Indiana Jones and the Ghost Seeing Kid

[Mankato]

Maybe by the topic you thought I would eventually hate this film. No way, I think it was a good move hiring M. Night Shymalan as the new writer. He wrote an excellent pop-corn flick (The Sixth Sense) and isn't that what Indiana Jones is about? Popcorn? Hell yeah it is! The only thing I'm concerned about of this project is whether or not Harrison Ford breaks a hip. What's your thoughts on this upcoming sequal?

[HomerSimpson]

I doubt that Harrison Ford will be quite the action hero he once was. What is he now, 70? He will probably have a rather small part and there's gonna be a new action hero. Indy's son, maybe?

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[Mankato]

Homer... He's only like 58 right? He'll be like 60 by the shoot. I hope they dont go to "indy's son" that would blow. Same thing with "indy's brother" or heck! even indy's fuckin' mom! They shouldn't make it that easily predicted. Symalan wont do that. Shymalan will like pick a 6 year old kid who has nothing to do with indy. hehehe, kidding. I have full faith in Shymalan.
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[HomerSimpson]

Yeah, I know he's not 70, I was just joking. 60 is way too much, though. Sure, he could make an Air Force One 2 (hehe... didn't realize how funny this sounds), but I doubt he could do the things he did in the first 3 Indy movies. You know what I find really amusing? Ford is 58 and Connery is 70. So Indy's father is 12 years older than him? There have even been rumors that Connery might return for Indy 4 as well. Hasn't been confirmed, though.

[Mankato]

His father must have been a hit with the ladies /ubb/wink.gif

[TheNuke]

Hold the Damm fucking phone!

First hireing Shymalan could be bad. (Was Sixth Sense really Popcorn? I don't think it was, Armageddon was popcorn not Sixth Sense. Popcorn is special effects and action heros and tits and guns and flying shit.) I just doubt Shymalan talent, I hope he proves me wrong and writes a kick ass Indy.

Second I think Harry Ford could really pull this off. It would be cool to see him come out of retirement as an Archaeologist
because he has a passion for finding one lost relic.

Thrid when would this take place? If Raiders
and Temple were in the 40's and now he's older? What time period are we talking?

This could be really cool if it's done right, M. Night Shymalan let's stay true ok?

[Mankato]

I totally agree with you, except when you call Armageddon a popcorn flick, I fell asleep the first time I saw 'Armageddon' it dragged on like Rosie O'Donnel's fat ass... god I LOVE THAT SIMILIE!!!
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[JoBlo]

I definitely wouldn't define THE SIXTH SENSE as "popcorn" in any sense of the word. I generally tag films with superfluous story lines, over-the-top characters, and a whole lot of wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am with POP in their CORN, and I thought the SIXTH SENSE was much closer to a thriller, if anything.

Having said that, the age of Indiana SHOULD probably make a difference, but not a big one. Consider the old foggies who played JAMES BOND over the years. I think Roger Moore was sporting "adult diapers" when he did A VIEW TO A KILL, and that film was pretty gosh darn cool. It's really more about the story AND the seamlessness of the STUNTMEN. Of course, I wouldn't want to see Kirk Douglas jumping off planes anytime soon, but I think ya get my drift.

Other than that, go M. Night!! (not Knight like those bastards at the Oscars wrote it!)

[csmoose]

I've been dubious about this project since I first heard about it. (Note: dubious, but hopeful.) But considering the people involved (Spielberg, Night, Ford), you can't help but think they'll do it right.

My guess that Indy is an aging professor on the brink of retirement that has long since hung up his whip. They will have to account for Indy's age. Makeup aint't fooling anyone with Ford's wrinkled mug. We can't just pretend that he's 20 years younger.

I think Indy should have a protege, the chip-off-the-old-block type - rebellious and adventurous, just like Indy. He goes off to search for some piece of antiquity and gets in trouble - Indy has to come save him. If Dad Jones is invloved, I bet he will be on his deathbed and inspire Junior to action.

One question - What is Indy in search of this time? One preliminary title for this movie was Indiana Jones and the Lost Continent. Atlantis perhaps?

[Mankato]

I wasn't going to reply to many threads today for the sake of time. But your little plot thing that you came up with is utter stupidity (i'm sorry). Can we leave death-beds and chip-off-the-old block events out of this movie! For the love of god they are so predictable!

You guys put up these kind of plots then when you see the movie you tell everyone how trite they are. So please have more sense then that. Here's what I think... if anyone cares.

The world is infected by a dangerous plauge. It has diminished 50% of the worlds existance. Marcus and Indy's father are on their deathbeds, and Indy's father forces Indy to conquer the people who did this... Linda Tripp and her gang of unruly martians. Now, with the help of Indy's 9 children who are all twins and look exactly like Indy did at their age, he has to save the world by finding the lost city of antlantis and starting up a cable tool show with the help of Tim Allen.

WHAT DO YOU THINK????

[Mankato]

oh... and I forgot to ask if cmoose is a Hollywood Fat Cat? Come on... the brink of retirment!!!?!?!?! So lame!

[TheNuke]

I do think Indy coming out of retirement for a lost relic he has had a passion for his entire life is a good start.

I also think death-beds, chips off blocks, and other cliche stories are out of the question, the people involved would never let this happen. If they did I think I would have to send numerous flaming bags of dog shit to George Lucas and Steven Spielberg because of all the shit they have managed to get away with the fans. They can not ruin this franchise, it's on of the greats. All this stupid ideas for scripts will be rightfully thrown out.

[csmoose]

Ok, Mankato - what's your story suggestion? Please enlighten us all with your brilliant story that hasn't been done 20 times already.

Every story is cliche. The first Indy was cliche. You think they never made a movie about archeologists before? The key is not the story but how it is portrayed. That's why Raiders of the Lost Ark is a classic and Temple of Doom is not.

They have to account for Indy's age (unless they get someone else to play Indy which would just kill the whole thing.) Therefore they need another character to do the big action/stunt sequences. I don't think anyone would believe a 70 year old Indy still swings around with his whip. Personally, I thought one of Indy's students carrying on the tradition would be more interesting than his son or his brother. But I guess it could just be some guy he meets on the street. "Hi. I'm Indy. Want to go search for lost treasure with me?"

Now they could build a story around Indy in a retirement home digging for gold in the back yard, but that might be a little boring.

As for Dad on the death-bed - if he's in the movie, he'd have to be at least 90. That ain't grumpy old men, that's grumpy old men in a wheel chair. Or would you rather have him running around with the budding flower-power movement? I'm hoping that, as talented as Night is, he won't put Dad in the movie. But IF he does, the geezer will have to be close to death, unless we're talking about flashbacks and that's a whole other matter.

If this movie is going to be made - (I'm starting to think the whole thing is a bad idea) - then the writer has to account for this stuff. If this were some new movie without predefined characters, the writer could do anything he wants, but this isn't. These characters already have a film history that the writer cannot just ignore. (Remember Highlander 2, when they tried to make it interesting by saying that the immortals came from a different planet - completely ignoring the first movie.)

So, Mankato, please, tell me what is your brilliant idea?

[HomerSimpson]

csmoose, what do you mean "The Temple of Doom" was not a classic? I personally think it was the best in the series and one of my favorite movies. It's one of the most entertaining movies of all time. What is it that people see in "Raiders" that's not in "Temple"???

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[csmoose]

Sorry to dis your fave, Homer, but Temple of Doom is usually considered the low point in the trilogy (if not in Spielberg's career).

The usual gripes with Temple are the weak story line and flat direction. Its just not as compelling as Raiders or Crusade. I'm not saying there's nothing redeeming in Temple, just not as good as the others.

[HomerSimpson]

Well, I for one thought the story was pretty good. Flat direction??????????? Did we see the same movie?

The first one was great but not as exciting as the second one. I just didn't find it that interesting. It had some good action, but nothing compared to the awesome scenes in "Temple". The third one was better than the first. Actually, I liked it almost as much as "Temple". I liked the rleationship between Indy and his father, and the movie had some pretty cool action. It's also the funniest of the three.

I would pick "The Lost World" as Spielberg's low point. Now THAT had flat direction!

[Matias]

Harrison Ford is a legend. The Fugitive... Great.

[csmoose]

Remember that guy in Lost World that got stomped by the T-rex and his body was hanging between its toes? I think thats how Spielberg must have felt when he made that movie. Absolutely flat. I think you're right, Homer, worse than Temple. Though I still think Raiders the superior film.

[Uriah the Hittite]

Another Indiana Jones movie? I doubt it would fly. Only if Ford can play an ex- president who digs up artifacts in the local nursing home flower garden. Add a series of flirtation scenes with an actress half his age and you may have a movie worth booing. Perhaps he can advertise depend undergarments after every dangerous action sequence.
Seriously though, maybe Spielberg will make another Indy movie just to cast his unemployed wife in another annoying bimbo lead actress role. And by the way, how old is Shortround, thirty seven? Maybe he can be Kate Capshaw's love interest in the next installment. Can anyone say "no time for luv, Dr jones!" I hope Ford and Spielberg allow the Indy trilogy to remain just that. A trilogy.

[specter]

If someone knows when the 4th Indy Jones is gonna come out tell me I am a big fan of him.

[HomerSimpson]

specter it's due any time from 2002 to 2010

[specter]

great ,shit I don t wonna wait.

[kerryanne]

I am really repeating myself here(Already posted this on what lies beneath)- but oh well- Here's the question- If they could find somebody else to play Indy- could they do it to the same effect that has kept all of us coming back to watch the films? To me it seems to James Bond-ish. Who the hell else could they get to play this part- and wouldn't you be a little disappointed when you finally saw it? Opinions on this one are welcome- but I am telling you- Harrison Ford is the ONLY Indiana Jones in my eyes.

[retardinAz]

I think that there are many young actors who could play the role. I can't think of any, but open your fields a little. Pierce Brosnan is a pretty good Bond.

[yvonne]

what is the definition of a popcorn film? yvonne

[Mr. Meat]

Thats what I want to know. From what I've read here the definition is a crappy movie with special effects, bad dialouge and uninspired 1 dimensional characters. I like Indiana Jones as much as the next guy, but I think ANY good movie is a "popcorn" flick. Are you guys trying to say a popcorn flick is a movie without meaning and loads of action and over the top special effects?

Also, everybody lay off of Ford. We are all aging. He can still kick some ass on the big screen, even if he has to have a walker.

[kerryanne]

Retard I agree with you that Brosnan is a great Bond... I'm just saying in my opinion, Harrison Ford will always be Indiana Jones... They may find another, but the ones he starred in will always be my favorites. Just like the old Bond movies they will go down as classics.


Just for the record I know that the Bond movies to some may seem a little um... cheesy, but James Bond is the man! /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif

[Mankato]

To me Sean Connery will always be bond. But If I had to chose another indy I have to say (dont yell at me for this) they should re-hire the guy who did him in the Young Indiana Jones thing, i haven't seen much of him recently except for his work in his new TV show. But I think he could be good if they were looking for a new one... just give it a few years that's all.

Oh no, you guys are gonna beat me up now aren't you?

[Jessica3000]

My God, I can't beleive that Harrison Ford is almost 60! It totally blows my mind!He looks good for 60, he almost old enogh to be my grandfather! LOL

[Jessica3000]

I dont know what made me think of this movie, probably cause you mentioned Sean Conery, but I loved the movie, "The Rock", that was an awesome flick. And am I missing the picture or something? are people insulting the sixth sense, cause I love that movie /ubb/mad.gif

[maurice_supple]

heres an original idea,
what if indy quits relic hunting, has a child that sees dead people, realises that the entire world is a computer program run by vampires called buffy angel and blade, as for the love interest he could fall in love with a tart (apple pie), find out something about mary, build a time machine out of a delorean car, crash it and then he too could see dead people so then he joins up with a car insurance fraud company, he could get into all sticks and scrapes flying here and there starting up franchises for fight club.

not your average boy meets girl flick at all

[Tuukka]

I just hope that if they make a new Indy, Ford shouldn't pretend to be 35 years old. I like the idea that he comes back from the retirement. It would be really cool if he would be close to 55, like Ford is. What happens to a kind of superhero when he gets old? How does he deal with it? It could be an interesting approach. Something like the comic artist Frank Miller did to Batman with "The Dark Knight".

Anyway, I agree that Part one is best in the series. It has the best screenplay. Great characters all around, great directing, intelligent humour, good action and excellent chemistry between the two leads. Part two wasn't so good, because the kid and the girl were badly written and annoying. The humour was too slapstick and directing was too heavyhanded.

I admit that I liked the part two better, when I was a kid, but later on I started to appreciate part one more.

Raiders of the lost ark: 9/10
Temple of the doom: 7/10
The last crusade: 8/10