And i love action movies, don't get me wrong. But I've never enjoyed one that made me 'turn off'.

It seems to me that most contemporary action movies seem so low-rent, but with huge special effects (T4, Wolverine). Both of those looked like Sci-Fi original movies, but with A-list actors and lots of expensive cgi.

And it's all in the approach. I think studios used to approach projects plot-first, but that is now not the case. Now it's action-first. And cgi makes for lazy scripting.

P.S. What the hell is wrong with that MelkorTP guy? Good lord, it made my heart sad to read his posts. Very sad.

[JohnLocke2342]

I too, never understood the "turn the brain off" shit some people talk about with movies like this. I don't know how to turn my brain off, and I never will. I go to the movies to be entertained.. watching horrible dialogue, awful acting, a ridiculous storyline that makes you cringe and literally get embarrassed for everyone involved doesn't entertain me. And no, turning "my brain off" during that which literally means "just accept how awful it is and enjoy the action scenes" doesn't work for me, and for most people. I'm sorry but I'll never, ever do it. No action scenes will ever be THAT FUCKING GOOD that I'll literally ignore everything else in the movie that is so bad and sit through it bored just to see those few scenes.

[SpiralEye]

BTW, I give it 5 days before the NAACP (amongst others) are so far up Paramount's ass that Michael Bay himself will be directing Malcolm X2: The Return by the end of the year. Skids and Mudflap are THAT BAD. And it's hard to offend me. Michael Bay should be ashamed. The backlash from this will be HUGE.

And to JohnLocke: Amen to that, brother.

[Servo]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:mad:

I don't understand why Michael Bay feels the need to come to the Schmoes forum to defend his movie, doesn't he have his own forum?

Anyway, I'm having a really shitty day today and it's only 12:30. The two things I needed to go right today in order for me to a) have a job and b) feed myself for the rest of the week both fell through within an hour this morning. This was supposed to be a good day because of the two previous factors AND because I get to see a free screening of Transformers 2 at the ArcLight in Hollywood tonight. Now after all the reviews I've read I'm wondering if I should spare myself any further disappointment. I knew some of the higher-up critics wouldn't like it because it seemed like they didn't like the last one (which I saw in theaters 3 times - loved it), but reading Jenna Busch's review, Arrow's review, and Ebert's review....fuck, if one more shitty thing happens today I might go punch Perez Hilton in the head.

Oh wait I was gonna go do that anyway.

[Philanidas]

I guess I'm seeing the Proposal this weekend :cool:

Oh and Melkor, CyclicNightmare is watching you, and be warned i even heard he has eyes on his hands like the pale man.

[Burnsy1101]

Ok i just want to say i did like the film the only thing i was looking for is more fight scenes and thats exactly what i got.

However it is FULL of inapropriot humor that really really should not have been in a film that is partly aimed at a younger audience. Im anicipating a media storm once this thing crosses the pond to be honest.

[FireCaptain4]

To those that have seen it: Is the climax bigger and/or longer than the climax of the original?

[Burnsy1101]

^^^^^^
Yes to both.

[Natty]

Yes I'm pretty sure it is. Mucho special effects and 'kick-ass robot action' right there. (Even though its not that good, I'm thinking the film is bound to win the special effects Oscar this time).

[legato]

After the opening thirty minutes or so it drops most pretenses of plot, what it holds on to is what kills it, and just becomes a series of explosions. The movie may actually be better if you turn the volume down and just play some AC/DC to the visuals.

[randomhero24]

A female writer giving Transformers 2 a 2/10.

I did NOT see that coming.

After this websites piss-poor review of T4, i don't disagree that this movie will be bad, (A Michael Bay sequel? Hello? BB2?) , but the reviews this site churns out are so off the mark.

Tell me, Jenna, would you have preferred the film be entirely set at a college campus with human robots?

Just say you wish this film was never made.

[wtf?!?]

...what the hell u expect from Transformers movies ??? (for all those who said the movie is crap)...u want giant robots fucking each others? closeup moments with butterflies and ducks?...it`s way easier to criticize something, then to make something...even if you all TF haters thought together to make a movie like this, u would be still stuck at the name of the movie...every time Michael Bay makes one, u all say is crap crap crap...what the fuck is wrong with you? go shoot yourself or go watch porn and power puff girls if u don`t like this type of movies and can`t appreciate one`s work and dedication...it`s like saying daVinci`s draws are total crap( I bet in his draws u wanted butterflies and ducks to be)...jeeez...u keep whining like a bunch of bitches.:mad:

so, it is your argument that it is impossible for Transformers to ever be a bad movie simply because it is about Transformers, and only serious subject matters can be executed poorly. that is the most asinine argument I've ever heard, and it is the only thing your post can mean. if not, your criticism of others is meaningless because they could be right, that it is bad, and you are criticizing them for it. please explain, if you can. it's actually a rhetorical comment, because I know you can't.

[sbunn10]

A female writer giving Transformers 2 a 2/10.

I did NOT see that coming.

After this websites piss-poor review of T4, i don't disagree that this movie will be bad, (A Michael Bay sequel? Hello? BB2?) , but the reviews this site churns out are so off the mark.

Tell me, Jenna, would you have preferred the film be entirely set at a college campus with human robots?

Just say you wish this film was never made.

:rolleyes:

you might want to check out the rules/guidelines
http://www.joblo.com/forums/announcement.php?f=16

a few others in this thread might benefit from a gander as well

[dellamorte dellamore]

I'd rather watch this than Hangover

How come a comedy gets a pass when it utilizes tired and possibly offensive cliches , but there's an uproar if a popular action / sci fi director uses them . At least these are cgi creations and not real live people

Just watch the film and make up your own mind instead of letting critics make it up for you

The only way this film could blow is if there wasn't enough robot on robot action , not too much

[ElderPredator]

I'm still psyched to see the movie as I loved the first one way too much despite its small flaws.

I was just thinking to myself though....wouldn't it be hilarious if G.I. JOE turns out to be more loved than TF2?

[jgt24]

anyone who has actually seen the movie and didn't think it was complete crap (besides the special effects) post on here. I'm starting to get worried... At first I thought people were just hating on Bay... but now it's more than that. I want balls the walls action but I also want a little more than that. IS IT REALLY THAT BAD???

[Tweek]

A female writer giving Transformers 2 a 2/10.

I did NOT see that coming.

After this websites piss-poor review of T4, i don't disagree that this movie will be bad, (A Michael Bay sequel? Hello? BB2?) , but the reviews this site churns out are so off the mark.

Tell me, Jenna, would you have preferred the film be entirely set at a college campus with human robots?

Just say you wish this film was never made.

So...You haven't seen it but you're insulting someone who has and can give it a legitimate review?

Sorry, but this sort of post is uncalled for:


1) You do not disrespect, insult or put down your fellow movie fan on our board. Civil debates only.

http://www.joblo.com/forums/announcement.php?f=16

[SkyNet]

seeing this in 3 hours!!

I will come back and give my thoughts... but for me, keep in mind:

Michael Bay is unapologetically one of my favorite directors (he may make mindless action, but he is the master at it)

and Transformers is one flick i could watch over and over and over again!

i been around here long enough, im sure most of you know my views!

but i must say, the overwhelming number of negative reviews i have seen, and i mean NEGATIVE reviews, not reviews like "5/10... all action blah blah blah" but terrible reviews, have given me some reserve... BUT..

a sign of faith i have is this movie was written by Ehren Krueger who wrote my all time favorite flick (Arlington Road) and also written by Orci and Kurtzman, who wrote the new Star Trek, Alias, Lost, Transformers... so i got alot of faith in this flick!

[FireCaptain4]

I'm not going to be able to catch it tonight like I want to because I have a filthy exam I'm studying for. However, I do intend to see it tomorrow. Hopefully thoughts on the movie will be more varied... and positive by then.

[drc5145]

A female writer giving Transformers 2 a 2/10.

I did NOT see that coming.

After this websites piss-poor review of T4, i don't disagree that this movie will be bad, (A Michael Bay sequel? Hello? BB2?) , but the reviews this site churns out are so off the mark.

Tell me, Jenna, would you have preferred the film be entirely set at a college campus with human robots?

Just say you wish this film was never made.

sexism much?

[Abbie Normal]

So...You haven't seen it but you're insulting someone who has and can give it a legitimate review?

You know this is not just some random poster. I would love to know who had the balls to say something. Balls so small he had to come up with a new name and post that crap.

A female writer giving Transformers 2 a 2/10.

I did NOT see that coming.

After this websites piss-poor review of T4, i don't disagree that this movie will be bad, (A Michael Bay sequel? Hello? BB2?) , but the reviews this site churns out are so off the mark.

Tell me, Jenna, would you have preferred the film be entirely set at a college campus with human robots?

Just say you wish this film was never made.

Next time try an intelligent argument. You might want to see the film first and then type out some hate. I read her review as well, but I am waiting until I see the movie to see if I need to comment or not.

2/10 That is really low. The only other scores that low this year are: Ghosts of Girlfriends Past, The House Bunny and Over Her Dead Body.

[Bahs]

Same here, apart from Megan Fox, lol. Too long, really boring, and definitely incoherent. It goes wrong in all the ways that the first film went right. I don't want to ruin anything, but there are several moments that were just absolutely terrible. The college scenes are really bad attempts at humour as are the two jive-talkin robots, and the old British robot. Yes there's lots of action, but the explosion porn goes so far that it becomes impossible to tell what's actually going on! I loved the first movie, wonderfully dumb, brainless fun. This one just plain sucked. My least favourite blockbuster of the summer so far, which is saying a lot!

oh shit... seeing this tonight at midnight. just hope my expectations were not too high.

and yes i did like the first because i could just turn off my brain for awhile and drool over explosions and megan fox

[sbunn10]

I don't think it's a regular schmoe necessarily. The guy probably saw the review and felt compelled to blow off steam about how people didn't like the movie he's determined to love.

I'm going to see it, still. I hope low expectations will cause it to be an enjoyable trip.

[razgriz21]

True. I love Crystal Skull as well. But that actually did pretty well with critics for the most part. Fans were split right down the middle.

I'm not worried about a muddled plot because the first one had that. I'm not worried about the abundance of Bayhem because I love Bayhem. I'm worried because admitted fans of Bay and the first film think Bay went overboard with this one. And if Bay fans think he went overboard...its a bad sign.

I'm with you.

Ready for 11:30AM Wednesday morning though.

I'm sure there are worse movies.

[DeejayForte]

so, it is your argument that it is impossible for Transformers to ever be a bad movie simply because it is about Transformers, and only serious subject matters can be executed poorly. that is the most asinine argument I've ever heard, and it is the only thing your post can mean. if not, your criticism of others is meaningless because they could be right, that it is bad, and you are criticizing them for it. please explain, if you can. it's actually a rhetorical comment, because I know you can't.


I like to think I'm one of the most active posters on the Strike backs, Something I fail to be on the forums itself and not to sound sexist - but I have to agree with you here. Whoops.

[APzombie]

Saw a screening two days ago. I actually left (apparently) 15 minutes before it ended.

This film is a monumental disaster... Ok. I'll admit i didn't like Transformers in the least bit but this makes me want to change that two star review into a three star review just to distinguish how fucking obnoxious this sequel is.

I left early because i could not take it. Not in a Irreversible/Salo way, i could not take the stupidity of everything, from Megan Fox's abortion of a performance to the racist illiterate gangster robots to the inane plot that doesn't make the least fucking amount of sense. I don't mean that in a "well you have to see it more than once to get it" or "there is just too much going on to care", i mean 'these people have absolutely no idea what the fuck their own story and characters are running around for in the first place'.

This is the cinematic equivalent to those reality tv contest shows where they take a popular tramp contestant from a previous season and make her the grand prize in the new season. It's trashy, obnoxious, loud and stupid.

For everything that goes on in it, it's also boring as sin, i had an easier time watching Terence Davis' recite poetry from Liverpool in Of Time and the City at three in the morning after not sleeping for twenty-four hours. It's watching paint dry, only the paint is dripping inside your eyeballs.

0/10

[FLAME_ON]

My expectations are high and I'm leaving them that way.

[Philanidas]

So do you guys think this movie will fall into a sinking hole at the box office after the first week?

[Danger^Cart]

The review on the front page made about as much sense as the movie apparentely does. Really poorly written.

I'll take the frustrated, inane babbling of the review as a sign of just how horrible this movie is.

[SkyNet]

well... as i expected.. i fucking LOVE this flick!

Ok, so every bad review i have read generally has the phrase "Granted, i didnt like the first one"... now if you are a professional reviewer, that is a legit gripe... but if you are just your average person... why the fuck did you see the second???

but back to the flick:

y god, the action is fucking epic... and the story, i cant believe people are saying there is no semblance of a plot... the plot is there, right in front of your eyes, obviously the plot leads to killer kick ass explosions and action, but the plot is there!

But people.. i must stress... see this fucking thing in IMAX if possible.. thats how i saw it, and my god, the shots that were shot specifically with the imax cameras... just fucking amazing and so bad ass! To a normal viewer, i could see how the cuts between imax and regular screen, may get annoying, but my god, when the imax shots came on, just amazing.. that fight in the forrest, in imax... fucking pristine!

Again, the score for the film is the real stand out, Steve Jablonsky kicks ass with it yet again, i had bought the cd earlier today, but hearing it in the flick, it just all works (but that is to be expected from M. Bay flicks, he always has some of the best scores)

this flick is balls out action, the plot is there, i dont know what can be said for those that couldnt discern the plot, i mean, it aint shakespeare, the plot is a catalyst for the sweet ass action, not the plot being the main focus of the flick.,.. which for some is a huge detractor, but when it comes to Transformers, all i need is the story that is there, and the visuals that are provided... Bay provides that in spades!

Also.. anyone who is complaining about "Racism" when it comes to the 2 robots... are you fucking serious?!?! C'mon people, comic relief, i was laughing at most the shit they said... maybe if you are Oprah Winfrey or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, then you may claim Racism, but to the average american with any semblance of common sense, it was just some comic relief in the flick.

so.. see it in IMAX if possible, but if not, go see it anyway... it is a fucking epic action flick!

(and as a disclaimer, these are my views, and my views alone, feel free to disagree, but there is never a need to attack)

[daddiefatsacks]

it was just fucking silly....too much goofy stuff going on (i know the first had a few goofball scenes)

the two jive robots were dumb, and really offensive, and whats worse is they got a white dude to do the voices.

but the action is pretty crazy, there are some amazing shots, and definately enjoyed the action in this one more than the first one.

6/10

the shit i would eat out of megan fox's ass. wow

[Mr.HyDe807]

Ugh, what a fucking disappointment. I'll write a full review tomorrow, but man, this movie was terrible.

4/10

[Servo]

Okay, I was really bummed after reading all the reviews today before going in an seeing this tonight. I was expecting a shit-storm of Batman & Robin and Spiderman 3 proportions. And I was wrong.

Okay, it's not the best movie in the world. The story is weak, the acting is meh the dialogue is kiddish and some of the action scenes could've been trimmed...but I can say the exact same thing about the first Transformers, and I had a damn good time with that one. I liked this movie. I'd give it a 6/10. The flaws just didn't bother me. It isn't racist in the slightest.

The action was great, the effects were brilliant and damn can Bay blow some shit up. I loved the score as much as the previous installment. I can honestly say I enjoyed this movie on an Army of Darkness type level. Army of Darkness has way noticeable flaws, but I like the humor, I like the lead and I like the action. And that's how I feel about this movie. It really isn't much different from the first one, except more action. The only thing I was bummed about was the absence of some of the original Autobots from the first movie, Ratchett has like maybe two scenes, Ironhide maybe has three and more dialogue than Ratchett. The story was more focused than the last movie, but it was still a weak story.

The awesome action scenes and great effects and humor made up for the fact that Meghan Fox's pants weren't dirty and her lip-gloss wasn't smudged (which I know got Jenna incredibly riled up). I really don't get the fuss over Mudflap and Skids. Everyone who was in the theater with me laughed. White, Black, Brown, they all laughed at their jokes. You can't really compare them to the atrocity that was Jar-Jar Binks, because Jar-Jar was a focal character who was given a small portion of the weight of the film's story. Mudflap and Skids' antics were incredibly brief and in the background and it was effective (at least with the audience I was with). You may not like that kind of humor, but hey, to each his own. I guess I'm just immature like that.

Bottom line, it was enjoyable. Not Star Trek enjoyable, but I still had more fun at this film than Wolverine or Terminator: Salvation. I'm not gonna tell you to leave your brain at the door, and I'm not going to insist that you compromise what you find to be the perfect standard of a summer blockbuster ("it's a Michael Bay flick, what're you expecting?!") all I'm going to say is this: If you found the first Transformers enjoyable I would find it mind-boggling that you didn't find this one just as enjoyable. If you hated or disliked the first Transformers then, by all means, go see Star Trek or Up again because it won't be redeemed.

That is all. 6/10

[JohnLocke2342]

I had a good time with it.


And yes, those 2 robots were obnoxious and illiterate and very fucking racist. Hell, there was a shot of an arab man with crooked teeth working in a meat shop just to get his teeth straightened. There was a heavy amount of racism in the movie, a surprising, shocking amount. But it didn't take itself seriously, so I didn't.

There's nothing I can say to change anyone's opinions and that's not what I'm going for. I can't believe I saw a 0/10 review and a 2/10 review of this flick but fuck, I guess it's not for everyone.

Now juding from some of the most ridiculous reviews I've ever seen, this movie was worse then worse. I mean worse then Batman and Robin and Leprechaun in the Hood bad. I went in with absurdly, obnoxiously low expectations and laughed quite a bit, groaned quite a few times as well, but got goosebumps in half of the action scenes and almost every moment Optimus Prime suited up or took on 3 Decepticons at once.

6.5/10



Side Note: I saw it in New Brunswick, NJ and it sold out all 6 midnight showings in 6 theaters that house 320 people at 9:48PM. The entire theater I saw it with laughed, groaned, cheered, and eventually went ape shit at everything an Autobot did.


Side Note of a Side Note: Jenna Busch's review does not do this film justice at all. Now, I dig her reviews A LOT. Her review of The Proposal was spot on, but this one was just flat. No offense to her, I'm not trying to get banned or put her down I'm just pointing some things out. Sam's mom does not attack someone or flip out, she's an insanely hyper person and the weed mellows her a bit... she tries to catch a frisbee and runs into a dude. And Sam reappearing with a bandage? He burned his hand badly coming out of the teleportation and a scene clearly shows that.. then Megan Fox wraps his hand with her white t-shirt she is now no longer wearing. I understand you hated the film to the point where you stopped paying attention but hating it, then ignoring it and reviewing it just doesn't work. And blowing her off? He didn't blow her off... he went to a party, said he was gonna leave early but then went batshit crazy after the all-spark fucked with his mind. It side-tracked him lol... come on! If you're gonna go to a Michael Bay flick trying to spot when someone's pants aren't dirty after an action scene then why are you even there? I just felt like it was an awfully biased review based on how much she hated it, so she then nit-picked over everything. But hey, everyone has their own opinions, so I'm just pointing out mine!

I'm not being sexist, or hating on Jenna, or being crude, or attacking her. So please don't come and report me or something. I just thought I'd point out some things she kinda messed up a bit.

[BankaiZaraki]

Im just going to go for the good/bad parts here



Good:
-Optimus Prime is THE MACHINE!
-Megan Fox had my dick hard all throughout the movie lol
-Battle scenes were effing EPIC!
-CGI was great..




Bad:
-Too long
-Plot devices made no sense
-And if Michael Bay doesnt come back to do the 3rd one, I'll shoot myself lol

[poopontheshoes7]

***SPOILERS*****


Bottom line: All the hate is overblown in my eyes. This film did nothing that the first film didn't do as far as humor and plot goes. While the plot is thin, there is still more going on then in the first one.
-Shia was still charming and entertaining.
-Megan Fox did what she could and didn't feel embarrassing. I honestly don't get why people think she is so beyond terrible.
-Sams parents are hilarious.
-Megatron and Starscream have much more screentime.
-The Decepticons actually feel somewhat threatening.
-Prime kicked all kinds of ass.
-Bumblebee kicked all kinds of ass
-Jetfire was the shit
-Leo was a way better computer hacker/sidekick then Anthony Anderson
-The action is beyond epic
-The finale is mind blowing

Negatives? Of course. Some of the humor didn't work and some of the dialogue was just TOO corny. The twins are a bit embarrassing but not nearly the movie destroying characters people are making them out to be. They're hardly in the flick really. I didn't like how Prime dropped out of the film for so long but his resurrection was worth it.

7.5/10 I didn't love it as much as the first but it is still one hell of a blast. Bay boggles my mind. Everything is so big, so load, so over the top I can't help but admire him.

[BankaiZaraki]

Side Note of a Side Note: Jenna Busch's review does not do this film justice at all. Now, I dig her reviews A LOT. Her review of The Proposal was spot on, but this one was just flat. No offense to her, I'm not trying to get banned or put her down I'm just pointing some things out. Sam's mom does not attack someone or flip out, she's an insanely hyper person and the weed mellows her a bit... she tries to catch a frisbee and runs into a dude. And Sam reappearing with a bandage? He burned his hand badly coming out of the teleportation and a scene clearly shows that.. then Megan Fox wraps his hand with her white t-shirt she is now no longer wearing. I understand you hated the film to the point where you stopped paying attention but hating it, then ignoring it and reviewing it just doesn't work. And blowing her off? He didn't blow her off... he went to a party, said he was gonna leave early but then went batshit crazy after the all-spark fucked with his mind. It side-tracked him lol... come on! If you're gonna go to a Michael Bay flick trying to spot when someone's pants aren't dirty after an action scene then why are you even there? I just felt like it was an awfully biased review based on how much she hated it, so she then nit-picked over everything. But hey, everyone has their own opinions, so I'm just pointing out mine!

I'm not being sexist, or hating on Jenna, or being crude, or attacking her. So please don't come and report me or something. I just thought I'd point out some things she kinda messed up a bit.




I agree with pretty much what you just said..

[Mr.HyDe807]

I don't get why those idiotic cars were in there the first place. I came to see the autobots from the first one, not these annoying jive talking pieces of junk that I was praying to be blown up by the end of the movie.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Also.. anyone who is complaining about "Racism" when it comes to the 2 robots... are you fucking serious?!?! C'mon people, comic relief, i was laughing at most the shit they said... maybe if you are Oprah Winfrey or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton, then you may claim Racism, but to the average american with any semblance of common sense, it was just some comic relief in the flick.

Dude, what?

[anakinsrise]

Ebert Quote:
"Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" is a horrible experience of unbearable length, briefly punctuated by three or four amusing moments. One of these involves a dog-like robot humping the leg of the heroine. Such are the meager joys. If you want to save yourself the ticket price, go into the kitchen, cue up a male choir singing the music of hell, and get a kid to start banging pots and pans together. Then close your eyes and use your imagination.

[Bahs]

just got back from the theater an hour or so ago(midnight showing).

first off--i am reminded why i go to the theater in the middle of the day when it is less crowded. lots of stupid-ass preteens that dont shut up and try to crack the funniest jokes between trailers.

that aside, the film started ok-effects/action are good. some of the movies humor was decent but dear god, it was a bad movie. Transformers 1 was pretty good and ill still watch it from time to time, but the action and CGI get so over-the-top, especially near the end in the desert, the movie starts losing it's point.
i wouldnt be so mad if the movie set out to be a pointless action flick, but this movie wants to be everything. it wants to be funny(which the audience laughed, but i didnt at most parts). It wants to have romance, which is rushed and watered down. It wants to have a plot/theme, but the off the wall action covers it all up.
sure, i LOVE movies with hot babes and bad ass action but i found myself actually getting tired of it near the end, they just make an explosion to--well to blow something up because its cool. they have overlong scenes between robots i dont really care about just because they can.

basically it sums up to "Hey! Look what we can do with a big budget!"

[The Postmaster General]

Also.. anyone who is complaining about "Racism" when it comes to the 2 robots... are you fucking serious?!?! C'mon people, comic relief, i was laughing at most the shit they said... maybe if you are Oprah Winfrey or Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton...


or 50 Cent or LeBron James or Condoleezza Rice or that lady on the syrup bottle or Dave Matthews' band

[PiE]

or 50 Cent or LeBron James or Condoleezza Rice or that lady on the syrup bottle or Dave Matthews' band

have to say this movie was real bad, although i wasnt board during the movie, i just kept thinking how stupid and unexcitting it was, i took my 9 year old son to see this movie in the uk, and during the movie when bumbalbee cried he said dad thats stupid. he aslo said to me that the green autobot was this movies jar jar..

now i know this film was made for kids, but even my 9 year son reckons it was crap, .. i enjoyed race to witch mountin more then this rubbish..


explosions and non stop action does not make the kids go wow! ...

but my son loves halo 3 and gears of war 2, so maybe kids today understand when they are targeted for crap movies ... i didnt mind first transformers, but this sequel is real bad and makes no sense.

this was definatly made as action, blow up stuff, make kids go coooool!.. really bad movie, watch up or even terminator salvation was more fun

[robby_d]

Okay I saw this movie last night and how I do agree with a lot that has been said here, I did not think it was that bad.

The movie starts immediatley with in your face action and this time around I do think it was better done than in the first movie. The action, especially robot on robot action is a bit slowed down in the movie, which makes it better to follow. The action really looks great, however at some points a bit overdone. But hey, it's a michael bay movie.

There is comic relief in the movie and the funniest moments are with Sam and his parents. The movie did entertain me and I was never bored, so the 2hours 20 minutes went a long fine.
The plot is a bit thin... the first movie wasn't exactly oscar material also, but it had a better strory.
The human characters are under used and the new characters are not well developed. So that could have been better.
At some points the movie isn't coherent, but I guess thats because the script wasn't very well developped either.

The 2 "racist" characters were enoying and it did remind me of Jar Jar. However I did not find them to be really racist, just dumb and stupid characters. They could've easily been "white" characters. So I think the whole racist thing is a bit far stretched.

Is the movie bad? To me it's not bad. I enjoyed it, but it did not give me the feeling from the first one. After the first one, I immediatley wanted to go again. Last night I did not have that feeling.

All I have to say is, go in with a clear mind and enjoy the ride. The movie definetley could've been mucht better, but so could've Terminator Salvation, Wolverine, ...

Star Trek was the better summer movie so far.

[RoVert]

The review on this site is remarkably biased. I don't post period on this site but that review warranted me digging out this account to say my opinion on it. Yes there will be spoilers in this post to counter-act said review from this site. Just warning you ahead of time....


A member a few pages back said most of what I agree with. Just because you weren't paying attention is no excuse to score this film so poorly. A 2/10... seriously? My biggest gripe was the nit-picking on the pyramid itself. The temple was there because the ancient primes built it before knowing life was on Earth. They even stated that in the film and how their rule was no sucking the planet dry of energon if there was life on it, except the one they labeled as "The Fallen", the back-stabbing brother who tried to turn the machine on. Then the war broke out, the remaining ancient Primes sacrificed themselves to hide the matrix from the Fallen. Optimus doesn't look like them because one he isn't an Ancient Prime and as old as they all are/were; he's just the last of a very long line of Primes. Two, he's no longer in his typical protoform mode anymore anyways. His appearance changed once he scanned the semitruck and got his alt-mode. Is that difficult to comprehend? That's a legit question, not a smartass rhetorical one either. I'm seriously asking for people nit-picking the script and finding plot-holes when they really aren't there because I'm just baffled at how here and at another site I frequent more to post on seem to be having the same argument when I had little to no difficulties understanding the film. I don't like to turn my brain off either, but I also can just sit back and enjoy a summer blockbuster for what it is... a film with tons of action, a ton of comedy and an overall decent plot if you pay attention and not nit-pick just to nit-pick. If this generation had the same mentality as we did when Star Wars came out, there wouldn't be a Star Wars saga period because we would have ripped that film apart! Why do people feel it necessary to do so now? What the hell happened when people just went to see a movie to enjoy it without coming out expecting like they are owed something out of it.

Don't get me wrong, I had my gripes about it too. The Twins for the most part were funny to listen to when they were insulting Sam's roommate, but they annoyed me when they fought each other at the temple and even more annoyed how they were the only two to actually take on Devastator. Kind of felt Devastator got mistreated the way he was barely used, especially since he technically didn't do any damage to any Autobots. I loved how there was way more focus on Optimus and Bumblebee to get them over as badasses but was utterly disappointed little to no focus went to any of the remainder Autobots, especially veterans Ironhide and Rachet. I had a few more gripes about the film but you know... no film is ever perfect. You either accept it for what it is, learn to appreciate it or you sign online and whine about it I guess with little to nothing you can do about it.

Edit: Is this ban worthy material having a differing opinion from a contributor on this site? I'm acting civil, so whatever. Peace out. See me on Neoseeker as TLA if I'm banned! Later Schmoes!

[snoopmish]

7.5/10 I didn't love it as much as the first but it is still one hell of a blast. Bay boggles my mind. Everything is so big, so load, so over the top I can't help but admire him.


Well poop..you've given me some hope on this. The reviews have been so bad I was thinking I may just skip this all together. I'll probably hit an afternoon showing so I don't have to pay full price.

I am one of the few that really enjoyed T4 so if this is at least enjoyable for the action....than maybe I may like this too.

On a side note....being a female myself, I was surprised to see that Jenna reviewed the film. From the reviews of hers I have read...it didn't seem like something she would like anyway. She seems more like a romcom girl....so I may actually like TF2 since I tend to go the other way from the usual female viewers and love stuff most females hate..lol.

Now the fact that Arrow hated it....that has me worried because I usually agree with him.:(

[echo_bravo]

Folks, this movie was so bad it will cause riots.

Fuckin disgraceful.

3/10

[razgriz21]

Well, IGN (http://movies.ign.com/articles/996/996999p1.html) gave it a mixed review and Film Brain (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/articles/fb/8678-transformers2) gave it an OK review.

The plot seems to be the main suspect.

[kobe8byrant]

The good:
- The destruction in China
- Jungle fight
- Egypt

The bad:
- Most scenes were recycled from the first:- the Egypt highlights, for most of it, it was seen in the first against Scorps desert.
- Slow mo didn't work; apart when Mikaela was running.
- Not content with ONE 360 shot, Bay gives you TWO and THREE.
- Not content with one scene of foreign objects crashing from space ONCE meteor style, Bay gives you TWO and THREE.
- Not content with ONE annoying robot, Bay presents you TWO, THREE, FOUR and they come in pairs this time!
- Not content with ONE Mikaela and Sam I love you scene, Bay gives you FOUR!
- Not content with ONE slow-mo scene, Bay gives you FOUR to FIVE
- Oh in Part 1, Sam runs taking a cube to put it into Prime's chest. Part 2, he takes some magic powder. It's so awesome! I didn't see it coming. How exciting.


- Bay doesn't attempt to insult your intelligence ONCE, he does it TWICE and THRICE:
1)Oh, of course black robots not being able to read is funny
2)Oh and a humping dog is meant to draw laughs
3)Oh and annoying sidekick crying one second getting tasered in the car and walking out the next to risk his life is completely understandable
4)Oh mom balling her eyes seeing her son leave for college and asking Dad to let go of him so he can face imminent death is very logical

Transformers 1 was awesome. I loved it - thought it was one of Bay's best work in a long time. It wasn't logical - it asks of you to turn off your thinking cap but it was good mind numbing fun. This was excruciatingly painful. This took everything that was good about the first and either recycled it, made it bigger by 10 times or repeated it for 2 and a half hours. Even the ending with the Linkin Park song is recycled.

God save us from a third!

2.5/5

[Mr.HyDe807]

Well, the big Michael bay blockbuster has finally arrived, and I gotta say that i was excited to check it out. It wasn't my most anticipated movies of the summer (that is for Public Enemies and Inglorious Basterds), but I was definitely excited for this. The first one was just a great summer blockbuster ride, and I was hoping that this one would be just as good, if not better. Unfortunately, while the first one balanced the humor and action pretty well, this one just seems bloated with unnecessary scenes, Autobots that we enjoyed in the first one taking a backseat, and a anti-climatic final battle that was pretty difficult to distinguish who the hell was fighting in the first place.

The plot follows Shia Lebouf's character Sam, who is now off to college and wants to live a normal life without his Autobot friends making everything complicated. His love life with Meghan Fox's Mikaeli is reaching towards saying "The L word", but neither want to say it. All the while, the Autobots are working with the US military to fight the deceptions, who are coming back for retaliation with the help of the huge Constructicons. So, as Sam is getting ready for college life, he finds a piece of the allspark from the first one, which causes him to go crazy and draw weird symbols that may link to when the Transformers were first on this planet. So, when the Decepticons realize Sam has this information that may give them the chance to the destruction of the world, they go on the hunt of him.

So, its your standard plot for the Transformers, pretty much like the first one. However, while the plot of the first one flowed pretty good without being overwhelming and unbearable, this one has enough unfunny and unnecessary scenes that just make you think why some of this crap could have been trimmed. Most of the humor was downplayed in the first one, but this one just seems like its trying too hard to make me laugh. Don't overwhelm me with the laughs, spread them out to complement the movie and tone it the hell down. I get it, dogs are fucking humping, no need to show to me it again, as if to say "Hey! Dogs are humping! You see it the first time? Well, just wanted to make sure so you can laugh!"

Now, what about the transformers, because that's what we wanted to see right? Well, the first half of the movie was definitely enjoyable, despite a certain action scene with the decepticon Ravage cut short when it seem to get good, and the added relationship with Megatron and Starscream that was just touched upon in the first one was definitely cool. However, once the forest action scene ios done, we are forced to deal with just the human characters and a pretty boring middle half. Hell, I had my hands on my head, my brother was passing out in his seat, and my cousin and I were whispering "Umm, can we have some robots please?

"But pat! There was Jetfire!"

Yeah, but a transformer giving a drawn out exposition that could have been summed up quicker than what he was saying wasn't what I had in mind. Just intersperse a good chase scene with the remaining autobots or something, not just sticking with Shia and company.

Oh, and why do these 2 annoying little shits known as Mudflap and Skid.....mark(?) get more screen time than the other autobots? We have enough autobots, and the situational humor involving them in the first one was enjoyable enough. Now we have these two rejects acting like the idiotic gangsta transformers, and I'm just wishing Megatron just steps on one of these little shits.

In terms of the final climatic battle, a bunch of stuff blows up, but I couldn't tell who was winning. Did a autobot or Decepticon just get destroyed, what the hell is going on? The first climatic battle didn't have this problem as you knew who was what, but this one they all looked the same. Add to the fact that the climax was pretty ridiculous, even for a movie with giant talking robots, and you got a pretty anti-climatic ending.

So, there you go, Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen was essentially taking the things in the first one, and blowing them up to extremes that didn't need to go that far. The humor in this was very hit and miss, some characters were flat out annoying, the middle half was almost a chore to sit through, and the action, while good at points, was pretty much a mess at the end. There was some cool interactions with the Transformers, but it wasn't enough to keep this movie from annoying me to no end. Hey Bay, just because you put things on a bigger scale, that doesn't mean it will improve on all the aspects of the previous one.

4/10

Bring on Public Enemies, hopefully that will wash out the bad movie taste from my mouth.

[Burnsy1101]

So do you guys think this movie will fall into a sinking hole at the box office after the first week?

I still think it'll still make mega bucks just for the spectacleof it. Just look at the Matrix reloaded that still made more then the original. It'll be interesting to see if will affect the third one though.

But as far as i know all of then normal cinima goers(the ones that i know) that have seen it think its good. Plus it did get quite a few gasps and laughs.

It would be interesting to see if the legs of the film are affected by the word of mouth though. to see if all our talk has any affect.

[sbunn10]

What the fuck is wrong with everbody, pissing on Jenna's review? She seems like a good choice to review it, as she's a self-declared "geek", hosts the geek stuff segment of the joblo movie show, and has pretty similar taste to all of the other guys on Joblo. Give it a break... she hated the movie... is thats so fucking wrong? Good Lord. You can disagree with her if you like, but so far, most of the reviews on here have agreed with her.

[t3h Qster]

or that lady on the syrup bottle

Aunt Jemima! omg, score some pancakes after seeing this movie you WILL need the comfort food

The Good:
CGI (every battle was fun to watch)
Optimus Prime is truly the man, character defines what is a "hero"
The Fallen (sorry he was just great to me, plus he was my fav baddy from the comics)

The Bad:
Plot (not one hole but enough to say a moth attacked the script)
Length (this isnt LOTR!)
Human actors (god what people do for a paycheck now-a-days)
The Twins (ok Mudflap was passable funny, but Skids was just plain dumb)
Music (I have the soundtrack, yet it seems they didn't bother using it)

3/10 makes me sad saying it but I prolly wont buy this on DVD/Blu Ray until its in the 5 dollar bin at walmart (CURSE YOU MICHAEL BAY)

PS: I didn't categorize Megan fox in the good because even though she is hot, there are plenty of hot women in the business, so she cant save the movie with that booty

[Heisenberg]

Well everything I have seen here doesn't dent my excitement one bit. I will most likely enjoy it, I like to be entertained at the cinema and this will do just that. The action is enough alone for the ticket price. I must think different to everyone else, I thought Star Trek sucked fucking major balls while 99% of the population loved it.

I know exactly what this film is gonna be like, It's a throw-away popcorn flick. I'm still hyped.

[kobe8byrant]

But what if the action is recycled and everything you will see is almost similar to everything you've seen? That was what sucked ass. Egypt mayhem was similar to the chaos in Transformers (whatever country that desert was in).

In 2 hrs 30 mins, only THREE major action sequences. That kinda sucked.....

[Hey Man]

Can we finally just agree that Michael Bay is the king of the hacks - meaning the most talented of them all.

[poopontheshoes7]

Well poop..you've given me some hope on this. The reviews have been so bad I was thinking I may just skip this all together. I'll probably hit an afternoon showing so I don't have to pay full price.

I am one of the few that really enjoyed T4 so if this is at least enjoyable for the action....than maybe I may like this too.

On a side note....being a female myself, I was surprised to see that Jenna reviewed the film. From the reviews of hers I have read...it didn't seem like something she would like anyway. She seems more like a romcom girl....so I may actually like TF2 since I tend to go the other way from the usual female viewers and love stuff most females hate..lol.

Now the fact that Arrow hated it....that has me worried because I usually agree with him.:(

Well Snoop, go see it. You may be surprised. All the bad buzz killed my hype before I went to see it. While watching it I thought to myself: "Whats with all the hate?"

It's not a smart film. But neither was the first. I don't get the bitching about the plot. It wasn't big or deep but there was more of a plot then the first film imo. I also don't get the bitching about the humor. Some of it was to juvenile, like humping jokes and such. But the majority of the humor was just like the humor in the first film. I do have some gripes but I was entertained overall by it. It's a massive movie in every way.

[g05]

saw it. liked it.

sure i had my little problems, but i had little problems with the first movie too. there was too many things i did like(in both movies) to let my problems get in the way though. :)

[Mr.HyDe807]

The humor worked in the first one, this one was just going a bit overboard with the humor, and just had me rolling my eyes and shaking my head.

[adamjohnson]

The review on this site is remarkably biased. !

Im pretty sure thats how personal opinions usually are.

[wtf?!?]

How come a comedy gets a pass when it utilizes tired and possibly offensive cliches , but there's an uproar if a popular action / sci fi director uses them . At least these are cgi creations and not real live people

are you seriously attempting to make the argument that because two things are similar they must be identical. that fails on one of the most basic principles of logic. I won't even go in depth on describing concepts like motivation, purpose or simply the difference between a comedy and an action movie, because if you can't figure out this very simple example, all of that will be a waste of time.

is it the same for a friend to tell his buddy who is jokingly jumping around and being foolish "you're stupid," and a mean parent telling his child who has dyslexia and failed a spelling test "you're stupid."

by your argument, because they said the same thing they must mean the same thing and should be considered the same. does that seem sensible to you, or perhaps is there something more to each comment that needs to be considered, like there is more to each type of movie?

[Toño_Potter]

I saw the movie yesterday in a premiere night!

And all I can say it's: Everybody is wrong with this movie, it's amazing,
before I start, I have to say that I was worried about the negative reviews, but, if you enjoyed the first, you'll love the second!
Yes it's true, there are two twins that seem to be crazy getto boys, and yes there is a small decepticon that it's behind Mikaela, and yes there's a moment where you don't seem them again, it's the only bad things 'cause it makes you wonder, where the hell are they?

Now the movie, first: the first half-hour it's not about sam's family, first you get a little adventure about how the autobots works as a team to find and defeat decepticons, then you will have fun with Sam's going to the university wich is a lot of fun the family it's amazing!

Then the adventure: this movie it's long but yes with funny moments, and that moments are to make you keep relaxed and don't get bored with chat's about this and that and why this happen, so yes it got laughs but good ones.

I saw the movie on IMAX, so I can say that IMAX makes it big, epic, big fights take the full IMAX screen, so it makes you feel inside the desert, and the woods where Optimus take a big fight, so please enjoy it on IMAX!!

About the plot, the plot it's easy, it's about an ordinaty boy, with and extraordinary quest to do, bumblebee it's loyal to him so it can give you tears for it's loyalty to a boy, this it's an action movie, don't ask for big chats and deep, if you want them, then go to see angels and demonds, if you want to keep informed, amazed, and fun, with even a touch of romance, and loyalty of friends, then this movie it's for you! The actors didn't get lost with their characters, it was really nice to see that everyone was in their character, like nothing changed, makes you feel the warm of the crew, and make you feel like home, and yes you will see mojo again! The only miss, I would have love to see more about the robots, too much action with them, but a little more chat and stand by of them, to enjoy them in full, will make me give to the movie an A+

Transformers it's the big hit of the summer, and I can tell you that, at the end all the people clap for it, and even while the movie was projected, all the audience was very into it, and that it's what will make this film amazing, I guess that other people and even studios didn't like the fact that it's a good movie, and they started this wave of bad reviews, please stop it, and enjoy the movie, I found in transformers 2, what I was looking for: action, more robots, and big moments, and yes IMAX make it even more amazing...
My review: 9/10 it is the hit movie of the summer! And yes I want a third one!

[Heisenberg]

is it the same for a friend to tell his buddy who is jokingly jumping around and being foolish "you're stupid," and a mean parent telling his child who has dyslexia and failed a spelling test "you're stupid.

Hmm. Your way off here mate. Way off.

[JohnLocke2342]

What the fuck is wrong with everbody, pissing on Jenna's review? She seems like a good choice to review it, as she's a self-declared "geek", hosts the geek stuff segment of the joblo movie show, and has pretty similar taste to all of the other guys on Joblo. Give it a break... she hated the movie... is thats so fucking wrong? Good Lord. You can disagree with her if you like, but so far, most of the reviews on here have agreed with her.

This is pretty much what people are agreeing with, and it's my assessment of her review from last night after I saw the film:

Side Note of a Side Note: Jenna Busch's review does not do this film justice at all. Now, I dig her reviews A LOT. Her review of The Proposal was spot on, but this one was just flat. No offense to her, I'm not trying to get banned or put her down I'm just pointing some things out. Sam's mom does not attack someone or flip out, she's an insanely hyper person and the weed mellows her a bit... she tries to catch a frisbee and runs into a dude. And Sam reappearing with a bandage? He burned his hand badly coming out of the teleportation and a scene clearly shows that.. then Megan Fox wraps his hand with her white t-shirt she is now no longer wearing. I understand you hated the film to the point where you stopped paying attention but hating it, then ignoring it and reviewing it just doesn't work. And blowing her off? He didn't blow her off... he went to a party, said he was gonna leave early but then went batshit crazy after the all-spark fucked with his mind. It side-tracked him lol... come on! If you're gonna go to a Michael Bay flick trying to spot when someone's pants aren't dirty after an action scene then why are you even there? I just felt like it was an awfully biased review based on how much she hated it, so she then nit-picked over everything. But hey, everyone has their own opinions, so I'm just pointing out mine!

I'm not being sexist, or hating on Jenna, or being crude, or attacking her. So please don't come and report me or something. I just thought I'd point out some things she kinda messed up a bit.

[snoopmish]

Well Snoop, go see it. You may be surprised. All the bad buzz killed my hype before I went to see it. While watching it I thought to myself: "Whats with all the hate?"

It's not a smart film. But neither was the first. I don't get the bitching about the plot. It wasn't big or deep but there was more of a plot then the first film imo. I also don't get the bitching about the humor. Some of it was to juvenile, like humping jokes and such. But the majority of the humor was just like the humor in the first film. I do have some gripes but I was entertained overall by it. It's a massive movie in every way.

Since I loved the 1st as a fun ass time at the movies...I'll go ahead and check it out tonight like I planned. I just won't go in expecting to be blown away and just expect to see giant robot fun!:D

[DME]

Has any other movie ever brought out this many first time posters to stem a tide of negativity?

[razgriz21]

REVIEW

It felt like riding in a washing machine for a few hours. A wild and direct assault on the human senses. However, there are flaws.

Cons:
-Convoluted plot that jumps across the map
-The Twins humor is hit and miss (Mostly miss)
-overwhelming and bloated at times have you trying to recover
-other humor is hit or just there (I didn't laugh or shake my head a lot)

Pros:
-the cinematography of the action scenes is excellent yet kinetic. Easy to tell what happens and gives you the feeling that you are in the battle (Forest, Shanghai, Egypt)
-epic music score from Steve Jablonsky
-superb voice acting on Peter Cullen, Tony Todd, and Hugo Weaving along with the rest
-Shia and Megan have a nice chemistry while John Turturro returns as an ally instead of a silly adversary
-Duhamel and Gibson make dependable soldiers
-the computer FX blend in well with the on location environments
-pyrotechnics, stunts, and computer FX are excellent

3.8 out of 5.0

I like the first one slightly more but this one upends it in the machine vs. machine action. I could have done without the Twins but Sideswipe, The Fallen, Devastator, JetFire and other additions were welcome. (Not enough Sideswipe though)

Nice to see StarScream and Megatron bicker at each other.

[FLAME_ON]

My expectations are high and I'm leaving them that way.

Saw it last night and it was right on the money... my only complaints are the lack of organization over the enormous cast of characters. That and the lazy--we-ran-outta-money--covered up fight between Optimus, The Fallen, and Megatron... seriously though, that should have been the big, climatic fight instead of Sam running 5 miles with the military and 3 Autobots vs. 20 bad mother fucking Decepticons.
That ending would have been much more cleaner/shorter (better) if Optimus was revived as soon as they dropped down--cutting out Sam running 5 miles.

The twins were pretty cringe-worthy. Couldn't the writers have come up with original one liners? Instead of the same, lame "thug" talk we've heard for 10 years now?

Anyways... A fun, fun, fun movie; I found the story (yes the story; Sam knows some secrets, the Decepticons want those secrets so they can destroy the sun and get more power, the military is uneasy with working along with Transformers, Sam and Mikaela struggle with a relationship and love while being at the front lines of civil war between giant, talking, transforming robots, and more importantly--it's about growing up ;); that was enough for me),laughed, sat in awe, and constantly reminded myself of how much work goes into a movie of this scale; Bay being able to manage all of that impresses me.

ROTF: 7.5/10

Transformers: 8/10

[rocknblues81]

i hope Michael Bay gets cancer and dies.I hate him. Transformers was horrible back in that horrible decade of the 80's and it's terrible now.

[SkyNet]

i hope Michael Bay gets cancer and dies.I hate him. Transformers was horrible back in that horrible decade of the 80's and it's terrible now.

...?!?! i mean, even if you hate the flick... cancer and death?! You don't reserve that type of hatred for people that actually deserve it?!

[Dom Shady]

...?!?! i mean, even if you hate the flick... cancer and death?! You don't reserve that type of hatred for people that actually deserve it?!

If Bay can inspire that kind of hatred just from directing a movie, he probably deserves it.

[razgriz21]

For the record, I enjoy smart movies (Sunshine, Clerks) too but I also enjoyed Transformers and it's sequel. Flawed but entertaining.

[Moviefreek]

This review could probably go on for days about what was right and what went wrong. I could talk about all the things that should and should not have happened but I will keep it to a minimum. For those who saw the original Transformers you know what to expect with Transformers 2. I enjoyed the original film and thought it was Michael Bay's best film. It was an action packed summer blockbuster that was loads of fun. Transformers 2 is an action packed summer blockbuster that starts out fun but slowly drains it's battery until there is no life left.

The Transformers are the main stars here and let us make no mistake about that. Shia LaBeouf(Eagle Eye) delivers as always and never misses a note. Megan fox(Transformers) is attractive but that is about all she is good for here. My advice for her would be to move along and show your acting chops, if you have any, somewhere that allows you to. John Turturro(O Brother, Where Art Thou) who played Agent Simmons in the first film returns but has now been stripped of that title. Turturro is actually better in this film than but that is only until he is consumed into the horrible final act of the film, more on that later. Josh Duhamel(Turistas) and Tyrese Gibson(2 Fast 2 Furious) return as the army buddies and just like first film they do not have much to do here but yell and spit out a few one liners.

The film actually starts out very strong and is extremely entertaining and it felt much like the first one. About an hour into the film there is a visually stunning battle in a forest between the Autobots(Good Guys) and Decepticons(Bad Guys) then many of our favorite Transformers take a back seat to one of the main Autobots, Bumblebee, and two other Autobots who were non existent in the first film. Some may label them as being a racial stereotype but I did not see it that way. I did see them as annoying and a waste of screen time. So after the forest sequence we are left with these three robots and the main human characters and they do nothing for a good hour but try to move along the plot. A plot which is created by an ancient transformer but everything he says is a bunch of mambo jumbo that goes on for way too long. The film tries so hard to create a plot when it should have just accepted itself for what it was and continued to entertain instead of wasting screen time with worthless babble.

The film then makes it to the final act which is where the film becomes a complete mess. There is plenty of action here and some of it is good but then some of it is very bad. The human characters run around and yell for a little over thirty minutes dodging explosion after pointless explosion. John Turturro, who I mentioned earlier, makes his way up a crumbling pyramid and this scene was laughably bad in it's realism and execution. There is also a moment of rebirth for one of the Autobots that happens so fast and is so messy that I'm not even sure what happened. Then after the rebirth he is wasted in an all too brief of a fight which is a shame seeing how there was so much pointless action before it. The film also ends rather abruptly with no real closure. It seems as though they realized they had spent way too much time in the final act and decided closure was not important.

I know it sounds like I hated the film more than anything but that is not true. I really enjoyed the first hour and had a great time which makes it that much more painful when the film turned out like it did. The film is heavily loaded in it's first hour with Transformer action. The middle hour has a bunch of pointless babble and a couple of Autobots who over stay their welcome but remains mildly entertaining. Then the final act has great action but horrible execution. The film is long but not in the aspect that it feels long but that it could have been trimmed down of some pointless scenes and action. The film is worth checking out in the theater for the robot on robot action that it displays but just be prepared for a long and eventually boring final act.

6 out of 10.

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[adamjohnson]

Im getting sick and fucking tired of this "ITs about robots and explosions. I dont want War and Peace!" Youre not helping your argument by admitting a movie is deficient before its even made, finished, or seen.

No I dont want an Orwellian social commentary with every movie out there, but if youre going to make a movie about shit blowing up, why dont yuo make sure everything else is top fucking notch as well? Instead of full of holes and bad acting.

I swear. I might actually prefer watcing Ewan McGregor and ScarJo falling off a fucking building and SURVIVING than to listening you fans drone on and on "I just like to tun my brain off"

[rocknblues81]

Im getting sick and fucking tired of this "ITs about robots and explosions. I dont want War and Peace!" Youre not helping your argument by admitting a movie is deficient before its even made, finished, or seen.

No I dont want an Orwellian social commentary with every movie out there, but if youre going to make a movie about shit blowing up, why dont yuo make sure everything else is top fucking notch as well? Instead of full of holes and bad acting.

I swear. I might actually prefer watcing Ewan McGregor and ScarJo falling off a fucking building and SURVIVING than to listening you fans drone on and on "I just like to tun my brain off"


It's just strange to hear people basically say "I WANT to like something that sucks."

[Reigh Kaufman]

It's just strange to hear people basically say "I WANT to like something that sucks."

I get the concept of people wanting to be entertained, but when they use this argument to defend a movie that they themselves admit is utter twaddle then we have no reason to complain when the studios greenlight Paul Blart Deux instead of To the White Sea or Ronnie Rocket.

[SkyNet]

i dont know.. a movie is a movie to be judged by the merits each individual has set upon themselves for what they choose to enjoy.

I happen to enjoy the hell out of the flicks Bay makes, many people dont.. but in his defense, i have only ever known Film people like the people on these boards or the people i went to school with (or critics) to not like his flicks... which is especially true considering his movies make a SHIT load of money, they may cost a few bucks to produce, but god damn do the studios get a return on their investments!

And that goes hand in hand with the crowd i saw this with last night... people, the general people, the people who go see these movies and thus make profits for studios and allow ANY movi to ever be made, be it Paul Blart 2 as you mentioned or some art house classy flick, because the crowd i saw it with LOVED this flick, they were cheering, they were immersed, they were in awe of the kick ass fights.

So i mean, even if you hate Transformers 2... trust that the money made by this movie will fund some lower cost flick.

but dont get mad, cuz this lfick isnt for you... some are, some arent!

[rocknblues81]

i dont know.. a movie is a movie to be judged by the merits each individual has set upon themselves for what they choose to enjoy.

I happen to enjoy the hell out of the flicks Bay makes, many people dont.. but in his defense, i have only ever known Film people like the people on these boards or the people i went to school with (or critics) to not like his flicks... which is especially true considering his movies make a SHIT load of money, they may cost a few bucks to produce, but god damn do the studios get a return on their investments!

And that goes hand in hand with the crowd i saw this with last night... people, the general people, the people who go see these movies and thus make profits for studios and allow ANY movi to ever be made, be it Paul Blart 2 as you mentioned or some art house classy flick, because the crowd i saw it with LOVED this flick, they were cheering, they were immersed, they were in awe of the kick ass fights.

So i mean, even if you hate Transformers 2... trust that the money made by this movie will fund some lower cost flick.

but dont get mad, cuz this lfick isnt for you... some are, some arent!

I didn't like Bay movies before I even came on the net a lot. I don't like the general people either so it goes hand and hand with my dislike for Bay. I just... I grew up on the Die Hard's and Lethal Weapon movies and when I saw Bad Boys and that awful movie with Bruce and Billy Bob I suspected action movies were pretty much done. And other than the Jason Bourne and Casino Royale they pretty much.

Since most movies now suck it's not like this horrible movies are making lots of great movies possible.

[xseanymacx]

I may check this out at some point. I thought the first was very blah but this exactly the type of movie I want to roll a J too and chill the fuck out watching. I completely understand the sentiment of "turning off your brain" and enjoying what's in front of you. I don't particularly use it as a reason but who the fuck cares if people do? If someone can wade through the bad acting, bad dialog, but not be pissed they spent $10 because of how much they enjoyed the action; THEN GOOD FOR THEM. I'm not attacking anyone in particular, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but people are allowed to like whatever they want in a movie. If they feel they got their money's worth than I say good for them. It has no bearing on your life at all and your soap box may be just a little too high for you.

[adamjohnson]

i dont know.. a movie is a movie to be judged by the merits each individual has set upon themselves for what they choose to enjoy.

I happen to enjoy the hell out of the flicks Bay makes, many people dont.. but in his defense, i have only ever known Film people like the people on these boards or the people i went to school with (or critics) to not like his flicks... which is especially true considering his movies make a SHIT load of money, they may cost a few bucks to produce, but god damn do the studios get a return on their investments!

And that goes hand in hand with the crowd i saw this with last night... people, the general people, the people who go see these movies and thus make profits for studios and allow ANY movi to ever be made, be it Paul Blart 2 as you mentioned or some art house classy flick, because the crowd i saw it with LOVED this flick, they were cheering, they were immersed, they were in awe of the kick ass fights.

So i mean, even if you hate Transformers 2... trust that the money made by this movie will fund some lower cost flick.

but dont get mad, cuz this lfick isnt for you... some are, some arent!

Just because a bunch of idiots liked it, doesnt mean theyre not idiots.

[JohnLocke2342]

I may check this out at some point. I thought the first was very blah but this exactly the type of movie I want to roll a J too and chill the fuck out watching. I completely understand the sentiment of "turning off your brain" and enjoying what's in front of you. I don't particularly use it as a reason but who the fuck cares if people do? If someone can wade through the bad acting, bad dialog, but not be pissed they spent $10 because of how much they enjoyed the action; THEN GOOD FOR THEM. I'm not attacking anyone in particular, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but people are allowed to like whatever they want in a movie. If they feel they got their money's worth than I say good for them. It has no bearing on your life at all and your soap box may be just a little too high for you.

fucking right on.

[SkyNet]

Just because a bunch of idiots liked it, doesnt mean theyre not idiots.


ummm ok.... whatever you say chief!

[RoVert]

People will have differences in opinion. It's natural. But be reasonable and not show your childish nature in reviews and call people idiots who outweighed the positives over the negatives and came out thoroughly enjoying the movie. I don't want to read that crap, nor does anyone else, especially such lovely tripe people spout where they wish harm on Michael Bay or anyone else involved with the production of the movie. Everyone is an obvious critic but leave your petty vendetta you have against Bay elsewhere, preferably off the computer because it makes you look petty and stupid.

My pain problem is the rating in these reviews, especially the main one on this site. People will either love this or hate it, but for a staff member to justifiably give it a 2/10 rating followed by every other schmoe to join the brigade, where as another staff reviewer gave The Love Guru a 5/10 just last year? C'mon.... I hate labeling a movie with numbers, but Jesus Christ if people are going to use them can we have some consistency in these ratings please! Even if you hated it, TF2 is still deserving above a 5, or 6 at it's worst. By no means is it a 9 out of 10, or 10/10, but it's also not below a 5 or below.

[rocknblues81]

People will have differences in opinion. It's natural. But be reasonable and not show your childish nature in reviews and call people idiots who outweighed the positives over the negatives and came out thoroughly enjoying the movie. I don't want to read that crap, nor does anyone else, especially such lovely tripe people spout where they wish harm on Michael Bay or anyone else involved with the production of the movie. Everyone is an obvious critic but leave your petty vendetta you have against Bay elsewhere, preferably off the computer because it makes you look petty and stupid.

My pain problem is the rating in these reviews, especially the main one on this site. People will either love this or hate it, but for a staff member to justifiably give it a 2/10 rating followed by every other schmoe to join the brigade, where as another staff reviewer gave The Love Guru a 5/10 just last year? C'mon.... I hate labeling a movie with numbers, but Jesus Christ if people are going to use them can we have some consistency in these ratings please! Even if you hated it, TF2 is still deserving above a 5, or 6 at it's worst. By no means is it a 9 out of 10, or 10/10, but it's also not below a 5 or below.

Well, I'm going to voice my displeasure over Bay and his movies. That's part of what these boards are for. He makes one horrible movie after another. Nobody that I knows that watches this trash can give me a real answer at why they watch these movies other watching stuff blow up. Are people really that low brow when it comes to entertainment? Has people attention span really declined this much over the last 20-30 years?

I can't stand pop culture anymore or the people that are sucked into it. It's just unbelievable to me at the kind of stuff people will accept as good or entertaining. I expect it from my trailer trash hillbilly of a nephew because of what he is. But.... Something shouldn't be completely dumb to be considered entertaining.

[poopontheshoes7]

Well, I'm going to voice my displeasure over Bay and his movies. That's part of what these boards are for. He makes one horrible movie after another. Nobody that I knows that watches this trash can give me a real answer at why they watch these movies other watching stuff blow up. Are people really that low brow when it comes to entertainment? Has people attention span really declined this much over the last 20-30 years?

I can't stand pop culture anymore or the people that are sucked into it. It's just unbelievable to me at the kind of stuff people will accept as good or entertaining. I expect it from my trailer trash hillbilly of a nephew because of what he is. But.... Something shouldn't be completely dumb to be considered entertaining.

Or you could get off your high horse and at least try excepting the fact people DO find his films entertaining and that doesn't make them trailer trash or hillbillies. God forbid I or anybodsy else enjoy a movie that isn't some deep psychological exploration of the human mind everyonce in a while. Sorry if that offends you.

[rocknblues81]

Or you could get off your high horse and at least try excepting the fact people DO find his films entertaining and that doesn't make them trailer trash or hillbillies. God forbid I or anybodsy else enjoy a movie that isn't some deep psychological exploration of the human mind everyonce in a while. Sorry if that offends you.


I'm a big Die Hard fan. It's not the deepest movie ever, but it's not as dumb and one dimensional as Michael Bay's action movies. Terminator 2 is not the most deep movie ever. I'm just asking, Isn't there any standard at all? Or can MB just film himself crapping in a box and people will accept it as great entertainment? How shallow do movies have to get before people actually realize how they are? Putting ugly chicks like Gabrielle Union in a bikini doesn't count as extra depth.

[Lenbo]

After Devastator finishes transforming, three of the Constructicons (Mixmaster, Rampage, Long Haul) show up seperately and fight simultaneously during the fight. I didn't know they had the ability to be in two places at once.

Seems the editor couldn't even keep track of who was who and where. Not to mention who already DIED.

And who put the Terminatrix in my Transformers movie? Oh right, Micheal Bay. A killer robot in disguise as a sexy, emotionless blonde, very original.

- Lenbo

[ilovemovies]

Given that I wasn't a fan of the first film and that the critics were trashing this like mad, needless to say I went in this movie with trepidation. Going in with really low expectations turned out to be a good thing. It's not nearly as bad and as painful as I was expecting. Is it a good movie? No. Not at all. There are tons of problems with this movie and yeah the jive talking transformers got on my nerves and had WAAAAY too much screen time. But there are some pretty cool moments as well. In the end, this movie is not good but it's a massive improvement over the first film.

6/10



SPOILERS!








So is Optimus Prime going to be killed and brought back to life in EVERY Transformers movie?! ;)

[rocknblues81]

Or you could get off your high horse and at least try excepting the fact people DO find his films entertaining and that doesn't make them trailer trash or hillbillies. God forbid I or anybodsy else enjoy a movie that isn't some deep psychological exploration of the human mind everyonce in a while. Sorry if that offends you.

If I had less personal experience with people trying to get me to watch these types of movies, I wouldn't care that much. It's like everybody I know is like this and it gets on my nerves.

[RoVert]

And who put the Terminatrix in my Transformers movie? Oh right, Micheal Bay. A killer robot in disguise as a sexy, emotionless blonde, very original.
She was a pretender. I don't even know much about Transformers outside of G1 and even I knew that. Granted, I wish they would have explored that more, as a minor gripe I had with the film is why didn't Bumblebee detect her when she was in the car with Sam? I could harp on that until the end of time, but at the end of the day, why bother.

I expect it from my trailer trash hillbilly of a nephew because of what he is. But.... Something shouldn't be completely dumb to be considered entertaining.
So it's okay for you to stereotype an entire fanbase, but heaven forbid if Michael Bay puts in two questionable characters in his movie, ala The Twins? Those characters are no more offensive than The Fresh Prince of Bel Air which currently runs in syndication on multiple networks and stereotypes an entire culture and race. (ie. He make black people look jokingly bad too *shock* )

If this was done by any other Director, and people got over whatever issues they have with Michael Bay, they would be eating this up. Seriously, I don't understand the Michael Bay hate. He makes action films, things go boom. Would they rather have someone as Spielberg or Scorsese direct a 3 hour drama with the action coming in second to the picture? I know I sure as hell don't. I'm remembering Spielberg's last several attempts at "action" being the disappointing War of the Worlds and the love/hate Indy 4.

I am just baffled at people making this out to be the forthcoming of the apocalypse, or how last summer the same people made TDK out to be the second coming of Christ to which were met with the trolls saying the film was only as successful box office-wise due to the death involved. Both responses make them sound utterly fucking stupid in doing so. I can completely see how some people would not like this movie because of the over-use of humor and the way some characters were not showcased or arguably mistreated, but to make it out to be the worst picture this year and/or century, again... be reasonable. It's so easy to label something in Simpsons' comic book guy tone "worst. movie. ever." but just because you say that, doesn't make it so.

I want the action, with a decent plot second which I got, thus my satisfaction with the end product. I could rip this film apart if I truly wanted to, but what point would that bring other than an end result of me hating it. If I seek flaws, flaws I will find and most of the reviewers and critics went into this specifically to rip this movie apart and exploit any flaw they could possibly spot.

[athf1980]

3.5/5

A decent action flick. Bay knows how to blow stuff up really well but can't tell a story.

[wyked2000]

Saw the film earlier today....

Michael bay is an explosionary director....this movie was epic....but first things first:

Forget about a plot. I kinda understood what was going on but it really made no sense, but I was at peace with that because that's what I expected. It is Michael Bay after all.

The scenes with just humans in them dragged, the humor felt kinda flat, and basically megan fox is good to look at....aaaaaaand thats about it.

But gotdamn the battles were beautiful....he does explosions and blowing shit up like no other director, and that's all I needed.

So I thoroughly enjoyed it, warts and all....

[rocknblues81]

Those characters are no more offensive than The Fresh Prince of Bel Air which currently runs in syndication on multiple networks and stereotypes an entire culture and race. (ie. He make black people look jokingly bad too *shock* )

Just for the record. I didn't watch that show either. I'm not a Will Smith fan either.

If this was done by any other Director, and people got over whatever issues they have with Michael Bay, they would be eating this up. Seriously, I don't understand the Michael Bay hate. He makes action films, things go boom. Would they rather have someone as Spielberg or Scorsese direct a 3 hour drama with the action coming in second to the picture? I know I sure as hell don't. I'm remembering Spielberg's last several attempts at "action" being the disappointing War of the Worlds and the love/hate Indy 4.

I haven't seen Indy 4. Probably will not ever seen it. I didn't like War of the Worlds that much either to be honest. Of course the average person that doesn't want to see anything more than fart jokes or things blow up. The average person's attention span has got that bad from what I see.

I am just baffled at people making this out to be the forthcoming of the apocalypse, or how last summer the same people made TDK out to be the second coming of Christ to which were met with the trolls saying the film was only as successful box office-wise due to the death involved. Both responses make them sound utterly fucking stupid in doing so. I can completely see how some people would not like this movie because of the over-use of humor and the way some characters were not showcased or arguably mistreated, but to make it out to be the worst picture this year and/or century, again... be reasonable. It's so easy to label something in Simpsons' comic book guy tone "worst. movie. ever." but just because you say that, doesn't make it so.

I'll label it a piece of crap because that's what all Michael Bay's movies are. A piece of crap.


I want the action, with a decent plot second which I got, thus my satisfaction with the end product. I could rip this film apart if I truly wanted to, but what point would that bring other than an end result of me hating it. If I seek flaws, flaws I will find and most of the reviewers and critics went into this specifically to rip this movie apart and exploit any flaw they could possibly spot.

Decent plot? The Transformers were bad back in that horrible decade known as the 80's and it's bad now. What possible plot can there actually be here?

[RoVert]

Decent plot? The Transformers were bad back in that horrible decade known as the 80's and it's bad now. What possible plot can there actually be here?
THANK YOU. Point proven. People are expecting so much story-wise from this when they fail to see the source material is a cheesy as hell cartoon with basically nothing but explosions and Autobot vs Decepticon action. Watch these two films then compare them to the actual Transformers animated movie and tell me which is worse. Weird Al Yankovic's "Dare To Be Stupid" is the icing on the cheesecake there folks. As much as I cherish the old G1 series, give me Michael Bay's "see that landmark; See that character? Now make them go boom" driven film over those blindly nostalgic classics any day of the week.

It has nothing to do with short attention spans. People just get sick of seeing long-winded dramas over and over again and when a pure-action film such as this comes along, it's nice to not have to strain hard to pay attention to every minute detail in order to piece together what the hell is going on. But even with this film, people seemed to have problems accomplishing that simple task. Now tell me who has the shorter end of that stick....

And see, there you go again with the "crap" comment. When you say that, how can anyone obviously take your "opinion" seriously or with anything but a grain of salt because you seem to have a distinct prejudice against Michael Bay himself and thus classify all his films regardless whether they are decent or not into the category of "crap".

[rocknblues81]

And see, there you go again with the "crap" comment. When you say that, how can anyone obviously take your "opinion" seriously or with anything but a grain of salt because you seem to have a distinct prejudice against Michael Bay himself and thus classify all his films regardless whether they are decent or not into the category of "crap".

If Martin Scorsese made this same movie I'd still hate it. When I saw Bad Boys and Armageddon back in the early days I had no clue who Michael Bay was of himself. But I knew back then that I didn't like those movies. I could look at Die Hard and then look at Bad Boys and realize that BB isn't up to snuff as a quality action movie. I haven't jumped on the MB hate train because everybody else has.

I've jumped on it now because I hate every movie of his that I've ever seen. I've built hate for him with every movie he has came out with. If he makes a movie that offers something more than something blowing up I will give it a chance. And I will. If he even improves his ways of making action movies I might give one a chance.

It has nothing to do with short attention spans. People just get sick of seeing long-winded dramas over and over again and when a pure-action film such as this comes along, it's nice to not have to strain hard to pay attention to every minute detail in order to piece together what the hell is going on. But even with this film, people seemed to have problems accomplishing that simple task. Now tell me who has the shorter end of that stick....

Die Hard is not a long winded drama. I'm saying action movies don't have to be as dumb as possible. There are movies like Casino Royale that isn't completely dumbed down to the lowest form possible. The Dawn of the Dead remake is a good action movie. Not the smartest movie around, but it's not as dumb as Bay's action movies. I can't understand why an action movie has to be so one dimensional for people to enjoy it.

That was once the good thing about the action genre. You could watch stuff blow up, you got good characters, some intensity in the movie and some comedy. You could get the whole package. Now all you really get in these movies is stuff being blown up. All Michael Bay is giving is an action movie at IT'S lowest form. When I put Bay's action movies against some of the all time bests, Bay's movie still fail.

Jason Bourne
Die Hard 1-3
Predator
Terminator 1-2
Speed
Robocop
Lethal Weapon
Escape From New York

None of Bay's movies are on par. As good of an action movie as Predator is... It can even count as a horror movie. Bay's movies are so one note. Even True Lies is better as a screwball comedy than it is an action movie.

[adamjohnson]

I'm a big Die Hard fan. It's not the deepest movie ever, but it's not as dumb and one dimensional as Michael Bay's action movies. Terminator 2 is not the most deep movie ever. I'm just asking, Isn't there any standard at all? Or can MB just film himself crapping in a box and people will accept it as great entertainment? How shallow do movies have to get before people actually realize how they are? Putting ugly chicks like Gabrielle Union in a bikini doesn't count as extra depth.

Actually, I'd go as far to say that Die Hard is one of the best WRITTEN movies of ALL time, certainly one of, if not the very, very best written, action movie of all time.

You can have shit blowing up and people getting offed, and STILL have good dialogue, an interesting plot and good, believable characters.

It's not a question of "dumb" vs "intelligent" films. I dont expect some super intelligent film out of Transformers. Its simply a matter of good quality and bad quality.

And Terminator 2 IS pretty deep. Especially compared to Bay's films.

[rocknblues81]

Actually, I'd go as far to say that Die Hard is one of the best WRITTEN movies of ALL time, certainly one of, if not the very, very best written, action movie of all time.

You can have shit blowing up and people getting offed, and STILL have good dialogue, an interesting plot and good, believable characters.

It's not a question of "dumb" vs "intelligent" films. I dont expect some super intelligent film out of Transformers. Its simply a matter of good quality and bad quality.

And Terminator 2 IS pretty deep. Especially compared to Bay's films.

It seems like Bay fans think we attack these movies because we want everything to be Taxi Driver or Citizen Kane. That's not really the case. I hate Bay so much because he has completely wrecked the action genre quality wise.

[adamjohnson]

It seems like Bay fans think we attack these movies because we want everything to be Taxi Driver or Citizen Kane. That's not really the case. I hate Bay so much because he has completely wrecked the action genre quality wise.

I agree. We dont expect masterpieces every time but its the most basic elements of storytelling and moviemaking that are being ignored in his films - character, story, structure and dialogue.

The ability to tell a good story, have interesting and believable characters and draw us in to a fantasy world, shouldn't be completely ignored just because there are explosions.

[rocknblues81]

I agree. We dont expect masterpieces every time but its the most basic elements of storytelling and moviemaking that are being ignored in his films - character, story, structure and dialogue.

The ability to tell a good story, have interesting and believable characters and draw us in to a fantasy world, shouldn't be completely ignored just because there are explosions.

I think to some extent people now just take what they can get. The problem is that as long as you accept that you will not get better. Hollywood wants to be as lazy as possible and still make money. If the gas gets up to 7 bucks a gallon people will accept it and pay it. If they raise the prices at the food store people just go with it and shell out the cash. The more people pay to see these movies the worse they will get. The less the effort will be put into making them.

[Mr. Fred Krueger]

Just because a bunch of idiots liked it, doesnt mean theyre not idiots.

How...condescending of you.


Saw it tonight. 8/10

Turn off your brain entertainment. I wanted Autobots and Decepticons beating the shit out of each other, and that's what I got. Anybody expecting more from a movie based off a cartoon series based on a toy line is really reaching.

My only problems were in the Twin Autobots (they got annoying after a while) and I felt the climax was a little too long. Other than that, if you like the first one, you'll like the second one too.

Oh, on a side note.




*Spoilers*









I will say that Optimus Prime's initial death scene was really well done. I was shocked, and this girl who couldn't be more than eight was sitting near me and she started bawling. :(




Of course it was okay in the end, once he came back to life. ;)













*End spoilers*

[razgriz21]

It seems like Bay fans think we attack these movies because we want everything to be Taxi Driver or Citizen Kane. That's not really the case. I hate Bay so much because he has completely wrecked the action genre quality wise.

It is the people who copy Bay that are responsible for wrecking action movies.

I still enjoyed this movie but I enjoy Die Hard, Robocop, and The Terminator more.

[adamjohnson]

It is the people who copy Bay that are responsible for wrecking action movies.

I still enjoyed this movie but I enjoy Die Hard, Robocop, and The Terminator more.

Well Bay is copying himself. What does that say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkUogaMTbW0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyx2dHAguuU

[razgriz21]

^^^That is one of his trademarks.

[someguy]

Someone told me that there are people referring to the Mudflap/Skids robots as decepticoons.

[adamjohnson]

^^^That is one of his trademarks.

Maybe his trademark should be good film making instead.

[razgriz21]

Someone told me that there are people referring to the Mudflap/Skids robots as decepticoons.

Now that is over reacting in my opinion.

For all we know, the Twins could be a bunch of suburban posers. No offense.

Good night folks.

[adamjohnson]

Someone told me that there are people referring to the Mudflap/Skids robots as deceptiCOONS.

Oh, I see what you did there.

[rocknblues81]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXGWZxI9lAs

[someguy]

That's not me making a joke or anything, I was told that people are seriously referring to them as decepticoons.

[darkface]

People can hate on Michael Bay all they want, but his Box office numbers make the point that he can make great movies and sell them to mass audiences.

Great movie 8/10. I'm a military guy myself, so it's incredibly fun to watch our toys in action fighting badass robots. I had very low expectations going in due to Jenny's horrible 2/10 rating. (Yes, I waited until I saw the movie to make my opinion on that). People do need to remember, this movie is from a 1980's cartoon about toys. The movie definitely could have used another re-write... but the original Transformers was never meant to be a deep sci-fi epic movie. It's meant for pure adrenaline action fun. And it definitely lived up to that IMO.

People definitely over-reacted to this movie initially. After hearing how the twins are a racist attempt... I have to disagree. Yes, their comedic relief was not needed most of the time. But their stereotypes are no worse than pixar's "Cars" movie with the hillbilly redneck white trash tow truck with a missing tooth. Yet... I didn't hear anyone complain about that one. Hmmm.

[rocknblues81]

People can hate on Michael Bay all they want, but his Box office numbers make the point that he can make great movies and sell them to mass audiences.

The Masses also eat McDonalds often but that doesn't make McDonalds good food.

How can you have a "great movie" when the actors are bad, the acting is bad, the plot is terrible and the movie is overall as shallow as a movie can get.

[adamjohnson]

The Masses also eat McDonalds often but that doesn't make McDonalds good food.

How can you have a "great movie" when the actors are bad, the acting is bad, the plot is terrible and the movie is overall as shallow as a movie can get.


But dude, its got, like, EXPLOSIONS and shit. It's BADASS.

[rocknblues81]

I've done gave my opinion enough here. I've said all I got to say here.

[RicochetShaw]

People can hate on Michael Bay all they want, but his Box office numbers make the point that he can make great movies


dude.


Are you really saying that the box office is what determines if a movie is great or not?


dude.

[ilovemovies]

How can you have a "great movie" when the actors are bad, the acting is bad, the plot is terrible and the movie is overall as shallow as a movie can get.

The acting isn't great in the movie but they are not bad actors at all. Infact, John Turturro is a really good actor generally.

Shai Lebouf was terrific in Disturbia and very good in Eagle Eye and The Battle of Shaker Heights.

Josh Duhamel may be a somewhat lightweight actor, but I thoroughly enjoyed his work in Las Vegas.

Tyrese Gibson was excellent in a movie called Baby Boy.

I'm a HUGE fan of Glenn Morshower's work on 24. He actually had more screen time here than I was expecting.

[rocknblues81]

The acting isn't great in the movie but they are not bad actors at all. Infact, John Turturro is a really good actor generally.

Shai Lebouf was terrific in Disturbia and very good in Eagle Eye and The Battle of Shaker Heights.

Josh Duhamel may be a somewhat lightweight actor, but I thoroughly enjoyed his work in Las Vegas.

Tyrese Gibson was excellent in a movie called Baby Boy.

I'm a HUGE fan of Glenn Morshower's work on 24. He actually had more screen time here than I was expecting.

I can't remember John being in a good movie since Oh, Brother. Now, he is just a throw in to really bad commercial movies. Once I had him on the best actors of this generation list. But due to movies like Transformers he should be pulled from that list. At least from mine.:D

lebouf? NO NO NO NO! That's all I gotta say about that.

[RicochetShaw]

*SPOILERS*



Can some one explain to me the vision, epiphany, whatever, Sam had near the end of the movie? You know, the one where the Primes explain to him that Optimus is their last descendant. Was he dead, and those Primes are really deities that rule the afterlife? Was it a telepathic message? Was he just tripping on shrooms? This movie sucked.

[Natty]

I think it was just supposed to be like a 'death-vision', like a light-in-the-tunnel sort of thing. So yeah I'm saying he was dead but was 'sent back' by the Primes.


I was shocked, and this girl who couldn't be more than eight was sitting near me and she started bawling. :(

As I said in my review, my 18-year-old (male) friend started crying at that part *sigh*.

[RicochetShaw]

I think it was just supposed to be like a 'death-vision', like a light-in-the-tunnel sort of thing. So yeah I'm saying he was dead but was 'sent back' by the Primes.



So do you think those Primes are gods, then? I mean, if he was "sent back" by the Primes, that's what it suggests, right?

Really, Bay & co? God is a Transformer?

GAH THIS MOVIE WAS SHIT.

[Natty]

Yep, Transformer Gods, I'm pretty sure that's what that scene was going for.

[God of War]

Saw it today. It was good fun. Better than T4 I reckon.

[poopontheshoes7]

lebouf? NO NO NO NO! That's all I gotta say about that.

I don't get this. People are always making this joke. He's done the NO NO NO thing in one fucking movie. I remember people actually bitching that all he was going to do in Indy 4 is scream NO. Come on people....

[fooknasty]

Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

5/10

What a big letdown. It wasn't nearly as clever or charming as the 1st one. The plot was pieced together and confusing as hell, and there were WAAAYYYY to many pointless scenes.

And (SPOILER) what the hell is with the Transformers heaven, and why would Sam go there? Wow, that was absolutely freaking stupid.

Wanted to love it, but no heart.

[FireCaptain4]

Sorry to get off topic, but where did you get your username from, fook?! Everytime I se you on the boards, I gotta cracka giggle. Is there some great, epic tale behind it?

[Mr.HyDe807]

lebouf? NO NO NO NO! That's all I gotta say about that.

Lebouf was one of the saving graces in this flick. I only wish his comedic bits were more in the flick. Unfortunately, the comedy was dealt with his annoying hacker buddy, who I wished a Decepticon would just blow away.

[Nazgul]

I don't really care about the reviews or how bad it is, as long as it has tons of robots and fighting scenes between them.

[rocknblues81]

I don't get this. People are always making this joke. He's done the NO NO NO thing in one fucking movie. I remember people actually bitching that all he was going to do in Indy 4 is scream NO. Come on people....

He's fine in Disturbia. Just having a bit of fun. Not an actor I'll seek out though.
Looks like a career PG-13 actor to me.

[snoopmish]

He's fine in Disturbia. Just having a bit of fun. Not an actor I'll seek out though.
Looks like a career PG-13 actor to me.

What about the Wall Street sequel??

[rocknblues81]

What about the Wall Street sequel??

It will probably blow. Sounds like a terrible idea anyway.