Jennifer's Body

[Smiert Spionam]

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4084/jennifersbodyv.jpg

Directed by: Karyn Kusama

Written by: Diablo Cody

Plot: A newly possessed cheerleader turns into a killer who specializes in offing her male classmates. Can her best friend put an end to the horror?

Cast: Megan Fox, Amanda Seyfried, Adam Brody, J.K. Simmons

I hope this film bombs, but considering its got Megan Fox, and horny teenagers still have allowances, I doubt it...

[LordSimen]

Can't fuckin' wait for this movie. :D

[Mr.HyDe807]

I got to admit, I'm a bit interested in this flick. We'll see how it goes.

[Tweek]

Closed until Thursday.

[Tweek]

Re-opened.

[Bourne101]

Looks horrible.

[ilovemovies]

Sept. 18 is a good day. It's the day before my birthday and all 4 movies opening that day look good to me. This is no exception. It looks like it's going to be a blast! :cool:

[phelonious]

This film is all about Megan Fox. How big of a star she actually is. How much Box Office pull she has.

[razgriz21]

I want this movie to be entertaining.

Hoping for the best. Whether it has sexy Megan devouring people and some brutal blood/gore FX.

[Strider]

Looks horrible.

Agreed.

Megan Fox is hotter than Hell, but she's not enough to make me purchase a ticket for this awful-looking "horror" flick. Same goes for Amanda Seyfried, who I like a lot. And J.K. Simmons as well. Not only does Jennifer's Body look awful, but I seriously cannot stand Diablo Cody nor her writing style. Unless this shows up at a discount theater, where I only have to pay $2-3, I'm totally skipping this.

Strider

[echo_bravo]

fuck this shit

[Tweek]

If anything, I'll watch this on DVD. I like Diablo Cody. I just hope they don't try to give Fox any/much comedy...

[Dom Shady]

I'll catch this one on HBO in a year.

[Smarmy Douche]

The banner ad for this is annoying.

[Bourne101]

Reviews are coming in from the TIFF and apparently it really sucks.

[razgriz21]

Reviews are coming in from the TIFF and apparently it really sucks.

It has to be better than Terminator Salvation and Wolverine.

[MisterChristian]

Here's my friend's review of Jennifer's Body:


TIFF 2009 QUICK REVIEW: "JENNIFER'S BODY"

Diablo Cody’s much-anticipated follow-up to her Oscar-winning indie hit “Juno” has been salaciously marketed as an homage to 80s horror films with the bodacious “It” girl Megan Fox as a succubae Freddy Krueger, but it turns out that “Jennifer’s Body” is not particularly effective or interesting as a horror film per se. Directed with bland efficiency by Karyn Kasuma (whom no one will confuse with the second coming of John Carpenter or Wes Craven…or even Fran Rubel Kuzui for that matter), it works best when it plays up Cody’s mojo as the nought-generation’s heir to the throne of the late, great John Hughes, whose distinctive 80s works bestowed his teenage characters with a depth and dignity rarely seen in commercial cinema and whose influence has been openly acknowledged. In truth, it may be “Jennifer’s Body” but it’s “Needy’s Movie”, Needy being the equally fetching Amanda Seyfried’s combination Molly Ringwald/Final Girl (whose status as "nerd" is confirmed by her baggy sweaters and outdated eyewear--really, Diablo?) who unearths the secret behind her hottie BFF’s sudden change in behavior and diet. There are some standout moments—the fire that destroys the local roadhouse and claims the lives of several students and teachers echoes DePalma’s “Carrie” and the tragic 2003 Great White concert in Rhode Island, the fallout of trauma and mourning for students and staff is nicely observed, and the flashback to Fox’s brutal sacrifice at the hands of a vacuous, demonology-obsessed emo band is truly chilling, esp. with Adam Brody and his mates merrily crooning Tommy Tutone’s “867-5309/Jenny”. JK Simmons, Amy Sedaris, and Lance Henriksen turn in welcome cameos. True to modern day genre form, there’s plenty of gore and R-rated sex chat, but no nudity whatsoever (save for a fleeting skinny dip, shot from a thousand miles away), and I was at times irked by Cody’s brand of teenspeak jargon, which some viewers past “a certain age” will find only slightly more intelligible than Alex DeLarge’s narration in “A Clockwork Orange” (turns out if you’re “salty”, then you’re da bomb…sorry, what decade is it?...).

[Smiert Spionam]

Diablo Cody’s much-anticipated follow-up to her Oscar-winning indie hit “Juno” has been salaciously marketed as an homage to 80s horror films....

Why is it that whenever a writer tackles a genre that they've never done before and it becomes fairly obvious that its gonna suck, they always say that their film was always meant to be an "homage" to B movies or bad genre films. Its such a fuckin' cop out. "Yeah, I know my dialogue was trite, cliche, and cheesy.... but it was SUPPOSED to be that way!"

Get fuckin' real.

[LordSimen]

Except 80's horror films don't suck. So there goes that theory.

[Smiert Spionam]

Except 80's horror films don't suck. So there goes that theory.

"What, did you really think that I wouldn't come back to check on my adopted baby brother?!"

If that sentence doesn't scream bad exposition to you, then yes, I can see how you would think that most 80's horror films don't suck.

[LordSimen]

Back-handed insults in an attempt to get me to insult you back. Clever. Try harder though, maybe you'll get someone to fall into your trap one day.

[Smiert Spionam]

Back-handed insults in an attempt to get me to insult you back. Clever. Try harder though, maybe you'll get someone to fall into your trap one day. .

Hmmm..... I think you're confusing YOU with ME, a mistake that I sincerely hope that no one else makes around here.

[LordSimen]

Nope. Pretty sir I'm talking about you. Keep trying though. It's amusing. :D

[dfd3657]

Megan Fox is hot, but that's not going to get my to pay 9 bucks to see this in theaters. I'll wait to Netflix it.

[daddiefatsacks]

i liked it.

just saw it at the TIFF, and can't really complain. It's pretty dark with its humour, there's some decent gore, and lots of laughs. Adam Brody is actually wicked as the lead singer of "Low Shoulder".

Megan Fox might be first billed, but Amanda Seyfried is the main character. This was an enjoyable movie with a big crowd, lots of clapping and cheering at certain points, and im sure that effect my viewing pleasure. Would i watch this again? Probably not...but I was definitely entertained for the 1 hr and 45 minutes i was watching it.

As shitty as an actress Megan Fox may be, she plays this role perfectly.

7/10

[QUENTIN]

Looks horrible.

fuck this shit

Yep.

Juno was a good story with horrible dialogue saved mostly some really strong performances from good actors.

This movie is a bad story with horrible dialogue and no good actors. No thanks.

[ilovemovies]

Ouch.

http://www.reelviews.net/reelthoughts.php?identifier=601

[Smiert Spionam]

Its currently sitting at 17% on RT. Grant it, there's only 7 reveiws, but still.... not lookin' good.

I hope this film proves that not only is Megan Fox highly overrated, but Diablo Cody's overnight success was nothing more than a fluke.

[LordSimen]

Corny as fuck unbelievable dialogue can be just as good as believable dialogue.

[Smiert Spionam]

Corny as fuck unbelievable dialogue can be just as good as believable dialogue.

To you, maybe.

But either way, we're not here to talk about what makes good dialogue or whether 80's horror films sucked ass or not. The subject is this abysmal piece of shit film opening soon.

[brodeurnumber1]

Yep.

Juno was a good story with horrible dialogue saved mostly some really strong performances from good actors.

This movie is a bad story with horrible dialogue and no good actors. No thanks.

Amanda Seyfried is a more talented actor than most of Juno's cast. Not that it will make a difference but still.

[bigred760]

I have no interest in seeing this. Megan Fox is nice to look at, but she seems to only be hot when she's "made up," very little seems natural about her. She's not enough to make me go see this, nor is Diablo Cody . . . even though I enjoyed Juno.

[Tweek]

FYI: I moved the posts discussing general horror dialogue into the following thread:


http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132471


So go there!

[Smiert Spionam]

Thank you, Tweek.
I'm gonna take you out for a lovely seafood dinner and I WILL call you again. :D

[Tweek]

Thank you, Tweek.
I'm gonna take you out for a lovely seafood dinner and I WILL call you again. :D

I'm nothing like that Dorothy Mantooth. ;)

[ericdraven]

Corny as fuck unbelievable dialogue can be just as good as believable dialogue.

You are actually defending this movie? that's good to know.

[Smiert Spionam]

I'm nothing like that Dorothy Mantooth. ;)

Ahh well........................ I'll still call you. ;)

"I thought you only killed boys?"
"I go both ways."

Really, Diablo........really? And you wonder why people wonder why you have an Oscar. :rolleyes:

[LordSimen]

You are actually defending this movie? that's good to know.

Of course I am. It looks like a fun good time. :D

[Gilpesh]

You know. If the trailers can't make me want to see this... some stupid banner ad that shows off Fox's cleavage ain't going to help.

[Ratlehed]

You know. If the trailers can't make me want to see this... some stupid banner ad that shows off Fox's cleavage ain't going to help.

I had no thoughts on this film. It just looks like a stupid horror flick thats gonna cash in on Megan Fox's 15 mins. of fame. But after all these annoying ads on this site for like the last 2 weeks- I really have grown to hate this movie. I hope it bombs or at least does as bad as Sorority Row.

[Gilpesh]

I hope it bombs or at least does as bad as Sorority Row.
I'm going to have to agree with this. Cause I think Megan Fox really needs a humbling.

[Venus Venusia]

You know. If the trailers can't make me want to see this... some stupid banner ad that shows off Fox's cleavage ain't going to help.

It keeps popping up and pissing me off! lol

[razgriz21]

I hit the close icon that comes with it. No problems.

Besides, the movie looks entertaining and comedic at times.

[Lat er al]

Cant wait to see this...looks fun and entertaining. I think some of you should consider try watching certain movies with a different perspective. For example, if you hold a slasher flick to the same standards as movies like The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption and other movies of that stature; you simply will not enjoy it as much, because it will never meet those standards.

A movie does not have to be "good" to be enjoyable or really fun to watch.

[Smiert Spionam]

I would never hold this bullshit to the standards of Godfather or Shawshank, but I will hold to the standards of good horror films that don't play on generic archetypes and worn out cliches, which this film obviously does.

*shrug*

P.S. Big ups to Ohio, Lat er al. Welcome to the boards. :cool:

[EDsoulsurvive*]

so pumped for this movie. i think the critiques (and all of you) are being super harsh on it because of the current megan fox backlash (you know, or because it sucks). still, i think it's going to be a blast, and if it came out around Halloween people would have a different attitude towards it (that is if fox stayed out of the spotlight for the month of september). remember when us horror hounds were stuck with watered down PG-13s for like two years after The Ring? Bring on Jennifer's Body.

[LordSimen]

It's solely because of the stupid Diablo Cody backlash in combination with the Megan Fox backlash, never mind the fact that the role is practically tailored at this point to fit Megan Fox so it won't fucking matter and also never mind the fact that Diablo Cody is a fantastic freakin' writer with (gasp) intelligent and clever dialogue. But who cares what the naysayers have to say anyway, this movie looks fuckin' fun and I have a few friends who went and saw it last night who can attest that it IS fucking fun, so I can't wait for friday. :D

[Lat er al]

thanks, i go to UC so I actually live in Cincinnati most of the year ;-)

anyways, i know using The Godfather and Shawshank is an exageration...just using it for my point. I used to always pick movies apart and notice their plot holes and unnatural dialoge. Once I started being less critical on every film I saw, I started to enjoy a lot more kinds movies.

[FireCaptain4]

I've finally come down with an anti-Megan Fox attitude. I didn't mind her all that much just a week or so ago. Granted, I've never found her very attractive (I kid you not, she doesn't arouse me. Kate Mara? Claire Danes? Rachel McAdams? :o:p Megan Fox? :(... not so much). I guess it's because she just comes off too damn skanky for my tastes. I'm not sure.

Well, my hate mainly stems from seeing her everywhere the last week or so. She's on JoBlo in pop-ups, on my TV doing interviews, on my TV with TV spots, saying anti-Michael Bay sentiments, getting hated upon by Bay crew members, and posters for the film seem to be everywhere. I stepped into Hot Topic the other day and the only merchandise that toppled the amount of Jennifer's Body stuff was Twilight (yeah, we know how that fuckin' goes).

Then there are the mostly negative reviews on RT.

For fuck's sake.

I'll wait until DVD.

[Ratlehed]

I thought Juno was a good movie. I saw it once and liked it. It was fun and it had a good story. I dont think I'd watch it again though. But it looked interesting enough to at least watch. Jennifers Body is just a Megan Fox vehicle. It doesnt seem like much thought was put into it other than putting Fox on the poster.

I wouldnt blame Diablo Cody for writing a quickie to cash in while shes still popular.

[ericdraven]

I thought Juno was a good movie. I saw it once and liked it. It was fun and it had a good story. I dont think I'd watch it again though. But it looked interesting enough to at least watch. Jennifers Body is just a Megan Fox vehicle. It doesnt seem like much thought was put into it other than putting Fox on the poster.

I wouldnt blame Diablo Cody for writing a quickie to cash in while shes still popular.

yeah, oddly she cashed in almost 2 years after Juno came out. it's weird.

[brodeurnumber1]

Cant wait to see this...looks fun and entertaining. I think some of you should consider try watching certain movies with a different perspective. For example, if you hold a slasher flick to the same standards as movies like The Godfather or The Shawshank Redemption and other movies of that stature; you simply will not enjoy it as much, because it will never meet those standards.

A movie does not have to be "good" to be enjoyable or really fun to watch.

I really hate when people try to use this excuse for terrible movies.

[Badbird]

I have not seen one poster or trailer at all for this movie. Then I see some TV spots for it just tonight.

Looks pretty bad.

[anakinsrise]

Another flick that gets zero response when the trailers shown at the theatre.

[Venus Venusia]

I've seen ads for the movie on Adult Swim and well, they're not really ads for the movie. They're ads for Megan Fox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG-alWCvdlE

:rolleyes:

[Tweek]

I have not seen one poster or trailer at all for this movie. Then I see some TV spots for it just tonight.

Looks pretty bad.
After District 9, I was waiting for a friend to get out of the restroom by the condiments and stuff. I saw this little old guy with his walker come out. He slowly turned and stared at the Jennifer's Body poster with his jaw dropped for a disturbing amount of time. Creepiest thing I've seen in awhile.

[razgriz21]

Well, I'm not expecting it to be great but at least entertaining with a few laughs.

[LordSimen]

Roger Ebert gave this a pretty positive review. Now I officially have someone with some clout on my side so all those guys sayin' shit like "You are actually defending this movie?" can stop asking those questions as if it's there's some universal consensus that I'm somehow defying.

[Smiert Spionam]

Roger Ebert gave this a pretty positive review. Now I officially have someone with some clout on my side so all those guys sayin' shit like "You are actually defending this movie?" can stop asking those questions as if it's there's some universal consensus that I'm somehow defying.

You did give Sorority Row a 10/10.
If that isn't universal consensus defying, I'm not quite sure what is.

[LordSimen]

I can't defy a consensus before a consensus even had a chance to be made in the first place.

[dfd3657]

It's solely because of the stupid Diablo Cody backlash in combination with the Megan Fox backlash, never mind the fact that the role is practically tailored at this point to fit Megan Fox so it won't fucking matter and also never mind the fact that Diablo Cody is a fantastic freakin' writer with (gasp) intelligent and clever dialogue. But who cares what the naysayers have to say anyway, this movie looks fuckin' fun and I have a few friends who went and saw it last night who can attest that it IS fucking fun, so I can't wait for friday. :D

My biggest problem with Juno was that Diablo Cody was trying to hard to be hip with half of the dialogue and all her pop culture references. "This is so much better than Suspiria." Seriously? "Either I just peed my pants or, um...THUNDERCATS ARE GO!" And I don't remember the last time I ever heard a teenager say "Oh my blog." People tried to defend it saying "It's realistic teen dialogue." Have you ever met a teenager before?

Now, after saying this you might think I don't like Juno; as a matter of fact I like it a lot. But Diablo Cody's writing wasn't the only reason it was good. Ellen Page is a great lead for the film; Megan Fox, not so much.

[LordSimen]

:rolleyes: Yeah, and cops don't say "Yippie Ki-Yay-Mother Fucker," but for some reason we all manage to cope.

[Tweek]

My biggest problem with Juno was that Diablo Cody was trying to hard to be hip with half of the dialogue and all her pop culture references. "This is so much better than Suspiria." Seriously? "Either I just peed my pants or, um...THUNDERCATS ARE GO!" And I don't remember the last time I ever heard a teenager say "Oh my blog." People tried to defend it saying "It's realistic teen dialogue." Have you ever met a teenager before?

The only painful line I can remember is "No, it's Morgan Freeman. Do you have any bones that need collecting?" There's another one that I can't remember but when I watched the movie it really bothered me.

The Suspiria part only said to me that her taste in movies might be questionable. People were making a big deal out of her being a teen girl and knowing things about older music and movies. :rolleyes: It's not impossible. I knew a lot about that stuff when I was younger.

Now, after saying this you might think I don't like Juno; as a matter of fact I like it a lot. But Diablo Cody's writing wasn't the only reason it was good. Ellen Page is a great lead for the film; Megan Fox, not so much.

Megan Fox isn't supposed to be the lead IIRC but she's 'hawt' so she's featured more in the ads and crap.


:rolleyes: Yeah, and cops don't say "Yippie Ki-Yay-Mother Fucker," but for some reason we all manage to cope.

But I don't think people were trying to say that Die Hard was realistic. Then again when it came out I was four.

[zombievictim]

I keep hearing such terrible things about this film. When a movie is getting trashed on a college campus, that's when you know it's not gonna be good. These people look forward to everything. There's no way I'll be spending any money on it. Maybe then this will start the process of ridding the world of Diablo Cody and Megan Fox.

[Smiert Spionam]

:rolleyes: Yeah, and cops don't say "Yippie Ki-Yay-Mother Fucker," but for some reason we all manage to cope.

One film is about a teenage girl dealing with an unexpected pregnancy, which happens everyday. The other film is about a cop going up against a group of terrorists holding a high rise hotel hostage, which NEVER HAPPENS EVER.

Please pick another example...

[Mr.HyDe807]

Yeah, considering the reviews I have heard about certain things in the movie, I think I'm gonna skip this one and wait for it to be on demand.

[Heisenberg]

:rolleyes: Yeah, and cops don't say "Yippie Ki-Yay-Mother Fucker," but for some reason we all manage to cope.


That's called a catchphrase, a one liner. The rest of the dialogue is realistic. Sorry, try again. ;)

[ilovemovies]

I don't know if anybody saw Megan Fox on Conan last night, but consider me officially in love with her. :D

[Tweek]

I don't know if anybody saw Megan Fox on Conan last night, but consider me officially in love with her. :D

http://www.msn101.com/content/emoticons/Puke_SKTM8E.gif

[ilovemovies]

Her favorite restaurant is Red Lobster. That's enough for me to love her.

[Venus Venusia]

She was very different on last night's show than how I usually see her. I'm so used to her trying to be crazy and seeming bitchy. She did seem very vulnerable though, seeing as she was very nervous. I wish she didn't feel like she had to put on a show all the time for the media and such, because I thought she was very natural and funny during the interview. With that being said, I'm still not a big fan.

[LordSimen]

One film is about a teenage girl dealing with an unexpected pregnancy, which happens everyday. The other film is about a cop going up against a group of terrorists holding a high rise hotel hostage, which NEVER HAPPENS EVER.

Please pick another example...

I'm afraid I don't understand your point.

[razgriz21]

No Spoilers review (short)

Megan played the role of a demon possessed teenager well. Unfortunatley, it seems that the movie is also focused on her character's best friend (played by Amanda Seyfried) as it is told from her perspective. Don't get me wrong, but I was expecting Megan's character to dominate the movie but I should have looked at the movie poster again to see that both Megan and Amanda had top billing. Another gripe for me was that the killings mostly happened off screen but we got to see the bloody aftermath (I'm a blood and gore person when it comes to horror-comedy)

Overall, Megan is wicked in her role both in acting and looks for this movie. Left me wanting more but solid to an extent.

3/5

[Tweek]

I'm afraid I don't understand your point.

Did you see my reply to you? I think Smiert was trying to say something similar to me. Die Hard, while awesome as heck, was not trying to be realistic and Juno seemed to be. I didn't have a big problem with Juno's dialogue but I didn't think you made an apt comparison.

Anyway, how 'bout that Jennifer's Body ? It's got a 39% on RottenTomatoes. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jennifers_body/

[LordSimen]

When the hell was Juno trying to be realistic? When it wrote a teenage girl who actually thought through how to deal with her pregnancy intelligently rather than reacting with emotion, ignorance and fear as well as managing to have the most fucking understanding parents I've ever seen in my life? Yeah. It was really trying to be realistic. :rolleyes:

[Tweek]

Juno was afraid...I'm not sure where you're getting that she wasn't. She wasn't obvious about it but it was there.

[LordSimen]

Yeah, and she actually looked past that damn fear and made an intelligent decision rather early on in the movie. That doesn't happen often. Especially not with teen pregnancies.

[ilovemovies]

Juno was great and I had no problem with the dialogue whatsoever. Maybe it's a tad on the cutesy side. But eh, whatever. I didn't have a problem with it.

[Tweek]

Yeah, and she actually looked past that damn fear and made an intelligent decision rather early on in the movie. That doesn't happen often. Especially not with teen pregnancies.
If you want to keep talking about Juno, let's do it in this thread I just started:

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3115468

I shall reply to this there. ;)

[Smiert Spionam]

When the hell was Juno trying to be realistic? When it wrote a teenage girl who actually thought through how to deal with her pregnancy intelligently rather than reacting with emotion, ignorance and fear as well as managing to have the most fucking understanding parents I've ever seen in my life? Yeah. It was really trying to be realistic. :rolleyes:

If you've never seen any of these things before, then I recommend you actually spend a little time outside for once.

But following your line of logic (if you can even fucking call it that) according you, a girl who's smart for age with accepting and understanding parents is just as unrealistic as one police officer taking down an entire group of armed terrorists by himself.

Think about how that sounds for minute....

[Tweek]

If you've never seen any of these things before, then I recommend you actually spend a little time outside for once.

But following your line of logic (if you can even fucking call it that) according you, a girl who's smart for age with accepting and understanding parents is just as unrealistic as one police officer taking down an entire group of armed terrorists by himself.

Think about how that sounds for minute....

See the post right above yours. ;)

[Smiert Spionam]

It doesn't matter, I'm sick of getting baited into arguments with this dude....

[LordSimen]

I just thought about it. Still sounds just as unrealistic to me.

On the topic of Jennifer's Body: I'm off to go see it, I'll come back with my thoughts in a few hours. :D

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, your argument that unrealistic dialogue is acceptable in only unrealistic situations completely means that you just justified the dialogue for THIS movie, seeing as this plot is completely unrealistic to the tenth degree. Oh, how I love when contradictions arise. :D

[CyclicNightmare]

If you've seen Die Hard, the one liner in question is pretty realistic and makes sense in context. It's not some cop with a catchphrase. The dialog in Juno is just flat out not the way people talk and it's distracting and annoying.

[Smiert Spionam]

EDIT: Oh, and by the way, your argument that unrealistic dialogue is acceptable in only unrealistic situations completely means that you just justified the dialogue for THIS movie, seeing as this plot is completely unrealistic to the tenth degree. Oh, how I love when contradictions arise. :D

When are you going to learn how to read.

First of all, I never said unrealistic dialogue was acceptable in unrealistic situations. Ever. The point I was trying to make earlier... y'know... the one you failed to understand.... was that the plot of Juno happens all the time. The plot of Die Hard has never happened. Ever. So, subsequently, its impossible to determine what anyone would say given the circumstances since no one has ever been under them. And even then, the two films aren't comparable. At all.

If you've seen Die Hard, the one liner in question is pretty realistic and makes sense in context. It's not some cop with a catchphrase. The dialog in Juno is just flat out not the way people talk and it's distracting and annoying.

Quoted for truth.

[LordSimen]

This movie was FUN! Diablo Cody continues to prove that she has an incredible ability to craft familiar characters in interesting ways to the point where I actually care what happens to them, as well as keep me interesting in what the journey ahead has in store. This film kept reminding me of Gingersnaps, which is a good thing- I fuckin' love that movie. Although I'll say where Gingersnaps succeeded that this movie failed is in it's ending. It's rather anti-climactic, especially after all that wonderful set up. Here's hopin' for a Jennifer's Body 2! Needy's Body! I love Needy. She's so cute. :D

When are you going to learn how to read.

First of all, I never said unrealistic dialogue was acceptable in unrealistic situations. Ever. The point I was trying to make earlier... y'know... the one you failed to understand.... was that the plot of Juno happens all the time. The plot of Die Hard has never happened. Ever. So, subsequently, its impossible to determine what anyone would say given the circumstances since no one has ever been under them. And even then, the two films aren't comparable. At all.

So, basically what you're saying is... Unrealistic dialogue is only acceptable when the plot itself is unrealistic. Thank you for that clarification.

[Smiert Spionam]

*sigh*

I told you people this man can't read.

[Tweek]

Anyway... Amanda Seyfried is cute. I agree, LordSimen.

[LordSimen]

If "Yippie-Ki-Yay-Mother-Fucker" is perfectly acceptable even though a cop would not have said because the movie's plot does not happen all the time, and "Honest to blog" is unacceptable because the plot of Juno does happen all the time- And this, by the way, is what you've stated twice already in this thread, so I'm not making any of that up even in the slightest- then it must be concluded that unrealistic dialogue is only acceptable when the plot itself is unrealistic. This is the conclusion your own thoughts logically draw when you follow it through.

It's not that I can't read sir, it's that obviously you don't even know what your own conclusion is.

[Tweek]

Anyway... Amanda Seyfried is cute. I agree, LordSimen.
Segue fail?

:(

[LordSimen]

She is super cute Tweek. :D A wonderful little actress who has officially piqued my interested in checking out whatever she does in the future.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Anyway... Amanda Seyfried is cute.

She looks like the "before transformation" in a hackneyed teen comedy. Except there is no "after transformation" with her. She actually is the before, and no amount of montage sequences will ever make her cute or gorgeous.

Get your head out of your ass, Tweek.

:mad:

















:p

[Tweek]

She looks like the "before transformation" in a hackneyed teen comedy. Except there is no "after transformation" with her. She actually is the before, and no amount of montage sequences will ever make her cute or gorgeous.

Get your head out of your ass, Tweek.

:mad:


Well, that's a 'before' I can get behind. [pervy wink]

And in which teen comedy was an "ugly" girl actually "ugly"?

[Reigh Kaufman]

And in which teen comedy was an "ugly" girl actually "ugly"?

Pretty in Pink

[Smiert Spionam]

If "Yippie-Ki-Yay-Mother-Fucker" is perfectly acceptable even though a cop would not have said because the movie's plot does not happen all the time, and "Honest to blog" is unacceptable because the plot of Juno does happen all the time- And this, by the way, is what you've stated twice already in this thread, so I'm not making any of that up even in the slightest- then it must be concluded that unrealistic dialogue is only acceptable when the plot itself is unrealistic. This is the conclusion your own thoughts logically draw when you follow it through.

It's not that I can't read sir, it's that obviously you don't even know what your own conclusion is.

No. My conclusion is that its impossible to determine what someone would say given a certain circumstance that has never taken place. The plot of Die Hard doesn't just not happen very often, its never happened.

Ex. Here's a scene. A man is standing out in a field, when suddenly, an alien space craft lands right in front of him. The door opens and two little green men walk out. The man goes... "Holy Guacamole!"

Is this line stupid? Yes. But it can't be considered "unrealistic," because this event has never happened in the history of man. Similarly, an off-duty cop has never taken down a group of terrorists by himself (and just be clear, I never even said "Yi-ki-yi-yay" was unrealistic, because, as Cyclic pointed out, it makes sense within the context of the plot). Meanwhile, if a teenage girl speaks in stupid slang terms to her fellow teenage female friends, this may be believable in context of the character, but its unrealistic because real teenage girls do not talk that way.

But all of this doesn't even fuckin' matter because it has NOTHING to do with with this thread. Thanks a lot, Simen, for yet again, wasting my time....

[DrJellyfingers]

when i saw there were 90 something comments i figured a lot of people were rushing out to see this but alas there are only three of us who actually have.

anyways Jen's Body was very mediocre. Cody wanted to do a high school Evil Dead and the movie's not funny, crazy or bloody enough. there were a few decent scenes and the beginning had me wondering what was going on. but once you find out, it's all pretty lame.
and this is exactly how i would imagine megan fox is in real life minus the people eating.

[LordSimen]

No. My conclusion is that its impossible to determine what someone would say given a certain circumstance that has never taken place. The plot of Die Hard doesn't just not happen very often, its never happened.

Ex. Here's a scene. A man is standing out in a field, when suddenly, an alien space craft lands right in front of him. The door opens and two little green men walk out. The man goes... "Holy Guacamole!"

Is this line stupid? Yes. But it can't be considered "unrealistic," because this event has never happened in the history of man. Similarly, an off-duty cop has never taken down a group of terrorists by himself (and just be clear, I never even said "Yi-ki-yi-yay" was unrealistic, because, as Cyclic pointed out, it makes sense within the context of the plot). Meanwhile, if a teenage girl speaks in stupid slang terms to her fellow teenage female friends, this may be believable in context of the character, but its unrealistic because real teenage girls do not talk that way.

But all of this doesn't even fuckin' matter because it has NOTHING to do with with this thread. Thanks a lot, Simen, for yet again, wasting my time....

You spent a whole lot of time just to reiterating what I already said. It still seems as if you are unaware of what you're actually saying. :confused:

[Smiert Spionam]

That's it.... I really am done with you. There's no point in arguing with someone who continues to just read what they wanna read and take what they want from it.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2614/trollkg.png

[Tweek]

Pretty in Pink

Ringwald doesn't strike my fancy either, but usually in high school movies it seems that all they do is give a very pretty girl glasses and she's supposed to be ugly. I got the impression that's what they did in Jennifer's Body with Seyfried. (But I already know how you feel about her so...nyuh.)

[ilovemovies]

I'm starting to fall head over heels for Amanda Seyfried. Not only does she have a kissing scene with Megan Fox in this but apparently in the upcoming Atom Egoyan flick Chloe, she allegedly has a great, very hot sex scene with Julianne Moore. Consider my ticket for that movie already bought. :p

[APzombie]

I'm going to be honest. I don't think i can sit down for 90 minutes with Megan Fox. I'm sorry, but i just can't. Not after those pathetic robot "movies" and the Simon Pegg disaster.

This girl is a complete waste.

[Heisenberg]

Yet another thread derailed by the notorious LordSimen.


Number 3,000,000 and counting...

[The Postmaster General]

Hell yeah!!! Pretty fucking awesome flick!!! who here can say Oscar nom for Waltz? it's in the bag!!!

[someguy]

Yet another non sequitur by the notorious BubbaStrangelove

Number 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000000 and counting...

[The Postmaster General]

Hey someguy, remember the time we were snowed-in at that cabin, and I told you of my plans to kill off BubbaStrangelove and you hobbled me?

[FireCaptain4]

Has anyone even seen this movie? DrJellyfingers is the only one who has offered up their thoughts on the actual movie, it seems.

[Smiert Spionam]

razgriz (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3115459&postcount=73) offered up a review too...

[Tweek]

Hey someguy, remember the time we were snowed-in at that cabin, and I told you of my plans to kill off BubbaStrangelove and you hobbled me?

You dirty bird! ;)

[LordSimen]

Has anyone even seen this movie? DrJellyfingers is the only one who has offered up their thoughts on the actual movie, it seems.

Huh? http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3115624&postcount=86

[FireCaptain4]

razgriz (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3115459&postcount=73) offered up a review too...

Huh? http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3115624&postcount=86

*smacks forehead*

Wow, I can't believe I missed those.

Anyway, I was attempting to lure this thread back on track.

[Smiert Spionam]

Its clear, to me atleast, no one really has or will give a shit about this movie, which is comforting.

[The Postmaster General]

Oh wow. I didn't realize Megan Fox was in this movie!

[outsyder]

I'm very pleased to see this movie bombed hard. There may be hope for humanity yet.

[razgriz21]

That is awfully harsh.

I mean, I liked the movie but it did not do anything new or shocking. It is a solid 102 minutes for a rainy afternoon and if you like staring at Megan and Amanda.

My review (http://www.joblo.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3115459&postcount=73)

[Blink1984]

Well, I personally enjoyed it. I basically took the same approach I would if I were going on a date with Megan Fox... aka I had pretty low expectations and was just looking for some fun.

It was a pretty entertaining story. Nothing overly special here, but a good enough set up to get you to the carnage/sexy Megan Fox sequences that the previews promised. I particularly liked how she gets to be the way she is. Its definitely a bit odd and is one of those things where you just kind of have to laugh and go with it.

Anyways, if you're looking for a decent flick to check out with a smoking hot chick, some pretty decent comedy, a cute friend, and some interesting kills, check it out. It's as fun as you're willing to let it be. If you go in looking to really compare this to any film like this that you have enjoyed, you will probably walk away unsatisfied.

Just my two cents for my first post.

[Blink1984]

Oh, and I really enjoyed the soundtrack during the movie.. Really solid use of music. That's probably irrelevant to most, but if you're back-and-forth on seeing it, that's another positive in favor of it.

[Duke Nukem]

Right now, I feel like Kyle at the end of the "South Park" episode, in which Cartman inexplicably inherits one million dollars and buys the the local theme park. The world is too unfair, Michael Bay still gets to make movies, and on top of that, a studio was allowed to release crud like "Jennifer's Body." Just as in that episode, there is a happy ending to all the misery. I am so happy that it barely made 7 million in its opening weekend. I don't feel like it deserved to be number one. It looks like putrid garbage to me. As far as I'm concerned, it is putrid garbabe. Other rated R horror movies have recently made their $$$. This movie needed to be made an example of. The few who saw it and enjoyed, I'm glad. At least this film isn't a complete waste of celluloid.

[Mr.HyDe807]

Hmmm, after reading Devin's review on CHUD, I think I'll give this one a shot on friday. His whole outlook on it is pretty much what I was getting from the trailer and such.

[MightyCelestial]

She's still hot.

[RedHead]

...And I thought it was really good. I agree with what some people said on here about the dialogue. It was a bit much and sounded like Diablo was trying too hard, but overall, I thought it was funny and the images were pretty scary. I noticed a lot of Megan Fox dissing, and, yeah, I don't think she's the best actress, but my goodness, she is gorgeous, and it's refreshing to hear (in interviews) that she is intelligent and has a mind of her own.
But back to the movie...Amanda Seyfried was really good, and I wish she was getting a little more attention for her skills in this movie. She was definitely better than Megan Fox, but, sigh, beauty almost always wins over talent in Hollywood.

[LordSimen]

I think people really need to listen to Diablo Cody talk for five minutes. She isn't really "trying too hard," no more than Whedon tries to hard with his dialogue. That's really how she speaks.

[Samfilms]

Josh Whedon has done some crappy stuff (Alien Ressurection ) But his stuff on Buffy , firefly and Serenity is Awesome and his dialogue is great when it is on and it always come off natural.

Diablo Cody comes off more like someone trying his or her best to be like QT and failing miserably.

[x2sexie4ux]

I went to see this movie this past Saturday with a large group of evenly mixed guys and girls. My hopes for the film were lifted somewhat when I noticed a theater attendant checking ID's at the entrance to the movie. Even though we were almost 5 minutes late, the theater was practically empty, and our group made up the bulk of the crowd. Although the movie was quite possibly the worst piece of trash I have ever experienced inside a movie theater, (other films that come to mind are Freddy Got Fingered and Lady in the Water) I did manage to sit through the entire hour and a half of filth squeezing out a few laughs here and there. The music was a welcome relief to horrible dialogue and worse acting. Bottom-line, up-front, Jennifer's Body is another title that will easily be forgotten. The few that do remember it will only know it as an hour and a half of their lives wasted.

[Ender]

Glad to see the Megan debate has died down and we can talk about the actual movie.

The problem with JENNIFER'S BODY is that, if you'll pardon the expression, it doesn't want to go all the way. The premise, marketing, and for that matter title all lean toward wanting to incarnate as a schlocky exploitation-style flick, but it fails to deliver the goods. You can't have a sexploitation film where there's no nudity and the kills happen offscreen (don't worry gorehounds, you at least get to see the mutilated corpses afterwards). JENNIFER'S BODY had the potential to be great trash cinema of a grade and quality rarely seen in the "genre", but it wimped out and left the viewing public with collective blue balls. Even the gratuitous lesbian makeout scene seems more awkward than arousing (contrast with the intentionally awkward teen sex scene from earlier, which is cleverly intercut with a gruesome murder sequence in one of the movie's more succesful turns).

The movie works better as a black comedy than a horror film, especially when Adam Brody shows up to steal the show ("eight six seven five three oh-niiiine..."). Even Fox is kind of funny when she goes into bitch mode, but just as the movie failed to fully capitalize on her sex icon status (in the process possibly damaging it) it also doesn't go far enough on what could have been an ironic before-the-fact lampooning of her burgeoning stuck-up starlet mentality. Pity.

The movie still manages to be clever at times and wickedly fun at others, but everyone involved in its production should take the lesson to heart; either go all out or don't bother showing up, but please, no half-measures.

EDIT: Upon reading Arrow's review, however, I do agree that at least JENNIFER'S BODY tried harder than aoo the lazy, by-the-numbers style genre movies we see most of these days. For that, at least, the film should be applauded.

[EDsoulsurvive*]

This had the potential to be a worthy 2009 companion to Drag Me to Hell, the intentions were there, the talent was there, the plot was there, but as a whole this movie suffered a bipolar identity that at the very least, went down swinging. A major disappointment for me.

5.75/10

[optimusprime24]

I thought the movie was good. I just wish there was more horror.
7/10

[Blink1984]

Gotta agree with Ender. I thought Adam Brody absolutely stole the show every time he was on screen. I'm not even a big fan, but he was great every time he was on.

[ilovemovies]

It's not a great movie but it's nowhere near as bad as it's reputation suggests either. It's more than a little silly but is nevertheless pretty enjoyable. Megan Fox is so much better here than she is in both Transformers movies combined. And Amanda Seyfried is really good.

The dialog has been getting some bad reviews but there was only one instance in the movie that made me notice. It's a line that was used in Juno as well so it must be a favorite of Diablo Cody's.

All in all, the movie is far from great but I enjoyed it. Wish it was released closer to Halloween. Would have been a good movie to see during that holiday.

7/10

[razgriz21]

Gotta agree with Ender. I thought Adam Brody absolutely stole the show every time he was on screen. I'm not even a big fan, but he was great every time he was on.

I wanted to punch him right in his eye liner wearing face but I think his character was made for that reaction.

I'd still watch it now but being the Megan Fox fan I am, I can wait till Blu-Ray (hope there is plenty of deleted footage).

Not a bad movie. It is an chick flick with an edge.

[Kevin Smith fan]

Just saw the film. Overall, I really wanted to like it but there was something about the entire tone of the film that threw me off. The story was a satirical gem, the acting was decent enough, and the direction seemed inspired. I think it may have been that the way this story was told seemed to line up with the same aesthetically obsessed demeanor this film was trying to berate. Plus, not a lot of horror.

68/100

[greekmoviegod]

I wasn't a huge fan of Juno but I thought the writing was original and fun. I was hoping for the same effect on Jennifer's Body. While there was some clever moments, overall it kind of felt like she was hitting the repeat button a little bit. The moments when you wanted it to be scary she was throwing sarcastic at you. She doesn't seem to have the talent to blend her sense of humor in with the horror genre.

Overall a 6/10.

If anyone is interested I wrote a review on a new high-concept blog I have running over here...

http://moviealien.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/jennifers-body-dvd-review/

[Tweek]

I'm going to move this thread because the movie is on DVD. Please post about movies not in theaters in General Movie Talk.