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Maestro
07-02-2009, 10:38 PM
Seems to me like this camera (http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-electronics/shop/Cameras-Camcorders/Digital-Cameras/Lumix-Digital-Cameras/model.DMC-GH1K_11002_7000000000000005702) would be pretty good for aspiring/micro-budget filmmakers.

Thoughts? - M

Criminal Rock
07-03-2009, 12:20 AM
This camera produces great images... (http://vimeo.com/4405518?hd=1)

Maestro
07-03-2009, 02:09 AM
Huh. And yet, under "ACCESSORIES" (um, why under "accessories"?) on the Tech Specs tab, it says:

Motion Image (HD Movie) 1280 x 720, 30fps

...and...

Motion Image (AVCHD) NTSC: [Full HD] 1920 x 1080, 60i (sensor output is 24fps)(FHD: 17Mbps) [HD] 1280 x 720, 60p (SH: 17Mbps, H: 13Mbps, L: 9Mbps)

Not to mention, right under the picture of the camera, it says:

1080p Full HD AVCHD Camcorder
Full-HD Movie Recording in AVCHD

Odd... - M

Silverload
07-05-2009, 07:06 PM
I've got one of these on order. Great looking images + interchangeable lenses + an adapter for PL mounts! = amazing camera for the price. If this had a higher bit rate and native 24p, it would be jaw dropping.

Here are some GH1 test shots compared with the HPX170: http://vimeo.com/5373927

Heisenberg
07-09-2009, 05:55 AM
The video from that camera is brilliant, but are there any alternative video cameras with the same quality or near. For about the same price or less? Cause I can't find anything.

Help would be appreciated.

mutant_gorilla
07-09-2009, 08:06 AM
i kind of want this camera. i've been looking for a really nice still shot camera after fiddling around with my photographer friend's Canon on a Disney trip...

Maestro
07-09-2009, 11:14 PM
are there any alternative video cameras with the same quality or near. For about the same price or less? Cause I can't find anything.

Um, that would be why I mentioned the GH1 specifically. To the best of my knowledge, there currently isn't anything like it. That said, the Pentax K-7 and/or Nikon D90 are probably about as close as you're going to get, price-wise.

But neither is really comparable to the GH1, IMO - M

Heisenberg
07-10-2009, 04:38 AM
Um, that would be why I mentioned the GH1 specifically. To the best of my knowledge, there currently isn't anything like it. That said, the Pentax K-7 and/or Nikon D90 are probably about as close as you're going to get, price-wise.

But neither is really comparable to the GH1, IMO - M

Yeah looking back now, my question was kinda stupid :p.

Thanks for responding though.

Maestro
07-11-2009, 12:46 AM
No prob. And your question wasn't stupid. At least, I don't think it was. Unless you're a camera geek, you probably wouldn't be up on the latest gear.

And that's the real reason I started this thread--to clue-in anyone who might be interested in this camera, but hadn't heard about it yet.

M

Silverload
07-11-2009, 06:11 PM
The video from that camera is brilliant, but are there any alternative video cameras with the same quality or near. For about the same price or less? Cause I can't find anything.

Help would be appreciated.

There is the Nikon D90 & D5000. The D90 has awesome video, some of the most film-like footage I've ever seen from a digital camera. But there are some big downsides to the D90.

The biggest problem with this camera is that there are no manual controls. This makes shooting consistent footage from one setup to the next a pain in the ass.

The second problem is what people call "Jello-vision". Rapid movement causes the image on this camera to wobble around like jello. It looks very bad. You can avoid this by using a wide angle lenses + some kind of stabilizing system.

These problems are too much of a pain for me personally, but it hasn't kept people from shooting professional work with it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5TKKbR6hzw
http://www.vimeo.com/3844707
http://www.vimeo.com/3880786
http://www.vimeo.com/2923521

I personally think the D90 shoots better looking video than the GH1, plus it has native 24p (no pulldown like the GH1). But the lack of manual controls, 720p only, and jello-vision is enough to keep me from personally considering it for any professional work.

The D5000 is the exact same camera as the D90, just minus a few bells & whistles.

i kind of want this camera. i've been looking for a really nice still shot camera after fiddling around with my photographer friend's Canon on a Disney trip...

If you just want a still camera, then there are much better choices out there than Panasonic. The GH1 only kicks ass in the video department, but falls way short of Nikon & Canon for still photography.

Maestro
08-10-2009, 08:21 PM
http://vimeo.com/5981422

Yes, the Red footage is better, but when you factor in that the Red costs $30,000 and the GH1 costs $1,500, I don't think the Red footage is twenty times better.

Looking at that another way, you could spend $30k on a Red and have a really cool camera to show people. Or you could spend $3k on a GH1 (and a nice lens or two), $27k on production, and have a really cool short film to show people.

I think most aspiring filmmakers would be better off doing the latter - M

P.S. For the sake of completeness, JoBlo thread on Red (and 5DMk2):

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131187