Assumptions that the Twilight hate is only cause it's popular

[vesaker]

So i am getting sick and tired of ppl just assuming that if you don't like Twilight is cause it's popular. What are you 10? Is it not possible to dislike the subject matter for how it's being portrayed in these films?

Can i not dislike something do to my opinion of it? No of course not, i only dislike it cause it's popular and i'm a bad ass rebel who needs to be different.

And what irks me the most is not only that this popularity thing is even brought up as a defense for these movies but that 90% of the time it's the ONLY defense these ppl seem to have.

"Oh man, he's sparkling in the sun?! WTF is up with that nonsense? This is dumb"

"oh you know you just hate it cause it's popular"

riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight :rolleyes:

[Sgizzy316]

I would argue that people hate it because it's popular. I saw the first one and liked it. It was nothing special but I was entertained. I just don't see why there is such a huge cult following other than the fact that little girls can enjoy watching the subliminal sexual messages through metrosexual looking vampires. I would not be so against it had it not been blown up so big by the media and it's crazed fans. I found the movie enjoyable but was scratching my head at the end wondering what all the big fuss was about.

[vesaker]

I would argue that people hate it because it's popular. I saw the first one and liked it. It was nothing special but I was entertained. I just don't see why there is such a huge cult following other than the fact that little girls can enjoy watching the subliminal sexual messages through metrosexual looking vampires. I would not be so against it had it not been blown up so big by the media and it's crazed fans. I found the movie enjoyable but was scratching my head at the end wondering what all the big fuss was about.

See this is valid cause you gave more then "cause it's popular" reason for not liking it. I'm not saying you can't like it cause of the popularity but ppl using that as it's only defense is getting old.

[ilovemovies]

To be fair, I think the haters also make a lot of assumptions on those who like it as well.

[The Postmaster General]

Of course people don't like it because it's popular. How the fuck can you not like something you'd never heard out? Sorry, but I wasn't exactly out looking for movies or stories like Twilight, so yeah... It got popular, I heard about it, and am just like "what the fuck, man?" I can't say I hate it because I haven't seen it. But I can look at the culture surrounding the movies and begin to start listing things I don't like about it's influence on popular culture. Maybe I'll see it and think it's okay. I like 90210, and this looks about like that, except with vampire mythos that's apparently made up on the fly. I like 90210, and I like vampire stuff, but this still looks like amateur hour - who knows though, I'm not judging it.

No matter - yeah, it's a stupid saying. Tell these people that if they'd shut the fuck up about Twilight then people won't hear about it and they can enjoy their narrow view of reality where no one is able to dislike something they like.

Haha. Fucking Twilight, man.

PS - The only reason Twilight is considered so popular is because Kurt Cobain shot himself. Say that to the people who give a shit if someone hates it. Watch them run in circles.

[vesaker]

PS - The only reason Twilight is considered so popular is because Kurt Cobain shot himself. Say that to the people who give a shit if someone hates it. Watch them run in circles.

LMAO

[Reigh Kaufman]

You should NEVER make assumptions. Because you know what happens when you make assumptions?

[Shinigami]

The prob with Twilight is that it's very popular but doesn't resonate with most movie fans. The hate would be a lot less if Twilight was actually a good movie.

The other problem with Twilight is that it's a silly movie for girls instead of for guys. Like Transformers with abs instead of explosions. I'd love the movies if Edward was a robot Bella fell in love with and they had to struggle with how his hand wasn't made to gently hold but only to fire heat seeking missiles voiced by Nicolas Cage. Then it would be like the Terminator with Kristen Stewart biting her lower lip instead of Linda Hamilton emasculating me.

Sure Transformers had good action and special effects, but it also had poor acting and writing and character work. The other stuff was good because they were the selling points to its male target audience. Twilight has terrible effects and action, but it has a good brooding romance to it and plenty of beautiful guys. They're good because they are the selling points. I've been on this before and nobody agreed with me :D, but as stupid as the culture surrounding Twilight is it's not that different from tons of boy tailored blockbusters. You might say it's different because Twilight fans take the movies way more seriously than Michael Bay fans take Transformers, but look at the super hero culture worship going on. It's there even with hardcore movie fans. Batman Begins is not a deep psychological exploration, and yet...

We're blinded to this stuff when it's targeted to us. Twilight should give some perspective.

[vesaker]

Sure Transformers had good action and special effects, but it also had poor acting and writing and character work. The other stuff was good because they were the selling points to its male target audience. Twilight has terrible effects and action, but it has a good brooding romance to it and plenty of beautiful guys. They're good because they are the selling points. I've been on this before and nobody agreed with me :D, but as stupid as the culture surrounding Twilight is it's not that different from tons of boy tailored blockbusters. You might say it's different because Twilight fans take the movies way more seriously than Michael Bay fans take Transformers, but look at the super hero culture worship going on. It's there even with hardcore movie fans. Batman Begins is not a deep psychological exploration, and yet...

We're blinded to this stuff when it's targeted to us. Twilight should give some perspective.

This is true but to believe that the only reason i don't like it is cause it isn't tailored to me or my gender is silly.

It's like you said at the top of your post that the hate would be a lot less if it were actually a good movie.

[SkyNet]

I think Craig Ferguson gives the best reason for disliking these movies/ stories:

Vampires are supposed to be SCARY not ANGSTY!

I firmly agree with that... but i saw the first flick, and i didnt like it simply because i found it to be so insanely boring. Which sucked as i wasa fan of direcotr Catherine Hardwick's, from Thirteen to Lords of DOgtown (never saw Nativity Story, no interest)

i will most likely see New Moon, simply because i have female friends.. and anyone with female friends will most likely have to sit through these flicks!

So i am hoping this second one is better, they have gotten through that first story, the back story, so now the 2nd one can be all action and angsty teen romance!

[A.J. Hakari]

I don't exactly hate Twilight; I never read the books, and both were movies were nothing more than "meh" to me. But boy, does the fandom bring my piss to a boil. After the midnight show, I talked with some fans who had the good sense to acknowledge that New Moon had its fair share of cheesiness. I applaud these guys, but I cannot respect the views of a Twi-hard who looks past the various flaws both films possess (which they do -- good lord, they do...) and go nuts over them just because there are some hot guys in it.

[cloneofkelso]

I havent seen the movies yet but i look at the previews and it just bothers me,vampires should not look like that and aren't suppose to be out in the sun,let alone with no shirt on.

[vesaker]

I've fantasized a few times of the events that could unfold if Cassidy from Preacher ever met up with these Twilight wanker vampires, heh.

[LordSimen]

I've fantasized a few times of the events that could unfold if Cassidy from Preacher ever met up with these Twilight wanker vampires, heh.

Isn't there an arc where he practically does? Granted, they were more Anne Rice than Twilight, but still.

[ScaryFreak1827]

I havent seen the movies yet but i look at the previews and it just bothers me,vampires should not look like that and aren't suppose to be out in the sun,let alone with no shirt on.

I'm going to feel like such a nerd for saying this (and I am in no way a Twilight fan) but those shirtless guys are actually the werewolves.

As for the series, 'meh'. I haven't read the books and I've only seen the first film and it was alright. Kinda cheesy but still entertaining. I think people like and hate the series for various reasons other than just "they're popular."

[vesaker]

Isn't there an arc where he practically does? Granted, they were more Anne Rice than Twilight, but still.

Well it was one vampire with a bunch of goth lacky's where as this is Cassidy kicking the crap out of the whole Twilight brood. Good watching :D

[jbar1026]

IMO a lot of people do hate twilight for no reason. alot of posts on here seem to bash a movie and at the same time hint at the fact that the poster never watch the movie! i found the first entertaining enough. and the secound might be worth a watch.

[SkyNet]

i think another problem i have isnt even with the movies.. its with Kristen Stewart... she is pretty terrible... watching her in interviews is so annoying, because she sucks at that! She is an OKAY actress.. nothing special, but my god she sucks ass in public scenarios.

Thats just a separate beef, nothing really to do with the franchise

[Dirtyfrog]

Twilight doesn't interest me the slightest but i don't hate it . Reminds me of my early metalhead years where anything that wasn't heavy metal music was shit.

[hoojib127]

I'm just fed up with all this vampire shit in general. :p

[cloneofkelso]

I agree about the Kristen Stewart interviews,she is very awkward

[Shinigami]

NEW MOON DESTROYS DARK KNIGHT'S OPENING DAY RECORD


epic

[Natty]

NEW MOON DESTROYS DARK KNIGHT'S OPENING DAY RECORD

No way. Is this a joke?

[Natty]

On the subject of Twilight's popularity, I think that a lot of people hate it not because it's popular but because the fans are annoying, much more so than Harry Potter or Star Wars fans.

I have never seen the film so I can't say I hate it, but the general presence of the film makes me sick. The amount of girls I know who have updated their Facebook status' with "OMG New Moon was amazing", as if their critical analysis actually means anything. I get annoyed at all things that people say are good, when they don't seem to realise that they only think that because they are the target audience.

[Shinigami]

Not a joke. Dark Knight earned 67.2 million opening day. New Moon earned over 70.

[echo_bravo]

I am just pissed off that I didnt come up with this idea. Who knew that books/movies about sparkly lame vampires with no fangs would be such a huge success.:confused:

I am not a good writer at all but I could probably pull off something equally retarded as Twilight. Its written like some bad fan fiction. Just awful. But I gotta give it up to Stephenie Meyer, she is laughing all the way to the bank with this.

[echo_bravo]

Not a joke. Dark Knight earned 67.2 million opening day. New Moon earned over 70.

Never underestimate the power of braindead teenage girls. Wow.:eek:

[Tweek]

To be fair, I think the haters also make a lot of assumptions on those who like it as well.

Yeah, some haters are...a bit extreme.

You should NEVER make assumptions. Because you know what happens when you make assumptions?
No. Please enlighten us. :p

I think Craig Ferguson gives the best reason for disliking these movies/ stories:

Vampires are supposed to be SCARY not ANGSTY!
Indeed. But when I tried reading the first book, all of the (silly) changes made about vampires became the furthest thing from my mind.

and anyone with female friends will most likely have to sit through these flicks!

Hey! :p

I think my best friend might be extremely happy that I'm not a Twilight fan.

Also, why are you going if you don't want to go? :confused:


So i am hoping this second one is better, they have gotten through that first story, the back story, so now the 2nd one can be all action and angsty teen romance!

Hasn't David Slade been quoted as saying that he wants the third one more action-oriented? I can't be arsed to look it up.

[Mr. Creasy]

I hate it... because vampires used to be cool and that movie/book has f**** things up!

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/19/bladej.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/i/bladej.jpg/)

[Tagia_Romero]

I make my fair share of fun at 'Twilight' and focus on the exaggeration that the more zealous fans of the fandom make, but I know that it is targeted toward a particular audience, though if others end up liking it, that's just another factor. All said and done, it keeps that target audience happy, just as these 'ultimate fanboy movies' do that are constantly hyped up here (and we know some of them turned out to be not all that).
And come on, HOW DOES A VAMPIRE PREGNANCY WORK IF THEIR PARTS ARE DEAD?

However, what I hate isn't the stories themselves per se (as lambast-worthy as they are), but the generalizations that people (in particular the haters) make. What do I speak of? Why, assuming that every GIRL likes 'Twilight'. EVERY girl. I do confess I am bias by saying this because I'm biologically female myself, but there are more women out there who AREN'T crazy about the sparkly, constantly brooding vampire and his constantly victimized, useless human love. I see the occasional news story on the main page making this assumption and I get the urge to punch that person, even if I don't know them personally (though truly, it probably wouldn't happen for many reasons). But seeing that shit is what truly gets my goat. Not really the stories and characters themselves, or the fans, but the haters who assume too much and know too little.

[Shinigami]

Why, assuming that every GIRL likes 'Twilight'. EVERY girl


Well are you a girl or a woman?
If you're a girl you like Twilight. If you're a woman you probably like Twilight too because all chicks like this junk. ;)

[Tagia_Romero]

Well are you a girl or a woman?
If you're a girl you like Twilight. If you're a woman you probably like Twilight too because all chicks like this junk. ;)

Haha, okay, females then. That would imply any age. :D

And you can just kiss my butt. :p

[Tweek]

However, what I hate isn't the stories themselves per se (as lambast-worthy as they are), but the generalizations that people (in particular the haters) make. What do I speak of? Why, assuming that every GIRL likes 'Twilight'. EVERY girl. I do confess I am bias by saying this because I'm biologically female myself, but there are more women out there who AREN'T crazy about the sparkly, constantly brooding vampire and his constantly victimized, useless human love. I see the occasional news story on the main page making this assumption and I get the urge to punch that person, even if I don't know them personally (though truly, it probably wouldn't happen for many reasons). But seeing that shit is what truly gets my goat. Not really the stories and characters themselves, or the fans, but the haters who assume too much and know too little.

http://i48.tinypic.com/juhdf4.gif

[Reigh Kaufman]

Yup.

That gif has still got it.

[ProgWizardry]

Normally I get pissed at someone if they hate on movie without having seen it.
But this franchise is an exception.

I am an enormous fan of horror, REAL horror. You know movies that are actually supposed to be scary. And I can say with perfect clarity that after having seen the trailers and clips, I need not see more.

Why? Because it is a fucking joke. How could anybody with a half a brain take this shit seriously? Teen melodramas posing as horror flicks warrants not one viewing from me. If I want to watch One Tree Hill with a metrosexual vamp twist, I'll watch TV.

[razgriz21]

^^^Agree on that Prog.

Really, the mythology seems candy coated and very effeminate.

Vampires are supposed to be savage, cunning, and violent.

[Shinigami]

These movies aren't marketing themselves as horror films.

[Tagia_Romero]

^^^Agree on that Prog.

Really, the mythology seems candy coated and very infeminite.

Vampires are supposed to be savage, cunning, and violent.

I think you mean 'effeminate'.

Anyhow, I don't completely agree with that notion. Vampires, for all intents and purposes symbolize the concerns and dark natures of humans. Not just violence and such, but also the taboo and concern that span far beyond sex and violence of which you speak. If you look at other vampire novels and movies over time, they reflect the major taboos of each era. They symbolize the transgressions that most humans could never bring themselves to commit either because they can't or they don't want to. Pedophilia, incest, political and social upheaval, interpersonal paranoia, all of those things.

[ProgWizardry]

These movies aren't marketing themselves as horror films.

They aren't marketed as teen melodramas either.

In fact they are marketed as vampire films; which is completely misleading.

At least Once Bitten had the decency to market itself as a comedy.

[Shinigami]

I don't think we're able to look someone in the face and tell them what definitively qualifies as a vampire and what does not.

Who has seen Let The Right One In? For those who have, would you think this movie an insult to vampires if Eli was never shown killing anybody? I don't think so. It's the approach that matters, not the intent to broaden a mythological figure beyond horror roots. Let The Right One In is basically Twilight done in an adult way, and I didn't feel the occasional horror element was what gave that movie its legitimacy both as a film and as a vampire story. It was the acting, the atmosphere, the writing.
People complained about Anne Rice for romancing the vampire, but wasn't her rendition truer to the heart of vampires than the creature freaks in fan favorites like Fright Night or Near Dark?

I don't want to get in Twilight's corner too often because the movies are pretty goofy, but some of these criticisms miss the point imo. Like that internet photo of Sutherland from Lost Boys above the caption "Real vampires don't sparkle". I should make one with the new captain, "Real vampires dress like 80s hipsters and wear eyeliner". Childhood favorites are childhood favorites, but if people want to throw down about real vampires they should get their mythological roots straight and be more mindful about generalizing.

[ProgWizardry]

People complained about Anne Rice for romancing the vampire, but wasn't her rendition truer to the heart of vampires than the creature freaks in fan favorites like Fright Night or Near Dark?
.

Yes. And even though I love all of the above, Anne Rice's interpretation, more than anyone else's, really gets to the essence of the vampire.

[Tagia_Romero]

Yes. And even though I love all of the above, Anne Rice's interpretation, more than anyone else's, really gets to the essence of the vampire.

ONE essence of the vampire.

[ProgWizardry]

ONE essence of the vampire.

Ok. Then that is the ONE that best encapsulates them.

Or did I misunderstand you?

[Tagia_Romero]

Ok. Then that is the ONE that best encapsulates them.

Or did I misunderstand you?

Earlier I posted about what vampires stand for, and in this case, the vampires in Rice's books stand for several elements, but they aren't the be all and end all of what vampires symbolize, considering you have thousands of other examples from literature and film, all of which donate another piece of the vampire puzzle.

[ProgWizardry]

Earlier I posted about what vampires stand for, and in this case, the vampires in Rice's books stand for several elements, but they aren't the be all and end all of what vampires symbolize, considering you have thousands of other examples from literature and film, all of which donate another piece of the vampire puzzle.

Fair enough.

Then I'll say that Rice's vamps represent the best mixture of these elements.
(I love Horror Of Dracula too).

[NathanRomano]

You should NEVER make assumptions. Because you know what happens when you make assumptions?

You make an ASS out of U and ME

[Reigh Kaufman]

You make an ASS out of U and ME

You make an ass out of "you" and "umption".

[Tagia_Romero]

You make an ass out of "you" and "umption".

Bah, TEACHERS. :p

[ericdraven]

I found this image on the internet, had to post it on here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v432/thedudeman69/6ec22a0f.jpg?t=1258848723

It was put in the trashy novels section for some reason. hmm.

[Tweek]

That's funny, funny stuff.

[drc5145]

In the end, it's not about the fact that it's a film/book series that is popular or that some feel takes a shit on the vampire mythos

...It's that it takes a shit on quality.



I found this image on the internet, had to post it on here

It was put in the trashy novels section for some reason. hmm.

Haha :p

[Shinigami]

Or somebody who happened to have a camera in a bookstore picked up the book and put it in harlequin section so he could take the picture, although he wasn't thorough because he forgot to swap the book right behind it, which clearly isn't Twilight. oops


captain bringdown strikes again

[ericdraven]

Or somebody who happened to have a camera in a bookstore picked up the book and put it in harlequin section so he could take the picture, although he wasn't thorough because he forgot to swap the book right behind it, which clearly isn't Twilight. oops


captain bringdown strikes again

OH GOD ITS BUZZ KILLINGTON

[Tagia_Romero]

AND HIS GIRLFRIEND DEBBIE DOWNER! :p

[ericdraven]

AND HIS GIRLFRIEND DEBBIE DOWNER! :p

http://sidesalad.net/archives/DebbieDownerRachaelDratch.jpg

[Tagia_Romero]

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/05/pics/05adowner.jpg

[Shinigami]

Hey everybody I found this image on the internet and had to post it here
advertisers hate New Moon too
check out this subtle dig a poster designer must have slipped into one of the promotional sheets because this is in no way a put up job

[ericdraven]

yes, it is stupid. Duh, I know that.

[dfnshow]

i'm sorry but vampires do not sparkle in sunlight !!! :mad::mad:

[Dirtyfrog]

i'm sorry but vampires do not sparkle in sunlight !!! :mad::mad:

Yes they do. It's one the dark secret that vampires didn't want you to know.

Another unknown fact is that vampires never sleep. They go into their coffin to do Soduko and read Archie's comics.

PS. :D

[Brendan M.]

This clip from Conan sums up Twilight perfectly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22EY-y2e8I

[vesaker]

This clip from Conan sums up Twilight perfectly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22EY-y2e8I

oh man that was great! a friend sent me this one last night

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f57c441be1/twilight-cycles

[outsyder]

oh man that was great! a friend sent me this one last night

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/f57c441be1/twilight-cycles

I'd say I was surprised to see Brandon Routh falling this far, but I'm not.

[NuclearMisfit]

I hate how ignorant some fans are when it gets down to facts about the vampire genre, you hear things like this...

"Twilight came first before any of the other Vampire books", and they will not hear any different even if you give them proof.

I understand where your coming from Shinigami but I dont think you can compare a masterpiece like LTROI to Twilight. Its like comparing day and night.

[Brendan M.]

I hate how ignorant some fans are when it gets down to facts about the vampire genre, you hear things like this...

"Twilight came first before any of the other Vampire books", and they will not hear any different even if you give them proof.

I understand where your coming from Shinigami but I dont think you can compare a masterpiece like LTROI to Twilight. Its like comparing day and night.

I had no idea Stephanie Myers predates Bram Stroker. She must be a vampire herself.

[Tagia_Romero]

I had no idea Stephanie Myers predates Bram Stroker. She must be a vampire herself.

Doesn't she WISH. :p

[Shinigami]

I'm sure most schmoes already know the news, but Twilight didn't beat Dark Knight's opening weekend record. :( Stephanie Myers will just have to be content knowing she invented the vampire. :) At least you're first in something, Myers.

[Tagia_Romero]

I'm sure most schmoes already know the news, but Twilight didn't beat Dark Knight's opening weekend record. :( Stephanie Myers will just have to be content knowing she invented the vampire. :) At least you're first in something, Myers.

Smartie Shinigami.

[bigred760]

I'm going to start comparing this series to Titanic; their storylines and themes are completely different obviously, but they both are love stories about "star-crossed lovers." They also have attractive stories that drive "impressionable young girls" (Conan's words) crazy. Both movies hold box office records because of these reasons, in my opinion. People flocking to this movies were not movie geeks, fans, or aficionados, but mostly young girls or women eager to see a hot young stud in a love story.

[Shinigami]

Hey man I've been trying my best to stick up for Twilight in this thread, but that's pretty unfair to Titanic. I remember Leo getting a big push by the young girl market, sure. But Titanic was a film. Maybe a flawed film but a film, not a fluffy teen flick.

Then again I haven't seen the movie in a very long time so I could be sticking my foot in my mouth.

[vesaker]

Then again I haven't seen the movie in a very long time so I could be sticking my foot in my mouth.

that happened to me with Thundercats :(

[Brendan M.]

I'm sure most schmoes already know the news, but Twilight didn't beat Dark Knight's opening weekend record. :( Stephanie Myers will just have to be content knowing she invented the vampire. :) At least you're first in something, Myers.


http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz355970d3.jpg

[electriclite]

I think what's thoroughly disturbing AND annoying is grown ass adults declaring their affiliation to either "Team Jacob" or "Team Edward".



It took me around 6 months to figure out what the hell they were even talking about!

[outsyder]

Why can't we all just get along?

[NuclearMisfit]

I think what's thoroughly disturbing AND annoying is grown ass adults declaring their affiliation to either "Team Jacob" or "Team Edward".



It took me around 6 months to figure out what the hell they were even talking about!

Im apart of TEAM STAKE AND CRUCIFIX! and Team Silverbullet.

[razgriz21]

At least we got a movie to bash instead of Transformers 2.

[Tagia_Romero]

At least we got a movie to bash instead of Transformers 2.

Oh yeah, that one blows too. :D

[Tagia_Romero]

I think what's thoroughly disturbing AND annoying is grown ass adults declaring their affiliation to either "Team Jacob" or "Team Edward".



It took me around 6 months to figure out what the hell they were even talking about!

Oh Jesus, that is troubling.

[Jon Lyrik]

I think what's thoroughly disturbing AND annoying is grown ass adults declaring their affiliation to either "Team Jacob" or "Team Edward".



It took me around 6 months to figure out what the hell they were even talking about!

If they're over 25, they're probably 45-year-old mothers with menopause. Ticktock goes the biological clock.

[soulcollector64]

I admit, I really hate twilight with every fiber of my being. Not because it’s caused a good portion of Earth to become infatuated for sparkly snake people and shape-shifting Native Americans, it’s because of the quality of the author's writing and the fact that it’s basically her sexual fantasies put down on paper and she’s gotten filthy rich off of them and she acts like she’s the greatest author to ever be put in existence. I mean don't get me wrong, it’s great that women now have their own equivalent of the star wars and the lord of the rings films, it’s just that it sucks cause it happens to be twilight, cause it’s not even a few books and films, it’s a fucking brand that tells impressionable girls to give up everything and submit to their precious sparklepire. And it’s not just twatlight either; girls just don’t have very many good role models to look up to these days. Miley Cyrus is pole dancing on ice cream carts while Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Green have nudie pics plastered all over the web. I’m not saying that showing off your body is bad, it’s that they have an “voice”, so to speak, and they either don’t know it or they don’t seem to give a fuck that people look up to them. There’s a difference between celebrating your body and being stupid and exploiting it by sending your little boyfriend some pics by cell phone. Girls need more people who have more than a thimble of brains and talent like Kat Dennings, Fiona Apple, and Skye Sweetam in their lives and way less people like Britney Spears, the Simpson sisters and Paris Hilton.

But back to twatlight, I’m honestly surprised that burger king doesn’t have a special sparkle whopper or some shit while their promoting the new film. it would have been better for Arby’s to do the tie-ins and whatnot cause they have the roast burger, which isn’t really a burger, so it would be perfect.

[thebirdswillgetme]

What really annoys me is that the books are getting a bad rep from these horrible movies. The books were not bad at all in my opinion. Except for the last one =]

[adamjohnson]

What really annoys me is that the books are getting a bad rep from these horrible movies. The books were not bad at all in my opinion. Except for the last one =]

The books are horrible literary abortions. Everyone who has ever read even one is instantly stupider for doing so. It is riddled with spelling and grammatical errors and has taught girls that stalking is romantic and being consumed by boys is the only way relationships work until they finally fuck you into unconsciousness and give you a cesarean section with their vampire teeth.

[drc5145]

The books are horrible literary abortions. Everyone who has ever read even one is instantly stupider for doing so. It is riddled with spelling and grammatical errors and has taught girls that stalking is romantic and being consumed by boys is the only way relationships work until they finally fuck you into unconsciousness and give you a cesarean section with their vampire teeth.

The Man speaks the truth.

They're abortions of literature.

[Jig Saw 123]

The main reason I hate Twilight as a whole is its insistence to create the artificial idea that love can truly do all of this, and the consequences of having sex result in a life of misery and drama. The books are terribly written, and the films portrayal is a softcore porno for teenage girls.

[darknite125]

I hate Twilight for 2 HUGE reasons. Yes they're poorly written and the movies are awful but.

1.) the moral of the story shown to all the young girls who are fans is if the creepy guy stalks you, you should accept his advances and when he treats you like crap you should love him even more. Why can't girls find other role models in the sci-fi/fantsy genre like, Buffy TVS, Wonder Woman, Veronica Mars etc.

2.) There have been many variations on vampires but they all have a common thread. They are all dark, dangerous, sexy creatures of the night. Twilight vampires are whiny emo kids of cloudy days.

[Mr.HyDe807]

I never ragged on this series until I saw it for myself. Well, after watching a good amount on Showtime, I can safely say how fucking unbearable it is to watch these two main characters act like their 5 seconds away from going into shock from being close to one another.

Hell, Kirsten Stewart and Robert Patterson take their literary characters and completely devoid them of any personality at all. All it is "sulk, breath heavily, then make a face like you are close to orgasm". I didn't finish the movie, but since I really couldn't deal with that crap anymore, I'm just glad I tried.:D

[Tweek]

Their literary counterparts also lacked in personality.

[adamjohnson]

I never ragged on this series until I saw it for myself. Well, after watching a good amount on Showtime, I can safely say how fucking unbearable it is to watch these two main characters act like their 5 seconds away from going into shock from being close to one another.

Hell, Kirsten Stewart and Robert Patterson take their literary characters and completely devoid them of any personality at all. All it is "sulk, breath heavily, then make a face like you are close to orgasm". I didn't finish the movie, but since I really couldn't deal with that crap anymore, I'm just glad I tried.:D

Tell me your avatar is ACTUALLY moving and im not just tripping balls right now.

[echo_bravo]

Tell me your avatar is ACTUALLY moving and im not just tripping balls right now.

Glad I am not the only one that noticed that.:eek:

[Mr.HyDe807]

:D

No, you guys aren't tripping balls, it does bob a little. (courtesy of the great schmoe God of War).

[Marley515]

I'm not going to assume I know why people hate the whole Twilight phenom, but I know why I do, and it's not because it's popular.
The writing in those books make any self-respecting writer gag and want to throw the book across the room. At least I did. The writing is just that bad. People were telling me I was just being a "hater" because I wasn't jumping on the bandwagon with these films.
The first movie was okay, it kept my attention.
My fiance was dying to go see New Moon.
We fell asleep.
Disclaimer: My fiance and I LOVE going to see movies. If we fall asleep or walk out, the movie is really terrible. At least I would like to believe so. We tolerate a lot of movies because we love the art of film making.
I just can't tolerate those books or the movies.
They are making a ton of money, so I guess that's the only good thing.