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Bourne101
10-01-2009, 01:24 PM
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Directed by Michael Moore

Written by Michael Moore

Genre: Documentary

Plot Outline: Michael Moore goes around showing people that capitalism is BAD.

Starring: Michael Moore

Rated R for some language.

Runtime: 127 minutes

I can only watch Michael Moore feed his own ego for so long. Likely a pass for me.

jbar1026
10-02-2009, 03:36 PM
i want to see it but its not in my area yet.

APzombie
10-04-2009, 12:09 AM
saw it tonight. In my art theater in downtown Baltimore. I have to say, i've seen all of his other films, but never opening weekend. People were cheering and screaming and applauding, which actually does benefit his latter work really, seeing people being effected and almost participating in the discussion (people were chatting the whole time) made me think twice about Moore.

I really have always loved Roger & Me and Canadian Bacon, though thought F 9/11 was pretty terrible. I think he does wallow in a bit too much sentimentalism here and there with this one but it's for a point at least. I always agree with his heart, but often find myself cross with his executions and his tact. This wasn't so much the case here as i felt i have a much richer understanding with our capitalistic situation in my country than say health care or even the war and it's a discussion the country really needs.

It's a good watch, people should see it and discuss. I enjoyed it more than Sicko.

Vong
10-05-2009, 01:50 PM
I will definately be seeing this, just need to find time to.

Prismatic Sphere
10-05-2009, 01:58 PM
If I wanted to give my money to someone who misrepresents facts, I'd enroll in an Ivy League history course. At least I could openly debate the fucker.

And if I really wanted to be lied to, I'd much rather give my money to a stripper.

AceD
10-05-2009, 02:22 PM
As many have pointed out, the most obvious flaw is Moore's refusal to even sniff at anything negative about Obama and totally dodging the fact that Obama supported the bailout.

That said, I think it's a rather wonderful and heartfelt film -- the arrogant heart of Michael Moore, yes, but heartfelt.

Obviously you can't take anything he says at face value, but as a propagandist he's wildly entertaining. His stunts are as enjoyable and ridiculous as they always are, and his dopey intelligence is, to me, strangely endearing.

I think it's his second best film, behind only COLUMBINE.

The high end of 3/4 stars for me.

Smiert Spionam
10-05-2009, 03:30 PM
I actually finally watched SiCKO today, which was appropriately sickening. Yes, his films obviously have a liberal bias, but some people equate him to the left's equivalent to FauxNews in terms of factual inaccuracies, but I have yet to see any real proof.

Prismatic Sphere
10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
I actually finally watched SiCKO today, which was appropriately sickening. Yes, his films obviously have a liberal bias, but some people equate him to the left's equivalent to FauxNews in terms of factual inaccuracies, but I have yet to see any real proof.

Start with something called selective editing; you know, the same thing O'Reilly does.

Smiert Spionam
10-05-2009, 04:46 PM
Start with something called selective editing; you know, the same thing O'Reilly does.

Anything filmed in real time and shown at a later date is edited with a particular bias in mind, especially anything that's intended to shape or form an opinion.

Saying Moore is like O'Reilly because they both use selective editing is like saying Mark Twain was like Hitler because they were both vegetarians.

Prismatic Sphere
10-05-2009, 04:53 PM
Anything filmed in real time and shown at a later date is edited with a particular bias in mind, especially anything that's intended to shape or form an opinion.

Saying Moore is like O'Reilly because they both use selective editing is like saying Mark Twain was like Hitler because they were both vegetarians.

No. They are alike in that they seek to ram their agendas down everyone's throats using whatever means necessary.

If you want to be naive enough to think that this isn't true; well, that's certainly your perogative.

Smiert Spionam
10-05-2009, 05:14 PM
No. They are alike in that they seek to ram their agendas down everyone's throats using whatever means necessary.

If you want to be naive enough to think that this isn't true; well, that's certainly your perogative.

1. I wasn't saying that Moore and O'Reilly aren't alike, I said that based on the one example you provided, they're nothing alike. In fact, I agree that they both do seek to "ram their agendas down everyone's throats," but my point was that people say Michael Moore is a liar and I'd like to see some proof of this. If you have any, I'd be more than willing to take it into consideration.
2. Naive? .....really? :rolleyes:
3. Prerogative.

Prismatic Sphere
10-05-2009, 05:19 PM
1. I wasn't saying that Moore and O'Reilly aren't alike, I said that based on the one example you provided, they're nothing alike. In fact, I agree that they do both seek to "ram their agendas down everyone's throats," but my point was that people say that Michael Moore is a liar and I'd like to see some proof of this. If you have any, I'd be more than willing to take it into consideration.
2. Naive? .....really? :rolleyes:
3. Prerogative.

It's always when the typo policeman comes out that you know you're dealing with someone who doesn't really have anything of substance to offer.

There is proof of his lies. It has been revealed in earlier threads. Are you gonna make me do the grunt work or do you wanna be a big boy?

Smiert Spionam
10-05-2009, 05:30 PM
It's always when the typo policeman comes out that you know you're dealing with someone who doesn't really have anything of substance to offer.

There is proof of his lies. It has been revealed in earlier threads. Are you gonna make me do the grunt work or do you wanna be a big boy?

Do you wanna not be an antagonist, or do you wanna continue on the path that got you banned the first time, John Galt?

Prismatic Sphere
10-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Here. I found one your excellency:


http://moorewatch.com/index.php/webl...of_truth/P150/

Tweek
10-05-2009, 10:55 PM
I can't stand Michael Moore. No I'm not a conservative, either! :eek:

Anyway, keep it cool in here, Peeps. :p

ericdraven
10-05-2009, 10:59 PM
I can't stand Michael Moore. No I'm not a conservative, either! :eek:

Anyway, keep it cool in here, Peeps. :p

yeah, lets keep the poltics in the poltics forum.

Ender
10-06-2009, 05:12 AM
It would be nice if people could review Moore's movies instead of Moore himself. But really, it doesn't matter what movie he even makes anymore, people will love or hate it based on their broad opinion of him, not anything in the project itself.

CAPITALISM suffers from some of Moore's bad habits, but is roughly on par with his last couple of movies. Ironically, his indictment of corporate welfare would warm the hearts of many irate libertarians, who sadly will not take the time to see the film. The love letter to Obama was a bit much, especially since I was expecting him to take O to task for not following through on his anti-Wall Street campaign talk, but since most of the movie was probably being put together in the early months of the administration (and since we are, to be fair, still in the early months), I suppose it's excusable. He sure does a number on Congress though.

Vong
10-07-2009, 03:55 PM
Yeah! Keep the politics away from a documentary that is political! I mean come on, people! Think!

Badbird
10-08-2009, 02:12 AM
Not as good as Sicko, but still really good.

Companies collecting life insurance on dead employees? Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaking of Jesus, that part was awesome: "It's a preexisting condition... he will have to pay out of pocket."

Ender
10-08-2009, 05:05 AM
Yeah! Keep the politics away from a documentary that is political! I mean come on, people! Think!

I'm just saying, if people are judging Moore's movies exclusively based on their opinion of Moore (which they are) and not even bothering to evaluate the movie itself, that's a problem.

Prismatic Sphere
10-08-2009, 05:15 AM
I'm just saying, if people are judging Moore's movies exclusively based on their opinion of Moore (which they are) and not even bothering to evaluate the movie itself, that's a problem.

Okay. So we shouldn't judge the webs of a spider when we all know that the spider constantly spins snaretraps?

Sound logic there.

Besides, he's already stripped himself of any credibility so what does it even matter?

Vong
10-08-2009, 12:43 PM
John, generally how this goes is that you review movies after you see it...not before. Stop blasting Michael Moore already. We know you despise him. Leave this thread for people who actually will see the movie and will review it properly.

Tweek
10-08-2009, 12:47 PM
Yeah! Keep the politics away from a documentary that is political! I mean come on, people! Think!

I was just trying to remind people to keep it civil.

The Heart Collector
10-08-2009, 01:07 PM
Besides, he's already stripped himself of any credibility so what does it even matter?

releasing newsletters talking about the black menace = credible enough for you to support politically.

hoojib127
10-22-2009, 12:46 AM
It never ceases to amaze me what people think they can get away with once they attain a certain status...though that itself is still not as appalling as how people willingly let themselves get so drunk on power in the first place. Only the most strong-minded, incorruptible people should ever be in a position of power (trouble is, they're a vast minority).

Another solid effort by Mr. Moore, though, honestly, his approach to filmmaking is getting a bit old hat.

Pentangeli
11-01-2009, 08:22 AM
Michael Moore's approach may not be the slickest, and spends too much time being a prankster when he should be getting interviews and providing substance to his argument. But he definitely holds no punches. His film is certainly emotionally invoking, and somewhat of a rallying cry. A gutsy film.

4/4

Chillingworth
11-01-2009, 09:05 AM
The only emotions that movie got out of me were disbelief and vomit. Yes, in this case, vomit is an emotion. Anyway, it never ceases to amaze me that a fat-ass white guy with millions of dollars is the loudest, stupidest voice hollering against the white millionaire. Why the fuck is Michael Moore even here anymore? That's not an "AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!" flag-waving dumbass rhetorical, I mean seriously, if I didn't like something that much I'd just leave. Does he really think he's gonna change the world? He needs to do a better job if he wants to, and present a case that consists of more than pick-and-choose politics that can be counterpointed with little or no effort. I have a sneaking suspicion that I know why he's still here: because he has a great life in America, and our capitalist society is keeping his fat fuckin face full of Cheesy Poofs by railing against it. I wouldn't want to practice what I preach, either, if I was him. I'd just keep on talking about how much it sucks here and how the entire system needs an overhaul into another "ism" while staying clear the fuck away from every place that already has those other "ism"s I'm screaming about. Great job taking advantage of the system, fat-ass, I applaud you. The same way I applaud Bill O'Reilly, for pandering to dipshits who will do anything to support their mouthpiece, including ignoring all the dumbassity that comes along with your bullshit. Hooray.

Pentangeli
11-01-2009, 09:44 AM
The only emotions that movie got out of me were disbelief and vomit. Yes, in this case, vomit is an emotion. Anyway, it never ceases to amaze me that a fat-ass white guy with millions of dollars is the loudest, stupidest voice hollering against the white millionaire.

He's white! and what relevance does that have? :confused:

The documentary wasn't attacking all rich people. The main target was the corrupt banking system and various corporations, and their sinister involvement in U.S politics.

Smiert Spionam
11-01-2009, 10:28 AM
I also enjoyed this film. Yes, Michael Moore does get annoying sometimes, but that doesn't discredit the spotlight he's throwing on the awful distribution of wealth discrepancy we have in this country due to government corruption that's been going on for decades...

screamer581
11-01-2009, 08:49 PM
The only emotions that movie got out of me were disbelief and vomit. Yes, in this case, vomit is an emotion. Anyway, it never ceases to amaze me that a fat-ass white guy with millions of dollars is the loudest, stupidest voice hollering against the white millionaire. Why the fuck is Michael Moore even here anymore? That's not an "AMERICA LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!!" flag-waving dumbass rhetorical, I mean seriously, if I didn't like something that much I'd just leave. Does he really think he's gonna change the world? He needs to do a better job if he wants to, and present a case that consists of more than pick-and-choose politics that can be counterpointed with little or no effort. I have a sneaking suspicion that I know why he's still here: because he has a great life in America, and our capitalist society is keeping his fat fuckin face full of Cheesy Poofs by railing against it. I wouldn't want to practice what I preach, either, if I was him. I'd just keep on talking about how much it sucks here and how the entire system needs an overhaul into another "ism" while staying clear the fuck away from every place that already has those other "ism"s I'm screaming about. Great job taking advantage of the system, fat-ass, I applaud you. The same way I applaud Bill O'Reilly, for pandering to dipshits who will do anything to support their mouthpiece, including ignoring all the dumbassity that comes along with your bullshit. Hooray.



LOL.

Michael Moore is fat!!!

QUENTIN
11-01-2009, 10:24 PM
Svelteness being the key to Rush Limbaugh's success.

ProgWizardry
11-01-2009, 11:11 PM
When I first saw the film title, I thought this was gonna be about Mike's special relationship with fast food.

But alas; just the usual ad hominems and a red herring on top.

screamer581
11-02-2009, 01:50 PM
When I first saw the film title, I thought this was gonna be about Mike's special relationship with fast food.

But alas; just the usual ad hominems and a red herring on top.


I heard that Michael Moore is fat? Is this true??!!

Tweek
11-03-2009, 01:56 AM
I heard that Michael Moore is fat? Is this true??!!

One can never be sure these days.

I can't stand the man, but there are better things to pick on than his weight.