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Highspeed
07-11-2009, 04:00 PM
Have you felt it? Have you thought you felt it? Livin your own romantic comedy right now? Wish you were livin your own romantic comedy right now? Share with us your stories of either love found or love lost.
Me the closest thing I've got to love was my freshmen year of high school in Oregon. Her name was Tiffany and naturally I had to chase her for a month or so. She finally caved in and agreed to go with me to our homecoming dance. We started goin steady that same night.
We were goin strong for about 8 months then my mother informed us we were movin back to Arizona. My step dad was stayin behind for awhile after my mom left so I decided to stay with him so I can stay with Tiff. One day my dad caught me and Tiff in a "questionable situation" and he decided to send me to Arizona cause he couldn't deal with me and Tiffs curiosity I guess you could say.
When I moved me and Tiff pretty much did the long distance thing off and on for seven years. We went through periods where we made promises to each other to meet up when we could. We went through periods of hating each other. She came to Arizona and visited me and my family and the visit didnt go very well. I had a girlfriend at the time she was comin down you see, and I broke up with said girlfriend because I didnt know what would end up going down between me and Tiff and I didn't want to be considered a cheater. So I didnt treat Tiff the way I should have when she was here and that ended in a period of us not talking for a long while.
Well we mended things and October of last year she decided to come live with me, she left a guy she was with in Louisiana and packed up and came back to AZ. We set a date for a wedding and started lookin for jobs. For the two weeks she was actually here this ex of hers started calling her feeding her shit about how he's changed and he'd do right by her if she came back. This on top of not being able to find a job right away ultimately led her to go back to Lousiana after two weeks.
Now where me and Tiff stand is theres a strong possibility that I or this man in Lousiana could be the father of her unborn child. I loved her than and I love her now despite of everything we went through. And I love her now because I made just as many fucked up moves in the relationship she did.
Heisenberg
07-11-2009, 04:07 PM
Unfortunateloy for me, I have never been in love.
I have had alot of past relationships. Some lasting months, the longest I had was two years. Thing is, with all of the girls it was the same feeling. I loved them, but I wasn't IN love with them. I cared about them, and I still do. But not to an extent that I could spend the rest of my life with the.
True love only happens once imo, and I am glad I didn't find mine at my age. I wanna be in my thirties when I find the 'right' woman for me, so it actually has the chance to last. Cause at my age (20) I don't think I am 'mature' enough for THE relationship I want.
I would like a companion though, I haven't had a girlfriend for nearly 2 year. It get's lonely sometimes, thankfully I have friends here for me. But nothing can replace a womans company. :)
Shinigami
07-11-2009, 04:14 PM
I believe wholeheartedly :p in love. But like any other emotion- happiness, sadness, anger, frustration- it seems to me like a temporary feeling that comes and goes. Sometimes it lasts only a few months, sometimes only a season... I've never been able to consistently love someone romantically/intimately for six months straight, much less a year. The feeling always dries up.
Maybe I haven't met the right woman. Maybe my emotions are too spontaneous. Who knows. The romance of true love doesn't really excite me enough to care one way or the other during this time in my life.
Cop No. 633
07-11-2009, 04:20 PM
Wow, that's pretty heavy Highspeed. I don't know what to say other than I hope things get patched up and you find out who the real father is.
I'm currently with somebody I love completely and I don't know if I could ever handle being a situation like that. Love for me is very black and white. If you love me, be with me, if not, leave me be. I can't be in the middle. It's probably why I hate casual dating. I feel it's usually a waste of time. I'm not saying I'm against having flings here and there (if sex is really all you want), but the whole concept of dating for longer than two weeks when the relationship is superficial and not serious boggles my mind. And yet it's a very common practice out here where I live (LA). It's like having coffee without the caffeine. Give me the real deal or none of it at all!
I feel extremely lucky to be with the girl I'm with. It is the perfect relationship for me. We started off as friends last summer. We would hang out and end up talking late into the night until 2 in the morning. We really couldn't get enough of each other. We'd see each other all the time. I think I fell for her first and little by little, we got closer until I finally asked her to come with me to a Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds concert. We are both huge fans. I was planning to break it to her at some point that night but as fate would have it, we ended up kissing the night before the concert. And that was that. We ended up going to the show, which is hands down the best date of our lives. To be at a show with the girl I love and seeing one of my favorite bands of all time with a nice bottle of hard cider. You just can't beat that. To make things even better, the band played Into My Arms from the Boatman's Call which is Sonia's favorite album.
If there ever was a sign that this relationship was made to last, that night was it.
Highspeed
07-11-2009, 04:29 PM
Thats awesome, hope you two go the distance Cosmic. But yeah things are patched up I mean we call each other every chance we get and we get along great still. She tells me constantly how big of a mistake she made leaving and she prays every night the kid is mine. I find myself wishing the same thing because I very much want to be a father, and would love for her to be the mother of my kids. When I talk about how she zigs and zags between me and him it seems crazy that I still feel like this but it it what it is.
Cop No. 633
07-11-2009, 04:46 PM
Well, it's hard to control who you love. It just happens and you can't ignore it. But how would you be sure if you are the father? Is there a noticeable difference between you and the other guy for it to be obvious with the baby?
If you don't want to answer, that's cool. I am intrigued though.
Highspeed
07-11-2009, 04:55 PM
The only thing that makes it possible is the short amount of time between she was with me and him. Because we had sex just about everyday she was here including the last day. And then she had sex with him in a few days of being back there so it created alot of confusion for her. Her due date is somewhere in between early and in the middle of next month I believe, and she was here in October.
BankaiZaraki
07-11-2009, 05:03 PM
Is overrated.The End.
Tweek
07-11-2009, 05:47 PM
Are we talking mutual here...?
I believe wholeheartedly :p in love.
[insert "Oh, I see what you did there!" pic]
;)
Highspeed
07-11-2009, 05:49 PM
I would hope tweek :)
Tagia_Romero
07-11-2009, 06:45 PM
The funny thing about love/caring/adoration is that it's not just limited to what human beings feel for each other. There are all sorts of love and they are all powerful, it depends on how each person interprets and handles it.
Natty
07-11-2009, 08:06 PM
I'm pretty sure I've been in love yes. And of course I love my family.
No relationships yet though...its most likely jealousy but whenever I hear people talk about relationships I simply roll my eyes and think 'that's why I'm not in one' (I think people generally sound snooty and pretentious when talking about their love lives).
I'm sure I'll settle with a nice chick eventually, but the single life is groovy for me at the moment:)
I agree with Tagia too, there are all kinds of love and its not just limited to two human beings.
Crazy Dud
07-11-2009, 08:28 PM
I have both been in love and deeply, genuinely loved those same people. It is to note that REAL love (not just falling in love). Is more than an emotion. If that was true we'd only love our friends and family some of the time, depending on our current emotional state. Love is a state of mind and being that affects your entire life and existence. True love is also evidenced by putting that love into action. It is more than an emotion. It is active. The dictionary lists the word as a VERB for a reason.
MistAh BlistAh
07-11-2009, 08:41 PM
I Truly love Danielle Harris :)
FireCaptain4
07-11-2009, 09:11 PM
I, unfortunately, haven't fallen for anyone yet (except for Rachel McAdams, but that isn't mutual, sadly).
I have, however, dated far too many crazy girls. I don't mean crazy as in "wild, crazy, fun," crazy-- I mean "apeshit, suicidal, dependant, take care of me, calls-you-89-times-in-one-hour (no joke, 89 times)-when-you-don't-pick-up" crazy. I'm speaking about some really batshit ladies.
The first was, really, a girl named Sarah and she was the only stable girlfriend I've ever had. However, this relationship sprung when I was 11 years old. We never really talked except through "letters" and I'm pretty sure this doesn't count.
Then came Erin at the age of 14. Things were fine for a while until I tried (about 4 times until successful) to break up with her. During the first three failed attempts to do so, she broke down and cried in front of everyone in the school cafeteria.
Then comes Amber (biggest bitch on the planet, proud to say). I dated her for nearly three years because I couldn't ever break up with her. I shouldn't have ever gotten involved with her in the first place because my friends (and her friends) gave me warnings, but I didn't listen. She cheated on me on many occasions (a few examples: a massive black guy named Racey, a 28 year-old mechanic, and a kid three years younger than me). By cheating, I mean sex and other... various activities. Whenever I tried to break it off, she threatened to commit suicide if I broke up with her, she made big meltdown-ish scenes in front of her parents that made them concerned and call and blame my parents from raising me as a "hoodlum" (for a hoodlum, I strangely enough did really well in school, was voted Most Intelligent and won a scholarship to go to college... hmmm....). Her parents are a completely different story all together (they live off of welfare, have 8 children, and her mother has had a mouth full of false teeth since she was in her thirties). Anyway, I eventually got rid of her but she tried to play mind games around me. She made a scene at school one day saying that she was waiting for the right time to have sex with her new thug boyfriend, claimed she was a virgin, and that she's never been in love until now. For someone who hadn't had sex, it was strange than the very next day she ended up pregnant. On top of this, her thug boyfriend proposed to her at Prom in the middle of the dance floor.
Anyway, after this ordeal, in college, I had another crazy girlfriend named Chelsea for my Freshman year. After only three months of dating, she told my sister that she was going to stop taking birth control and try and start a family with me. A family. A FAMILY! I was a freshman in college! I broke up with her when my sister came forward with this bit of information. This is the same chick that called me 89 times over the course of one hour while I was sleeping.
Anyway, yeah, never been in love.
adamjohnson
07-11-2009, 10:36 PM
Fuck love.
Banging chicks without commitment is far more enjoyable.
Homyrrh
07-11-2009, 10:52 PM
Just my right hand. Oh, yes.
jolanar
07-12-2009, 12:25 AM
Fuck love.
Banging chicks without commitment is far more enjoyable.
You don't really have a choice when you fall in love with someone.
adamjohnson
07-12-2009, 12:42 AM
You don't really have a choice when you fall in love with someone.
Thats basically a bunch of crap.
FireCaptain4
07-12-2009, 01:01 AM
Just my right hand. Oh, yes.
Never leaves your side and never a single syllable of smack.
Homyrrh
07-12-2009, 01:32 AM
Never leaves your side and never a single syllable of smack.
This is a smart man.
Cenopath
07-12-2009, 01:57 AM
I've never dated in my lifetime. I really don't have any intentions to find a girlfriend or "the perfect someone"; it's just something I don't really care about, nor think about all that much, and I'm not bothered by it at all. There's a lot of things in life that I want to do before falling in love.
Cenopath
07-12-2009, 02:05 AM
True love only happens once imo, and I am glad I didn't find mine at my age. I wanna be in my thirties when I find the 'right' woman for me, so it actually has the chance to last. Cause at my age (20) I don't think I am 'mature' enough for THE relationship I want.
This guy is my hero.
adamjohnson
07-12-2009, 02:17 AM
This guy is my hero.
Who says love happens once?
I think you guys all watch too many damn movies. Love is not a precious thing. We all want to be loved. I love my cat, my family, my chair, and my new t-shirt. And even though I look back and say "I was an idiot" I've been "in love" several times.
But you will never know someone loves you back until after the 2 year mark. That's when the bodies natural pheromones wear off and people get sent packing. This has happened to me at least twice.
If you want to know if you're "in love", just look at the calendar.
Love is not to be put on some pedestal. You can love for a day or for a lifetime. Roll with it. Enjoy it. dont worry if you're "in love" or "if it will last." Just live in the moment. Be in love 1,000 times in your life and dont be afraid to say it.
Bernstein said it best. "A fellow will remember a lot of things you wouldn't think he'd remember. You take me. One day, back in 1896, I was crossing over to Jersey on the ferry, and as we pulled out, there was another ferry pulling in, and on it there was a girl waiting to get off. A white dress she had on. She was carrying a white parasol. I only saw her for one second. She didn't see me at all, but I'll bet a month hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought of that girl. "
That's love.
Tweek
07-12-2009, 02:23 AM
Never leaves your side and never a single syllable of smack.
Watch Evil Dead 2 and then say that. :p
Cenopath
07-12-2009, 02:57 AM
Who says love happens once?
I think you guys all watch too many damn movies. Love is not a precious thing. We all want to be loved. I love my cat, my family, my chair, and my new t-shirt. And even though I look back and say "I was an idiot" I've been "in love" several times.
But you will never know someone loves you back until after the 2 year mark. That's when the bodies natural pheromones wear off and people get sent packing. This has happened to me at least twice.
If you want to know if you're "in love", just look at the calendar.
Love is not to be put on some pedestal. You can love for a day or for a lifetime. Roll with it. Enjoy it. dont worry if you're "in love" or "if it will last." Just live in the moment. Be in love 1,000 times in your life and dont be afraid to say it.
Bernstein said it best. "A fellow will remember a lot of things you wouldn't think he'd remember. You take me. One day, back in 1896, I was crossing over to Jersey on the ferry, and as we pulled out, there was another ferry pulling in, and on it there was a girl waiting to get off. A white dress she had on. She was carrying a white parasol. I only saw her for one second. She didn't see me at all, but I'll bet a month hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought of that girl. "
That's love.
I was agreeing more with his point of taking time to mature a bit before finding love, not his point of finding true love only once.
Mr.HyDe807
07-12-2009, 03:18 AM
I'm more of a "in the moment" type of guy, though my love life isn't all that extraneous. i think it all depends on your mind set at the given time. You could think that love sucks, then want it later on in life. I think that's where I am at this moment in time as a 22 year old college student. I don't want it, yet I do at the same time. I dont want marriage, but think that I would probably want it later on in life.
Ahh well, Love is a crazy little thing!
Natty
07-12-2009, 08:41 AM
If you want to know if you're "in love", just look at the calendar.
Love is not to be put on some pedestal. You can love for a day or for a lifetime. Roll with it. Enjoy it. dont worry if you're "in love" or "if it will last." Just live in the moment. Be in love 1,000 times in your life and dont be afraid to say it.
Bernstein said it best. "A fellow will remember a lot of things you wouldn't think he'd remember. You take me. One day, back in 1896, I was crossing over to Jersey on the ferry, and as we pulled out, there was another ferry pulling in, and on it there was a girl waiting to get off. A white dress she had on. She was carrying a white parasol. I only saw her for one second. She didn't see me at all, but I'll bet a month hasn't gone by since that I haven't thought of that girl. "
That's love.
Much nicer and more truthful than your first post Adam :)
NathanRomano
07-12-2009, 10:01 AM
I've been in and out of love for the past 10 months. Some months are great, others are pure hell. This month is just confusion. I have no idea if she wants to be with me, or if she still loves me. I've made peace with the fact that she doesn't, and hey, if she does, good for me.
The Postmaster General
07-12-2009, 10:47 AM
For me, I guess love is kind of defined as a strong connection I feel with my better half. Sometimes I don't always see it, but it's always there, and it always, always catches me by surprise no matter how many times it had before.
Mr. Fred Krueger
07-12-2009, 01:51 PM
For me, I guess love is kind of defined as a strong connection I feel with my better half.
That's probably one of the best definitions, Bubba.
I found my love over 2 years ago. We actually went to high school together, but didn't really know each other, just of each other. She was actually working at my local Buffalo Wild Wings, and we ran into each other. We caught up on some things, and kept in contact for the next couple of months.
That April, we ran into each other, entirely by chance, at Ohio State University. And that's a pretty big fucking school. We arranged a couple of lunch dates, and then went out on a real date (we went to see Grindhouse--strange, I know! ;) ). We had our first kiss, and it really was like fireworks. We had the physical connection, and we all ready knew about our connection personality wise (you'll never meet two goofier people who can have an entire conversation from Simpsons quotes ;) ).
And after that, it's all she wrote. I really think God, in his infinite wisdom, was bringing us together. The lonely dope who was about to give up (me), and the pretty girl who had gone through too much relationship wise, and just didn't think it was ever going to work out for her. And for that, I'm forever grateful.
Now, it's been two years. I proposed to her in December (about a week before my birthday), and we're getting married in just over a month (August 15th is the big day!). I really couldn't be happier or more content in my life than I am now. :)
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2063/184/37/12427994/n12427994_46633523_9993.jpg
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-12-2009, 02:16 PM
Love sucks. Basically there's a girl right now that I would say I love, but she doesn't even like me. We were somewhat friends last year, but haven't talked in months. I'm pretty sure I'd never have a chance, but I dunno.
If it counts for much I love most of my family, and my best-friend.
BakeTheMooCow
07-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Mr. Fred Krueger, that is a great story. Congrats and good luck. You both look really happy in that pic.
countchocula
07-12-2009, 03:22 PM
I could rip this thread in half and piss all over it, but I won't. I realize that I'm not the only one who has been murdered. Repeatedly. Still, there isn't enough bandwidth here for me to tell a story.
I do believe that the soul is incomplete until you've experienced true love.
drc5145
07-12-2009, 04:23 PM
Can't really say I've had much experience in my life time.
Being 19, I've only had of really, 1 case so far of falling in love. The only problem was that she was taken, yet I still wanted her. It took a few years to get over her and I really havn't had much else since. The only other person I've got my eye on is a co-worker at my work.
Part of it doesn't help in that most of my best friends, have had either sour relationships or they simply crashed and burned, including my best friend, who ended up getting cheated on repeatedly, and did not find out until 2 months after they broke up and had some stupid drama get dragged out.
Experiencing love from a significant other can be a wonderful thing...it's a lot of the shit in between (Finding it, Dealing with it after it's over) is the pain in the ass.
jdparker
07-12-2009, 06:39 PM
Love sucks. Basically there's a girl right now that I would say I love, but she doesn't even like me. We were somewhat friends last year, but haven't talked in months. I'm pretty sure I'd never have a chance, but I dunno.
You should start talking to her again. Just play it cool.
countchocula
07-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Yeah, high school girls are fucking flighty. She'll like you again sooner or later. If she's with someone, just wait it out. They'll break up at some point.
Mr. Fred Krueger
07-12-2009, 06:53 PM
Mr. Fred Krueger, that is a great story. Congrats and good luck. You both look really happy in that pic.
Thanks, Bake! :) Yeah, I definitely couldn't be happier, and I always love telling that story.
Jon Lyrik
07-12-2009, 08:10 PM
I'm in the process of turning myself into an asexual god.
Crazy Dud
07-13-2009, 02:37 AM
I'm in the process of turning myself into an asexual god.
Brilliant!
FLAME_ON
07-13-2009, 03:24 AM
Like most things in life, I think it depends on what kind of house you grew up in... Myself for example; broken home, loads of drama, have no memory of my parents being affectionate... my idea of "love" is finding someone with the least amount of risk.
My brush with love was a 2 year relationship that ended in with my better half drunk at a party without me, getting molested--willingly--by 3 guys.
These days, I prefer to be single.
BankaiZaraki
07-13-2009, 06:20 PM
I, unfortunately, haven't fallen for anyone yet (except for Rachel McAdams, but that isn't mutual, sadly).
I have, however, dated far too many crazy girls. I don't mean crazy as in "wild, crazy, fun," crazy-- I mean "apeshit, suicidal, dependant, take care of me, calls-you-89-times-in-one-hour (no joke, 89 times)-when-you-don't-pick-up" crazy. I'm speaking about some really batshit ladies.
The first was, really, a girl named Sarah and she was the only stable girlfriend I've ever had. However, this relationship sprung when I was 11 years old. We never really talked except through "letters" and I'm pretty sure this doesn't count.
Then came Erin at the age of 14. Things were fine for a while until I tried (about 4 times until successful) to break up with her. During the first three failed attempts to do so, she broke down and cried in front of everyone in the school cafeteria.
Then comes Amber (biggest bitch on the planet, proud to say). I dated her for nearly three years because I couldn't ever break up with her. I shouldn't have ever gotten involved with her in the first place because my friends (and her friends) gave me warnings, but I didn't listen. She cheated on me on many occasions (a few examples: a massive black guy named Racey, a 28 year-old mechanic, and a kid three years younger than me). By cheating, I mean sex and other... various activities. Whenever I tried to break it off, she threatened to commit suicide if I broke up with her, she made big meltdown-ish scenes in front of her parents that made them concerned and call and blame my parents from raising me as a "hoodlum" (for a hoodlum, I strangely enough dig really well in school, was voted Most Intelligent and won a scholarship to go to college... hmmm....). Her parents are a completely different story all together (they live off of welfare, have 8 children, and her mother has had a mouth full of false teeth since she was in her thirties). Anyway, I eventually got rid of her but she tried to play mind games around me. She made a scene at school one day saying that she was waiting for the right time to have sex with her new thug boyfriend, claimed she was a virgin, and that she's never been in love until now. For someone who hadn't had sex, it was strange than the very next day she ended up pregnant. On top of this, her thug boyfriend proposed to her at Prom in the middle of the dance floor.
Anyway, after this ordeal, in college, I had another crazy girlfriend named Chelsea for my Freshman year. After only three months of dating, she told my sister that she was going to stop taking birth control and try and start a family with me. A family. A FAMILY! I was a freshman in college! I broke up with her when my sister came forward with this bit of information. This is the same chick that called me 89 times over the course of one hour while I was sleeping.
Anyway, yeah, never been in love.
*pats back* Im sorry man..
Crazy Dud
07-13-2009, 08:53 PM
Like most things in life, I think it depends on what kind of house you grew up in... Myself for example; broken home, loads of drama, have no memory of my parents being affectionate... my idea of "love" is finding someone with the least amount of risk.
My brush with love was a 2 year relationship that ended in with my better half drunk at a party without me, getting molested--willingly--by 3 guys.
These days, I prefer to be single.
Damn, dude! I truly am sorry. :(
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-16-2009, 11:01 PM
Love sucks. Basically there's a girl right now that I would say I love, but she doesn't even like me. We were somewhat friends last year, but haven't talked in months. I'm pretty sure I'd never have a chance, but I dunno.
If it counts for much I love most of my family, and my best-friend.
Just found out she's taken...
Fuck, :mad:
Tweek
07-16-2009, 11:24 PM
Just found out she's taken...
Fuck, :mad:
"...I'm not gonna say, you know, there's plenty more fish in the sea. I'm not going to say if you love her, let her go. And I'm not going to bombard you with cliches. But what I will say is this...It's not the end of the world."
zombievictim
07-16-2009, 11:41 PM
Thank God for Mr. Fred Krueger because otherwise this thread is just depressing.
I wish I could help with bringing up the happy, but that just doesn't seem to be happening. I may divulge a sad story but I'm debating.
zombievictim
07-17-2009, 12:26 AM
Aww BadCoverVersion why'd you delete it? That was sweet as all hell.
Tweek
07-17-2009, 12:43 AM
Aww BadCoverVersion why'd you delete it? That was sweet as all hell.
Yeah, it's not like you and the boyfriend are a secret 'round here. :p It was very sweet, anyway.
zombievictim
07-17-2009, 12:51 AM
True. Everyone knows about BCV and myself. Then there's that clown Roy L Dennis who likes to take all the credit...
echo_bravo
07-17-2009, 10:59 AM
Good thread!
I have dated plenty of girls but I have only told one I loved her. She was great and we dated for a couple of years but she was wanting marriage and possibly kids. That kinda scared me off (I was only 23 at the time) and I had to end it.
Then I met this great girl right after I broke up with my previous girl. I really didnt want to get into a relationship right after my break up but I couldnt pass it up! We were really into eachother but she ended up taking a job in Europe and had to move. It sucked but I completely understood because her career was important to her. Havent talked to her in forever. She is probably getting banged by Orlando Bloom for all I know.:(
Donnie_Darko
07-17-2009, 11:14 AM
Devin Townsend put it best:
Love? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeG-6bpeUkA)
(Fuck it!)
(There's no external way to tell when a woman is ready to recieve)
MARCH!!!
LOVE... is a way of feeling
LOVE is a way of feeling less alone
So what's all the fuss about?!?
"FUCK IT"
LOVE: the paradox of needing
OH LOVE,
MAKE WAY FOR BREEDING
GIVE IT TO ME! GIVE IT TO ME!
FUCK YOU AND YOUR TALK OF LOVE!
I know what I stand for; I STAND FOR ME!!!
I'll wait for the night to come
So far, suicide at home
For I'm not the man you know
This love it's about control
OH WHAT A FEELING!!!!!
OH WHAT A FEEDING!!!!!
Know the chosen ones ARE HERE!
ALL HAIL!!! ...SHIT
(FUCK IT!)
I'll wait for the night to come
So far, suicide at home
For I'm not the man you know...
This love, IS ABOUT CONTROL
YOU FUCKERS!
ALL IN THE NAME OF LOVE
ALL IN THE NAME OF LOVE
ALL IN THE NAME OF LOVE
Ahh... I love that song. :D
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-17-2009, 09:58 PM
Thank God for Mr. Fred Krueger because otherwise this thread is just depressing.
I wish I could help with bringing up the happy, but that just doesn't seem to be happening. I may divulge a sad story but I'm debating.
Love itself is depressing...
Tweek
07-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Love itself is depressing...
Eh, it doesn't have to be but a lot of times, yes.
I dunno. I think there are a lot of people who have unrealistic ideas of what love is... There are still people who believe in a One True Love. There are people who get bent out of shape over their relationship being over after one fight. There are people who put their partners up on some pedestal for some stupid reason...
Humans are imperfect and so is love.
I hope the previous post didn't make me sound like a cunt. :)
jackson13
07-17-2009, 10:49 PM
Oh God, here we go.....
I felt love one time in my life. It was 6 years ago when I was 19. I know, I know, all the naysayers will come in and tell me I was too young to know what love was/is. Bite me. I've heard it all before.
I met Lindsay (yes, I'm actually using her real name here) online when I was 15 and she 14. She lived in a town 30 minutes East of me, and we began a typical "online" relationship as all kids have at least once. Only, we also took it to letters (now referred to as snail mail) and phone conversations. Finally we worked it to where we could meet, which was insanely hard because neither of us could drive. By the time we met I was 16, but not driving yet. She had a friend whos father was divorced and lived in my town, and on a weekend she came to visit her dad, Lindsay came with, and we made a date to go to our towns only theater and see 'Gone in 60 Seconds'. Her friend came along, but thankfully allowed us to sit by ourselves. By the end of the movie, we had "made out" so much I honestly had to go see the movie a second time to know what it was about. Living in a small town like mine there really was nothing better to do than go to the movies and make out as a kid. Once our date was over, I walked home since I lived 3 blocks up the street and we continued our online relationship. Finally the time came when I got my license, and then things between us got rough. I think the availability issue ruined it. She used the "its not you its me" routine and began to see other guys, ones who lived in her town. I used the "well fuck you bitch" guy routine and dated girls in my own town.
But then, about a year and a half later, she called me out of the blue. She was in my town again, and by god it was New Years Eve and she was going to a party at my towns skating rink. One of those "pay $15, we lock you in and treat you like a prisoner for the night" events. Looking back, I'm not sure what the fun was, but, I did ring in the new years with my (former) first official girlfriend. We were back together immediately. I drove over to her place all the time (she didnt drive) and we went out every weekend and spent most every weekend nights together (we both had school, and as soon as school was over for me, I had a job). We continued this until she was finally graduating, the 2 of us out on our own in the big world. I got too excited, admittedly. 2 weeks after she graduated, I let the word slip that I had been ring shopping. I was madly in love, even at 19, her 18. I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. She took the news very well, extremely happy that I had done so (ring shopping).
Then I noticed things started to turn rather quickly. It was routine of ours to go to a movie then back to her place. We saw 'The Ring' together, though I forced her because I absolutely flat out refused to go see 'Sweet Home Alabama'. 5 minutes into the movie, of which she's seen none of already because she's had her head buried in my shoulder, too afraid to watch, the girl in the closet is revealed, and she actually sees this part, and proceeds to haul right off and slap me right in the face, in front of a packed theater (we were sitting in like the 3rd row). She storms out, I follow while getting laughed at by strangers, she apologizes and calms me down because I was beyond pissed, I apologize myself for forcing her to see a scary movie when I know she hates them, and we are golden until the next weekend.
We go see 'Solaris'. I'm a Clooney fan, her too, Soderbergh directed, I'm excited, her too....then some guy walks into the theater and she freaks out, literally burying her head in my lap to hide herself. I ask her what he deal is, all while people stare at me since it seemed I was getting head well before even the previews began, and she tells me "thats pete, we dated for awhile, i dont want him to see me". Lucky me, the motherfucker walks right past us, sees her, says hello to her, introduces himself to me, and sits a couple rows behind us. Movie starts, we get into it, nothing more is said. As we walk out, Pete (again, real name here) walks past us with his girl, says 'good seeing you, Linds' then turns to me and literally winks as he says "and it was good to meet you too, Nathan". I ask her what his problem is, she says 'nothing, he's just a dick, he was like that when I dated him while we were broken up' so I let it go. We go back to her place, yada yada.
Couple months later, on the very night before I intend to pop the question, her friend (whose father lives in my town) calls me and tells me to meet her so we can talk. Its urgent. I agree. She never shows up, so I call her and ask her what the fuck her problem is for not meeting me and she tells me "Im sorry, I thought about it, I couldn't tell you this in person". Im immediately nervous.
She proceeds to tell me that she and Lindsay aren't even on speaking terms anymore but that she always liked me and liked that I took care of Lindsay as well as I did when we were together. She knew I was a good guy, all of that stuff, and thats why it was so hard to tell me. Lindsay was cheating on me, and had been for quite awhile. Pete wasnt some guy she dated when we broke up earlier in life, he was a guy she was banging regularly while we were dating, now. And there were many others. Her friend, Kristine, also told me of a "last week of the school year big blowout party" that damn near everyone at their school attended, where she witnessed Lindsay go into a bedroom with not 1, not 2, but 3 guys. At the same time. They didnt emerge for a long time. I, of course, called Kristine a lying bitch for saying such things about my girlfriend/soon-to-hopefully-be fiance and promptly call Lindsay, asking for verification.
She instantly bursts into tears over the phone. Stories verified. I chewed her out for hours, told her what a mistake she had made, all that stuff. She cried and cried and tried to apologize, even though I knew she didnt mean it. I hung up, went into a funk for months (literally months), and then the mind-games started.
I got a phone call at 2am one night from my best friend. It was him laughing, and then a girl laughing, then hanging up. So I called back. Lindsay fucking answered. She was at his place, getting banged silly. So silly, she convinced him to turn on me and call me making fun of me, hence the phone call (in the years we had dated, while we had done everything else, we had honestly never had sex, for fear of getting caught by her parents). Moving on from him, she nailed then became the girlfriend of the only guy I ever got into a fight with in life. A guy I'd always hated, even after I kicked his ass in 7th grade in front of the entire playground. For almost 2 years I would randomly see her around my town, with him, smiling and laughing each time she saw me.....
Now I'm 25, single, and utterly alone. Her? I've no idea where she's gone too. The douchebag she dated for so long is now married with kids, and is long done with her. My former best friend and I are back to being friends, but he is no longer a best. In fact, I hardly ever hear from him unless he is going out drinking and has no one else to call and come join him. But me? Oh, me...I've been single ever since I was 19. I can't look at women the same. I dont trust people anymore. Anytime a girl is interested in me, I either try too hard, trying to get back what I once had, that I flat out blow it, or I actually self-sabotage it, afraid of what happened in the past will happen again. I haven't spoken to her in 6 years, yet she continues to ruin my life every day.
So love? Fuck love. All it ever did for me was ruin my entire life.
Also, final note, I find it incredibly odd and mocking that itunes picks "Careless Whisper" as I finish typing this story. "I'm never gonna dance again.....so I'm never gonna dance again, the way I danced with you...." indeed.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 02:25 PM
*Sigh
People are horrible, I'm sorry to hear 'bout that, Jackson13. :( I have my own story about the girl I was Posting about on here, but I'll have to tell it later, since my brother and mother are in the room and have tendencies to sneak peeks at the screen every now and again, but I'll definitely have time tonight...even though I'm a little weary about posting it online...:( :( :(
BadCoverVersion
07-18-2009, 02:41 PM
Aww BadCoverVersion why'd you delete it? That was sweet as all hell.
True. Everyone knows about BCV and myself. Then there's that clown Roy L Dennis who likes to take all the credit...
Ha ha.
I re-read and thought I sounded like a gushy sap. I will be sure to come here next time I've had a couple of glasses of wine and gush like only a drunk woman can.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 06:33 PM
I hope the previous post didn't make me sound like a cunt. :)
Well it did. :mad:
;)
Natty
07-18-2009, 06:51 PM
jackson13...Whoa.
Thanks for being honest and sharing that interesting slice of life, all I can say is a useless 'I feel for you man'. Yeah its wierd that some of these experiences totally change the way you see women, I know what you mean in that sense.
:(
MidnightAngel
07-18-2009, 06:54 PM
I agree with Tagia too, there are all kinds of love and its not just limited to two human beings.
Unfortunately that's how today's stereotypes describe love. If i don't date i'm a loser/loner/queer/etc. Love stinks and also my brothers.One of them is married and the older with his 1 year girlfriend. I'm the only one who's a heterosexual without partner. Love stinks!
MidnightAngel
07-18-2009, 06:55 PM
Fuck love.
Banging chicks without commitment is far more enjoyable.
:D
countchocula
07-18-2009, 07:00 PM
You guys need to stop posting stories and supporting each other. You don't want me to start sharing. The thread would cave in on itself. Thankfully, I don't feel comfortable enough to actually share anything.
G1nger, since you're in high school, my advice is to be aggressive and tell her whatever you want to. Don't take anything too seriously and enjoy the chase. :cool:
Tweek
07-18-2009, 07:05 PM
You guys need to stop posting stories and supporting each other. You don't want me to start sharing. The thread would cave in on itself. Thankfully, I don't feel comfortable enough to actually share anything
I have yet to come across an adult who doesn't have a tale or two of heartbreak...Well, my parents actually. But they were not allowed to date and were an arranged marriage. So um... Other than them, I guess...
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 07:48 PM
You guys need to stop posting stories and supporting each other. You don't want me to start sharing. The thread would cave in on itself. Thankfully, I don't feel comfortable enough to actually share anything.
G1nger, since you're in high school, my advice is to be aggressive and tell her whatever you want to. Don't take anything too seriously and enjoy the chase. :cool:
Do it, Count. :D
Ha, I wish it was that easy, I REALLY do. :)
Shinigami
07-18-2009, 08:06 PM
Look at it this way Jackson13^.
If you fell so hard for that sleeparound rag (and you don't mind me calling your one-time love a sleeparound rag), imagine how awesome it's going to be when you actually meet a really nice girl. It'll be 10x better. You sound damaged by the whole experience, but not too damaged. There are always people on the lookout for broken hearts in need of mending. Sappy but true.
I'm gonna tell you a story that'll add some levity to the thread. It's about this time I got royally fucked over for being too nice. I have a saint complex. I'm always trying to help people out whenever I can. This is the one time I got bit in the ass for being so High and Mighty. Read on...
I've known a few girls who always left trails of destruction in their Relationship Wake. Their ex boyfriends stopped dating period, flipped a switch into depressed-forever mode, and so on down heartbreak lane. Girls with bitch reputations.
I was reunited with one of those girls in 2008. She had gained weight, started chain smoking, and generally seemed very stressed out and frustrated with the way she'd lived her life. Since I'd never dated her personally I had no vendetta against her, so I felt bad and did my best trying to help her out.
I hadn't seen her in awhile. When last we met, we were both attracted to each other. But I wasn't attracted to her anymore, so it was awkward. I'm superficial. And cuz I'm also a huge pussy with blowing people off I tried to dance around the obvious by lying about why I wouldn't be intimate with her (ie "I just got out of a really bad relationship and don't want to rush into anything right now", or maybe that I was sexually shy, sexually vulnerable, even sexually uptight, whatever I could think up). We hadn't known each other for a long time and I could make up anything. I did so because I always thought she was a good girl with a lot of destructive tendencies and I wanted to help her out. I always try to help people out when I get the chance. I should have known better than to take her for some poor broken animal by the side of the road I could take home and tend to. But I didn't, cuz I'm arrogant.
I bent over backwards (sometimes at cost to my own self respect) trying to be supportive of her, while at the same time dodging her moves to be more intimate. Admittedly I felt shitty about this whole dance because it seemed that I was making things worse for her. Nobody wants to feel unattractive, and I think she knew deep down why I was avoiding her sexually. Here was this poor girl who'd just broken up with some boyfriend, felt self-conscious, wasn't where she wanted to be in life, had this whole line of rejected and angry ex boyfriends glaring at her whenever they passed by, and now had to deal with this pussy who doesn't have the guts to firmly tell her that he isn't romantically interested in her. This made me feel like crap. I felt so bad, in fact, that I started putting in a lot of effort to try to improve her situation.
I meant it^ when I said that I thought she was a good girl who just made bad decisions. I wanted her to get back on her feet. I've said it before and I'll say it again: to me she was that poor broken animal by the side of the road.
Then I realized she hadn't actually broken up with her boyfriend. They'd been having some problems in their relationship, and took a break while he visited some family wedding out of state. When I learned of this I decided to try helping her get back together with him. I could smooth over any rough patches in their relationship. That way I wouldn't have to tell her off, and she wouldn't have to get her feelings hurt. I'm still Christlike.
Then I realized she was having sex with somebody else. She'd been having sex with him well before she met me (she had cheated on this other, older boyfriend of hers). When I learned of this I decided "Fuck it! I'll just try helping her be comfortable with her loose behavior." I told her that there was nothing wrong with not being able to commit to a relationship. She was still young, and she shouldn't beat herself up if she couldn't stay with one guy for very long.
Then I realized she was having sex with somebody else else as well, which means she was cheating on both of the other boyfriends. It's at this point I'm contemplating whether she's actually a good girl at all, but I stay my course because I'm determined to be a heaven-sent angel.
Then I realized she'd been making fun of me to all three of them for the entire time. She had been cracking jokes that I was sexually uptight, vulnerable, or even impotent!
OWNED
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 08:36 PM
Ooh...sorry to hear that, man, however lame that sounds of me to say. :o
Shinigami
07-18-2009, 08:49 PM
It's supposed to be funny dude. :D I still talk to that girl^ and we're not on bad terms. It's what I get for underestimating women. The joke was how she didn't turn out to be some helpless little girl who needed Jesus Christ here to pick her back up.
Tweek
07-18-2009, 08:51 PM
Dude, you weren't royally fucked over for being too nice. You were royally fucked over for making poor choices. Plus it sure sounds like she didn't need any help in feeling more attractive. lol
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 08:53 PM
*Post deleted for violating Forum terms.
Like FireCaptain said, i have dated one too many crazy bitches.
For the most part i steer clear of relationships because i saw how it was in highschool--pointless, almost-publicity stunt relationships
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Not to say i have dated some girls. When i worked at this grocery store i dated several girls there, one ended up being super crazy. biggest pain in the ass to break up with. she made a huge fit while we were all on the clock and blah-de-bah de blah. She just was not my type and i just felt like having sex with her.
So...naturally i had the next relationship coming for me. I did not love her, but i liked her more than any other girl i have in the past. it was very smooth for a few months then ATTACK OF THE EX-BOYFRIEND. he started talking about how hes changed and reminding her of old times(stupid fucking trick). She says she dont know if she was right for me. i flipped my shit and got pissed wondering why all of a sudden she was thinking this(because it had been going great). i told her that i was not going to take her back...blah de bah. then she came crawling back to me eventually pleading sorry and all that junk, the ex was just messing with her, because he was a douche. So i did take her back, because well, i liked her. Went smoothly for another few WEEKS until all of a sudden she dropped me for some other guy. wtf.
So im single again and rolling right along, there is this girl i like at the moment. well i have always liked her since middle school, and we are still good friends. i just am too much of a pussy to make a move because she just broke up with her boyfriend(who happens to me one of my friends) and i cant tell if they moved on yet or not. Dear god i wanna to make a move though.
Shinigami
07-18-2009, 09:18 PM
That's sweet g1ng3rsnap9ed^. I dunno if I'm comfortable with the way you handled it, but I don't have to be because it's not my situation. Don't take thing so personally, maybe. If someone put as much pressure on me as you did on her, I'd get uncomfortable too and give that someone the silent treatment. It's nothing against that person. It's just an uncomfortable thing for people of any age to have to deal with such powerful emotions.
I've known plenty of girls who are needy in your way and dramatic in your way, and I've also known plenty of guys who are too. It's a good sign that you're comfortable enough to post it online cuz you should be. It's not weird. As long as you don't leave her a bloody suicide note or go after her with a gun so that you two can leave together forever in death's sweet embrace... it's not anything to feel so nervous about. One of these days you might look back on this time and be impressed with how emotional and passionate you felt during it.
i just am too much of a pussy to make a move because she just broke up with her boyfriend(who happens to me one of my friends) and i cant tell if they moved on yet or not. Dear god i wanna to make a move though.
Let's hear it for pussies! :D ;)
Tweek
07-18-2009, 09:21 PM
Let's hear it for pussies! :D ;)
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Hip hip hurray!
Shinigami
07-18-2009, 09:27 PM
btw is there anybody here who is a stud/babe with romance? So far all of us guys are either pussies with this or that, or so unlucky in love that we deserve a personal apology from God.
Joblo.com's men are very sensitive. You ladies are lucky. We're in touch with our feelings.
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john_rambo
07-18-2009, 10:15 PM
I am a pussy who has become somewhat less pussified in the last year or so and am working on my lack of a love life. I just wrote that to make you guys feel bad for me so I hope you do.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-18-2009, 10:16 PM
That's sweet g1ng3rsnap9ed^. I dunno if I'm comfortable with the way you handled it, but I don't have to be because it's not my situation. Don't take thing so personally, maybe. If someone put as much pressure on me as you did on her, I'd get uncomfortable too and give that someone the silent treatment. It's nothing against that person. It's just an uncomfortable thing for people of any age to have to deal with such powerful emotions.
I've known plenty of girls who are needy in your way and dramatic in your way, and I've also known plenty of guys who are too. It's a good sign that you're comfortable enough to post it online cuz you should be. It's not weird. As long as you don't leave her a bloody suicide note or go after her with a gun so that you two can leave together forever in death's sweet embrace... it's not anything to feel so nervous about. One of these days you might look back on this time and be impressed with how emotional and passionate you felt during it.
Let's hear it for pussies! :D ;)
Yeah, but when pretty much all I wrote was that I've been feeling REALLY down and would like to talk, I don't think that's too pressuring...but maybe I'm wrong. :confused: There won't be any suicide note though...at least not one that's already written. ;)
Wait...are you calling me a pussy? :D
BadCoverVersion
07-19-2009, 04:58 AM
btw is there anybody here who is a stud/babe with romance? So far all of us guys are either pussies with this or that, or so unlucky in love that we deserve a personal apology from God.
I think Lysander had it right when he said that the course of love - true or otherwise - never did run smooth.
I think real love TENDS to happen when you're slightly older and your expectations are a little more realistic. You have to be ready for it...mentally and emotionally. You also have to be willing to totally be yourself. These relationships when you pander to one another and fear disagreements never work. There's got to be a little fire there...a little bit of contention and room to learn from one another.
I am in a relationship with a wonderful person now...but my last relationship ended just horribly. I don't wish to elaborate because it's a period of my life that I've boxed away permanently for the sake of my own sanity...and it's simply not appropriate for this thread, or the boards in general.
Natty
07-19-2009, 08:09 AM
Then I realized she'd been making fun of me to all three of them for the entire time. She had been cracking jokes that I was sexually uptight, vulnerable, or even impotent!
OWNED
Classic.
Natty
07-19-2009, 08:27 AM
gingersnapped.
Very touching story, but I agree with Shinigami in that I don't think you're are handling it in the right way, cutting yourself is never good.
I don't think you were putting too much pressure on her with the note explaining how you wanted to talk, however, chicks just feel uncomfortable when presented with such situations (excuse the sexism female schmoes). I have been happy to talk through people's emotional and sexual problems with them, doing so simply because I want them to feel like they can talk to someone, because talking to anyone else would make that other person 'freaked out'...whereas in my vanity I would say I'm more understanding.
I won't tell you to 'get over it' or any bullshit phrases like that, but the best advice I would give is to perhaps focus on improving personal happiness (like your writing), rather than a love life.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-19-2009, 11:48 AM
gingersnapped.
Very touching story, but I agree with Shinigami in that I don't think you're are handling it in the right way, cutting yourself is never good.
I don't think you were putting too much pressure on her with the note explaining how you wanted to talk, however, chicks just feel uncomfortable when presented with such situations (excuse the sexism female schmoes). I have been happy to talk through people's emotional and sexual problems with them, doing so simply because I want them to feel like they can talk to someone, because talking to anyone else would make that other person 'freaked out'...whereas in my vanity I would say I'm more understanding.
I won't tell you to 'get over it' or any bullshit phrases like that, but the best advice I would give is to perhaps focus on improving personal happiness (like your writing), rather than a love life.
I know the cutting isn't good, but it helps me cope...and I only do it when I really feel like I need to. It is definitely not a regular thing for me to do...like I said, I've only done like 7 cuts in the last three months since I started. It is still a poor choice on my part, I know. :(
I honestly dunno why she didn't respond, that's what bothers me the most. And I agree with Shinigami that it probably wasn't anything personal (I hope...) but in all reality a simple "fuck you" would have been much better in comparison.
Maybe I should start focusing on my personal happiness, but I'm pretty sure that's shot. I now hate myself, hate God, hate most other people in my life, it's ironic because I've sorta become the exact opposite of all the reasons why I feel like I love "her."...And that scares me, because I don't want to be so hateful, but that's just the way I'm becoming...
It's also sorta ironic that you brought up my writing 'cause she asked me to write a story last year for her (she didn't care what it was about, so long as it wasn't horror), and of course I did. I was about half-way through when she said she wanted to be a character in it, sure, I said. Then I had to scrap the story b/c my description of her would seem too "flattering" or "suck-uppy," and started a new one...called Brighter. The first line was "Grace Ditty was an angel." Grace Ditty was the cousin of Clover in a Clockwork in the Stars, in which Clover's mother was attending her funeral, and she shows up later on in the novel as an angel. (Sorta side-tracked, I know. I'll get back on topic now: ) But I never put "her" in the story because of all the nice things I wrote about her, but I used the character of Grace to do so for me...and I could definitely call her an angel. :)
echo_bravo
07-19-2009, 01:03 PM
Oh God, here we go.....
I felt love one time in my life. It was 6 years ago when I was 19. I know, I know, all the naysayers will come in and tell me I was too young to know what love was/is. Bite me. I've heard it all before.
I met Lindsay (yes, I'm actually using her real name here) online when I was 15 and she 14. She lived in a town 30 minutes East of me, and we began a typical "online" relationship as all kids have at least once. Only, we also took it to letters (now referred to as snail mail) and phone conversations. Finally we worked it to where we could meet, which was insanely hard because neither of us could drive. By the time we met I was 16, but not driving yet. She had a friend whos father was divorced and lived in my town, and on a weekend she came to visit her dad, Lindsay came with, and we made a date to go to our towns only theater and see 'Gone in 60 Seconds'. Her friend came along, but thankfully allowed us to sit by ourselves. By the end of the movie, we had "made out" so much I honestly had to go see the movie a second time to know what it was about. Living in a small town like mine there really was nothing better to do than go to the movies and make out as a kid. Once our date was over, I walked home since I lived 3 blocks up the street and we continued our online relationship. Finally the time came when I got my license, and then things between us got rough. I think the availability issue ruined it. She used the "its not you its me" routine and began to see other guys, ones who lived in her town. I used the "well fuck you bitch" guy routine and dated girls in my own town.
But then, about a year and a half later, she called me out of the blue. She was in my town again, and by god it was New Years Eve and she was going to a party at my towns skating rink. One of those "pay $15, we lock you in and treat you like a prisoner for the night" events. Looking back, I'm not sure what the fun was, but, I did ring in the new years with my (former) first official girlfriend. We were back together immediately. I drove over to her place all the time (she didnt drive) and we went out every weekend and spent most every weekend nights together (we both had school, and as soon as school was over for me, I had a job). We continued this until she was finally graduating, the 2 of us out on our own in the big world. I got too excited, admittedly. 2 weeks after she graduated, I let the word slip that I had been ring shopping. I was madly in love, even at 19, her 18. I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. She took the news very well, extremely happy that I had done so (ring shopping).
Then I noticed things started to turn rather quickly. It was routine of ours to go to a movie then back to her place. We saw 'The Ring' together, though I forced her because I absolutely flat out refused to go see 'Sweet Home Alabama'. 5 minutes into the movie, of which she's seen none of already because she's had her head buried in my shoulder, too afraid to watch, the girl in the closet is revealed, and she actually sees this part, and proceeds to haul right off and slap me right in the face, in front of a packed theater (we were sitting in like the 3rd row). She storms out, I follow while getting laughed at by strangers, she apologizes and calms me down because I was beyond pissed, I apologize myself for forcing her to see a scary movie when I know she hates them, and we are golden until the next weekend.
We go see 'Solaris'. I'm a Clooney fan, her too, Soderbergh directed, I'm excited, her too....then some guy walks into the theater and she freaks out, literally burying her head in my lap to hide herself. I ask her what he deal is, all while people stare at me since it seemed I was getting head well before even the previews began, and she tells me "thats pete, we dated for awhile, i dont want him to see me". Lucky me, the motherfucker walks right past us, sees her, says hello to her, introduces himself to me, and sits a couple rows behind us. Movie starts, we get into it, nothing more is said. As we walk out, Pete (again, real name here) walks past us with his girl, says 'good seeing you, Linds' then turns to me and literally winks as he says "and it was good to meet you too, Nathan". I ask her what his problem is, she says 'nothing, he's just a dick, he was like that when I dated him while we were broken up' so I let it go. We go back to her place, yada yada.
Couple months later, on the very night before I intend to pop the question, her friend (whose father lives in my town) calls me and tells me to meet her so we can talk. Its urgent. I agree. She never shows up, so I call her and ask her what the fuck her problem is for not meeting me and she tells me "Im sorry, I thought about it, I couldn't tell you this in person". Im immediately nervous.
She proceeds to tell me that she and Lindsay aren't even on speaking terms anymore but that she always liked me and liked that I took care of Lindsay as well as I did when we were together. She knew I was a good guy, all of that stuff, and thats why it was so hard to tell me. Lindsay was cheating on me, and had been for quite awhile. Pete wasnt some guy she dated when we broke up earlier in life, he was a guy she was banging regularly while we were dating, now. And there were many others. Her friend, Kristine, also told me of a "last week of the school year big blowout party" that damn near everyone at their school attended, where she witnessed Lindsay go into a bedroom with not 1, not 2, but 3 guys. At the same time. They didnt emerge for a long time. I, of course, called Kristine a lying bitch for saying such things about my girlfriend/soon-to-hopefully-be fiance and promptly call Lindsay, asking for verification.
She instantly bursts into tears over the phone. Stories verified. I chewed her out for hours, told her what a mistake she had made, all that stuff. She cried and cried and tried to apologize, even though I knew she didnt mean it. I hung up, went into a funk for months (literally months), and then the mind-games started.
I got a phone call at 2am one night from my best friend. It was him laughing, and then a girl laughing, then hanging up. So I called back. Lindsay fucking answered. She was at his place, getting banged silly. So silly, she convinced him to turn on me and call me making fun of me, hence the phone call (in the years we had dated, while we had done everything else, we had honestly never had sex, for fear of getting caught by her parents). Moving on from him, she nailed then became the girlfriend of the only guy I ever got into a fight with in life. A guy I'd always hated, even after I kicked his ass in 7th grade in front of the entire playground. For almost 2 years I would randomly see her around my town, with him, smiling and laughing each time she saw me.....
Now I'm 25, single, and utterly alone. Her? I've no idea where she's gone too. The douchebag she dated for so long is now married with kids, and is long done with her. My former best friend and I are back to being friends, but he is no longer a best. In fact, I hardly ever hear from him unless he is going out drinking and has no one else to call and come join him. But me? Oh, me...I've been single ever since I was 19. I can't look at women the same. I dont trust people anymore. Anytime a girl is interested in me, I either try too hard, trying to get back what I once had, that I flat out blow it, or I actually self-sabotage it, afraid of what happened in the past will happen again. I haven't spoken to her in 6 years, yet she continues to ruin my life every day.
So love? Fuck love. All it ever did for me was ruin my entire life.
Also, final note, I find it incredibly odd and mocking that itunes picks "Careless Whisper" as I finish typing this story. "I'm never gonna dance again.....so I'm never gonna dance again, the way I danced with you...." indeed.
WOW:eek:
I am sorry to hear about all that Jackson13.
But you really need to look at this in a positive way.
You are still ridiculously young. I mean, 25?? Shit man, you have your whole life ahead of you dude! Trust me, there are tons of great girls out there.
As for your ex Lindsay. Fuck her. She is a cum dumpster of a slut and you really shouldnt even bother wasting your time on her. Did I read your story correctly when you said she went into a bedroom with 3 guys?!:eek:
Thank God you didnt end up marrying the bitch.
echo_bravo
07-19-2009, 01:18 PM
btw is there anybody here who is a stud/babe with romance? So far all of us guys are either pussies with this or that, or so unlucky in love that we deserve a personal apology from God.
Haha well in college I was pretty good with the ladies. I mean, I wasnt "the big man on campus" or anything but always had dates and hookups.
Its much much harder now that I am 26. I have commitment phobias I guess.
RicochetShaw
07-19-2009, 02:26 PM
btw is there anybody here who is a stud/babe with romance? So far all of us guys are either pussies with this or that, or so unlucky in love that we deserve a personal apology from God.
If we're going for quality over quantity... I've only dated one girl, but she was/is a 10.
countchocula
07-19-2009, 02:37 PM
I know the cutting isn't good, but it helps me cope...and I only do it when I really feel like I need to. It is definitely not a regular thing for me to do...like I said, I've only done like 7 cuts in the last three months since I started. It is still a poor choice on my part, I know. :(
You're still too young to accurately predict the consequences of your actions, but you definitely need to STOP cutting yourself. There are so many ways to cope with life that don't involve self-mutilation.
As for the chick, you can't expect her to want to help you or talk to you about your depression. She's a teenaged girl. Unless she's one of your best friends, she will never respond to a letter like that. You need to be treated for your depression. I'm assuming your parents aren't aware of the cutting.
MightyCelestial
07-19-2009, 02:44 PM
The only true love is unconditional love.
Romantic love, which is what the majority of western civilization as bought into as true love, has conditions. The main condition is that it must be "romantic". And therefore it is not true love. As the saying goes. "The problem about falling in love, is that eventually you'll fall out of love. And it's only then that true love can begin".
The Heart Collector
07-19-2009, 04:02 PM
hahaha your lives
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-19-2009, 04:54 PM
You're still too young to accurately predict the consequences of your actions, but you definitely need to STOP cutting yourself. There are so many ways to cope with life that don't involve self-mutilation.
As for the chick, you can't expect her to want to help you or talk to you about your depression. She's a teenaged girl. Unless she's one of your best friends, she will never respond to a letter like that. You need to be treated for your depression. I'm assuming your parents aren't aware of the cutting.
I dunno, I think that I'm a pretty big realist, but I'm sure that you're right (about my predicting the consequences). I honestly can't promise you that I will stop cutting, because I'd hate to lie to anybody, but I don't do it when I don't feel like I need to...which is a really lame excuse, I know. There just doesn't feel like there's any real outlet anymore, and I've lost whatever knack for writing I once had...And no, my parents aren't aware of it, there's no use in burdening them with something they cannot help.
I really don't want to take medication for my depression though, I just personally don't agree with it: that would be like synthetic happiness, and why waste my time with a facade of fake emotions when I would be meant to be feeling real emotions, in a way. Also I have two friends (they're actually cousins, and depression runs through their family, so they claim) that both take medication, and they say it doesn't help. The one cousin quit taking them because he said they just made him feel worse.
Now I have to know, Count, is your story that much worse than mine? I'm not asking you to say anything you do not feel comfortable with, but what could be worse than a ruined life? I just think that if there is any way to help you in whatever way it's worth a shot. :)
Shinigami
07-19-2009, 04:55 PM
I'm this close to carving The Heart Collector's initials into my arm and sending him my poetry.
countchocula
07-19-2009, 05:53 PM
Now I have to know, Count, is your story that much worse than mine? I'm not asking you to say anything you do not feel comfortable with, but what could be worse than a ruined life? I just think that if there is any way to help you in whatever way it's worth a shot. :)
I'm not a life coach, but your life is far from ruined. As for my stories, they would probably make you (and others, for that matter) feel better about your own problems, but I don't feel like typing out a melodrama on a message board. I'm not that important. If this thread is still kicking in a few days/weeks/decades, I'll post...something.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-19-2009, 05:57 PM
I'm not a life coach, but your life is far from ruined. As for my stories, they would probably make you (and others, for that matter) feel better about your own problems, but I don't feel like typing out a melodrama on a message board. I'm not that important. If this thread is still kicking in a few days/weeks/decades, I'll post...something.
Well, I hate myself, I've become somewhat of a recluse, I blaspheme once a day and am therefore more than likely doomed to Hell (assuming Hell exists...I never believed in it,), I cut, I've practically given up on everything...sure my life may not be over, but it's gone pretty far downhill.
Sure you're that important, I'm the insignificant one! :)
countchocula
07-19-2009, 06:13 PM
Thing is, you're one of millions. In fact, truly happy people are a minority. There are plenty of folks who have it worse than you do, but you probably won't realize it until you're well into your 20's/30's.
echo_bravo
07-19-2009, 06:15 PM
I dunno, I think that I'm a pretty big realist, but I'm sure that you're right (about my predicting the consequences). I honestly can't promise you that I will stop cutting, because I'd hate to lie to anybody, but I don't do it when I don't feel like I need to...which is a really lame excuse, I know. There just doesn't feel like there's any real outlet anymore, and I've lost whatever knack for writing I once had...And no, my parents aren't aware of it, there's no use in burdening them with something they cannot help.
I really don't want to take medication for my depression though, I just personally don't agree with it: that would be like synthetic happiness, and why waste my time with a facade of fake emotions when I would be meant to be feeling real emotions, in a way. Also I have two friends (they're actually cousins, and depression runs through their family, so they claim) that both take medication, and they say it doesn't help. The one cousin quit taking them because he said they just made him feel worse.
Now I have to know, Count, is your story that much worse than mine? I'm not asking you to say anything you do not feel comfortable with, but what could be worse than a ruined life? I just think that if there is any way to help you in whatever way it's worth a shot. :)
Honestly dude, I would seriously look into therapy and maybe medication (anti-depressants or something). There is no shame in that because they can both really really help. You could have a serious chemical inbalance or something that is probably making you not think straight.
echo_bravo
07-19-2009, 06:18 PM
hahaha your lives
Oh come on THC, give us a little insight to your love life. I am sure you have found love at least one time in your lifetime. I bet underneath that badass gangsta persona, you're a just a big 'ol teddy bear.;)
Tweek
07-19-2009, 06:45 PM
Oh come on THC, give us a little insight to your love life. I am sure you have found love at least one time in your lifetime. I bet underneath that badass gangsta persona, you're a just a big 'ol teddy bear.;)
Well he is called The Heart Collector. ;) (Wow, way to state the obvious, Tweek.)
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-19-2009, 10:04 PM
Kinda ironic...I'm talking to "her" for the first time on Facebook in months right now. :p
Natty
07-20-2009, 05:23 AM
Let us know how it goes :D
BadCoverVersion
07-20-2009, 05:44 AM
I'm not a life coach, but your life is far from ruined. As for my stories, they would probably make you (and others, for that matter) feel better about your own problems, but I don't feel like typing out a melodrama on a message board. I'm not that important. If this thread is still kicking in a few days/weeks/decades, I'll post...something.
Thing is, you're one of millions. In fact, truly happy people are a minority. There are plenty of folks who have it worse than you do, but you probably won't realize it until you're well into your 20's/30's.
I think you should listen to Count. He is making a lot of sense here.
I think your adoration for this girl has simply exacerbated your depression...but she isn't the root cause of it.
My suggestion would be to seek professional help for your self harming, and maybe consider taking up a spot of voluntary work. I think it would give you a much-needed confidence boost and also alter your perspective of your own circumstances.
It might seem like your world has ended right now, but it really hasn't.
I hope you realise this sooner rather than later.
Good luck.
Shinigami
07-20-2009, 08:00 AM
I think it would give you a much-needed confidence boost and also alter your perspective of your own circumstances.
It also helps people to stop being so involved with themselves. It's healthy to be in your own head, but once that starts to frustrate you or depress you in anyway there's no better solution than to stop thinking about yourself for a change and to start thinking about others by volunteering or doing whatever.
Lacking some kind of legitimate chemical balance issue, I don't get why you two are recommending he seek professional help. I've worked with people who are depressed like this later in their adult life, and there's a contrast between them and the younger crowd. There are very few cases when depression is out of someone's control when they're as young as g1ng3rsnap9ed, 'specially when the root of the depression is inner melodrama. I would guess he's just going overboard with the needy self-pitying spiral. Which is no big deal. It's fine and dandy as long as the cuts are shallow and as long as he isn't lashing out and hurting anyone else.
G1ng3rsnap9ed, so what if you hate god? It's okay to hate God sometimes. If you feel you might hate God for the rest of your life, that's okay too. Just stop beating yourself up for it. And if you hate yourself atm, well, even that's fine. Just let it be. Stop judging it and trying to change it so harshly. Your cuts will heal. You can find forgiveness for your blasphemy (whatever your faith). In other words, you can't self-destruct so momentously that there's no possible way for you to move on. It sounds like you're trying awful hard to do just that, maybe cuz you'd like everything you're feeling right now to make such a huge impact... but sorry dude. You're going to move on from this eventually.
If you're a writer, try commemorating your feelings with a story. That's a good way for them to still make an impact without inconveniencing your life so much.
Aside from pscyhoanalyzing g1ng3rsnap9ed :D (we're just trying to perk you up because we like you), do we have any more love fables to tell? Preferably of the happy variety? Or even the weird variety? I'm up for any Lars and the real girl, "I fell in love with a blow-up doll" adventures.
Tweek
07-20-2009, 08:10 AM
Bianca wasn't a blow-up doll. Sure she was an inanimate object meant for sexy time but she wasn't a blow-up doll!
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-20-2009, 11:11 AM
Thanks for the advice guys...
Let us know how it goes
Meh-ish. A few jokes here-'n-there, then it was done. :/ Oh yeah, and the said-boyfriend is a major jealous dick-weed...
Jon Lyrik
07-20-2009, 11:48 PM
Jesus Christ, folks. Follow my drumbeat.
Natty
07-21-2009, 05:48 AM
^^^^^^^^
I was gonna say that. Becoming asexual Gods seems to be good advice for us all.
blankpage
07-21-2009, 04:44 PM
Man, love fucks you up.
My tale of love does end with an eventual break-up, but things have never been better since...and despite a lot of shit in between, I'm glad I got to experience "love", so to speak, and learn a few things.
My band played a local charity event show here in Ottawa, where we were showered with free wings and a little bit of cash. There was one girl, near the front, taking a lot of pictures. After the set, two of the guys in the band took quite an interest in her. They wanted to see how the pictures turned out, and they started chatting away with her. There were sound problems during the set, so I was kind of bummed for a bit. She came up to me to show me the pictures, and I, as she later told me, shrugged her off and acted like a total dick. Well, I guess that angle worked because we eventually added each other on Facebook and MSN. Most of our convos were short. I wasn't really interested, as I was seeing a girl at the time.
Couple months later, a lot of shit had gone on in my life. I wasn't seeing that girl anymore, and a close family member had committed suicide. My band was about to head out on tour, and I was really looking forward to hitting the road. We had a local show to end the tour, and a couple days before we left...I happened to start talking with this girl, and I casually mentioned about the show.
One thing lead to another, and I found myself constantly texting her while on the road. Sure enough, end of the tour, there she is at our local show. A few days later, we started seeing each other.
We were definitely "in love"; that sappy, puppy-dog kind of love couple. I never had a relationship go past six months, so I definitely thought this was the real deal. We never really fought. I think a lot of that was attributed to the fact that I would be on the road, and we didn't see each other tons. So, whenever we had the opportunity, it didn't go wasted.
About 9 months in, my band kind of went on hiatus. Two members were moving away to the Toronto area. The three of us still left decided to re-build, but do it gradually. So, I opted to take another year off school and work while all this was going on. With a lot more free time, we began spending a lot more time with each other. When our one-year hit, things were absolutely fantastic.
Things slowly began going downhill about two months later. She took a new job that required her to be working quite a bit. This only left for us to hang out and such on certain days. Unfortunately, our schedules didn't meet eye-to-eye. We worked with it for a few weeks, but it began taking a toll on her. She thought I could work my schedule a little more so we could see each other, I told her that I try but it doesn't always work out, and it's just something we're going to have to work around.
I didn't think it'd be a problem because I would be gone for a month, and things were fine. But, I guess going from seeing each other almost everyday to this was a big change.
Things with the band were picking back up. Our guitarist who moved away came back, and we got ourselves a new drummer. We were constantly writing and getting shit together. When I wasn't working, this took up a lot of my time. My girlfriend began to think the band was more important than her, because we'd often have rehersals on her days off. I tried explaining to her that there were only certain days we could jam, etc.
The tension built up, and around December, things sort of blew up. We got into a huge fight. We went on a break. I was pretty frusterated with things at this point, and I sort of welcomed the break. She ended up surprising me and came to a show we were playing a week later. We talked things out and agreed to work on everything.
We did our best, but the same old problems kept creeping their way back a couple months later...and we found ourselves on another break. It was at this point I began to have thoughts about us splitting up. I loved her, but the constant fighting was wearing me out. After a huge fight during this break, she phoned me crying saying she was going to try and deal with our schedule conflicts more, and that she understands it can't be like things used to be.
So, things were good. The only problem is things with the band were really starting to move, and the "lifestyle" that came with it began creeping back into my life. I welcomed it. As weeks began to progress, I definitely started seeing myself in a different place. She did as well. I was loving the way things were going, but she wasn't really a big fan of the "road/band" life. We got into two huge fights the last week were dating, and after an hour discussion...mutually decided to break-up.
There were things I can see myself doing differently, but sometimes you can't control changes in your life, and where things go. I welcomed the changes, but it came at a price. We're still friends now...so that's good. Things could've been a lot worse between us considering (dont wanna get into the juicy details), so I'm pretty thankful for that.
countchocula
07-21-2009, 06:08 PM
Dude, post the myspace of your band. I want to check it out.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-21-2009, 08:51 PM
Motherfucker.
She deleted me. I dunno why the heck she did it...God, why does everything have to be so darn confusing!!? I feel so lost...:(
EDIT: That was actually somewhat of a pick-me-up story, Blankpage. I'm not sure that it was meant to be, but it certainly had an optimistic feel to it, which this Thread needed, with people like me saddening it up. :p
Jon Lyrik
07-21-2009, 09:47 PM
Nobody deserves your love over anyone else. Love all people equally no matter what. I have plenty of empathy on feeling otherwise, but it's not worth it, and it's not right. The only true love is letting yourself see and feel from all angles.
Humans are only able to truly empathize with maybe a hundred people. Don't embrace such a limited scope in your minds, folks.
echo_bravo
07-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Motherfucker.
She deleted me. I dunno why the heck she did it...God, why does everything have to be so darn confusing!!? I feel so lost...:(
Damn sorry dude. That was pretty cold blooded of her to do. Do you have her phone number or any other way of contacting her? You should ask why she dissed you like that...
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-21-2009, 11:02 PM
No I don't, and I've hardly talked to her (like maybe four times this year, with us having no classes together and all.) so it'd be wierd if I looked it up like I'd be stalking her or something. I just wanna know what the fuck I did to deserve this, I've been nice to her, haven't hit on her or anything since she has a bf and all, I literally wish that I mucked up somehow so that I'd have an effin' clue as to why I got deleted! What makes it even worse is the fact that she's so damn nice, all the time! I swear to God she is the sweetest, kindest person I've ever met, yet she must totally hate me!! Nothing makes sense any more...
*Sigh
Well, thanks for the sympathy anyways. I don't want anybody to think I'm just looking for "so sorries" on here or anything, but I haven't spoken a word of this to my family and don't see my friends very often (difficult situation...a have to share a bedroom and it mucho sucks, so I can't really have 'em over 'cause there'd be nowhere for them to sleep and all that...), so it's really been helping me, getting all this off my chest. :)
Jon Lyrik
07-21-2009, 11:04 PM
The less you care, the more sane you'll be.
Shinigami
07-21-2009, 11:36 PM
^I can't tell if some of you guys are really cynical or if it's just shtick.
If we're going for quality over quantity... I've only dated one girl, but she was/is a 10.
Good man!
Jon Lyrik
07-21-2009, 11:42 PM
I'm not witty enough to have much of a schtick.
jdparker
07-22-2009, 12:21 AM
I've got a sob-tale that I think would be perfect for this thread, but I'll save it for another night I think. It would best be told after a lonely night of drinking anyways. Come to think of it - I've got a couple good ones. Can't complain about my love life right now though. I've learnt that all you can really do is keep your chin up when love screws you around.
Ginger, it sounds like your going through a tough time, but you're still young and life is gonna get a lot tougher than some girl you barely know ignoring you and dissing you on Facebook. High School bitches are socially inept anyways, so just don't worry about it. You're obviously a sensitive soul so immerse yourself in good literature and movies so that when you get to college you'll be super interesting and able to use that same sensitivity to get girls. For the time being, do yourself a favor and make a list of ten things you like about yourself, and every night think of three good things that happened all day. Learn to focus your mind on the positive and you'll quickly find your luck turning around. If you can't do that, it's not because three good things didn't happen to you, or there aren't ten good things about you, it's because you are choosing not too see them and you want to be depressed. And cutting your wrists is a really fucking stupid and immature thing to do. If you really want to escape your problems, I'd suggest weed - just stay away from anything harder. Eating mushrooms once in awhile is okay too, but first you gotta learn to think positively, otherwise you're gonna have a bad trip.
blankpage
07-22-2009, 01:41 AM
EDIT: That was actually somewhat of a pick-me-up story, Blankpage. I'm not sure that it was meant to be, but it certainly had an optimistic feel to it, which this Thread needed, with people like me saddening it up. :p
I figured it was a good time to post my story. I guess, in a way, it was meant to be optimistic. There's a lot more to the story (I just don't want to post air it all out), in terms of how bad things got. I just came to the realization that I shouldn't be putting myself through a bad situation, and I was only holding on because of the "love" we had. It actually took a while for me to tell her how I was feeling, and how it may be better if we broke up. I thought that things could get better, but I was so unhappy at the same time. Despite it all, I got a lot out of the whole situation and feel very happy with here things are now. I'm glad you got something outta my story man. I sincerely hope things look up for you, and I imagine they will.
Sgizzy316
07-22-2009, 01:45 AM
twice
the heartbreak isn't fun but what you learn from it gives you an unfair advantage once you're over it
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-22-2009, 03:47 PM
Ginger, it sounds like your going through a tough time, but you're still young and life is gonna get a lot tougher than some girl you barely know ignoring you and dissing you on Facebook. High School bitches are socially inept anyways, so just don't worry about it. You're obviously a sensitive soul so immerse yourself in good literature and movies so that when you get to college you'll be super interesting and able to use that same sensitivity to get girls. For the time being, do yourself a favor and make a list of ten things you like about yourself, and every night think of three good things that happened all day. Learn to focus your mind on the positive and you'll quickly find your luck turning around. If you can't do that, it's not because three good things didn't happen to you, or there aren't ten good things about you, it's because you are choosing not too see them and you want to be depressed. And cutting your wrists is a really fucking stupid and immature thing to do. If you really want to escape your problems, I'd suggest weed - just stay away from anything harder. Eating mushrooms once in awhile is okay too, but first you gotta learn to think positively, otherwise you're gonna have a bad trip.
Yeah, I've been making changes this last week. Little changes, but positive changes nonetheless. I'm trying not to cut anymore...which I realize that it's only been maybe five days, if that, but I was feeling REALLY awful last night with the whole aforementioned thing about getting Deleted, and decided against it. Which is good because that at least means I have controll over if I do it/not. (Are you seriously suggesting weed? I don't do drugs, but alright. :D) I think I may try to pick up writing again soon as I find a decent enough idea, but who knows?...
echo_bravo
07-25-2009, 10:16 AM
Actually Ginger, I wouldnt resort to drugs at all. Weed could easily make you more depressed. As far as shrooms go...stay as far away from those as possible (especially if you are dealing with inner problems).
I also wasnt aware that the girl that deleted you on Facebook had a boyfriend. In that case dont even sweat it. She is basically off limits anyways.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-25-2009, 04:49 PM
Yeah, I'm not doing drugs. Whereas my cuts will heal over time (and I'm not even going to do that anymore.), the effects of drugs will forever stain my mind, and I don't want that to happen.
I'm going to try and change, and I've been doing things differently the last week. I haven't cut (half in part because of what you guys on here think of it.), I've been trying to think more optimistically, and I'm trying to just make a goal out of becoming happy again before anything else, and writing (professionaly or for recreation, whichever) a close second. I think that if I do become happy again, then in due time a girl may come along, if not, then at least I'm content with life again. I've also been getting on Facebook a lot lately, and Instant Messaging people, like Zombievictim and a few friends from my area, which helps a lot, and writing Notes on there. I'm also sorta starting to think that maybe this girl really isn't worth my time, and I've already wasted too much of it on her, I mean obviously she doesn't dig me and I should just leave it at that. (That really occured to me when she deleted me as a Friend...didn't know she disliked me that bad, but w/e.) There are far too many good people to be around that are happy to be around me to be wasting my time with somebody like her.
Natty
07-25-2009, 06:33 PM
I'm also sorta starting to think that maybe this girl really isn't worth my time, and I've already wasted too much of it on her, I mean obviously she doesn't dig me and I should just leave it at that. (That really occured to me when she deleted me as a Friend...didn't know she disliked me that bad, but w/e.) There are far too many good people to be around that are happy to be around me to be wasting my time with somebody like her.
Man, its difficult to 'move on' from things like this when you are feeling as if there is 'unfinished business' so to speak and you were passionate about knowing the girl more. So MAJOR props for doing this Todd, glad to see you've taken this attitude. :)
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 07:08 PM
hahaha your lives
How you are not kicked off this site, I will never know. What you said was possibly the worst thing I have ever read from you. These people are pouring out your hearts and most of it is pretty sad and fucked up shit and you laugh at them? You are heartless, not the heart collector.
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 07:24 PM
Now I'm 25, single, and utterly alone. Her? I've no idea where she's gone too. The douchebag she dated for so long is now married with kids, and is long done with her. My former best friend and I are back to being friends, but he is no longer a best. In fact, I hardly ever hear from him unless he is going out drinking and has no one else to call and come join him. But me? Oh, me...I've been single ever since I was 19. I can't look at women the same. I dont trust people anymore. Anytime a girl is interested in me, I either try too hard, trying to get back what I once had, that I flat out blow it, or I actually self-sabotage it, afraid of what happened in the past will happen again. I haven't spoken to her in 6 years, yet she continues to ruin my life every day.
So love? Fuck love. All it ever did for me was ruin my entire life.
I am enraged from your story. Not one person had any good advice for you. Red flags going up all over the place. I am going to say a few things and they may of may not apply to you.
1. You are twenty fucking five! You are a baby and your life is just beginning. You should be focusing on a career and or education and not pining over that fucking dumb ass slut.
2. Your former best friend is someone you should not be friends with anymore. I doubt he has any respect for you and you should not communicate with people like him. Living well is the best revenge.
3. There are millions are women on this planet and you are going to let one fucked up bitch kill any chance you have at finding true, long lasting love? Fuck that!
4. You are single and utterly alone at 25? Stop watching WWE and typing on Joblo.com (no offense Berge) and go out somewhere where women are.
5. Stop looking to jump into a relationship. Find a girl you like and talk to her like a normal fucking person. Do not mention your distrust of people. Treat her like a blank page of paper. Then start writing on her paper.
6. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and to quote 40 year Old Virgin, "Putting the pussy on a pedestal." Keep talking to all kinds of different women until you find someone you have some stuff in common with, then go do whatever that is.
There is more, but I have to get ready to go out. First, I want to yell at Ginger, because you people are of no help to him what so ever. There is some stuff here for you to digest and you communicate with me, because we need to your life on track and one post is not going to cut it.
BakeTheMooCow
07-25-2009, 07:34 PM
My advice -- Don't take advice on women from a guy who says the following:
that fucking dumb ass slut
one fucked up bitch
to quote 40 year Old Virgin, "Putting the pussy on a pedestal."
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 07:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not doing drugs. Whereas my cuts will heal over time (and I'm not even going to do that anymore.), the effects of drugs will forever stain my mind, and I don't want that to happen.
.
How old are you? Where do you live?
You listen to me and you listen good.
You are at the bottom of you life. You are nothing, but a stupid kid. Your job is work your ass off to become a proper law abiding, financially stable adult. Study in school and go to college and then start a career.
I used to cut myself as well and that is not why you should listen to me. When I was younger, I used to be able to be a room full of people and be totally alone. I felt sorry for myself a lot. I cut lines on arm with a very sharp pocket knife on three occasions. Why? I do not know. All I know is it made me think of that and not my feelings. I have freckles on my arm, so it is very hard to see the lines, but they are still there today. It is what I did to mask the problem and this did not solve anything. I never used drugs.
Stop looking for love in high school. This girl you love, you do not love. She is not perfect either. She is a kid who doesn't have a clue what she wants out of life. She is just having fun being young. What you wrote to her makes you look like someone who might just kill her one day if she doesn't like you anymore. It was totally unfair to give her a note like that when you are not even dating. But that is ok. You are a stupid kid and that is what being a kid is all about (making mistakes and learning). Next time you man up and talk to a girl, but you do not tell her you love her until you have a base of a relationship.
What you need to do at this time is focus on you becoming an adult. Go to school, study, get good grades and get into college. Along the way, figure out what you want to do with your life. Girls will come and go. You will be in love and out of love and have your heart broken many times over. You do not do like Jackson and give up. You get right back into the batters box and start talking to other girls. Do not focus on one girl and make her your end all be all greatest girl in the world.
This is a conversation we will have over several posts. Don't take drug advice from people. Most of these people on here are (no offense people) not people you should be taking advice from. I am not going to tell you to go see a councilors, because you are not there yet. You are a teenager and most teens are depressed, because they think their life is over only when it is beginning.
The biggest reason you should listen to me is because I have more experience than anyone else on this site. I have been married, divorced, two kids, one other kid I raised, dated many girls, banged close to a 100 girls and I came from nothing to a decently successful life and most of all I am happy. I don't know if you have a dad who is involved in your life or not, but if not you need someone like to me tell you how the world is and not all the happy rainbow world some people on here live in.
Now I have to get read and go outside and god willing bang this girl I am dating. If I do, I will bang her twice as good for some of you who need to get laid more often.
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 07:54 PM
My advice -- Don't take advice on women from a guy who says the following:
When you have a clue about anything, you let me know. My life is a million times better than yours. Your way has not worked for shit. It is high time he get advice from a real person.
Natty
07-25-2009, 07:54 PM
1. You are twenty fucking five! You are a baby and your life is just beginning.
Hardly a baby. He is a quarter of the way through his life and that's only if he lives to be 100, not 'at the beginning'. Actually try and think about it Abbie.
find someone you have some stuff in common with, then go do whatever that is.
Very poor advice, simply because it does not make sense.
you people are of no help to him what so ever.
He has actually already told us that we have helped him.
:rolleyes::mad::rolleyes:
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 08:03 PM
Hardly a baby. He is a quarter of the way through his life and that's only if he lives to be 100, not 'at the beginning'. Actually try and think about it Abbie.
Very poor advice, simply because it does not make sense.
He has actually already told us that we have helped him.
:rolleyes::mad::rolleyes:
Go away! I do not like you either. You have not helped him. You all should have told him to forget her. He would not know what real help is judging by what you people have said. Someone told him to do mushrooms. Are you fucking kidding me?
Do yourself a favor. Do not read what I write if you hate me so much.
"Very poor advice"? You know nothing about women. Get off the computer and go join the people in the real world. Honestly!
Natty
07-25-2009, 08:04 PM
I have been married, divorced, two kids, one other kid I raised, dated many girls, banged close to a 100 girls and I came from nothing to a decently successful life and most of all I am happy.
He has also downloaded illegal Traci Lords porn and has an extensive knowledge of the Transformers Matrix...his life is clearly way better than ours.
:rolleyes:
Abbie Normal
07-25-2009, 08:07 PM
He has also downloaded illegal Traci Lords porn and has an extensive knowledge of the Transformers Matrix...his life is clearly way better than ours.
:rolleyes:
Judging by your silence on the rest what I said,I am guessing you know I am right. I am late. Thank you, Natty. Nice to see you are so engrossed in my life. I am guessing yours is not nearly as fulfilling. Does it kill you that I am happy and you type out angry posts on here?
Natty
07-25-2009, 08:08 PM
Do not read what I write if you hate me so much.
I never said I hate you, stop being silly please.
In another thread I said I disliked you...and apologised because I admit it was out of order. However it is now you who are saying that you are better than others.
Get off the computer and go join the people in the real world.
Why do you keep insulting people for posting on the computer...do you not realise you are doing that yourself?
Natty
07-25-2009, 08:09 PM
Judging by your silence on the rest what I said,I am guessing you know I am right.
I already pointed out how you are wrong. What is wrong with you?
Shinigami
07-25-2009, 08:40 PM
Settle down Abbie Normal. Everything was mellow.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-25-2009, 08:52 PM
Man, its difficult to 'move on' from things like this when you are feeling as if there is 'unfinished business' so to speak and you were passionate about knowing the girl more. So MAJOR props for doing this Todd, glad to see you've taken this attitude. :)
I wouldn't congratulate me just yet...there's still a lot of time to back out. (Not that I plan on doing that.)
How you are not kicked off this site, I will never know. What you said was possibly the worst thing I have ever read from you. These people are pouring out your hearts and most of it is pretty sad and fucked up shit and you laugh at them? You are heartless, not the heart collector.
I have to admit that I was a little offended by that Post also. I didn't want to say anything to sound like a jerk, but since it was brought up, I'm sticking with Abbie 100%. This really isn't a Thread pertaining to laughing matters.
There is more, but I have to get ready to go out. First, I want to yell at Ginger, because you people are of no help to him what so ever. There is some stuff here for you to digest and you communicate with me, because we need to your life on track and one post is not going to cut it.
First, I have to say that what people have said on here has helped me a lot. I've given up on the girl, decided to quit cutting (which I know doesn't happen over night, but I was very light into it like I said, and I don't think there should be that much of a problem doing so.)
How old are you? Where do you live?
You listen to me and you listen good.
You are at the bottom of you life. You are nothing, but a stupid kid. Your job is work your ass off to become a proper law abiding, financially stable adult. Study in school and go to college and then start a career.
I used to cut myself as well and that is not why you should listen to me. When I was younger, I used to be able to be a room full of people and be totally alone. I felt sorry for myself a lot. I cut lines on arm with a very sharp pocket knife on three occasions. Why? I do not know. All I know is it made me think of that and not my feelings. I have freckles on my arm, so it is very hard to see the lines, but they are still there today. It is what I did to mask the problem and this did not solve anything. I never used drugs.
Stop looking for love in high school. This girl you love, you do not love. She is not perfect either. She is a kid who doesn't have a clue what she wants out of life. She is just having fun being young. What you wrote to her makes you look like someone who might just kill her one day if she doesn't like you anymore. It was totally unfair to give her a note like that when you are not even dating. But that is ok. You are a stupid kid and that is what being a kid is all about (making mistakes and learning). Next time you man up and talk to a girl, but you do not tell her you love her until you have a base of a relationship.
What you need to do at this time is focus on you becoming an adult. Go to school, study, get good grades and get into college. Along the way, figure out what you want to do with your life. Girls will come and go. You will be in love and out of love and have your heart broken many times over. You do not do like Jackson and give up. You get right back into the batters box and start talking to other girls. Do not focus on one girl and make her your end all be all greatest girl in the world.
This is a conversation we will have over several posts. Don't take drug advice from people. Most of these people on here are (no offense people) not people you should be taking advice from. I am not going to tell you to go see a councilors, because you are not there yet. You are a teenager and most teens are depressed, because they think their life is over only when it is beginning.
The biggest reason you should listen to me is because I have more experience than anyone else on this site. I have been married, divorced, two kids, one other kid I raised, dated many girls, banged close to a 100 girls and I came from nothing to a decently successful life and most of all I am happy. I don't know if you have a dad who is involved in your life or not, but if not you need someone like to me tell you how the world is and not all the happy rainbow world some people on here live in.
Now I have to get read and go outside and god willing bang this girl I am dating. If I do, I will bang her twice as good for some of you who need to get laid more often.
I'd like to thank you for taking the time to write up this post, it really does mean a lot to me that you'd care that much to do so. I agree with most of what you say and feel horribly sorry that you have resorted in your life to cutting, and hope that whatever wounds (mentally and physically) have healed. I know exactly what you mean about being in a room full of people and feeling alone, I feel that a lot.
echo_bravo
07-25-2009, 10:25 PM
WHOA FELLAS!
I honestly want NO one banned from Joblo. So lets all just chill!
Lets just not take "personal" shots at eachother. I am all for helpin a brotha out!
I will agree with a thing that Abbie Normal said which is "dont put pussy on a pedestal!". I wasnt aware that it was from the 40 Year Old Virgin cause I have heard it forever.
Its good advice cause I do see too many guys being "suckers for love".
BakeTheMooCow
07-25-2009, 11:15 PM
Go away! I do not like you either. You have not helped him. You all should have told him to forget her. He would not know what real help is judging by what you people have said. Someone told him to do mushrooms. Are you fucking kidding me?
Do yourself a favor. Do not read what I write if you hate me so much.
"Very poor advice"? You know nothing about women. Get off the computer and go join the people in the real world. Honestly!
Stop making antagonistic posts like these towards other schmoes.
BakeTheMooCow
07-25-2009, 11:42 PM
NOTE:
We don't want discussion about depression, suicide, and cutting oneself on these boards. These topics are off-limit and please don't bring them up. If you need to talk about, PM or email other schmoes.
Thank you.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-25-2009, 11:59 PM
NOTE:
We don't want discussion about depression, suicide, and cutting oneself on these boards. These topics are off-limit and please don't bring them up. If you need to talk about, PM or email other schmoes.
Thank you.
I apologize for contributing to this, I never knew that it was against the rules in any way, or else I'd never of brought it up, or even posted in this Thread. That's why I decided to give a little update on how I am changing things for the better from now on, which what I say I'm doing is 100% true, and what people on here posted helped me change my way of thought around a lot, so at least my unintentional rule-breaking didn't add up to nothing.
It won't happen again, I promise. :)
Shinigami
07-26-2009, 11:09 AM
Why are so many guys incapable of moving on from a relationship without first going through a long rationalizing process of demonizing the girl into a stupid slutty bitch whore who isn't worth their time.
Abbie Normal
07-26-2009, 02:41 PM
Why are so many guys incapable of moving on from a relationship without first going through a long rationalizing process of demonizing the girl into a stupid slutty bitch whore who isn't worth their time.
It is a good question. Some girls are stupid, slutty bitch whores. Most are not. The important things to remember is life is a learning lesson and there are million of girls in the world. It is never too late to find love. It is also important to not dwell on a failed relationship and get right back up on that horse (you know what I mean). No girl is worth wrecking your life.
I think one problem in America at least is so many men have been raised by women without a father and as a result have grown up with too many feelings and a slight lack of balls. As the great mobster Tony Soprano said, "What the fuck happened to Gary Cooper?" If you did not see that episode, it is all about acting like a man in the face of heart wrenching times. Cowboy up mother f'ers and let's go get us another woman!
countchocula
07-26-2009, 02:49 PM
One of the moderators needs to post a few guidelines at the top of the forum. You can't just post rules here and there as shit happens. There needs to be WAY more moderation. Otherwise, I don't see how you guys can expect this forum to last much longer. It wasn't the best idea to begin with.
I don't see why certain topics should be off-limits. Reasonable people can talk about anything. Unreasonable people like Abbie should be banned. It's as simple as that. What are we supposed to talk about in here if we can't talk about life? Doritos? Colors? Trigonometry?
electriclite
07-26-2009, 05:40 PM
The funny thing is so many women being raised by women are taught to "man up" more then men are.
No sex has got the exclusivity rights of having it more rough than the other (although child birth and cramps might put us a smidge above the boys, however one is a choice to go through, the other is just mandatory).
Boys the best piece of advice I can give you is something coming from having many many male friends, a brother and a dumb ass dad:
Never idealize a woman as being some sort of entry into a better world or a better life unless you actually see the Golden Wonka Ticket PHYSICALLY in her hand. We wanna quote or put up a movie as an example? Eternal Sunshine;Clementine. What a nutter she was! But she put on a good show and looked like some extravagant, sparkly Christmas ornament to a clinical introvert like Joel.
In my experience, the more they sparkle and shine the more shit you will be dealing with.
That being said, another rule is: the hotter the chick is the more issues she has than a lifetime subscription to TIME magazine. Hot guys, average guys they've all had the exact same experience with these women. My brother dated a chick that had long flowing hair, thin and graceful like a gazelle and nuttier than a Planter's factory. I actually remember this girl following my brother from Florida to Pennsylvania, them getting into a fight at my dad's house (when my grandmother was visiting) and her running outside to the middle of the road, bawling out loud at 1 in the morning in the middle of a QUIET suburban neighborhood. And she REFUSED to come inside. I tried to drag her inside (not my brother mind you) forcefully and she just did not want to come inside. After their relationship eventually ended, this girl, who used to be my sister's friend (that also eventually ended when she decided not to pick-up my sister from work, like she promised she would, to instead do something with her latest boyfriend) was quoted as saying to my sister that she would not return to school until she had a boyfriend!
And the craziest shit is, this girl has dated men that have all known each other. She dated a friend of my brother's (my brother didn't give a shit) and all I could think of when I saw this was "Weren't you warned?", cause I know men may not gossip, but they do complain to each other about women.
The bottom line is men and women need to treat themselves like some exclusive country club resort. You take applications, but no one just gets to glide right on in and use the facilities without showing they have some good credit or references, otherwise the place ends up looking a like public restroom.
If you feel you have low self-esteem you should not be in a relationship, because it will only make it worse. You only let in people that mirror how you feel about yourself. If you feel like shit about yourself, guess what you get? Work on yourself first, make yourself happy. Going back to the exclusive private resort metaphor, if you renovate and turn the place into a palace, the quality people will want to come in.
Jon Lyrik
07-26-2009, 05:51 PM
Leave it to a woman to post the first intelligent thing on this page of this particular thread.
Thread saved.
Heisenberg
07-26-2009, 07:06 PM
LOL @ Abbie talking pure shit. Do NOT listen to a word He/She says. They obviously know nothing about relationships.
and btw, I find it fucking HILARIOUS that you are insulting every member of this board and then going one step further on other member, and your still fucking here. I am in no position to make threats, but I advise you to seriously think before you type.
Shinigami
07-26-2009, 07:58 PM
Leave it to a woman to post the first intelligent thing on this page of this particular thread.
Did she just suggest that attractive people have more issues/worse issues than unattractive people?
Edit:
The important things to remember is life is a learning lesson and there are million of girls in the world. It is never too late to find love. It is also important to not dwell on a failed relationship and get right back up on that horse (you know what I mean). No girl is worth wrecking your life.
I agree completely, but I don't like that so many guys have to pump their confidence up by bringing their ex partner down. If that works for someone than that works for someone and I'm in no place to judge it, but a lot of the examples in this thread are from guys who don't seem to be getting anywhere with this overcompensating.
Guy 1: That fucking whore cheated on me!
Guy 2: Wow. I guess you didn't fulfill her sexually or emotionally or something?
Guy 1: No, it's because she's a whore.
:D
outsyder
07-26-2009, 08:06 PM
I always thought the rule was:
intelligent
sane
attractive
Pick two
BakeTheMooCow
07-26-2009, 08:32 PM
One of the moderators needs to post a few guidelines at the top of the forum. You can't just post rules here and there as shit happens. There needs to be WAY more moderation. Otherwise, I don't see how you guys can expect this forum to last much longer. It wasn't the best idea to begin with.
I don't see why certain topics should be off-limits. Reasonable people can talk about anything. Unreasonable people like Abbie should be banned. It's as simple as that. What are we supposed to talk about in here if we can't talk about life? Doritos? Colors? Trigonometry?
I've added a post to the rules at the top of this forum.
You can talk about life, but not issues of abuse, suicide and depression - since that caused too much drama last time and resulted in the old misc. forum being closed.
electriclite
07-26-2009, 11:33 PM
Did she just suggest that attractive people have more issues/worse issues than unattractive people?
I'm saying in their dense little demographic they have an incredibly disproportionate amount of nutsos.
Best bet is to snag the ones who weren't consecutively attractive from toddler to adulthood.
Abbie Normal
07-26-2009, 11:51 PM
I'm saying in their dense little demographic they have an incredibly disproportionate amount of nutsos.
Best bet is to snag the ones who weren't consecutively attractive from toddler to adulthood.
I think you are right. I have always found the hotter the chick the less secure she is in terms of self esteem. It does not help that because of their beauty they can and do get away with so much crap that a normal looking person could not get away with or get. On the flip side, these women also have to put up with a world of sexual and beauty pressure all the time and have a higher than normal risk at being sexually molested.
electriclite
07-27-2009, 12:20 AM
I think you are right. I have always found the hotter the chick the less secure she is in terms of self esteem. It does not help that because of their beauty they can and do get away with so much crap that a normal looking person could not get away with or get. On the flip side, these women also have to put up with a world of sexual and beauty pressure all the time and have a higher than normal risk at being sexually molested.
BINGO!
I was going to mention that in my post, but I opted on keeping it short and simple.
Tagia_Romero
07-27-2009, 01:13 AM
I think one problem in America at least is so many men have been raised by women without a father and as a result have grown up with too many feelings and a slight lack of balls. As the great mobster Tony Soprano said, "What the fuck happened to Gary Cooper?"
And is it any wonder this character isn't real, much less a caveman?
Tweek
07-27-2009, 02:20 AM
I think you are right. I have always found the hotter the chick the less secure she is in terms of self esteem. It does not help that because of their beauty they can and do get away with so much crap that a normal looking person could not get away with or get. On the flip side, these women also have to put up with a world of sexual and beauty pressure all the time and have a higher than normal risk at being sexually molested.
Wait...Wouldn't that likely make someone feel better about themselves? And 'beauty pressure' isn't restricted to people who are already attractive. I don't even know how that makes sense.
BadCoverVersion
07-27-2009, 04:04 AM
I think you are right. I have always found the hotter the chick the less secure she is in terms of self esteem. It does not help that because of their beauty they can and do get away with so much crap that a normal looking person could not get away with or get. On the flip side, these women also have to put up with a world of sexual and beauty pressure all the time and have a higher than normal risk at being sexually molested.
I disagree with this actually. My experience of exceptionally beautiful women is that they are gallingly down-to-earth and emotionally secure. I'm not talking about the local Prom Queen with ideas above her station...I'm talking stunningly attractive females who model in the Capital.
One particular girl I know rather well is incredibly funny and intelligent to boot...any man would be lucky to have her, and the one who does - a friend of mine - is about as far from a Supermodel as you can get.
Abbie Normal
07-27-2009, 10:07 AM
Wait...Wouldn't that likely make someone feel better about themselves? And 'beauty pressure' isn't restricted to people who are already attractive. I don't even know how that makes sense.
Not always. Sometimes people get away with stuff they shouldn't. Someone might have a drug or alcohol problem. Maybe getting a higher grade or job they do not earn, which might seed good, but can backfire. There have been several high profile athletes that came out of college that could not read. That is not beauty, but still a decent example.
You make a lot of sense. Many people feel the pressure of being beautiful. We have advertising, tv and movies to thank for this. I remember an old song named, Everybody Dance Now, by C&C Music Factory. The female vocals was originally sung by a fatter woman, but they replaced her for the video. Then Marky Mark used (i think that same fatter) chick for his song, Good Vibrations. I always thought Mark was a stand up guy for that.
I disagree with this actually. My experience of exceptionally beautiful women is that they are gallingly down-to-earth and emotionally secure. I'm not talking about the local Prom Queen with ideas above her station...I'm talking stunningly attractive females who model in the Capital.
One particular girl I know rather well is incredibly funny and intelligent to boot...any man would be lucky to have her, and the one who does - a friend of mine - is about as far from a Supermodel as you can get.
I guess we all have different experiences. It has been said by many supermodels that they feel constant pressure to stay thin and are always critical of themselves. Some turn to drugs to stay thin. Family Guy did an episode about this. But I was not really speaking of models. I meant regular gals that are beautiful. Then there is the whole deal when beauties get old. That is a whole new ball game.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-27-2009, 11:51 AM
I've added a post to the rules at the top of this forum.
You can talk about life, but not issues of abuse, suicide and depression - since that caused too much drama last time and resulted in the old misc. forum being closed.
Thanks for that, because I've been wanting to open a Thread in this Forum since it first started, but didn't want to open one that'd just get deleted for something I hadn't known about. :)
electriclite
07-27-2009, 05:30 PM
I disagree with this actually. My experience of exceptionally beautiful women is that they are gallingly down-to-earth and emotionally secure. I'm not talking about the local Prom Queen with ideas above her station...I'm talking stunningly attractive females who model in the Capital.
One particular girl I know rather well is incredibly funny and intelligent to boot...any man would be lucky to have her, and the one who does - a friend of mine - is about as far from a Supermodel as you can get.
Then you have found the rare little non-nut cluster of the sane few. But I wager a good number of them went through, at one point, an awkward phase.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
07-27-2009, 09:40 PM
I deleted my (*Ahem!) "controversial" post that sparked a decent deal of talk in this Forum, do to it violating Forum terms. Sorry again about that. :)
Abbie Normal
08-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Health Club Killer You Tube Video and Coverage
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32313558#32313558
I originally posted the story under my stupid person of the day thread, but it fits in here well.
Some of you have mentioned your lack of love or being alone and I hope none of you turn to something as horrible as what he has done. This is a decent clip on the coverage. I recommend it to anyone. I think it is in poor taste to show his clips from youtube.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-06-2009, 02:28 PM
I'm sure there's no need to worry about any of us ever going off the deep end, Abbie...
*Sharpens machete
Abbie Normal
08-06-2009, 02:46 PM
I'm sure there's no need to worry about any of us ever going off the deep end, Abbie...
*Sharpens machete
It wouldn't be at a health club, but at a movie theater. Probably during a Michael Bay movie. I would not be me, if I did not worry about some of you schmoes, you included.
FYI High school girls dig muscles G1ng. Do bicep curls during your movie watching. Low weights, high reps.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-06-2009, 03:46 PM
It wouldn't be at a health club, but at a movie theater. Probably during a Michael Bay movie. It would not be me, if I did not worry about some of you schmoes, you included.
FYI High school girls dig muscles G1ng. Do bicep curls during your movie watching. Low weights, high reps.
If it was during a tim burton movie, it'd be me. :D
I dunno about bicep curls, I'm sure masturbating is enough to get some muscles. :p
darchangel
08-06-2009, 03:51 PM
I could rip this thread in half and piss all over it, but I won't. I realize that I'm not the only one who has been murdered. Repeatedly. Still, there isn't enough bandwidth here for me to tell a story.
I do believe that the soul is incomplete until you've experienced true love.
...but I love you, count-ykins! *hug*
And yes, I have been in love.
Damone
08-06-2009, 04:01 PM
I'm sure masturbating is enough to get some muscles. :p
Just your forearms. Do it too much and you'll look like Popeye. ;)
Highspeed
08-06-2009, 04:04 PM
And popeye was a damn pimp.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-06-2009, 04:10 PM
And popeye was a damn pimp.
Exactly. And so I stand by my methods. :D
Abbie Normal
08-06-2009, 04:11 PM
If masturbating is the only time you get your heart rate up then it is time to change your life.
Popeye was funny. You people are funny sometimes. :)
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-06-2009, 05:56 PM
If masturbating is the only time you get your heart rate up then it is time to change your life.
I was joking, but I'm sure you caught on to that. I actually go on very long walks, there have been some days where I've walked at least six hours. (Not straight, but On/Off.)
Abbie Normal
08-06-2009, 06:02 PM
I was joking, but I'm sure you caught on to that. I actually go on very long walks, there have been some days where I've walked at least six hours. (Not straight, but On/Off.)
Yes, I got the joke. Stop walking and start running. Walking is for old ladies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJaq_C4gCuQ
Highspeed
08-06-2009, 06:07 PM
Seein Vinnie Jones comin at me like that would be enough to get me runnin for a good couple hours before I even thought about stoppin.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-07-2009, 01:48 AM
Aha, Vinnie Jones is one scary mofo. :eek:
*Maybe we should get back on topic soon, or just let this Thread rest in peace? :o
Tweek
08-07-2009, 01:52 AM
Back on topic...Yes...Well, Popeye loved spinach!
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 01:56 AM
Yes indeed...Olive Oyl was just his mistress.
Tweek
08-07-2009, 01:58 AM
Yes indeed...Olive Oyl was just his mistress.
Yeah, he didn't want anyone getting wise to his forbidden love.
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 02:02 AM
Yes because he knew all too well that forbidden love is a bitch...ask Romeo & Juliet they'll tell ya...
Tweek
08-07-2009, 02:08 AM
Yes because he knew all too well that forbidden love is a bitch...ask Romeo & Juliet they'll tell ya...
Speaking of Romeo and Juliet...I love Hot Fuzz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APg-qnuZZdQ
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-07-2009, 12:43 PM
Speaking of Romeo and Juliet...I love Hot Fuzz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APg-qnuZZdQ
As do I. :)
So Popeye, that guy must'a spanked his monkey a LOT!!! 'Eh?
Natty
08-07-2009, 01:11 PM
It's a shame about that incident. Strange how when they were talking about why depression has existed for ages but such crimes only happen over there and only recently, the didn't think to blame the gun laws.
In other sexual news, anyone hear about the Greek woman who set a British tourist on fire (http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20090807/tuk-greek-woman-on-trial-for-torching-br-a7ad41d.html) when he tried to grope her?
Abbie Normal
08-07-2009, 03:30 PM
It's a shame about that incident. Strange how when they were talking about why depression has existed for ages but such crimes only happen over there and only recently, the didn't think to blame the gun laws
I am sorry to say that guns will always be easy to get in America. There are just too many people who want them for all sorts of reasons and the NRA is a powerful lobby.
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 03:44 PM
I do remember reading about that greek fire breathing woman...
Natty
08-07-2009, 06:10 PM
I am sorry to say that guns will always be easy to get in America. There are just too many people who want them for all sorts of reasons and the NRA is a powerful lobby.
Yeah its a damn shame. It's gonna take a major, major incident for the USA to consider changing the law but you're right in that it will probably never happen.
Abbie Normal
08-07-2009, 06:55 PM
Yeah its a damn shame. It's gonna take a major, major incident for the USA to consider changing the law but you're right in that it will probably never happen.
A 5 year could walk into a school and kill every kid in the school and nothing will happen to gun laws. It is in our constitution and money rules those who make the rules. Those who make and use guns have a lot of money to give to those who make the rules. The only way the law could be changed on this would be if the USA was no more.
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 07:05 PM
So my ex called me today she has about two weeks before she is due. (If you dont know what I'm talkin about go to the first page of this thread). I am really hoping the baby is mine because I do love her. If I was blessed with a child that would be greater than any love that has been so far discussed in this thread. I'm keepin my fingers crossed.
Abbie Normal
08-07-2009, 07:46 PM
So my ex called me today she has about two weeks before she is due. (If you dont know what I'm talkin about go to the first page of this thread). I am really hoping the baby is mine because I do love her. If I was blessed with a child that would be greater than any love that has been so far discussed in this thread. I'm keepin my fingers crossed.
I have questions. I read a few posts you made.
1. Has she lived in LA during the whole pregnancy?
2. Is she still with that guy is she is there?
3. I assume you are asking for a blood test after the baby is born. What happens if the kid (may he/she be healthy) is yours?
4. What happens if the kid is not yours?
5. You said you had set a date for a wedding. Did you give her a ring?
I hope things workout for you. Children are a blessing.
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 07:59 PM
I have questions. I read a few posts you made.
1. Has she lived in LA during the whole pregnancy?
2. Is she still with that guy is she is there?
3. I assume you are asking for a blood test after the baby is born. What happens if the kid (may he/she be healthy) is yours?
4. What happens if the kid is not yours?
5. You said you had set a date for a wedding. Did you give her a ring?
I hope things workout for you. Children are a blessing.
1. Yes she has
2. No she was stayin with him but they recently broke up and she is living with family.
3. Yes I am, since the other potential father is out there he'll be supplyin his blood (he isn't happy about it but he's doin it.)
4. If the kid is not mine then I may still go out there and help her with the custody battle and see where things go from there.
5. Yes I had some money saved and bought her a ring before she had moved out here...she gave it back when she left.
Abbie Normal
08-07-2009, 08:11 PM
1. Yes she has
2. No she was stayin with him but they recently broke up and she is living with family.
3. Yes I am, since the other potential father is out there he'll be supplyin his blood (he isn't happy about it but he's doin it.)
4. If the kid is not mine then I may still go out there and help her with the custody battle and see where things go from there.
5. Yes I had some money saved and bought her a ring before she had moved out here...she gave it back when she left.
More questions
Hmmm. Personally, I think you are a real decent sort of fella and I don't know why she has not chosen to be with you yet.
1. How old are you and what kind of work do you do?
2. Custody Battle? Unless there is something seriously wrong with her, she is not going to lose the battle to keep the kid.
3. Have you been dating other people since she left or are you just waiting to see what is happening with her and the baby?
4. Does she want you to go out there is the kid is yours or not?
Highspeed
08-07-2009, 08:22 PM
More questions
Hmmm. Personally, I think you are a real decent sort of fella and I don't know why she has not chosen to be with you yet.
1. How old are you and what kind of work do you do?
2. Custody Battle? Unless there is something seriously wrong with her, she is not going to lose the battle to keep the kid.
3. Have you been dating other people since she left or are you just waiting to see what is happening with her and the baby?
4. Does she want you to go out there is the kid is yours or not?
Thanks for the vote of confidence :). But here we go
1. I'm 21. Workin at Harrahs Casino and about to start film school.
2. There really is nothin wrong with her she has a nice steady job at a photography studio and is really a decent girl. Her paranoia is getting the best of her.
3. I havent been dating since she left actually I've actually just been focusing on work and finally gettin back into school, as far as my love life it's all in phone calls to her.
4. She has mentioned even if the baby is not mine if I'd settle out there and help her raise the baby.
Abbie Normal
08-07-2009, 08:49 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence :). But here we go
1. I'm 21. Workin at Harrahs Casino and about to start film school.
2. There really is nothin wrong with her she has a nice steady job at a photography studio and is really a decent girl. Her paranoia is getting the best of her.
3. I havent been dating since she left actually I've actually just been focusing on work and finally gettin back into school, as far as my love life it's all in phone calls to her.
4. She has mentioned even if the baby is not mine if I'd settle out there and help her raise the baby.
You seem pretty smart and committed. I hope the baby is yours and you two live happily ever after. I am no doctor, but I am pretty sure they could do the father test now. It would be so much better if you could be there for the birth. It is a moment in your life you will never forget. I suggest you make every effort to be there for the birth.
Think of it this way. If it is your kid do you really want to have to explain to him/her that you were not there at his/her birth because you did not know if he/she was your? You must admit it is not you usual love story.
Best of luck!
OH yeah, hit me, bitch and be kind.
NuclearMisfit
08-07-2009, 08:55 PM
I WANNA KNOW WHAT LOVE IS!!!! I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME!!!
Nope havent found the right one yet.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-08-2009, 11:59 AM
I WANNA KNOW WHAT LOVE IS!!!! I WANT YOU TO SHOW ME!!!
Nope havent found the right one yet.
But what about all those times we've shared together!? :(
*Runs off, crying.
Tweek
08-08-2009, 12:38 PM
But what about all those times we've shared together!? :(
*Runs off, crying.
[presents shoulder]
Here, g1ngy...you can cry on this. :(
Abbie Normal
08-08-2009, 02:02 PM
But what about all those times we've shared together!? :(
*Runs off, crying.
"You can act like a man!"
http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/images-3/the-godfather-marlon-brando.jpg
I kid of course.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-08-2009, 04:06 PM
You're right, Abbie. Who needs NuclearMisfit when we have right hands that'll never leave us? :p
Highspeed
08-08-2009, 04:25 PM
Be careful even a hand will leave you if you dont give it it's space...
Abbie Normal
08-10-2009, 04:06 PM
Be careful even a hand will leave you if you dont give it it's space...
or gamble like Frankie 4 fingers
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTcxMzM3NzE0MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTYwOTU2MTc2._V1._ SX267_SY400_.jpg
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-17-2009, 01:04 PM
I've got another (more recent) Love Story for this Thread. This one's much happier and I personally prefer it, a lot. :)
Abbie Normal
08-17-2009, 04:06 PM
I've got another (more recent) Love Story for this Thread. This one's much happier and I personally prefer it, a lot. :)
You going to share it with us? If I were you I would not throw the word Love around so haphazardly. Use the work LIKE for now, please. Or LUST.
zombievictim
08-17-2009, 04:11 PM
Oh and Gingy, when you tell that story, feel free to mention the AWESOME Schmoe which gave his utmost wisdom.
Abbie Normal
08-17-2009, 04:17 PM
Sorry wrong place..
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-17-2009, 05:51 PM
You going to share it with us? If I were you I would not throw the word Love around so haphazardly. Use the work LIKE for now, please. Or LUST.
Love is subjective. I can love somebody one minute and hate them the next, it is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak. To be fair, you are entirely correct about the first girl, but I've really changed a lot (for the better) since I posted that on here and yes, lust would have been a better word for it. And plus, this is High-School life we're talking about here! :p
Oh and Gingy, when you tell that story, feel free to mention the AWESOME Schmoe which gave his utmost wisdom.
Don't worry, Zombievictim, you'll get your due. ;)
Jon Lyrik
08-18-2009, 12:54 PM
Three months ago, girl I eyeballed for years: "Well, you're a Great Guy™, but I don't want a relationship right before I go off to college."
Today, on Facebook: "Mary Jane Rottencrotch is in a relationship with Haywood Jablowme." And Haywood Jablowme is a) Not going to college with her, b) Went to school with us.
Lying bitch, just like I guessed. Insult my intelligence, will ya? May her asshole be torn asunder by big, veiny, anus-shattering cocks.
Abbie Normal
08-18-2009, 01:04 PM
Three months ago, girl I eyeballed for years: "Well, you're a Great Guy™, but I don't want a relationship right before I go off to college."
Today, on Facebook: "Mary Jane Rottencrotch is in a relationship with Haywood Jablowme." And Haywood Jablowme is a) Not going to college with her, b) Went to school with us.
Lying bitch, just like I guessed. Insult my intelligence, will ya? May her asshole be torn asunder by big, veiny, anus-shattering cocks.
Are you going to confront her and get the truth?
Maybe the girls can confirm this, but I believe it is true when people say a woman will know if she is going to sleep with you within the first 5 minutes of meeting you.
Jon Lyrik
08-18-2009, 01:15 PM
Yeah, I know all that bullshit about the friends zone and I was sure she was blowing me off when she did the Great Guy schpiel. I don't need to confront her. I know it's basically because she doesn't have the gumption to tell me, "I'm not sexually attracted to you, and when I picture you naked, you don't have any genitals. Male or female. It disturbs me."
Damone
08-18-2009, 01:31 PM
...but I believe it is true when people say a woman will know if she is going to sleep with you within the first 5 minutes of meeting you.
I don't know about first 5 minutes but I do believe she knows by the end of the first date.
Abbie Normal
08-18-2009, 01:31 PM
I would confront her anyway. For two reasons: 1. Fuck her. Why should I just go away and make it easy for her. 2. It would be a learning experience. She just might say something that will help you in the future either with her and some other gal.
Either way, I would stick around and pop up every now and then. Things change and it is always good to put yourself in a good position to be next. I would also find yourself another girl. Now that she knows she can't have you, things change.
I remember I tried to date this one gal and she picked a couple of losers and never gave me a chance. I ran into her at the same bar where we used to hang out in years later. I had a life where I was doing stuff and she stayed the same and married some loser. She expressed her unhappiness in her life and then I said (like an asshole), "Maybe you should have given me a shot." Before we both left she said she agreed and should have given me a shot. Talk about redemption. I still smile when I think of her to this day.
Jon Lyrik
08-18-2009, 01:43 PM
Nah, I don't like taking passive-aggressive bullshit into action. Just not my style. She's going to be eighty miles away for four years in two weeks anyway. I'm through with anything involving my high school. Plus I'm intentionally keeping away from romance for an indefinite period of time, so why beat a cryogenically frozen horse?
Abbie Normal
08-18-2009, 01:50 PM
Nah, I don't like taking passive-aggressive bullshit into action. Just not my style. She's going to be eighty miles away for four years in two weeks anyway. I'm through with anything involving my high school. Plus I'm intentionally keeping away from romance for an indefinite period of time, so why beat a cryogenically frozen horse?
OK. I respect your feelings. She will be home during late Dec and most of Jan. and during the summer months (june - aug). By romance you mean like a girlfriend and not casual sex, right?
Jon Lyrik
08-18-2009, 03:22 PM
Considering her home life, I doubt she'll make many or long visits. Not that I care really.
And yes, of course.
Natty
08-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Considering her home life, I doubt she'll make many or long visits. Not that I care really.
What do you mean by this?
Sorry to hear that by the way, especially as your posts on this thread were truly awesome.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-20-2009, 05:03 PM
RE: My "Other" Story
I don't really want to fucking talk about it. Not right now, I don't know if I'll want to for a while...
Heisenberg
08-20-2009, 05:15 PM
I don't really want to fucking talk about it. Not right now, I don't know if I'll want to for a while...
Nobody asked you to Gingy. It's your decision, talk when you are ready to talk.
That may be tommorow, it may be in a year. Only talk about it when your okay with it.
;)
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-20-2009, 05:28 PM
Nobody asked you to Gingy. It's your decision, talk when you are ready to talk.
That may be tommorow, it may be in a year. Only talk about it when your okay with it.
;)
Thanks. I just...I don't know, I'm really confused. I feel like a ball that life picks up just to throw back down against the pavement to see if I'll bounce back up again. I can't say much more without breaking the Forum rules, but perhaps later on I can tell a little more of the story...:)
SuperMarcey
08-21-2009, 12:51 AM
Gingy, you need to try and have more of a positive attitude :)
zombievictim
08-21-2009, 01:31 AM
He's a teen with plenty o angst. Positive won't happen for some time.
SuperMarcey
08-21-2009, 01:41 AM
He's a teen with plenty o angst. Positive won't happen for some time.
Yes but these teens need good advice, don't need any more Emos
Shinigami
08-21-2009, 06:45 AM
^says the raven haired girl with blood running down from her lip :D
SuperMarcey
08-21-2009, 07:07 AM
^says the raven haired girl with blood running down from her lip :D
I'm not emo, I'm a happy vampire ;)
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-21-2009, 09:26 AM
He's a teen with plenty o angst. Positive won't happen for some time.
Thank you, Zombievictim, at least you understand me. ;)
I may do a write up on this some time, but I'm really not sure. Things just took such a sudden turn for the worse that I'm not sure if I should just end it on another negative note (which it appears to be that way) or wait it out and hope for the best (which I hope things will look up again, but that seems doubtful, at least for a long while).
Abbie Normal
08-21-2009, 10:11 AM
The only way to truly live life and learn is through experiences. There is no need to focus on the negative as long as you learn from its lessons. You are experiencing kiddo. Enjoy the ride.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-21-2009, 10:25 AM
The only way to truly live life and learn is through experiences. There is no need to focus on the negative as long as you learn from its lessons. You are experiencing kiddo. Enjoy the ride.
That I am. I'm going to try to make things right again, which hopefully shouldn't take too long because it only took me a day to 'eff everything up (well, it was already shot, but I messed it up furthermore), and maybe we can at least stay friends.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-23-2009, 12:05 PM
Another Long, but Important One...
The story begins when I first get home from my grandparents (I visited them a lot over the summer), around a week after I had finally given up on the previous subject of my "Love Post," and answer the phone to my best-friend (who hasn't called in months), who wanted me to go to the fair with him. I was instantly excited, more so than I probably should have been, but I was eager to see him, and I ended up going after a little trouble with contacting my mother, who was not home at the time.
Once there, my friend and I hang out for a while, walking aimlessly through the fair, talking about random stuff such as making fun of our peers, etc., the usual trife, when a girl we had known approached us and we hung (or is it hanged? Whatever.) out with us for a few hours. She had given me her phone-number months before on Myspace, but I'd never bothered to call because I hadn't seen her in months (she failed 8th Grade, and was homeschooled last year, but I talked to her occasionally on-line) and was afraid it would be awkward. Things went well, more well than they normally do with me when I'm around the female gender, so I decided to call her that Sunday. She called back a few hours later, and was apparently playing in a John Hughes Tribute play version of the Breakfast Club. We had a good hour of conversation and she brought up that I should try to get Texting. Remembering Zombievictim's advice from earlier that week (that it's virtually impossible to hold a relationship without texting, because communication is too hard) I told her that I would and got Texting the next day. We started texting, a lot, like from the hour we woke to the hour we decided to get rest (which was usually around two in the morning.)
One night she told me (at around 12:30 at night) that she wanted a bed-time story, and after a little resistence (I thought it would be stupid at the time,and childish) I gave in and we started. The story was essentially about the two of us and I accidentally blurted out that I liked her, and she admitted to liking me back. It was really ironic imo that for years I've been writing stories and now a story was deciding what would come of my life in the near-future.
I was at a friend's house that lives near the school that Thursday, and the two of us (the girl and I) planned to meet after cheerleading ended. Things went well, all except for she said she wasn't yet ready for a relationship, because she'd had bad experiences with them in the past. Fine with me, I could wait. Then when we were talking a few nights down the road, she said that she trusted me enough to enter a relationship and asked if I would be her boyfriend. I agreed, after making sure that she was ready for this and that I didn't want to force her into anything. We talked on the phone and texted a lot the next few days and I met her that Thursday as well. We walked down to Sheetz holding hands and on the way back she told me about her past-boyfriends. She was abused by a few boyfriends in the past, nearly(?) raped, chased with an axe by one boyfriend, and many, many more things. She used to be addicted to pills, used to smoke (she quit a few weeks ago when I asked her to), and was also very bullimic. Knowing her as this sweet, Christian girl I was astonished, even though I already knew she had lived a troubled life in the past I could never imagine her going through all this. Then she told me (in a nervous, fragile voice, saying that she knew I would be mad at her: ) that she wasn't yet ready to be in a relationship and things were moving too fast for her. I said that I was not mad at her and I understood, and would rather her have said that then have had an unhealthy, unhappy relationship, and wait until the time was right.
I went home, broke down, feeling worse than ever, and did a certain thing I cannot talk about on here and I also promised the girl I would never do again. I admitted to it that night and she said she'd spent the day sick, and that she forgave me, but was still "pissed the fuck off, but I'll (as in herself) get over it."
Our conversations grew shorter and harder, and she'd only respond to me with one or two word answers. Yesterday I got a little further and she admitted that she's been "feeling shitty lately, okay!?" and it's been going on since Thursday after Sheetz. Instantly I think that it's because of bringing up bad memories and I remember the one thing she asked of me when I said that Thursday after we'd (temporarily?) broken up in response to how I could make her happier "Just be a good friend and be there for me." I promised I would, and now looking back on it I feel like she was trying to tell me specifically about how she would get. At times I can get her to cooperate and allow me to try to help her (which I honestly don't think I can do alone), but the next second she's yelling at me saying how irritating I am and that I'm wasting my time. I can't just leave her this way, but I'm also afraid to tell anybody else, but I told a good friend of both of ours how she was acting and he responded that he had talked to her just that day and she was just the same as usual. Is she fucking with me? Is this supposed to be pay-back for breaking the promise? He said that he doubted that, and he'd talk to her today. (He used to date her and would help her with her eating disorder, making sure she'd eat properly at lunch. When they broke up he called her a "crazy bitch!" but they eventually stayed close friends again and talk regularly.)
I'm just really concerned about her and want her back to being the great person she used to be, even if it's just as my friend. It's like she's become a totally different person and I have no idea how to help her. The last thing she said to me was:
"No offence but you're not my therapist. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go shove my finger down my throat until I'm satisfied with myself. Peace out, nigga."
And I doubt if I text her she'll respond and I don't think calling would be a good idea either. What should I do!?
Tweek
08-23-2009, 12:18 PM
The only thing that came to mind after reading this is: How old is she?
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-23-2009, 01:11 PM
She's only fifteen, all the more reason that she needs help while she's still within reach at all. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to text or call her today, I may wait until tomorrow...
Jon Lyrik
08-23-2009, 01:31 PM
You don't want to deal with damaged goods romantically. Especially as a teen. No offense, dude.
What do you mean by this?
Just intolerably insane parents.
Heisenberg
08-23-2009, 01:55 PM
I agree with JL here, She obviously had problems that you at your age have no idea to help with.
No offense intended here gingy (you know I luv ya) but reading back on your posts and thinking about some of the questionable behaviour you have admitted to doing. You, yourself need some sort of help if I'm being brutally honest.
It's not fine or right to pass your behaviour off as being normal, or being in the norm with usual teenagers. I know you said you have stopped the self harming, but obvious you have not. Reading your last post it's obvious you have did it since you said you had 'given up'. I really advise you to see somebody about this, a school counceller or even a therapist, as crazy as that sounds.
What your doing not is not good at all, instead of telling a responsible adult figure that can offer you actual help, your posting your problems on a board which nobody here can truly help you with.
I wish you all the best Gingy, I really do. Hopefully you take my advise.
Tweek
08-23-2009, 02:22 PM
She's only fifteen, all the more reason that she needs help while she's still within reach at all. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to text or call her today, I may wait until tomorrow...
Okay, fifteen? Does your school have a psychologist or counselor? Go to them. They might be able to help her, and you. Her problems sound like they're not within your ability to help. I hope that doesn't sound insulting. I didn't intend it to be insulting.
Oh, and I've heard good things about 1-800-DONT-CUT.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-23-2009, 03:40 PM
Umm...I am quitting, on my own. As far as the girl goes, our friend said she's doing okay, but she told him not to tell me that. I don't know what's going on, but there's nothing else I can do for her I guess. :(
countchocula
08-23-2009, 05:18 PM
Umm...I am quitting, on my own.
I don't buy that for a second. Look, you really shouldn't post this shit here. We're a bunch of strangers that you'll never meet, and in the end, our advice is useless. You're going to do what you want. Forget this girl and focus on healing yourself. You DO NOT have the ability to conquer depression on your own. No one does, especially children (yes, you are a child).
Get professional help.
Shinigami
08-23-2009, 05:46 PM
^I don't want to be rude countchocula, but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. This is my nice way of telling you to shut up your complaining in this thread. If you have a problem with something I'd advise you to contact the appropriate moderators instead of complaining as you have throughout this thread because it's not the sort of thing you want to read on joblo.com. Don't get me wrong, that's an understandable complaint. Go you. But the solution thus far is for you to go away from this thread- and anyone's particular posts- rather than this thread to go away from you.
Remembering Zombievictim's advice from earlier that week (that it's virtually impossible to hold a relationship without texting, because communication is too hard)
I lol'd hard.
Anyways ginger, people handle their shit in different ways. The only advice I have to give is a time honored cliche about backing off and just letting the person know you're there for them if they need you. This is shitty advice to hear when you think somebody is lynching themselves in their closet as we speak, but some people do not handle pressure well, even if it's positive pressure. I've heard of interventions working, but every time I know of one personally the poor fuck everybody is trying to help gets so stressed out by the pressure to quit (whatever harmful activity they're doing) that they completely self-destruct and bottom out. But that's my experience and it doesn't work for everyone.
I have a quick q' for you. Dredge up some of the worst times you've experienced in your life (yay). To yourself. Just have them in your head. Now: if you knew during their despair that someone was out there who you could come to, without judgment, about anything, would that knowledge have helped you through the experience? If so, maybe that's your answer.
The only thing I do know for sure is that from her perspective you aren't the responsible party. You can't tell her what to do or how to handle things. All you can do is help her help herself. You can't teach someone who doesn't want to be taught, and you can't cheer someone up if they want to be depressed. So don't stress about it. Mainly because I have no real advice to give other than empty Hallmark platitudes.
Btw dude you're not exactly being anonymous about your name, so fyi- careful with saying personal things about your friends or family here that are easily distinguishable from your identity. They deserve their own privacy. imo
Heisenberg
08-23-2009, 06:01 PM
^I don't want to be rude countchocula, but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. This is my nice way of telling you to shut up your complaining in this thread. If you have a problem with something I'd advise you to contact the appropriate moderators instead of complaining as you have throughout this thread because it's not the sort of thing you want to read on joblo.com. Don't get me wrong, that's an understandable complaint. Go you. But the solution thus far is for you to go away from this thread- and anyone's particular posts- rather than this thread to go away from you.
I'm sorry Shinigami, but Count is right. How can we possibly help Gingy? We cannot physically take him to see help. We are just advising him to do it. In the end it's up to him, and he isn't helping himself by thinking he can sort it out alone.
You, yourself have admitted to not having anything worthwhile to advise. So it begs the question, are you here to 'help' or are you just here to read about somebody's personal life.
Me, personally? I don't think Gingy should be posting these details about his personal life, and certainly not details that involve self harm and depression in overwhelming detail. You not doing him any favours by giving bullshit advice that aint helping anybody in a millions years.
He hasn't really taken any advice thus far, he has continued to spill his guts about his life. And this new story about wanting to help another 'damaged' person is the most unbelivable yet. Gingy....I ask this as a serious question, do you genuinly want help or are you just wanting us to feel sorry for you. I am really sorry if this sounds harsh, but man, come on...you gotta listen to us and get help.
See somebody in person about this. As much as we all would like to help on here, we really cannot. It's up to you dude.
Shinigami
08-23-2009, 06:08 PM
^The reason I'm saying what I am is because I don't see (much) of this as a big deal. Maybe ginger will regret posting so much personal information on a movie messageboard when he's older, but that's his problem.
Generally speaking, communication has never done anything to incite further misery. It's good to get out there and talk about your shit. If you're uncomfortable about it in real life and want to turn to an internet board, knock yourself out. Talk talk talk.
If the moderators have a problem with this kind of discussion going on, I have nothing to say to them. It's their forum. That's why I advised countchocula to contact a moderator if he had further problems.
zombievictim
08-23-2009, 06:34 PM
Woah Gingy. You wrote my advice WAAAAYYY out of context. I said that's the case in TEEN relationships.
Shinigami
08-23-2009, 06:40 PM
Zombie- may I call you zombie? Zombie, we need to have a frank discussion about your texting problem. Everybody here loves you. Don't we everybody? Yes, everybody here loves you. But enough is enough. Yesterday you were thrown out of the wal-mart for refusing to communicate with the cashier using anything but text messages even though you knew full well that she couldn't speak or read English.
Your girlfriend is here, zombie. She doesn't want to be shown an emoticon whenever you climax. It's just not right.
You're among friends. We're going to help you.
zombievictim
08-23-2009, 06:54 PM
Who said I have a problem?! It's YOU who have the problem! You're all crazy see! I'll show you! You'll all see!
Reigh Kaufman
08-23-2009, 07:09 PM
Who said I have a problem?! It's YOU who have the problem! You're all crazy see! I'll show you! You'll all see!
No. U will C. LOL. TTFN.
:)
Jon Lyrik
08-23-2009, 08:16 PM
(sigh)
Reigh Kaufman
08-23-2009, 08:28 PM
(sigh)
I remember when you were a just a little lad, Jon.
;)
This will pass. Meanwhile, to avoid this forum becoming too morbid, ging can PM me as I have plenty of training in such matters, as well as friends who can offer genuine, professional advice that will help deal with such emotive issues.
Take it. I may not even charge you.
echo_bravo
08-23-2009, 08:30 PM
Three months ago, girl I eyeballed for years: "Well, you're a Great Guy™, but I don't want a relationship right before I go off to college."
Today, on Facebook: "Mary Jane Rottencrotch is in a relationship with Haywood Jablowme." And Haywood Jablowme is a) Not going to college with her, b) Went to school with us.
Lying bitch, just like I guessed. Insult my intelligence, will ya? May her asshole be torn asunder by big, veiny, anus-shattering cocks.
That is indeed a kick to the nads Jon.
BUT once you are in college, you will look back at high school at just shake your head and laugh. Thats what I did when my freshmen yr of college. It was like night and day.
Tweek
08-23-2009, 09:16 PM
Ha Jon Lyrik "trademarked" "Well, you're a great guy" I call dibs on "You're a great girl but..." Hear that? Dibs.
Reigh Kaufman
08-23-2009, 09:18 PM
Ha Jon Lyrik "trademarked" "Well, you're a great guy" I call dibs on "You're a great girl but..." Hear that? Dibs.
I call dibs on "You call that a penis?!"
LordSimen
08-23-2009, 09:22 PM
I wouldn't say I've ever found love in my life, but I have had my heart broken as well as torn out in the past. Not much that I find worth talking about, but I will say one of the STRANGEST experiences I ever had involving asking a girl out was when I had asked a girl out back in my senior year of high school and she eventually turned me down by tellin me I wasn't her type. I became friends with her afterward because she was still a cool girl, but finally when she got her next boyfriend I noticed something very weird about it: He was exactly like me. I wasn't the only one who noticed it either, our other friends noticed it to. Big fat guy, goatee, glasses, loves movies (horror in particular), digs heavy metal and rock, a huge pussy in most situations- It was like lookin' at my doppleganger! Haha. He and I hit it off though, and we're still buds now. Those two are gettin' married in January. Wish them well.
Tweek
08-23-2009, 09:35 PM
I call dibs on "You call that a penis?!"
Hmm. I'll see your "You call that a penis?!" and raise you a "My eeeeeyyyyeeeesssss!" (It makes sense. Trust me.)
FireCaptain4
08-23-2009, 09:59 PM
I always get a "Wait, were you talking to me?" after my confessions of love.
I always have to pull a, "nah... just... rehearsing for... a play-- a play, Shakespeare..." and walk away from the shame.
Tweek
08-23-2009, 10:21 PM
I always get a "Wait, were you talking to me?" after my confessions of love.
I always have to pull a, "nah... just... rehearsing for... a play-- a play, Shakespeare..." and walk away from the shame.
When I've asked guys out I've gotten plenty of:
http://rlv.zcache.com/laughter_smiley_sticker-p217314811406855829qjcl_400.jpg
and some
http://i32.tinypic.com/dcy9s5.jpg
I'll stop... :p
Jon Lyrik
08-23-2009, 10:45 PM
Yeah, guys are dicks. It's rarer for them to get approached, though.
I remember when you were a just a little lad, Jon.
;)
I'm still a little lad. Just with a lot of hair and Paul Robeson's voice.
BUT once you are in college, you will look back at high school at just shake your head and laugh. Thats what I did when my freshmen yr of college. It was like night and day.
I'm going to community college because I'm a fuckup. Two more years, goddammit. Maybe one.
Tweek
08-23-2009, 11:26 PM
Yeah, guys are dicks. It's rarer for them to get approached, though.
Eh, some of have been nice about it fortunately.
g1ng3rsnap9ed
08-24-2009, 11:34 AM
Holy wow, I can't pull off one post in this Thread that isn't controversial. Anyways, depression, self-mutilation, and the likes of which are forbidden in the JoBlo Forums, which is why I hinted at it earlier (well, maybe not the depression, but that wasn't my own so it doesn't count, right?). Maybe we should drop it and just know that everything with me is alright.
^I don't want to be rude countchocula, but if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. This is my nice way of telling you to shut up your complaining in this thread. If you have a problem with something I'd advise you to contact the appropriate moderators instead of complaining as you have throughout this thread because it's not the sort of thing you want to read on joblo.com. Don't get me wrong, that's an understandable complaint. Go you. But the solution thus far is for you to go away from this thread- and anyone's particular posts- rather than this thread to go away from you.
Umm...thanks for "sticking up for me," Shinigami, but the Count's complaint was made with the best intentions. He wasn't being rude, and if anything was just straight-forward in giving what he believes is the best advice. Will I seek professional help? Probably not, unless I do at one point realize that I need help beyond my own reach, which perhaps I do, but for now I'm doing just fine. (One thing I'm going to start doing is calling a friend to talk so I won't feel alone when I'm down, or just going downstairs and talking with family.)
Woah Gingy. You wrote my advice WAAAAYYY out of context. I said that's the case in TEEN relationships.
Sorry about that, Zombie. But this rule doesn't only apply to teens, my mother texts creepy guys she meets online or at skanky bars all the time. :D
NuclearMisfit
08-24-2009, 02:15 PM
I wish I was in love and able to find Ms Right. Not that Im picky its just I dont really have anything to offer a woman right now and I'm one of those guys who likes to take care of his lady friends and would not want to bring her into the drama right now.
Shinigami
08-24-2009, 04:42 PM
Umm...thanks for "sticking up for me," Shinigami, but the Count's complaint was made with the best intentions. He wasn't being rude, and if anything was just straight-forward in giving what he believes is the best advice. Will I seek professional help? Probably not, unless I do at one point realize that I need help beyond my own reach, which perhaps I do, but for now I'm doing just fine. (One thing I'm going to start doing is calling a friend to talk so I won't feel alone when I'm down, or just going downstairs and talking with family.)
Uh no, countchocula's posts were annoying to me in this thread. That you happened to incite him is just a coincidence. I was less defending you than sticking up for my not wanting to be annoyed by his posts in this thread since otherwise I love his posts. :p
Frankly I think people are getting too dramatic about you. So you injure yourself sometimes. So you're a little bit up and down. So you killed that one girl who didn't like you and now wear her skin on Halloween night. It's no big deal. Why, if everyone had to seek professional help just because they were a harm to themselves and others and killed someone and then wore their skins as clothes on festive evenings, I'd be in the loony bin right now!
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Wolves/dr_phil.jpg
As for Tweek, let me give you some advice on your relationship problems because nothing makes me feel more in control of my wildly out of control life than telling someone else how what to do and when to do it. The reason you might have complications getting Mister Right to date you is because you like boy things like comic book and movies and that's weird. Okay.
countchocula
08-24-2009, 05:12 PM
I'm not sure how I annoy you, but the best advice anyone here can give G1nger is to SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP. He has also broken a couple of rules, and I should know. I was a moderator for a long while before I had to give up the job (no, I wasn't fired).
Cutting is a serious issue, as is depression. With all due respect, you are wrong to trivialize such things.
countchocula
08-24-2009, 05:15 PM
G1nger, I want to clarify that I'm not angry with you. You're a cool kid. But in my estimation, you need some tough love. It's simply not appropriate to post certain details here. In fact, it's downright pointless if you're not going to listen to us when we tell you to get help. You can't expect anything else from us.
zombievictim
08-24-2009, 05:16 PM
PLEASE!!!
Keep all talk of "cutting", suicide and depression OFF the board.
Heisenberg
08-24-2009, 05:26 PM
Gingy, i'm done with 'feeling sorry' for you. all your doing is posting sad stories and rejecting our advice.
You should only post that shit if you want advice on what to do. What your doing is totally inapropriate.
Shinigami
08-24-2009, 05:53 PM
I wish I was in love and able to find Ms Right. Not that Im picky its just I dont really have anything to offer a woman right now and I'm one of those guys who likes to take care of his lady friends and would not want to bring her into the drama right now.
I say similar things to myself because I don't fully commit to relationships. Atm I'm most comfortable and happy just playing it at a safe distance. If you're like me, do you think we're actually doing this because of what you said- because Oh, I'm not in a stable career yet and I couldn't support a family so why get too serious? and Well I'm still dealing with my own troubles and I'm not fully able to devote myself to another and so on... or do you think they're just excuses because of commitment issues? Every time I hear someone else echo them it sounds like an excuse.
I've not yet figured out an answer for me personally cuz I'd rather not commit to making a decision. :D
Highspeed
08-24-2009, 05:53 PM
Jesus what the hell did I start with this thread?
echo_bravo
08-24-2009, 05:56 PM
Jesus what the hell did I start with this thread?
You created a monster!!!;)
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