The Unsung Villains...

[syxxpac]

This is in tribute to those overlooked and/or underappreciated villains and the talented bastards that play them. Grubers and Jokers and Stansfields need not apply here, so with that said, here are some of my picks to get the ball rolling:

- Eric Qualen (John Lithgow, Cliffhanger)
- Francis Wolcott (Garret Dillahunt, Deadwood [TV])
- Darryl Revok (Michael Ironside, Scanners)
- John Ryder (Rutger Hauer, The Hitcher)
- Sutter Cane (Jurgen Prochnow, In The Mouth Of Madness)
- Fatima Blush (Barbara Carrera, Never Say Never Again)
- Lt. Hiram Coffey (Michael Biehn, The Abyss)
- Caesar (Joe Pantoliano, Bound)
- Alfredo Grossi (Thomas Kretschmann, The Stendhal Syndrome)
- Pooh-Bear (Vincent D'Onofrio, The Salton Sea)
- Pik van Cleef (Arnold Vosloo, Hard Target)
- Rhodes (Ray Liotta, Identity)
- Curly Bill Brocius (Powers Boothe, Tombstone)
- Jerry Blake (Terry O'Quinn, The Stepfather... The REAL one, I mean)
- Albert Ganz (James Remar, 48 Hrs.)
- Cherry Ganz (Andrew Divoff, Another 48 Hrs.)
- Evelyn (Jessica Walter, Play Misty For Me)
- William J. Johns (Cole Hauser, Pitch Black)

And on and on and on, but I'll stop there. Have at it...

[bigred760]

Lil Bill Daggett - Unforgiven
King Edward I, Longshanks - Braveheart
Sheriff of Nottingham - Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Belloq - Raiders of the Lost Ark
Capt. Levasseur - Captain Blood
Mr. Joshua - Lethal Weapon
Col. Tavington - The Patriot
Al Capone - The Untouchables

[The Postmaster General]

Futureman - Bottle Rocket

:)

[ilovemovies]

Rusty Nails - Joy Ride
Kelly, Timothy Olyphant's - The Girl Next Door
Oliver and Cheryl Lang (Tim Robbins and Joan Cusack) - Arlington Road
The Creeper - Jeepers Creeper 1 & 2
Walter Finch - Insomnia
Sy the Photo Guy - One Hour Photo
Mrs. Marisa Coulter - The Golden Compass
Bo and Vincent (Brian Van Halt) - House of Wax
Tom Ripley - The Talented Mr. Ripley



And if we are including television then:

Arvin Sloane - Alias
Azazle AKA Yellow Eyed Demon - Supernatural
Walt Cummings - 24
Kevin Carroll - 24
Ira Gaines - 24
Ramon Salazar - 24
Andre & Alexis Drazen - 24
Armus (the black oil creature) - Star Trek: The Next Generation


More to come.

[Tagia_Romero]

Alfredo Grossi


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"Hehehehohohoho!"


Jean-François de Morangias- Brotherhood of the Wolf- Vincent Cassel
Suzanne Stone Morretto- To Die For- Nicole Kidman
William Stryker- X2- Brian Cox
Marlow- 30 Days of Night- Danny Huston
Jan Valek- John Carpenter's Vampires- Thomas Ian Griffith

While not from a movie but from a stage production that I saw:

Duke Brachiano- The White Devil- Hugo Weaving

[Pentangeli]

Total Recall
Lori Quaid (Sharon Stone)

Phone Booth
Caller (Kiefer Sutherland

Robocop
Dick Jones (Ronny Cox)

Platoon
Sgt Barnes (Tom Berenger)

Strangers on a Train
Bruno Anthony (Robert Walker)

Rear Window
Lars Thorwald (Raymond Burr)

Full Metal Jacket
Female sniper (Nogoc Lee)

The Proposition
Arthur Burns (Danny Huston)

To Die For
Suzanne Stone (Nicole Kidman)

The Great Mouse Detective
Ratigan (Vincent Price)

Speed
Howard Payne (Dennis Hopper)..."that's our scumbag!"

Broken Arrow
Maj. Deakins (John Travolta)

Arlington Road
Oliver Lang (Tim Robbins)

[ilovemovies]

^^^ The only one that MIGHT constitute as a spoiler is Arlington Road.

Not sure why you put the others in spoilers tags.

[Jig Saw 123]

Joseph Gordon-Levitt as Rex Lewis / The Doctor
Sean Bean as 006

[The Postmaster General]

^^^ The only one that MIGHT constitute as a spoiler is Arlington Road.

Not sure why you put the others in spoilers tags.

I think Total Recall is valid, but yeah.

[Pentangeli]

^^^ The only one that MIGHT constitute as a spoiler is Arlington Road.

Not sure why you put the others in spoilers tags.

And Full Metal Jacket I doubt anyone would have predicted a female sniper. And Robocop its not a given that Dick is behind the crime organisation. And Rear Window first time viewers, especially those unfamiliar with Burr, wouldn't necessarily know he was the killer straight away. They wouldn't therefore have suspected that Mrs Thorwald would be the first victim. So its a spoiler to tell people who the killer is. And I like spoiler tags, sorry but I just do..

[Tagia_Romero]

Lady Van Tassel- Miranda Richardson- Sleepy Hollow
The Headless Hessian- Christopher Walken- Sleepy Hollow
Tamora, Queen of the Goths- Jessica Lange- Titus
Louis Cyphere- Robert De Niro- Angel Heart
Lady Macbeth- Macbeth (no actual actress stands out to mind, though the character was a lot more ruthless than Mac himself.

[Le_Big_Mac]

Albert Spica - The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
Tommy Udo - Kiss of Death (1947)
Jerry Dandridge - Fright Night
Benny Blanco - Carlito's Way
Count Dracula - Nosferatu the Vampyre

[Pentangeli]

Lady Macbeth- Macbeth (no actual actress stands out to mind, though the character was a lot more ruthless than Mac himself.

Throne of Blood:
Lady Washizu (Isuzu Yamada)

[Smiert Spionam]

^^^ The only one that MIGHT constitute as a spoiler is Arlington Road.

Not sure why you put the others in spoilers tags.

Are you busting someones balls for actually having the decency to use the new spoiler tags, regardless of how old or new the films are? :rolleyes:

Winston King (Dustin Hoffman), Confidence
Johnny Tapia (Jordi Malla), Bad Boys II
Azrael (Jason Lee), Dogma
Barry "the Baptist" (Lenny McLean), Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels
"Dutch" Shultz (Tim Roth), Hoodlum
Simon Gruber (Jeremy Irons), Die Hard with a Vengeance
Wah Sing Ku (Jet Li), Lethal Weapon 4

and... Matchstick Men:
Frank Mercer (Sam Rockwell)

[Pentangeli]

and... Matchstick Men:
Frank Mercer (Sam Rockwell)

I thought you were going to say "Angela (Alison Lohman)". One of the great femme fatals of recent years. Rockwell was pretty sly too

[Chrissy M.]

Robert Durant, Darkman (Larry Drake)
Phil Leotardo, The Sopranos (Frank Vincent)

[athf1980]

judge doom & weasels-who framed roger rabbit
mom & dad-people under the stairs
pigvomit-private parts
fallan-judgment night

[FireCaptain4]

Fats/Corky -- Magic (1978)

[Frosty_86]

I definitely agree with Lt. Coffey, Qualen, and Curly Bill.


Capt. Frye and Darrow- The Rock
I'd put Ed Harris but he never really intended to do it

Johnny Ringo- Tombstone

Carter Burke- Aliens

Ernst Stavro Blofield- On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Savalas is my favorite out of the the three times Blofield's face is shown)

Franz Sanchez- Licence To Kill

Elektra King- The World Is Not Enough

Agamemnon and Menelaus- Troy (I love Brian Cox and Brendan Gleeson)

[Natty]

While not from a movie but from a stage production that I saw:

Duke Brachiano- The White Devil- Hugo Weaving

*twitches with slight jealousy*

Good for you, I imagine Weaving is great on stage, perhaps more so in a villianous role.

[Frosty_86]

Stockburn- in Pale Rider

Terrill- The Outlaw Josey Wales

Arthur Burns- The Proposition

Major West- 28 Days Later

[Tagia_Romero]

*twitches with slight jealousy*

Good for you, I imagine Weaving is great on stage, perhaps more so in a villianous role.

That he was and damn sexy too (I have a thing for him, you see :p). The production was also gorgeously lavish, and I got every bang for my buck possible.

[Frosty_86]

Lil Bill Daggett - Unforgiven
King Edward I, Longshanks - Braveheart
Sheriff of Nottingham - Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves
Belloq - Raiders of the Lost Ark
Capt. Levasseur - Captain Blood
Mr. Joshua - Lethal Weapon
Col. Tavington - The Patriot
Al Capone - The Untouchables


Great picks especially Tavington and Nottingham, Prince of Theives gets entirely too much shit. I love it mainly because of Alan Rickman. I dont know if you can consider Daggett unsung because Gene Hackman won an Oscar but you really dont hear people talk very much about him when they talk great screen villians but he's a great villian.

Im glad that someone showed Sleepy Hollow some love, you kick ass Tagia.

[Tagia_Romero]

Im glad that someone showed Sleepy Hollow some love, you kick ass Tagia.

I figured that very rarely do you find a dastardly female villain, and I just happened to think of Miranda Richardson's role which she played so damn well. Plus, Walken in the same movie is a huge given.

[Frosty_86]

I figured that very rarely do you find a dastardly female villain, and I just happened to think of Miranda Richardson's role which she played so damn well. Plus, Walken in the same movie is a huge given.

She is a heinous bitch in it, Walken has to show up and its awesome fuck he doesnt even talk in Sleepy Hollow and he's awesome.

[Tagia_Romero]

She is a heinous bitch in it.

Which makes her worthy to be on this list. :D

[Cosimo]

scorpio - dirty harry

[Antonio141]

Velma Kelly (Catherine Zeta-Jones) in CHICAGO
Alexander Sebastian (Claude Rains) in NOTORIOUS
Bruno Antony (Robert Walker) in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN
Mitch Leary (John Malkovich) in IN THE LINE OF FIRE
Clay Shaw (Tommy Lee Jones) in JFK
Louis Cypher (Robert DeNiro) in ANGEL HEART

Although Zeta-Jones won an Oscar, and TLJ, Malkovich & Rains were nominated...I still consider their characters to be criminally underrated!!!

[labialover]

Mitch Leary, In The Line Of Fire

[syxxpac]

Great choices so far, peeps. Some more for the sheer hell of it:

- Fallon (Denis Leary, Judgment Night)
- Harlen Maguire & Connor Rooney (Jude Law & Daniel Craig, Road To Perdition)
- Mr. Blue (Robert Shaw, The Taking Of Pelham One Two Three)
- Kevin & Cardinal Roark (Elijah Wood & Rutger Hauer, Sin City)
- Juno Skinner (Tia Carrere, True Lies)
- Claudio "The Wolf" Perrini (Cliff Curtis, Collateral Damage)
- Saddam Hussein (South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut)
- "Billy" (Bob Clark/Nick Mancuso, Black Christmas)
- Peter Ludlow (Arliss Howard, The Lost World: Jurassic Park)
- Mr. Brooks (Kevin Costner, Mr. Brooks)
- Mauricio (Peter Marquardt, El Mariachi)
- Karl Ruprecht Kroenen (Ladislav Beran, Hellboy)
- Master Fung Sheng Wu Chi (Kam Kang, Master Of The Flying Guillotine)
- Leland Gaunt (Max Von Sydow, Needful Things)
- Nicky Santoro (Joe Pesci, Casino... considering Tommy Devito from Goodfellas gets all the accolades, I think it's only fair)

[ilovemovies]

Mitch Leary, In The Line Of Fire

HELL YES!

John Malkovich is one scary mother fucker!


I also thought Gabriel Byrne and Currie Graham did a great job of making you hate them in the Assault on Precinct 13 remake.

Speaking of Byrne, he was great as the devil in End of Days. Everybody always mentions Pacino's turn as the devil in The Devil's Advocate, but Byrne was great as well.

Sean Bean in the Hitcher remake as well. Scary and pure evil dude.

[Smiert Spionam]

Speaking of Byrne, he was great as the devil in End of Days. Everybody always mentions Pacino's turn as the devil in The Devil's Advocate, but Byrne was great as well.

Amen. My personal incarnation of the Devil...

[Tagia_Romero]

Speaking of Byrne, he was great as the devil in End of Days. Everybody always mentions Pacino's turn as the devil in The Devil's Advocate, but Byrne was great as well.



I'll say. RAWR.

[Tagia_Romero]

Theodore 'T-Bag' Bagwell- Robert Knepper (I love that man :p)
Roomy and Mr. Mi-Mania- Perfect Blue

[ProgWizardry]

TIM ROTH as ARCHIBALD CUNNINGHAM in ROB ROY
IAN MCDIARMID as PALPATINE/DARTH SIDIOUS in the STAR WARS SAGA
PATRICK MCGOOHAN as LONG SHANKS in BRAVEHEART
PATRICK MCGOOHAN as WARDEN in ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ
GENE HACKMAN as LITTLE BILL DAGGETT in UNFORGIVEN
MICHAEL BIEHN as JOHNNY RINGO in TOMBSTONE
DAVID HESS as KRUG in LAST HOUSE ON THE LEFT
PAUL GLEASON as MR. VERN in THE BREAKFAST CLUB
JOHN MALKOVICH as TOM RIPLEY in RIPLEY'S GAME
ROBERT DENIRO as NEIL MCCAULEY in HEAT

[bigred760]

Great picks especially Tavington and Nottingham, Prince of Theives gets entirely too much shit. I love it mainly because of Alan Rickman. I dont know if you can consider Daggett unsung because Gene Hackman won an Oscar but you really dont hear people talk very much about him when they talk great screen villians but he's a great villian.

I've actually had discussions on whether or not he's actually a villain on these boards (that was a while ago though). Yes, he won the Oscar (deservedly), but there've been a lot of Oscar winning villains, especially recently that are discussed a lot: Hannibal Lecter, the Joker, Anton Chigur. But Lil Bill is hardly recognized AT ALL . . . even by movie buffs.

Speaking of Byrne, he was great as the devil in End of Days.

That he was.

[HedwigX]

Robert Shaw as Mr. Blue in The Taking of Pelham One Two Three.

That is all.

[krazy drako]

Rutger Hauer for The Hitcher(mentioned in the first post) and as Roy Batty in the movie Blade Runner.

[ivana]

J,K,Simmons as Vern Schillinger (Oz) - easily one of the most despicable,evil
character ever.He was so sadistic and brutal - Ryan O'Reily and James Robson
from Oz as well.

Robert Shaw as Doyle Lonnegan
Flipper and Nickie Dryden from the masterpiece The Debt Collector
Joe Pesci as Nicky Santoro
Chris Penn as Nice Guy Eddie (he kill a cop for no reason)
Grimsrud & Showalter - Fargo
Marsellus Wallace - Pulp Fiction
Diamond Dog - Con Air

Frank Mercer from Matchstick Men is one evil bastard.

[Rawhead Andy]

***= SEVERELY underrated movie that you must see by any means necessary!

***Gabriel- Chris Walken "The Prophecy" ***

Satan- Viggo Mortenson "The Prophecy"

YuLaw- Jet Li "The One"

Dr. Clayton Forrester- Trace Beauleu (?) "MST3K: The Movie"

Clown- John Leguizamo "Spawn" (the only thing I did like about the movie)

Sid 6.7- Russell Crowe "Virtuosity"

Special Agent Dammers- Jeffery Combs "The Frighteners"

***Decker- David Cronenberg "Nightbreed" ***

***Simon Cartwright- Paolo Rotondo "The Ugly" ***

Top Dollar- Michael Wincott "The Crow"

Simon- Jeremy Irons "Die Hard With A Vengeance"

***Buddy Ackerman- Kevin Spacey "Swimming With Sharks" <--(Fuck Meryl Streep's Devil Wears Prada, THIS is the boss from hell!) ***

Andre Linoge- Colm Feore "Storm Of The Century" (Mini-series, I know but he's still creepy as hell)

The Sun in "Knowing"

***Mr. Hand- Richard O'Brien "Dark City"***

The Killer from "House Of Wax" remake (he DID kill Paris Hilton)

The Operative- Chiwetel Ejiofor "Serenity" (creepy calm bastard)

Castor Troy- Nic Cage "Face/Off"

Edgar- Vincent D'nofrio "Men In Black" (very awesome performance)

John Doe- Kevin Spacey "Se7en" (one of my all-time favorite performances)

The Joker- Jack Nicholson "Batman" (I added him cuz of all the attention Ledger's Joker stole from him. Although I DO love Ledger's Joker, dont get me wrong)

Betty- Fei Lung "Kung Pow: Enter The Fist"

Mrs. Iselin- Angela Lansbury "The Manchurian Candidate" (one of the worst mothers ever)

HALL OF FAME:
Christopher Walken
Tim Curry
Michael Wincott
Gary Oldman
Robert Deniro

[ElDuderino]

My favorites of the unsung persuasion:

Curly Bill Brocius (Powers Boothe) and Johnny Ringo (Michael Biehn)- Tombstone
Frank Renda (Al Lattieri) - Mr. Majestyk
Virgil "The Turk" Solozzo (Al Lattieri) - The Godfather
Guy de Lusignan (Marton Csokas) and Reynald de Chatillon (Brendan Gleeson) - Kingdom of Heaven * man those guys were douchebags
King Edward The Longshanks (Patrick McGoohan) - Braveheart
Brick Top (Alan Ford)- Snatch
Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen)- Reservoir Dogs
Jerome "Jerry" Lundegaard (William H. Macy)/Gaear Grimsrud (Peter Stormare)/Carl Showalter (Steve Buscemi)- Fargo
Connor Rooney (Daniel Craig) - Road to Perdition
Carl Stargher (Vincent D'Onofrio) - The Cell *Yeah it had J-Lo but Vincent D'Onofrio was so goddamn creepy! And the scene with the rotisserie was just horrifying!

[Natty]

Gaear Grimsrud (Peter Stormare)/Carl Showalter (Steve Buscemi)- Fargo

Ah good call. I love the way the way these characters are totally different but both are of a similar breed of greedy, idiotic criminals that seem to plague society. Both played brilliantly too, love Stormare's face in that final scene.

[Frosty_86]

My favorites of the unsung persuasion:

Guy de Lusignan (Marton Csokas) and Reynald de Chatillon (Brendan Gleeson) - Kingdom of Heaven * man those guys were douchebags
King Edward The Longshanks (Patrick McGoohan) - Braveheart
Brick Top (Alan Ford)- Snatch
Mr. Blonde (Michael Madsen)- Reservoir Dogs
Jerome "Jerry" Lundegaard (William H. Macy)/Gaear Grimsrud (Peter Stormare)/Carl Showalter (Steve Buscemi)- Fargo
Connor Rooney (Daniel Craig) - Road to Perdition
Carl Stargher (Vincent D'Onofrio) - The Cell *Yeah it had J-Lo but Vincent D'Onofrio was so goddamn creepy! And the scene with the rotisserie was just horrifying!

Great picks, Csokas in my opinion is a very underrated actor him and Gleeson (who is one of my favorites) were both great in Kingdom of Heaven. Ford as Brick Top was just fantastic, that whole movie had great characters. I always love Stormare and Buscemi in the Coens movies, they are always great with the Coens. McGoohan shouldve gotten nominated for Longshanks. Daniel Craig was excellent in Road to Perdition, he actually made me hate him so much in that that I wasnt sure how I felt about him as the new Bond at first. D'Onofrio is just plain awesome, he made the Cell. That would not have been half as good if he had not been in it.

[overwatch]

Vincent D'Onofrio as Pooh Bear in The Salton Sea

The character isn't anything exceptional compared to other villians. But he's a very memorable character with really dark humour.

[ElDuderino]

Ah good call. I love the way the way these characters are totally different but both are of a similar breed of greedy, idiotic criminals that seem to plague society. Both played brilliantly too, love Stormare's face in that final scene.

I love both Stormare and Buscemi, they both play great slimy jackasses, but William H. Macy made Fargo for me. Jerry Lundegaard is so dangerous in my opinion because he's a family man. An overly nice guy that you wouldn't think would be involved in something like this but here he is hiring a couple maniacs to kidnap his wife! That scene where he's trying to scrape the ice off his windshield and just loses it is priceless. His desperation is at the core of the mayhem happening in small town North Dakota/Minnesota.

[ProgWizardry]

Steven Berkoff as Victor Maitlin in Beverly Hills Cop.

Also William Atherton in Ghostbusters. WOW, what a convincing prick.

[HoboJoeBob]

Xenia Onatopp (Famke Janssen - Goldeneye)
Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, Batman and Robin)
Mystique (Rebecca Romijn, X-Men)
Pumpkinhead
The Djinn (Andrew Divoff, Wishmaster)
Mr. Glass (Samuel L. Jackson, Unbreakable)
Mason Verger (Gary Oldman, Hannibal)
The Penguin (Danny Devito, Batman Returns)
Simon Phoenix (Wesley Snipes, Demolition Man)
Lt. Harris (G.W. Bailey, Police Academy)
The Scorpio Killer (Andrew Robinson, Dirty Harry)
Benedict (Charles Dance, Last Action Hero)
Ripper (Tom Noonan, Last Action Hero)
Richie Madano (William Forsythe, Out for Justice)
Top Dollar (Michael Wincott, The Crow)
Scar (The Lion King)
Clarence J. Boddicker (Kurtwood Smith, Robocop)
Johns (Cole Hauser, Pitch Black)
Asami Yamazaki (Eihi Shiina, Audition)


I could go on and on but I figured I better stop

[Matchbox225]

I'm going to list some actors who's most well known roles have been villains, but aren't mentioned as much.


John Vernon
Mal Reese - Point Blank
Maynard Doyle - Charley Varrick
Dean Vernon Wormer - Animal House
Sherman Krader - Ernest Goes To Camp

Alice Krige
Eva Galli/Alma Mobley - Ghost Story
Mary Brady - Sleepwalkers
Borg Queen - Star Trek: First Contact

Peter Lorre
Hans Beckert - M
Joel Cairo - The Maltese Falcon
Dr. Einstein - Arsenic And Old Lace

Robert Ryan
Montgomery - Crossfire
Ben Vandergroat - The Naked Spur
Reno Smith - Bad Day At Black Rock

I'd also like to add that movie stars like Humphrey Bogart, Clark Gable and Lee Marvin played some pretty great villains in their early roles

[blknge89]

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[jaw2929]

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In FMJ, TCM 2003 and TCM: The Beginning. And anything else he's ever been in, pretty much.