End of an era: Winfrey ending show after 25 years

[ilovemovies]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091120/ap_en_ot/us_winfrey_show_ending



Maybe the world really IS coming to an end in 2012!

I've never been a particularly big fan of The Oprah Winfrey show but that show has been on for nearly my entire life! It's going to be weird not having it around anymore.

[Sgizzy316]

That is crazy news! I never thought she'd end her show. I figured she'd still be on TV and fluctuating her weight long after I was dead, didn't even think of her aging and retiring.

[Scarface98.9]

Poor Steadman

[Common Sense Man]

What I get out of this article is that Oprah is killing the Discovery Channel! WTF!

Who cares about her new show.

The Oprah Winfrey Network...come on please!

Oh well I guess the end is really near. (retreats to converted missile silo)

Out.............................

[dellamorte dellamore]

I just wish she wasn't waiting so long to end it. Cue the "retirement" tour.

Couldn't she have said, one year and i'm out, this thing is going to be dragged out, i see a bit of savvy marketing here, and maybe a bit of hubris, it's ending in 2012, wow, she just may very well think, the end of her show, is the end of the world.

That new network she's starting will be called TEN, the Estrogen Network, all estrogen all the time

[Reigh Kaufman]

Thank fuck.

Tell her to take her shitty fucking book recommendations and somebody stop that mardy arse financing fucking movies.

Precious?

Fuck off.

[ilovemovies]

She didn't finance Precious. She and Tyler Perry saw it at Sundance I believe, where it was already completed and attached their names as executive producers in order to give the movie a better chance.

I don't know what's up with the whole hostility. I'm not really a fan but she seems like a cool person and has done a lot of good. I don't understand why some people hate her so much.

[Reigh Kaufman]

I don't understand why some people hate her so much.

Her book recommendations and terrible films.

I don't hate her, though.

[ilovemovies]

The Color Purple and Beloved and Charlotte's Web are considered terrible movies?

[ElderPredator]

It's about fucking time!

Her show should have started and ended 25 years ago.

[ilovemovies]

Also Precious has been receiving such amazing reviews and everybody has pretty much loved it.

I can't think of a movie that she's involved with that wasn't well received by the overwhelming majority.

Well, I guess Beloved did get mixed reviews. I personally thought it was a great movie and that she was actually snubbed of an oscar nomination. She was fantastic in it.

I don't know about the books she's endorsed though.

[Reigh Kaufman]

The Color Purple and Beloved and Charlotte's Web are considered terrible movies?

Yes.

Because I have eyes and ears.

And don't heart movies.

But you do.

Even movies with Oprah.

Because, as I never tire of pointing out, you heart movies...;)

[SkyNet]

Thank God! I really fucking hate Oprah!

Does this mean she will disappear entirely from the public world?

I doubt it, doesnt she have her own network coming out soon or some such shit??

[someguy]

reigh, have you seen precious?

[Reigh Kaufman]

reigh, have you seen precious?

She's down here, mister, she needs a vet. She broke her leg on the way down here.

[Vong]

Good riddance?

[Badbird]

Yeah, I'm sure everyone here was forced to watch her show every day. Of all the celebrities to get enraged over, she really isn't one of them.

And anyway, isn't she just going to start a new show on her cable channel? It's not like most people don't have cable.

[ProgWizardry]

Good.

Now maybe she can go back to eating instead of talking.

[Smiert Spionam]

Wow, this definitely is surprsing. Figured this bitch would be on another 20 years or so...

I respect her for what she's done, but she really is pretty fuckin' stupid. This is same broad who issued a PSA against Pedobear, which she thought was some kind of pedophilia crime syndicate... :rolleyes:

[Smiert Spionam]

Wow, this definitely is surprsing. Figured this bitch would be on another 20 years or so...

I respect her for what she's done, but she really is pretty fuckin' stupid. This is same broad who issued a PSA against Pedobear, which she thought was some kind of international pedophilia crime syndicate :D. She's also endorsed numerous whackjobs and nutcases on her show as well as giving birth to those fuckin' douchebag "doctors." :rolleyes:

[QUENTIN]

Jesus. I can't stand watching more than a minute of her show, but that's because it's aimed at the exact opposite demographic. With the amount of vitriol on display here, you'd think she was Polpot. Or Rosie O'Donnell.

I like The Color Purple and think she's good in it. I appreciate it when those with money and clout attach themselves to small movies in order to get them seen by more people (as Scorsese and Tarantino often do) and think it's cool that she's going to get Precious a wide release. I'd figure most movie fans would support people pushing for the success of independent films.

She's donated ~$300 million to worthwhile charities and founded her own charity and school in South Africa.

She's entirely self-made, she was born destitute, raped repeatedly as a child, never knew her father, but through talent and dedication she's become a billionaire media personality. I respect underdogs who overcome like that.

Among the books she's promoted, almost all of which go on to sell millions of copies as a result, are:

House of Sand and Fog by Andre Dubus
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Heart is A Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
The Road by Cormac McCarthy

I'm sure there have been some clunkers too, but I think it's cool that she's getting people to read some great books when most turn to Dan Brown and John Grisham if they read at all.

I'm not saying the woman's without faults, I don't care for her program, think that Dr. Phil douche she gave rise to sucks, I know she's endorsed some silly fads and organizations in her day. But on the whole, the woman has had a pretty positive impact and seems admirable.

Did she piss in all your cereals this morning or what?

[hoojib127]

I don't know what's up with the whole hostility. I'm not really a fan but she seems like a cool person and has done a lot of good. I don't understand why some people hate her so much.

It's more the self-congratulatory vibe that I get from her that causes me to dislike her. It seems every time she announces she's doing something charitable it comes off as though she's also saying 'I'm such a good person!' :rolleyes:

[edonline]

She didn't beat Phil Donahue though, he had a 26-season run. :D

[Inglorious]

Jesus. I can't stand watching more than a minute of her show, but that's because it's aimed at the exact opposite demographic. With the amount of vitriol on display here, you'd think she was Polpot. Or Rosie O'Donnell.

I like The Color Purple and think she's good in it. I appreciate it when those with money and clout attach themselves to small movies in order to get them seen by more people (as Scorsese and Tarantino often do) and think it's cool that she's going to get Precious a wide release. I'd figure most movie fans would support people pushing for the success of independent films.

She's donated ~$300 million to worthwhile charities and founded her own charity and school in South Africa.

She's entirely self-made, she was born destitute, raped repeatedly as a child, never knew her father, but through talent and dedication she's become a billionaire media personality. I respect underdogs who overcome like that.

Among the books she's promoted, almost all of which go on to sell millions of copies as a result, are:

House of Sand and Fog by Andre Dubus
The Corrections by Jonathan Franzen
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Cry, the Beloved Country by Alan Paton
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
The Heart is A Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers
Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides
The Road by Cormac McCarthy

I'm sure there have been some clunkers too, but I think it's cool that she's getting people to read some great books when most turn to Dan Brown and John Grisham if they read at all.

I'm not saying the woman's without faults, I don't care for her program, think that Dr. Phil douche she gave rise to sucks, I know she's endorsed some silly fads and organizations in her day. But on the whole, the woman has had a pretty positive impact and seems admirable.

Did she piss in all your cereals this morning or what?

^ Exactly.

It seems people abhor those trying to make the world a better place for us - perhaps because shes more monetarily successful than they are? A bit of envy? What?

[dellamorte dellamore]

No, i'm positive i would loathe her and her show just as much if i had more money than her.

I don't know what's worse, OW, or the people who sucked up to her as if they have to bend down to the Queen. I'm not one of those people so i'm glad her show is ending, i'm sick of hearing about her and seeing her referenced on television constantly.

This is akin to Stern when he was on Fm, i didn't listen to his show but you couldn't get away from the obsessives who talked about him, then he went to a satellite radio station and it's like he disappeared, hope the same happens when she leaves broadcast television.

I agree with Elder, this show should have ended 25 years ago

[QUENTIN]

The show was enormously popular among its demograpic, middle aged women, huge successes rarely end arbitrarily early because the opposite demographic doesn't like it.

Though I think the source of the hate is more about overexposure. "You're just jealous" is more third grade.

Still, I can understand really not liking her show, but the personal vitriol I just don't get. She's done way more good than bad anyway you slice it.

[someguy]

She's down here, mister, she needs a vet. She broke her leg on the way down here.

So you're trashing a movie even though a) you've shown that you thought Oprah financed it when she only threw on an executive producer credit to give it noticed more and b) you haven't even seen it.

You can trash Oprah for the other bad movies she's promoted (Charlotte's Web or Crash anyone?). You can trash her for how she constantly uses the show to inflate her ego by doing countless stories about people who had their lives changed by watching Oprah. You can trash her for her bad book picks (well you already did that but the more the merrier). You can trash her for how she gives a loudspeaker to bullshit pseudo-science and anti-vaccine idiots like Suzanne Somers or Jenny McCarthy. You can trash her for Dr. Phil.

I'm just saying that there's a lot you can say about Oprah in the negative light, going after a movie you have no idea of appears to be the wrong path.

[The Postmaster General]

In general, I think attitudes about people being hollier-than-thou stem more from self-loathing than from people really acting superior. It seems that almost every time I see people accused of being pompous, arrogant, condescending, patronizing, all I end up seeing is someone being genuine and trying to do something in good nature. In the day of the Internet, I'm sure people would be calling Gandhi a self-righteous windbag, or if not that, a fucking hipster.

EDIT: despite all my optimism, Dr. Phil is a cocksucker.

[Reigh Kaufman]

So you're trashing a movie even though a) you've shown that you thought Oprah financed it when she only threw on an executive producer credit to give it noticed more and b) you haven't even seen it.


I'm just saying that there's a lot you can say about Oprah in the negative light, going after a movie you have no idea of appears to be the wrong path.

Could you try to be more wrong on all counts? You've not bothered me enough with how wrong you are yet. I'll let you know when you hit my threshold for tolerating people who make assumptions.

[ProgWizardry]

the personal vitriol I just don't get. She's done way more good than bad anyway you slice it.

No. No way.

Exploiting victims of abuse to summon up their worst feelings and memories on an almost daily basis for pure sensationalism is hardly angelic.

[ilovemovies]

Oh please. Give me a break! She's not holding a gun to these people's head and forcing them on her show. Those victims who appear on her appear because they WANT to. They chose it. I really don't she's been exploiting them.

[APzombie]

eh, you really think she's done more harm to society than good? really?

who do you think has done good in our society then? she's not that sensational. in 25 years you obviously have some sensational stuff, but her heart has always been in every subject.

[ProgWizardry]

eh, you really think she's done more harm to society than good? really?

Yup.

who do you think has done good in our society then?

Well it certainly isn't any talk show host. I will admit that I don't really think hardly any of them do more good than harm.

But certain breakthrough doctors, psychiatrists, and scientists have and will continue to do so.

I have nothing but contempt for people who worship at the altar of a talk show.

The people who go on those shows are being exploited; except for the smart ones who are promoting/plugging a book or something else which benefits them.

[RustyRazor]

She's got a little less money than Scrooge McDuck and that motherfucker was paid. I assume she'll have more time to swim around in her Money Bin now. Like her or hate her, she came from obscurity, got PAID and now she rides off into the sunset with millions of fans who she'll probably give houses in the final season of her show.

Tipping my hat to the woman (hoping Oprah drops a few grand in there)



Still waiting....

[someguy]

Could you try to be more wrong on all counts? You've not bothered me enough with how wrong you are yet. I'll let you know when you hit my threshold for tolerating people who make assumptions.

Well I was right on one part since you did say earlier that Oprah financed the movie when she didn't have any involvement with it until after it was completed and screened at film festivals. You still haven't answered my question though, have you seen the movie?

I was just trying to help you out Reigh, trashing a movie you (possibly) haven't seen is a big pet peeve with lots of people on these forums. I'm just saying there's lots of other reasons to attack her, and going after a movie she had no involvement in other than slapping her name on it is unfair to the movie.

[BakeTheMooCow]

http://i46.tinypic.com/52kgt0.jpg

Reigh, you're being difficult.

[The Postmaster General]

In lieu of recent bannings, it's good to see someone taking the extra time to engage in needless badgering. Is there a waiting list? I'd like to sign up. Can someone link me to the registration page?

[countchocula]

It's funny how all of the people standing up for Oprah are bashing the fuck out of Dr. Phil. The same accolades could be applied to him. He does more good than bad.

[dellamorte dellamore]

You know what exposed her for the self serving primadonna that she is. She refused to interview Palin before the election. This coming from a self proclaimed champion of woman's causes and rights. You would think she would have championed a female vice presidential candidate, a self made woman like herself, nope, she didn't want to take a chance that her mindless, hypnotized "fans" may have taken to Palin, because after all they do whatever she says.

Okay, she wanted Ob to be Pres.( that should have been a clue to vote for the other dummy), so she engaged in what can be considered a media blackout, yeah, how's that for fighting against female oppression, she's so transparent and self serving, how come nobody sees this. Those cars she gave away, it's a tax write off, you really think it's coming out of her pocket, it's also a publicity stunt.

You're telling me she couldn't have interviewed both Ob and Palin before the election, nah, she waited until after. Then when she realized Palin was still a force, a genuinely polarizing personality, she invites her on for ratings. Palin should have told her to fekk off, she wasn't there when she needed her and her book was selling just fine in preorders without Queen Oprah's help.

What about that school she opened up in Africa, weren't girls abused there, she's responsible, after all she's the one funding the operation, she should be fully invested in it's operation.

[countchocula]

Maybe she didn't interview Palin because she gives female politicians a bad name?

[ProgWizardry]

Maybe she didn't interview Palin because she gives female politicians a bad name?

I don't think so.

It's because Oprah and her camp wanted(and still want) to corner the market on compassion; and having a woman on who gave birth and nurtures a baby who is mentally retarded whilst being a conservative(and pro-life) just doesn't sit well with her and her black mass(no pun intended[I mean evil liberal followers]). Not to mention that Palin is far more representative of middle America than Hillary and her ilk could ever be. And liberals and the media HATE middle America.
That and the above reasons that dellamorte dellamore mentioned.

No, I don't support Palin; but Oprah's hypocrisy is glaring here and it is pretty fuuny(and sad) that people actually defend it.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Apologies to someguy for being asshole-ish. My man-period, with no cranberry juice to hand.

Yes, I managed a magificent 17 minutes of the film before I turned it off. It was/is unwatchable.

I have, however, said that I do not actually hate Oprah. Despite QUENTIN's list, she has done more book group harm than Catherine Cookson.

[Lady Stardust]

I'm waiting for Tyra Banks to do the same.

[ProgWizardry]

I'm waiting for Tyra Banks to do the same.

She'll quit vomiting before she quits that.

[The Postmaster General]

It's funny how all of the people standing up for Oprah are bashing the fuck out of Dr. Phil. The same accolades could be applied to him. He does more good than bad.


That's not funny. What's funny is that there's not a single example in this thread where someone has stood up for Oprah for doing more good than bad, but bashed Dr. Phil, much less bashed "the fuck out of" him, for doing more bad than good. Actually you can't really find anything remotely close to that.

If you want to start a discussion about why 2 people think he's a douchebag and cocksucker, that's cool, but no need to be condescending about something that's not there. Only two people have spoken ill of Dr. Phil, so "all of the people" you refer to are me and Quentin.

I don't like him for the brand of guilt-trip counseling he practices. He's a professional who practices based on a theory I don't subscribe to. As a whole I summarize people of his ilk unfavorably, because if I saw anyone talking to anyone the way Dr. Phil talks to his patients, I'd call them cocksuckers too. And I didn't stand up for Oprah, I stood up for people who get bashed for just trying to do good, which would include Dr. Phil. If someone said he was a cocksucker, I'd agree, but not on the basis that he thinks he's "holier-than-thou." I just think he's some guy with a degree who takes shortcuts in his profession by way of making people break down and cry much in the same fashion that professional brain-washers use.

QUENTIN may have other reasons for saying he's a douche but part of the fun of having a discussion is that you can ask for those reasons.

*ba-da-bump*

[ProgWizardry]

As a whole I summarize people of his ilk unfavorably,

A con man?

[countchocula]

I just saw people praising Oprah and bashing Dr. Phil. Maybe it wasn't RAMPANT, but I didn't say it was rampant.

For the majority of his "patients," Dr. Phil's method works. He doesn't do 8-minute cures, and he'll tell you that. He effectively shakes common sense into people, which in my opinion, is a good thing. It's not rocket science, but he isn't dealing with rocket scientists.

Also, I felt that "cocksucker" was a bit harsh. That's just me.

[someguy]

Looks guys, it's obvious that count is a fan of Oprah I mean she's in his avatar for God's sakes!








That's her right?

[ilovemovies]

I personally like Dr. Phil myself. I think he comes off as a pretty cool guy. And I've enjoyed watching a few of his shows. His show is not my cup of tea (hence why I'm not an Oprah fan) but every now and then I'll sit through it.

[bigred760]

I definitely think she's an admirable woman. She's one of the most accomplished woman of my lifetime; she's done so much to propel herself into stardom and to help others.

I don't watch her show at all, so it ending is not that big a deal to me. But even though her show is ending, I doubt we won't hear from her in the future.

[jolanar]

Oprah is an entertaining way to pass the day when I am home with the flu, beyond that I could really care less.

[The Postmaster General]

I just saw people praising Oprah and bashing Dr. Phil. Maybe it wasn't RAMPANT, but I didn't say it was rampant.

For the majority of his "patients," Dr. Phil's method works. He doesn't do 8-minute cures, and he'll tell you that. He effectively shakes common sense into people, which in my opinion, is a good thing. It's not rocket science, but he isn't dealing with rocket scientists.

Also, I felt that "cocksucker" was a bit harsh. That's just me.

I'm not going to get into the semantics over why I think you made 2 people who said one bad word of Dr. Phil sound like much more than that.

I don't thin he does 8 minutes cures, more like a few week cures. I will say he goes for easy fixes that people can get from an issue of Cosmopolitan magazine. He feeds into attention seeking mentalities, and while I don't think this is bad for just some talk show host, I don't like him using his credentials to basically do what Jerry Springer or Maury does, but where those shows it's the people yelling down at people, on his show, it's him yelling down at people.

Fine, cocksucker is a harsh word. I'll call him a man whose methods I find unfavorable to what I consider longer term and more beneficial solutions. I'm just no good a being brief, and cocksucker sounds about right, although I have no evidence that he actually sucks cock, I just didn't think anyone would take issue with it.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Dr. Phil is a motherfucker.

[SkyNet]

Phil is a dumbass... who should be arrested for Fraud

(I refuse to call him DR. Phil as he is NOT a Doctor, yet parades himself as a man who can give medical advice)

and i fully agree about the Tyra Banks thing.. that bitch makes me want to purge myself! So fucking artificial and annoying

[ProgWizardry]

There are a shitload of things that are indicative of the fact that we live in The Age Of Unenlightenment.

People buying diet books from a fat ass con man who calls himself Dr. Phil is only one of them.

[DaveyJoeG]

I thought Oprah was killed by Tom Cruise a couple years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRbhE3GRiUE

[jeo4]

There are a shitload of things that are indicative of the fact that we live in The Age Of Unenlightenment.

People buying diet books from a fat ass con man who calls himself Dr. Phil is only one of them.

The assumption that all liberals are an 'evil black mass' that allegedly hates the midwest is another.

[countchocula]

(I refuse to call him DR. Phil as he is NOT a Doctor, yet parades himself as a man who can give medical advice)

He doesn't give medical advice. Again, it's all about common sense. Have you or Bubba watched more than one full episode of Dr. Phil? Because there are over a thousand episodes, and each one has different guests that received different advice that was unique to them. Many of the guests have received "treatment" for MONTHS or YEARS after their appearance on the show. I don't know where Bubba got his "few-week-cures" information from.

Seriously, how much of Dr. Phil have you guys watched? I've seen at least 600-700 episodes in full, and I feel like I know a great deal about the man and his methods. His story isn't so far removed from Oprah's story. He grew up poor with an alcoholic father. He's a self-made success (he wasn't born on Oprah's shoulder). He has helped MILLIONS of people. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but a lot of his detractors spew forth unfounded allegations.

[The Postmaster General]

He doesn't give medical advice. Again, it's all about common sense. Have you or Bubba watched more than one full episode of Dr. Phil? Because there are over a thousand episodes, and each one has different guests that received different advice that was unique to them. Many of the guests have received "treatment" for MONTHS or YEARS after their appearance on the show. I don't know where Bubba got his "few-week-cures" information from.

Seriously, how much of Dr. Phil have you guys watched? I've seen at least 600-700 episodes in full, and I feel like I know a great deal about the man and his methods. His story isn't so far removed from Oprah's story. He grew up poor with an alcoholic father. He's a self-made success (he wasn't born on Oprah's shoulder). He has helped MILLIONS of people. I don't agree with everything he says and does, but a lot of his detractors spew forth unfounded allegations.

I've seen quite a lot of Dr. Phil. He used to be watched every day where I worked, and here and there I've seen episodes, including episodes where he had a topic I was genuinely interested in.

I can see you are a big fan of his and I'll lay off him because you're cool and if you've found some help or insight from him, that's enough for me. It's not my MO to make you feel like I want to diminish his efforts. I really wish you'd just left me to call him a cocksucker because these aren't things I say very often and when I do it's not just a because I have a chip on my shoulder.

I'm not alleging he does anything, and will reiterate that his methods are not ones I agree with. I'm not sure where the him not being a doctor thing comes from. Not all doctors are medical doctors. It isn't like Dr. Phil is writing scripts or anything. That would be fraud.

[countchocula]

It's cool. I realize there is some joy in calling someone a cocksucker, and I wouldn't want to deny anyone that joy. Have you seen The Doctors? Now that's a show I'm not crazy about. I suppose that it, too, helps people, but it's such an obvious effort to monopolize daytime television.

[dellamorte dellamore]

OP said she wanted to leave Chitown because she's getting on in years and the winters are too cold, she wants to spend time in her mansion in Montecito,CA( thinks that how you spell it).

Now wait "girlfriend", you can't take the cold? How often are you outside and long do the winters last. I imagine you take a limo to the studio, so you're probably only exposed for seconds at a time when the weather is harsh. Now if she was homeless i could see a reason for relocating to a warmer clime, but not when you can remain indoors the majority of the time.

What a wussy, telling other people to suck it up but you're hightailing it out Chitown because you can't take the cold and you want to live in your mansion. I thought she loved Chicago and it's residents, apparently not as much as she pretended too. Hell, even emosexual actors "brave" Ny winters and live in Nyc or Brooklyn just about year round.

Also, supposedly, she avoided moving to Cali in the past because of tax implications, wow i thought she would have loved to give her money away to the gov for all those fabulous social programs, she has billions to spare.

So, apparently she likes tax deductions and write offs, but she doesn't like the taxes they take out and you never see again

[RicochetShaw]

OP said she wanted to leave Chitown because she's getting on in years and the winters are too cold, she wants to spend time i her mansion in Montecito( thinks that how you spell it).

Now wait "girlfriend", you can't take the cold? How often are you outside and long do the winters last. I imagine you take a limo to the studio, so you're probably only exposed for seconds at a time when the weather is harsh. Now if she was homeless i could see a reason for relocating to a warmer clime, but not when you can remain indoors the majority of the time.

What a wussy, telling other people to suck it up but you;re hightailing it out Chitown because you can't take the cold and you want to live in your mansion. I thought she loved Chicago and it's residents, apparently not as much as she pretended too. Hell, even emosexual actors "brave" Ny winters and live in Nyc or Brooklyn just about year round, what a wussy.


Jesus.


do yourself a favor and read what you just wrote.

[echo_bravo]

Seriously, how much of Dr. Phil have you guys watched? I've seen at least 600-700 episodes in full,.

Holy Shit:eek:

[The Postmaster General]

It's cool. I realize there is some joy in calling someone a cocksucker, and I wouldn't want to deny anyone that joy. Have you seen The Doctors? Now that's a show I'm not crazy about. I suppose that it, too, helps people, but it's such an obvious effort to monopolize daytime television.


Yeah, they give good info, but it's groan inducing. Honestly, I don't like most of the high brow daytime shows. It's the same as the lowbrow stuff but with nicer clothes. I was telling the Mrs. about that show, and she saw it then stressed how perfectly I described it: A panel of 4 attractive doctors, each from a different field, but it's basically like The View for medical advice.

[Vong]

"Dr." Phil falls into the category of a talk show dedicated to the appeasement of low-income house-wives who love hearing mindless, quick-fix dribble from a stuck-up half-wit. To me, any show that welcomes regular Joe's and Jane's to talk about their personal shit on live TV to get their 15 minutes of "fame" is retarded.

[hoojib127]

"Dr." Phil falls into the category of a talk show dedicated to the appeasement of low-income house-wives who love hearing mindless, quick-fix dribble from a stuck-up half-wit. To me, any show that welcomes regular Joe's and Jane's to talk about their personal shit on live TV to get their 15 minutes of "fame" is retarded.

...not to mention people who seem to think soap operas represent real life. :rolleyes:

[countchocula]

"Dr." Phil falls into the category of a talk show dedicated to the appeasement of low-income house-wives who love hearing mindless, quick-fix dribble from a stuck-up half-wit. To me, any show that welcomes regular Joe's and Jane's to talk about their personal shit on live TV to get their 15 minutes of "fame" is retarded.

Yeah, you haven't watched the show that much. That's such an off-base comment. I can't even respond to that because it's so out there.