Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part I

[sbunn10]

I know this is early, but with all of the Half-Blood Prince discussion, I've been thinking about the next installment even more. I just re-read the book, and I've gotta say, there's a lot of potential for awesome.

However, reading the book again made me wonder... where will they cut Part I off? After getting a little more than halfway through the book, I found that there is a significant lack of a climactic event that I can see them ending Part I with. The Gringotts bank scene will take a long time, and is worthy of being the climax, but that's too near the end not to be in Part II.

Another thing that stood out to me is the predicament they've created by destroying the Burrow, and the absence of Bill and Fleur in the Half-Blood Prince film. Bill and Fleur's wedding is somewhat of a large event in the 7th book, and Harry visits their cottage later in the book. Can somebody say awkward? I've found some production pictures that are of the cottage, but will they leave Bill and Fleur out completely? I sure hope not.

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What do you schmoes think?


Also, do any of you schmoes know of any casting news for the next films? I know that they're halfway through shooting (thus already/nearly finished with Part I). Will John Hurt be returning to play Olivander? Is Maggie Smith well enough to play McGonagall?

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[adamjohnson]

I too wondered about the last two points. Maggie is very old and very sick. She has some dueling to do but her role is still small.

Lets hope John Hurt can return as Ollivander.

And I still maintian the death of a certain house elf will be the cutoff point.

[Bourne101]

Cannot wait for this one. I'm currently re-reading it and once I am finished I will offer my two cents on where I think they should end Part I.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Just getting home from Half-Blood Prince I'm amped as heck for this. I haven't read any of the books, but I know how it all goes down. Does this have a release date yet?

[Bourne101]

Part I is scheduled to be released on November 19th, 2010. Part II is sceduled to be released on July 15th, 2011.

[sbunn10]

And I still maintian the death of a certain house elf will be the cutoff point.


ah, that is very likely. I suppose they can amp up the Malfoy Manor situation a bit.


edit:

I just read that the wedding will be included. Good.

[ScaryFreak1827]

Bill and Fleur not being in Half-Blood Prince isn't too big a deal because their marriage can be explained in a few simple words at the start of Part 1. Just so you know, the wedding has been confirmed and Clemence Poesy is reprising her role as Fleur Delacour (her sister will be returning as well.) Bill Weasley has been cast as well as Viktor Krum. It's interesting that the actor who was recently arrested for pot (Vincent Crabbe) hasn't been cast but his friend (Gregory Goyle) has. Maybe his community service will interfere with filming.

All I know is that if a certain sequence involving a certain snake and a certain woman's neck isn't included than I will be pissed.

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

All I know is that if a certain sequence involving a certain snake and a certain woman's neck isn't included than I will be pissed.

Do elaborate, with a Spoiler Warning posted, of course. ;)

[jolanar]

All I know is I am very thankful that the last book is action packed because the last two movies have been dreadfully boring.

[starcat]

First off, whats wrong with Maggie Smith??? She is awesome, loved her since I first saw Evil Under the Sun back in the early 80s...

SPOILERS!!!!

I really think they should show Dumbledores funeral at the begining of the movie, kind of pissed me off they didnt have it at the end of Half Blood Prince as it was important I thought.

Personally I wish they would do everything except the final battle in the first movie, and the second movie just be one big epic battle scene that would crush all battle scenes before it!!!

[ScaryFreak1827]

Do elaborate, with a Spoiler Warning posted, of course. ;)

Alright, if you must know ;)

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There's a very eerie scene in Deathly Hallows where Harry and Hermione visit the grave of Harry's parents in the town where they used to live (Godric's Hollow.) They encounter a woman who had gone missing, Bathilda Bagshot (a very old woman) who leads them into her house. There's something strange about her mannerisms and she's barely speaking. She leads Harry up into the attic while Hermione waits below and suddenly she starts convulsing. A giant snake (Nagini, the snake from the 4th and 5th films that belongs to Voldemort) suddenly emerges from out of her neck and attacks Harry. You find out that Bathilda had been dead this entire time and was being controlled internally by Nagini/Voldemort. It's been a while since I've read the book but I believe this is how the scene went. VERY scary moment in the book and one that I (and I know a few others) can't forget when we remember it.




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[sbunn10]

First off, whats wrong with Maggie Smith??? She is awesome, loved her since I first saw Evil Under the Sun back in the early 80s...


I agree, she is indeed awesome, and perfect for the role, it's just that she reportedly became very ill during the filming of the Half-Blood Prince. I haven't heard anything about her skipping the final two installments though.

[bigred760]

It would completely suck if Maggie Smith was unable to re-reprise her role for the final films. She did look "older" in HBP than she had in the previous films.

I am looking forward to these last two movies, especially since they're splitting the book in two, and therefore should be able to include most of the book (unlike the last couple of movies).

[g1ng3rsnap9ed]

Alright, if you must know ;)

SPOILERS*****************




There's a very eerie scene in Deathly Hallows where Harry and Hermione visit the grave of Harry's parents in the town where they used to live (Godric's Hollow.) They encounter a woman who had gone missing, Bathilda Bagshot (a very old woman) who leads them into her house. There's something strange about her mannerisms and she's barely speaking. She leads Harry up into the attic while Hermione waits below and suddenly she starts convulsing. A giant snake (Nagini, the snake from the 4th and 5th films that belongs to Voldemort) suddenly emerges from out of her neck and attacks Harry. You find out that Bathilda had been dead this entire time and was being controlled internally by Nagini/Voldemort. It's been a while since I've read the book but I believe this is how the scene went. VERY scary moment in the book and one that I (and I know a few others) can't forget when we remember it.




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Thanks. That indeed does sound awesome. :)

*Major Spoilers for the final book

Okay, I haven't read any H.P. books yet, 'cause I'm waiting for the film series to end, then wait a while after that. (I'm not really sure why, that's just what I've decided to do.) But I do know how it ends and who lives/dies. What if in the film(s) they differentiated from that and had Ron and/or Hermoine die? Like I said, I haven't read the book so I dunno if it would even be possible to do this or not, but I think it could be an interesting spin on things. I'm seriously fascinated in knowing how the story would end had one of them, or maybe even both of them, not make it through.
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[Tonkuro]

It's never too early for an HP movie thread. ;)

I was pretty pissed that Bill and Fleur weren't in HBP as well, especially with Bill's future, err... condition that he must now live with. It was a very sweet moment when Fleur said she'd stick by him regardless and it would have been a nice intro to the couple before we see a frickin' wedding.

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I can see them cutting the first part off after Dobby's death and escaping the Malfoy Manor. Another great cutoff point would be the dream (I think it's a dream) Harry has, where Voldemort manages to get the Elder Wand. I don't remember how far into the book it was though. I think a cliffhanger ending for the first part would be fine since the other one would be coming out quickly if the dates mentioned above are correct.
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[Bourne101]

She did look "older" in HBP than she had in the previous films.

Yeah. Not only older, but she didn't look well at all.

[BlownCamaro]

Yeah. Not only older, but she didn't look well at all.



She has breast cancer right?

[bigred760]

She has breast cancer right?

She was diagnosed last year . . . yes.

[starcat]

That sucks, I hadnt heard that. I hope she beats it.

[SatansPuppet]

To be honest after the disappointment that was the Half Blood Prince, I'm no longer looking forward to the final installment of Harry Potter. How could you mess up a book who's vein is Impending Doom and replace it with comedic love triangles and then take out one of the biggest battles Hogwarts has or will ever see?

Nooooooooooooo ...... they need to get a better script and a better director :P

[jolanar]

To be honest after the disappointment that was the Half Blood Prince, I'm no longer looking forward to the final installment of Harry Potter. How could you mess up a book who's vein is Impending Doom and replace it with comedic love triangles and then take out one of the biggest battles Hogwarts has or will ever see?

Nooooooooooooo ...... they need to get a better script and a better director :P

I agree completely. They absolutely destroyed that book. The little love triangles were cute, sure... but absolutely non essential to the over all story. So much more could have been done.

[starcat]

Uh... the love triangles were totally essential in the books and the movies.

[Vong]

The love-triangles are indeed essential, for Ron and Hermione especially. They have a huge relationship build-up in the last book that has to be predicated. The same has to be said with Harry and Ginny. Although their little break-up in the book wasn't shown in the movie, I'm guessing the film-makers want to keep that relationship solid for the next movies.

This is the first I've heard about Maggie Smith's condition. It will sadden me if she isn't in the last films, and I really hope she gets better.

I really should re-read the last book before the movie comes out (I did that with the HBP), because I can barely remember what goes on in the last book, save for the final battle and all the deaths.

[Vong]

By the way, I just came about this little bit of news regarding the ending of the film.

*Spoilers for those who don't know what happens in the final scene!*

Find out here (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1616386/story.jhtml)!

[Satans Puppet]

Uh... the love triangles were totally essential in the books and the movies.

But not as a main story arc.. the actually plot seemed secondary to the main plot of the book... we only found out about the horcrux' near the very end of the film and Lord Voldermorts back but ummm yeah, look everyone's in love and no one really seems to care at all.

Nah... awful film in which the love triangles could have EASILY been explained away as they were in the goblet of fire, small, contained looks or lines that conveyed the irritation of the characters when they were with other people :)

Lets hope the same mistake is not made again :)

[bigred760]

The love-triangles are indeed essential, for Ron and Hermione especially. They have a huge relationship build-up in the last book that has to be predicated. The same has to be said with Harry and Ginny. Although their little break-up in the book wasn't shown in the movie, I'm guessing the film-makers want to keep that relationship solid for the next movies.

Well, in the movie all they do is kiss. There is some build up to their relationship, but nowhere near as much as the book. It's never really confirmed that they're "dating" in the movie. No real need for a break-up at this point.

[Frosty_86]

I cant wait for Deathly Hallows. I thought Half Blood Prince was the best movie so far even though there was alot that they changed from book but as a movie it was excellent, I try not to compare books to movies they are two different mediums of entertainment. Now that Im done with Salem's Lot Im going to read HBP and Deathly Hallows again because there was alot that Id forgotten about.

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I would say the first part will end with fight between the snake and the kids.
The two scenes that are really going to hit me hard are when Mad-Eye dies and when Lupin and Tonks die. Shits gonna tear me up.
I cant wait to see Neville turn into Rambo. That was great.
I bet people are going to lose it at the end and the kids are older and sending their kids to Hogwarts and Harry says his son's name, that shit got me when read the book and its giving me chills thinking about it. Im happy that their making it to where the kids will play the older versions of themselves and not some other actors so that we can have the final image of those characters be the same people that we saw from the first one.

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Ive enjoyed all the movies (I almost cried at the end of the last one because I knew there werent gonna be anymore but every saga must have an end) and Im going to be sad to see the series end but I cant wait to see what they do with it, Yates is two for two so Im confident about Deathly Hallows.

[sbunn10]

How could you mess up a book who's vein is Impending Doom and replace it with comedic love triangles and then take out one of the biggest battles Hogwarts has or will ever see?

Nooooooooooooo ...... they need to get a better script and a better director :P



One of the biggest battles Hogwarts will ever see? The Hogwarts battle at the end of the Deathly Hallows will reportedly be 30 plus minutes.

I for one think Yates has done an excellent job... but I won't go on about HBP, I've already discussed it in its own thread.

[SatansPuppet]

One of the biggest battles Hogwarts will ever see? The Hogwarts battle at the end of the Deathly Hallows will reportedly be 30 plus minutes.

I for one think Yates has done an excellent job... but I won't go on about HBP, I've already discussed it in its own thread.
And if we get a smidgeon of action in the the deathly hallows then HOORAY but no doubt even though the wedding is a great plot point... we'll get that as the main plot.

Part One: Preapring for the wedding, mrs Weasly going insane over things... Oh yeah and there's like this evil dude but it don't matter cause everyone's happy and all kissy kissy while the bad folks are doing stuff.

Part Two: Oh look at this pretty antique candle stick, OH It's Horcrux harry... Destroy it!!! And look at this, Fluers Something Borrowed and something blue ARE ALSO Horcrux'... GOOD golly... destroyed? Lovely... On with the wedding.

As you can see the last film sorely jaded my view of the franchise :lol:

[sbunn10]

haha, yes I believe it has... have you read the book? Bc it doesn't seem like it. The last book is quite exciting, and the wedding is a very minor scene.

[Satans Puppet]

Read the books when they came out, I think I should revisit them really.. cause I can't remember what went on :) I just know the path the films are taking for the final films do not feel like the Fight/Flight danger or impending doom that I felt when reading the books.

Although if they change the ENDING to the Deathly Hallows I'll be happy... *cough* you know the bit I'm talking about *cough*

[zombievictim]

SPOILERS FOR THE SEVENTH BOOK!!!


Anyone else really wishing they'll get read of Harry's little trip to heaven?

[sbunn10]

SPOILERS FOR THE SEVENTH BOOK!!!


Anyone else really wishing they'll get read of Harry's little trip to heaven?

No way! not at all. That was a great and important scene imo. He and Dumbledore talk everything out and it allows Dumbledore to explain everything to Harry. If they left this scene out, Harry would still be pissed at Albus forever.

[jolanar]

SPOILERS FOR THE SEVENTH BOOK!!!


Anyone else really wishing they'll get read of Harry's little trip to heaven?

They did a very similar thing in Goblet of Fire and I thought it worked out well. Where he talked to his parents and stuff. So I don't see it being much different than that.

[adamjohnson]

SPOILERS FOR THE SEVENTH BOOK!!!


Anyone else really wishing they'll get read of Harry's little trip to heaven?

Lets hope he stays naked too.

[Rawlin67]

it will be interesting to see if they can actually make a movie i like. IMO everything after the third movie (which i feel is the best) has gone to shit, and im incredibly tired of this guy who is supposed to be "the one" bumbling around not knowing what he is doing and just getting lucky all the time thanks to other people getting shit done FOR him. i thought the last one might have been the worst yet, and was incredibly surprised at all the wonderful reviews.

but ive seen the first six, so i cant stop now. ill see this.

[zombievictim]

Hmm. Well according to IMDB, Gambon isn't in Part 1 or 2. Not the most reliable source but a source nonetheless.

BTW, I HATED that scene. So damn corny.

[adamjohnson]

Hmm. Well according to IMDB, Gambon isn't in Part 1 or 2. Not the most reliable source but a source nonetheless.

BTW, I HATED that scene. So damn corny.

They will most definitely be doing that scene. And the one where Voldy, you know, to Dumbledore to get the, you know.

[zombievictim]

I'm still hoping they don't do it. But there's no proof that it's going to be in it yet.

[adamjohnson]

I'm still hoping they don't do it. But there's no proof that it's going to be in it yet.

Which part? Theyve already confirmed the epilogue.

[adamjohnson]

Cool photos:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1202577/Stunt-doubles-seen-shooting-final-Harry-Potter-films-sixth-movie-biggest-selling-flick-UK-box-office-year.html

[Dom Shady]

Next year is going to be awesome, the end of Lost and the beginning of the end of Harry Potter. I can't wait.

[Heisenberg]

cannot bloody wait for this.

[zombievictim]

Which part? Theyve already confirmed the epilogue.

Oh, yeah I know the Epilogue will be in it (with motion capture technology no less). I was referring to Harry's little naked trip to heaven.

[Vong]

AICN did confirm that Michael Gambon will be in the final two movies as both the portrait of Dumbledore and his moment with Harry in the final part. The latter scene is essential to the conclusion of Harry and Dumbledore's relationship. If they didn't include it in the movie we would be left with Harry's final moments with Dumbledore as a portrait and not Dumbledore himself.