Dane Cook 'keen on Riddler role'

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Dane Cook 'keen on Riddler role'

Wednesday, November 11 2009, 11:58am EST
By Tim Parks, Entertainment Reporter

Dane Cook has revealed that he would be interested in playing the Riddler in Batman 3.

The 37-year-old told MTV News that he loves the direction that filmmaker Christopher Nolan has steered the franchise in with Batman Begins and follow-up The Dark Knight.

Cook stated that his performance of the villain would be akin to what late actor Heath Ledger did with his Oscar-winning portrayal of the Joker.

He said: "If they brought back the Riddler - a new Riddler the way they did with the Joker that would be badass. I would do that."

He added: "When they were making the new one and they were doing the Joker, I always thought it [should be] kind of like The Crow - having that dark element but still comedic.

"[My performance] would probably have to be something in that vein, even though I think what Heath Ledger did with the Joker was the greatest comic book villain ever."

Johnny Depp previously admitted that he is intrigued by the part of the Riddler.

[BakeTheMooCow]

Go away, Dane Cook.

[Pentangeli]

Go away, Dane Cook.

:D

Do we know for sure Riddler's in the next one?

I nominate Willem Dafoe

[DrJellyfingers]

holy shit, someone tell Nolan right away. he shouldn't even have to audition.

[Tweek]

At least this is him just expressing interest and not saying that he's up for the role. And also, The Riddler hasn't been confirmed or anything, correct?

[Cop No. 633]

I didn't know they rewrote the part of the Riddler into an unfunny douchebag. Maybe Dane Cook can do it.

[jolanar]

Wow. If I had a choice between Johnny Depp and Dane Cook in my movie... wonder who I would pick? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Frosty_86]

Im pretty sure that Christopher Nolan wouldnt let Dane Cook anywhere near a movie of his. In less of course Cook impressed the hell out of him, but I dont see that happening. And plus do we know the Riddler is actually going to be in the next one? I say they do Black Mask but thats just me.

[Addi88]

Hmmmm....
Maybe, but the whole thing makes me real uneasy just because I don't have much confidence in Cook. If he plays it up more like his role in Mr. Brooks, then maybe. Johnny Depp would be awesome but, I don't know, I want a darkhorse, an underrated actor to surprise me.

For example, I know Philip Seymour Hoffman would be amazing as the Penguin but....let's spice things up. Put Jon Lovitz in there to play the Penguin. However, I digress...

[ilovemovies]

Cook was actually pretty good as the antagonist in Mr. Brooks. But I'm still not sure I see him as a Batman villain.

[Smiert Spionam]

God forbid we actually go an entire season without any theoretical Batman sequel casting.... :rolleyes:

[The Postmaster General]

He's either talking out of his ass and/or pulling legs. There's nothing about the story even remotely hinting that there's a slight possibility that there's the least chance that this has any odds of actually happening. It's up there with Paris Hilton's commercial saying she's running for president, except I actually believe that has a better chance of happening than Cook being the Riddler.

[Sgizzy316]

I guess to answer everyone's repetitive question, nothing has been released about the 3rd installment, besides Oldman spilling that Nolan was intent on doing a 3rd film. No characters and no actors have been tied to the project besides Bale who, by contract will be The Caped Crusader for Batman 3.

[Silverload]

I don't know, but I always thought Mr. Reese from The Dark Knight really fits the bill for the Riddler. His origin story is practically already told in TDK.

Also his name 'Mr. Reese' = Mysteries.

[SkyNet]

Hmmmm....
Maybe, but the whole thing makes me real uneasy just because I don't have much confidence in Cook. If he plays it up more like his role in Mr. Brooks, then maybe. Johnny Depp would be awesome but, I don't know, I want a darkhorse, an underrated actor to surprise me.

For example, I know Philip Seymour Hoffman would be amazing as the Penguin but....let's spice things up. Put Jon Lovitz in there to play the Penguin. However, I digress...


fully and 100% agree here... i love Mr. Brooks and thought he did a good job in that flick... i dont think he would be too good in the role of The Riddler.. but i think this is just him saying "hell ya, that would be a bad ass role, id love to play The Riddler".

I ove the idea of someone like Jon Lovitz (hint hint JON LOVITZ) to play The Penguin, that would be awesome!

I am a fan of Dane Cook's stand up act, nothing earth shattering, not paving the way, but he makes me laugh. Granted his comedic roles have been pretty bad thus far... but Mr. Brooks shows promise.

[Mr. Creasy]

Yes... I love it. Now let's put Sarah Silverman as Catwoman, Carlos Mencia as The Mad Hatter, Russell Brand as Mr. Freeze and Gabriel Iglesias as The Penguin and is gonna be the greatest movie ever!

BTW... why the f*** is Russell Brand f******* Katy Perry??? please God bring 2012 sooner!!!

[Vong]

Dane Cook can't be the Riddler...you need talent in both comedy and acting for the role.

[FireCaptain4]

This is probably Dane Cook's funniest joke to date.

[screamer581]

Yeah no.

[ericdraven]

Why so serious, Dane Cook?

[moose1132]

What's with all these crazy, ridiculous as shit rumors about the Riddler? I didn't think it could get any worse than Eddie Murphey.

[ElderPredator]

Let's make a pact gentlemen...

If Dane is signed on as the "Riddler" or is narrowed down to the top choices, we'll all pool our money together to hire a man to put two rounds through his kneecaps...

Can I get a "Whoa Bundy"?!

[kobe8byrant]

I don't know, but I always thought Mr. Reese from The Dark Knight really fits the bill for the Riddler. His origin story is practically already told in TDK.

Also his name 'Mr. Reese' = Mysteries.

Still, that doesn't mean they can't recast the role. :p

[Potter82]

... well he'll have to fight Eddie Murphy for it!

Seriously, do people not realize how well casted the Nolan's Batman films have been!? There's no way he'd let such a casting atrocity come to pass. This is the same guy who prevented Ashton Kutcher from taking on the role of Batman!

Have some more faith in Nolan.

[ElderPredator]

Yes... I love it. Now let's put Sarah Silverman as Catwoman

Mmmmm.....she'd fill out that costume perfectly with that smokin' body of hers. :D

[Vong]

Mmmmm.....she'd fill out that costume perfectly with that smokin' body of hers. :D

...and a mask to cover that ghastly face of hers.

[echo_bravo]

This is probably Dane Cook's funniest joke to date.

haha I was thinking the same thing. Dane Cook actually in a Christopher Nolan film. Thats funny.

But seriously, this guy needs to be the Riddler...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/Noiseycricket/00290966.jpg

[jeo4]

Dane Cook is a no-talent asswipe. His humor is unoriginal frathouse crap and he can't act to save his soul. If Chris Nolan has any sense, he'll keep this idiot away from the Batman franchise.

[bigred760]

This is just Dane Cook putting his name "out there" for the role of the Riddler.

Let's just all remember that A)Chris Nolan isn't officially associated with Batman 3, B)the Riddler is not officially the villain in Batman 3, and C)even if Nolan and the Riddler were involved in Batman 3, I SERIOUSLY doubt Dane Cook would be considered for the role.

It's funny that he compares himself to Heath Ledger when he's nowhere near the talent of Ledger as far as acting was concerned. Keep dreaming, Cook.

[Strider]

He's PERFECT for the role. Absolutely perfect. Nolan should cast him right away. :rolleyes:

Seriously, I think The Riddler should be played by Johnny Depp, Guy Pearce, or Hugo Weaving. But I vote for Pearce. He'd do a fantastic job, and I've been dying to see him reunite with Nolan.

Strider

[The Postmaster General]

After learning who Hugh Laurie is from House, and THEN seeing him in Black Addler, I think he'd make a good Riddler. Most people would probably disagree, but I think he'd bring a lot to a role like that.

I do give Cook credit for one thing, in that he does seem, from these statements, like he's starting to distance himself from what made him popular.

[Heisenberg]

I still vote Michael C. Hall for The Riddler.

[Mr. Creasy]

haha I was thinking the same thing. Dane Cook actually in a Christopher Nolan film. Thats funny.

But seriously, this guy needs to be the Riddler...

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e32/Noiseycricket/00290966.jpg

Actually... HE needs to be The Riddler!!!...

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6719/paulbettanyr20x24.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/paulbettanyr20x24.jpg/)

[The Postmaster General]

David Tennant also expressed interest in the role, and I wouldn't mind him, but I feel for a Riddler to work in Nolan's universe, it'd make more sense to be someone older, hence one of the reasons behind the Laurie suggestion. Too many of the other actors I've seen mentioned, including Depp, seem like they would just be the total smart ass Riddler that we had in the TV show and Super Friends. I think it's too easy when thinking of who would be great to get caught up in just physical appearance and forgetting what makes the characters tick and be so interesting at their core, and that seems to be the idea behind Nolan's universe - getting to what makes the characters tick and be who they are - not who looks best in a costume.

It's really so hard to come up with ideas though. All of Nolan's choices have been left field, but the one thing he seems to focus on is acting chops being the bottom line. Whoever he gets, it'll probably be someone who has a lot of weight in their resume. Probably British too. :)

[SuperMarcey]

Its funny when someone expresses interest in a role, and funnier when they likely have no chance in hell. Not only that, is there even going to be another Batman film? Perhaps down the track, but nothing is certain. And considering that, who said they are going with Riddler for film?

Yes news like this is bloody stupid ... I think Dane just wants his name getting mentioned.

[Heisenberg]

Why does everyone constantly bring up Paul Bettany? He aint that f*cking great...

imo ofcourse.

[RustyRazor]

...why does this man keep making me despise him?

[QUENTIN]

I am also keen on playing The Riddler. As Dane and I have equal chances of getting the part and claim to be attached to the project at the same level, perhaps a thread should be devoted to discussing the merits of casting me.

My vote is that I would suck.

[Shinigami]

Dane Cook didn't suggest he was up for the part.
Dane Cook didn't compare his talents to Ledger's.

http://www.joewrite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/haters-gonna-hate.gif

[The Postmaster General]

Haha. I saw that reply, Shin, which was what I'd been saying from the get-go. And then I saw that gif and was like, "damn man, Shin is funny!!!"

Then my eyes looked up further and saw the subjet of your post and I realized that you're not funny. You're not funny at all.

:p

(much like this post :) )

[Donnie_Darko]

Dane Cook didn't suggest he was up for the part.
Dane Cook didn't compare his talents to Ledger's.



While Heath wasn't the greatest actor in the world, and his performance as the Joker is FAR overrated, at this point, I'd have to give Heath the edge in acting abilities... as in right now. Put Cook up against Heath in an open casting call, and Heath would win hands down.

I say just "reboot" the franchise again. Or go with Christopher Walken as the riddler:
"Riddle me this.... Batman." (in my best Walken cadence)

Oh, how about Jay Mohr, AS Walken, playing the Riddler?
"Riddle ME this... Batman?"

[Shinigami]

I wouldn't immediately pull for Riddler in the third. Too similar to the Joker. I'm sure fans of the comic could explain to me otherwise in painstaking detail, and I'm also sure there's a lot more to each villain than being the dark comic. But he's still similar. His adversarial plays seem like they would be similar too. Both villains present similar obstacles and psychological games, right?

[LordSimen]

... Riddler is "too similar to the joker?" What, what, what? Did I seriously just read someone say that? :confused::confused::confused: How many Batman comics have you read, good sir? Because about the only thing Riddler and Joker have in common is they both have green somewhere on their outfit.

[BoxManShoes]

Even though Dane Cook didn't really do anything wrong here by saying this, I still think he should tea-bag a woodchipper.

[Natty]

BTW... why the f*** is Russell Brand f******* Katy Perry??? please God bring 2012 sooner!!!

You're not funny at all.

:p

(much like this post :) )

Hahahahaha :D


On the subject, how dare he compare himself to Heath Ledger. As for who should really play The Riddler, Casey Affleck I'm tellin' ya!

[Shinigami]

I've read 0 Batman comic books. That opinion disqualifying write-off aside :D , these are still comic book super hero characters and their personalities aren't hard on the imagination, right? Not to put down the medium, but these stories work a lot with archetypes. I've read 0 Batman comic books and Nolan's Joker was as I expected. I know the details and backgrounds and costumes are different, but- and now I'm asking

His adversarial plays seem like they would be similar too. Both villains present similar obstacles and psychological games, right?

Or wrong?
I'm not trying to be a smart alec. Can people who thoroughly know these villains tell me that the villainous archetype of riddler and joker are diverse enough to follow each other in Nolan's series? Or don't they present similar obstacles and psychological games for Batman to overcome?


On the subject, how dare he compare himself to Heath Ledger.

Are you serious dude

[Natty]

Are you serious dude

Yes.

"Cook stated that his performance would be akin to what late actor Heath Ledger did with his Oscar-winning portrayal of the Joker."
Akin means like doesn't it?

He also talks about 'a new Riddler the way they did the Joker' and that he 'would do that'.

Finally he says that he would give a performance 'in that vein' (combining the dark and comedic) "even though I think what Heath Ledger did with the Joker was the greatest comic book villain ever"--he doesn't say the typical modest actor thing of "oh I could never do something as good as that", he pretty much puts himself on the same level as Ledger as an actor.

[Shinigami]

If I tell you how much I love Scorsese and how much I want to approach directing the way he approaches directing, you would accuse me of daring to compare my directorial talents to Scorsese?


edit:
I mean where is the sense in this. Heath Ledger died tragically and nobody is going to come out and devalue him in any way, shape or form. There is no sense for Dane Cook, a comedian, to show up and casually say he could probably do as good a job as Ledger. However much you guys hate him, there's no reason for him to be antagonizing the memory of a beloved actor by pitching himself for the new Batman. Nobody does that. It's a good gossip fantasy for rumor scoop sites and that's it. I hate to be an ass, but you guys should get your bearings straight.

[Natty]

I'm not trying to be a smart alec. Can people who thoroughly know these villains tell me that the villainous archetype of riddler and joker are diverse enough to follow each other in Nolan's series? Or don't they present similar obstacles and psychological games for Batman to overcome?

I've read more than a few Batman comics and you're not really wrong to say the two characters are similar. Both commit heinous crimes but both have a rather cheeky attitude whilst doing them. Another similarity would be the whole 'psychological games' thing you mentioned, the two villians are more interested in engaging with Batman on a personal/psychological level more than any other (apart from Ra's Al Ghul perhaps), my personal favourite Batman Comics story involves this awesome 'diabolical plot' that The Riddler helped organise in which all of Batman's villians are pitted against him, one of the many twists in the story is that The Riddler actually discovers Batman's identity (really the first major villian - apart from the guy I mentioned earlier - to do so).

Differences would be that The Riddler is less psychotic and more pathetic. He seems happy to work with others whereas the Joker tends to go solo, The Riddler does more tricks and traps than The Joker and he can only really commit a crime as long as it links to a riddle or puzzle. Also, I believe he has made various attempts to 'go straight' unlike Mr J.

So there ya go, as for whether or not they are diverse enough for The Riddler to be in Batman 3, I would say yes because I think Nolan would obviously make sure that he does something very different to in The Dark Knight. Personally though, I would also like to see a villian that is more of a contrast.

[Natty]

I mean where is the sense in this. Heath Ledger died tragically and nobody is going to come out and devalue him in any way, shape or form. There is no sense for Dane Cook, a comedian, to show up and casually say he could probably do as good a job as Ledger. However much you guys hate him, there's no reason for him to be antagonizing the memory of a beloved actor by pitching himself for the new Batman. Nobody does that. There's certainly no evidence Cook does that. It's a good gossip fantasy for rumor scoop sites and that's it. Schmoes should know better. I hate to be an ass, but you guys ought to be more savvy than this.

I'm not really 'hating', (though I know this post is addressed at more than me) I didn't know who Dane Cook was before clicking on this thread and I know that he wouldn't disrespect a dead actor. However, he lives in LA, was most likely paid far too much for the Transformers movies and is sleeping with Fergie (amongst others). All of these things are likely to effect his ego and I personally think his statements show that.

If I tell you how much I love Scorsese and how much I want to approach directing the way he approaches directing, you would accuse me of daring to compare my directorial talents to Scorsese?

Of course not, but if you said, "my direction is like Martin Scorsese's", I might.

[The Postmaster General]

QUENTIN 'keen on Riddler role'

Friday, November 13 2009
By BubbaStrangelove, Resident Jackass

QUENTIN has revealed that he would be interested in playing the Riddler in Batman 3.

He told JoBlo.com readers that his performance would be as plausible as comedian Dane Cook.

He said: "As Dane and I have equal chances of getting the part and claim to be attached to the project at the same level, perhaps a thread should be devoted to discussing the merits of casting me."

He added: "My vote is that I would suck."

Dane Cook previously admitted that he is intrigued by the part of the Riddler.

[Reigh Kaufman]

This just in: Reigh Kaufman wants to play Dane Cook as The Riddler in the as yet non-existent third Batman movie in a performance he has described as "akin to pretending to be another person in order to get paid, but, like the person is an alive person, because it would be disrespectful to discuss performing as a dead person...or something". Asked about QUENTIN's interest in the purely hypothetical role, Kaufman replied: "QUENTIN is to The Riddler as David Spade is Magneto. His last stand-up tour was shit. Mainly becuase he did not show up. Actually, I have no idea if this is true or not. I was at home watching Good Luck, Chuck. Research".

We'll have more, after these messaages.

[poguesfan]

This has got to be the funniest shit Dane Cook has ever said, a true fucking knee-slapper, my sides are aching. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

P.S. Dane Cook is a fucking douchebag!!!!!!!

[LordSimen]

Joker's a psychotic with no real goals outside of spreading anarchy, violence and laughter where ever he goes.

Riddler's an obsessive compulsive obsessed with proving he's not only better, but smarter than everyone through complex riddles or puzzles.

For one, life's a joke. For the other, life's a puzzle box. They couldn't be further apart as far as I'm concerned.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Joker's a psychotic with no real goals outside of spreading anarchy, violence and laughter where ever he goes.

Riddler's an obsessive compulsive obsessed with proving he's not only better, but smarter than everyone through complex riddles or puzzles.

For one, life's a joke. For the other, life's a puzzle box. They couldn't be further apart as far as I'm concerned.

Pretty much, except for the laughter part: The Joker does not much care for making other people laugh.

I think the prefix "The" makes people think the characters are similar.

They are not.

[Tweek]

I wouldn't immediately pull for Riddler in the third. Too similar to the Joker. I'm sure fans of the comic could explain to me otherwise in painstaking detail, and I'm also sure there's a lot more to each villain than being the dark comic. But he's still similar. His adversarial plays seem like they would be similar too. Both villains present similar obstacles and psychological games, right?

One way I can think of is that The Joker is about disorder while The Riddler is on the obsessive compulsive side.


EDIT: Way to read the whole thread, Tweek. Way to go. :(

[Reigh Kaufman]

One way I can think of is that The Joker is about disorder while The Riddler is on the obsessive compulsive side.


EDIT: Way to read the whole thread, Tweek. Way to go. :(

You GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LordSimen]

Pretty much, except for the laughter part: The Joker does not much care for making other people laugh.


Well I'd say he does care a slight bit given he created his own special blend of laughing gas that he loves to use any chance he gets. :p

[The Postmaster General]

Yeah, Joker will totally change up the rules and Riddler will stick to the rules to the point of it being a weakness. Both are mental, and I think that's the only real comparison, but that speaks for a lot of those guys. I'd like to hear Shinigami's take on the similarities.

[QUENTIN]

QUENTIN 'keen on Riddler role'

Friday, November 13 2009
By BubbaStrangelove, Resident Jackass

QUENTIN has revealed that he would be interested in playing the Riddler in Batman 3.

He told JoBlo.com readers that his performance would be as plausible as comedian Dane Cook.

He said: "As Dane and I have equal chances of getting the part and claim to be attached to the project at the same level, perhaps a thread should be devoted to discussing the merits of casting me."

He added: "My vote is that I would suck."

Dane Cook previously admitted that he is intrigued by the part of the Riddler.



QUENTIN as The Riddler?!? Hah!

The guy can't even coax a laugh out a drunken fratboy with his idiotic in your face humor, now Chris Nolan is supposed to trust him with his franchise? Who does that asshole think he is comparing himself to Dane Cook? We should all take this opportunity to pelt him with insults and get out all the anger we've felt since he came on the scene, now that he's expressed interest in a role he made no indication he is being considered for.

QUENTIN would be better off playing dead.

[Tweek]

You GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is my kind not welcome in comic book discussions? ;)

[Reigh Kaufman]

Is my kind not welcome in comic book discussions? ;)

You have bewbz!

[Tweek]

You have bewbz!

You have quite a way with words, Reigh. :)

[Reigh Kaufman]

TAKE 'EM OFF!!!

[Tweek]

TAKE 'EM OFF!!!

Brilliant! :)

[dellamorte dellamore]

George Lopez should be the Riddler

Riddle me this, riddle me that, who's chocha smells like a big black bat

[starcat]

After watching The Big Bang Theory the other night it hit me... Jim Parsons would be the perfect Riddler. The way he talks, his movements, his lankiness... its almost as if he were born to play the role... or Louis the Lilac...

[Shinigami]

I'd like to hear Shinigami's take on the similarities.

LordSimen, Tweek and Natty pretty much owned whatever I would have to say in response. My idea going in was that these antagonists were similar not because they weren't dissimilarly detailed in what I'm sure is dozens and dozens of comics that give each unique traits and unique backstories and unique methods of harassing batman- it's that each would be psychological antagonists. That's a damn broad stroke for both villains, but Batman has loads and loads of villains to choose from who I'm offer varieties of physical, mental, or spiritual tribulations. Why pick two in a row who play the same card?

Another thing I just thought of was that the Riddler seems to be a step down in threat from the Joker. Joker intimidates psychologically, but he's still pretty formidable up close because he's crazy and he'll bite off your ears. Isn't the Riddler a sniveling villain who could only pose a complicated puzzlebox threat? Like Oz behind the curtain? Both Riddler and Joker seem to attack Batman passive aggressively. :D Which is to say that they don't necessarily go after him, they go after his family, his friends...

imo it be most immediately interesting for the filmmakers to choose some villain that would fit the criteria of being a direct threat. Somebody who would go straight for batman instead of poking him from afar.

[kobe8byrant]

I'm not really 'hating', (though I know this post is addressed at more than me) I didn't know who Dane Cook was before clicking on this thread and I know that he wouldn't disrespect a dead actor. However, he lives in LA, was most likely paid far too much for the Transformers movies and is sleeping with Fergie (amongst others). All of these things are likely to effect his ego and I personally think his statements show that.



Of course not, but if you said, "my direction is like Martin Scorsese's", I might.

I think you have mistaken Cook for Duhamel.

[Natty]

I think you have mistaken Cook for Duhamel.

So I am, how embarrassing.

Hopefully my ego point still stands. ;)

[Vong]

After watching The Big Bang Theory the other night it hit me... Jim Parsons would be the perfect Riddler. The way he talks, his movements, his lankiness... its almost as if he were born to play the role... or Louis the Lilac...

Holy shit, you're right. I didn't notice it before, but the man has the inflections and maneurisms of the Riddler character. He'd be perfect for the role...

PS - Dane Cook will never be funny

[starcat]

Thanks Vong, i'm glad someone else noticed it as well...

[SweetEnLow]

My cat just informed he that he wants to be The Riddler.

[free]

QUENTIN would be better off playing dead.

So, you are saying you'd be similar to Ledger...

...too soon?

[Saunion]

It Amazes me that this is suppose to be the movie following the best comic book movie ever made, and they're so quick to hand the role over to a shit actor like Cook guaranteed to fuck it up. Cook should stick to comedy.

[Muta]

What are you talking about? No one's giving him the role.

[Saunion]

Good to know, I guess taking two extra minutes to read the rest of the thread would have told me this.