BAFTA or OSCAR: Which is better?

[inglourious basterd]

I just stumbled onto the nominees for the British Academy Awards. For the most part, I thought that the choices for those awards were better than those for the Oscars. What do you guys think? Here they are:


FILM
AMELIE Claudie Ossard
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Brian Grazer/Ron Howard
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Jackson/Barrie M Osborne/Tim Sanders/Fran Walsh
MOULIN ROUGE Martin Brown/Baz Luhrmann
/Fred Baron
SHREK Aron Warner/John H Williams /Jeffrey Katzenberg

THE ALEXANDER KORDA AWARD
for the outstanding British Film of the Year
BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY Tim Bevan/Eric Fellner/Jonathan Cavendish
GOSFORD PARK Robert Altman/Bob Balaban/David Levy
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE David Heyman/Chris Columbus
IRIS Robert Fox/Scott Rudin/Richard Eyre
ME WITHOUT YOU Finola Dwyer/Sandra Goldbacher

THE CARL FOREMAN AWARD
for the most promising newcomer to British Film
STEVE COOGAN / HENRY NORMAL Writers: The Parole Officer
JULIAN FELLOWS Writer: Gosford Park
JOEL HOPKINS / NICOLA USBORNE Writer & Director/Producer: Jump Tomorrow
RUTH KENLEY-LETTS Producer: Strictly Sinatra
JACK LOTHIAN Writer: Late Night Shopping
RICHARD PARRY Director/Co writer: South West 9

THE DAVID LEAN AWARD
for achievement in Direction
AMELIE Jean-Pierre Jeunet
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Ron Howard
GOSFORD PARK Robert Altman
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Jackson
MOULIN ROUGE Baz Luhrmann

SCREENPLAY
(Original)
AMELIE Guillaume Laurant/Jean-Pierre Jeunet
GOSFORD PARK Julian Fellowes
MOULIN ROUGE Baz Luhrmann/Craig Pearce
THE OTHERS Alejandro Amenabar
THE ROYAL TENENBAUMS Wes Anderson/Owen Wilson

SCREENPLAY
(Adapted)
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Akiva Goldsman
BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY Helen Fielding/Andrew Davies/Richard Curtis
IRIS Richard Eyre/Charles Wood
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Fran Walsh/Philippa Boyens/Peter Jackson
SHREK Ted Elliott/Terry Rossio/Joe Stillman/Roger S.H. Schulman

PERFORMANCE
by an ACTRESS in a LEADING ROLE
JUDI DENCH Iris
NICOLE KIDMAN The Others
SISSY SPACEK In the Bedroom
AUDREY TAUTOU Amelie
RENEE ZELLWEGER Bridget Jones's Diary

PERFORMANCE
by an ACTOR in a LEADING ROLE
JIM BROADBENT Iris
RUSSELL CROWE A Beautiful Mind
IAN MCKELLEN The Lord of the Rings
KEVIN SPACEY The Shipping News
TOM WILKINSON In the Bedroom

PERFORMANCE
by an ACTRESS in a SUPPORTING ROLE
JENNIFER CONNELLY A Beautiful Mind
JUDI DENCH The Shipping News
HELEN MIRREN Gosford Park
MAGGIE SMITH Gosford Park
KATE WINSLET Iris

PERFORMANCE
by an ACTOR in a SUPPORTING ROLE
HUGH BONNEVILLE Iris
JIM BROADBENT Moulin Rouge
ROBBIE COLTRANE Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
COLIN FIRTH Bridget Jones's Diary
EDDIE MURPHY Shrek

THE ANTHONY ASQUITH AWARD
for achievement in Film Music
AMELIE Yann Tiersen
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Howard Shore
MOULIN ROUGE Craig Armstrong/Marius De Vries
MULHOLLAND DRIVE Angelo Badalamenti
SHREK Harry Gregson-Williams/John Powell

FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
AMELIE Claudie Ossard/Jean-Pierre Jeunet
AMORES PERROS Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu
BEHIND THE SUN Arthur CohnlWalter Salles
MONSOON WEDDING Caroline BaronlMira Nair
THE PIANO TEACHER Veit HeiduschkaI/Michael Haneke

CINEMATOGRAPHY
AMELIE Bruno Delbonnel
BLACK HAWK DOWN Slawomir Idziak
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Andrew Lesnie
THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE Roger Deakins
MOULIN ROUGE Donald M McAlpine

PRODUCTION DESIGN
AMELIE Aline Bonetto
GOSFORD PARK Stephen Altman
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Stuart Craig
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Grant Major
MOULIN ROUGE Catherine Martin

COSTUME DESIGN
GOSFORD PARK Jenny Beavan
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Judianna Makovsky
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Ngila Dickson/Richard Taylor
MOULIN ROUGE Catherine Martin/Angus Strathie
PLANET OF THE APES Colleen Atwood

EDITING
AMELIE Hervé Schneid
BLACK HAWK DOWN Pietro Scalia
THE LORD OF THE RINGS John Gilbert
MOULIN ROUGE Jill Bilcock
MULHOLLAND DRIVE Mary Sweeney

SOUND
BLACK HAWK DOWN Chris Munro/Per Hallberg/Michael Minkler/Myron Nettinga/Karen Baker
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE John Midgley/Eddy Joseph/Ray Merrin/Graham Daniel/Adam Daniel
THE LORD OF THE RINGS David Farmer/Hammond Peek/Christopher Boyes/Gethin Creagh/Michael Semanick/Ethan Van der Ryn/Mike Hopkins
MOULIN ROUGE Andy Nelson/Anna Behlmer/Roger Savage/Guntis Sics/Gareth Vanderhope/Antony Gray
SHREK Andy Nelson/Anna Behlmer/Wylie Stateman/Lon Bender

ACHIEVEMENT IN SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS
A.I ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE Dennis Muren/Scott Farrar/Michael Lantieri
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Robert Legato/Nick Davis/John Richardson/Roger Guyett/Jim Berney
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Jim Rygiel/Richard Taylor/Alex Funke/Randall William Cook/Mark Stetson
MOULIN ROUGE Chris Godfrey/Andrew Brown/Nathan McGuinness/Brian Cox
SHREK Ken Bielenberg

MAKE UP/HAIR
GOSFORD PARK Sallie Jaye/Jan Archibald
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Amanda Knight/Eithné Fennell/Nick Dudman
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Owen/Peter King/Richard Taylor
MOULIN ROUGE Maurizio Silvi/Aldo Signoretti
PLANET OF THE APES Rick Baker/Toni G/Kazuhiro Tsuji

SHORT FILM
ABOUT A GIRL Janey de Nordwall/Brian Percival/Julie Rutterford
INFERNO Teun Hilte/Paul Kousoulides/ Sharat Sardana

THE RED PEPPERS Lee Santana/Dominic Santana
SKIN DEEP Andy Porter/Yousaf Ali Khan
TATTOO Arabella Page Croft/Sara Putt/ Jules Williamson/Jemma Field

SHORT ANIMATION
CAMOUFLAGE Jonathan Bairstow/Jonathan Hodgson
DOG Suzie Templeton
HOME ROAD MOVIES Dick Arnall/Robert Bradbrook/ Ian Sellar
TUESDAY Geoff Dunbar/Judith Roberts
THE WORLD OF INTERIORS Chris Shepherd/Bunny Schendlar



[This message has been edited by psudoazn (edited 02-17-2002).]

[The Heart Collector]

I don't see MEMENTO up for anything. Is this because it was released in 2000 there or what?

[Scarface989]

whats w/
the double nomination for Judi Dench? apparently its not just the oscars that reward overrated actresses
Robbie Coltrane doing there?
no Memento or Ghost World?
Ian McKellan in best actor? hes clearly a supporting actor
no Ridley Scott for Black Hawk Down? no BHD at all cept for the technical crap?
the Gosford Park presence?

[urbanlegend23]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">
FILM
AMELIE Claudie Ossard
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Brian Grazer/Ron Howard
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Jackson/Barrie M Osborne/Tim Sanders/Fran Walsh
MOULIN ROUGE Martin Brown/Baz Luhrmann
/Fred Baron
SHREK Aron Warner/John H Williams /Jeffrey Katzenberg</font>

Yay for Shrek, Moulin Rouge and LOTR. I haven't seen A Beautiful Mind yet, but Amelie is seriously not deserving of Best Picture. It was good and entertaining, but not life-changing and there were lots of better movies in 2001.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">THE ALEXANDER KORDA AWARD
for the outstanding British Film of the Year
BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY Tim Bevan/Eric Fellner/Jonathan Cavendish
GOSFORD PARK Robert Altman/Bob Balaban/David Levy
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE David Heyman/Chris Columbus
IRIS Robert Fox/Scott Rudin/Richard Eyre
ME WITHOUT YOU Finola Dwyer/Sandra Goldbacher</font>

They'll give it to Gosford Park, but Harry Potter is the best movie out of them, followed closely by Bridget Jones's Diary.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">THE CARL FOREMAN AWARD
for the most promising newcomer to British Film
STEVE COOGAN / HENRY NORMAL Writers: The Parole Officer
JULIAN FELLOWS Writer: Gosford Park
JOEL HOPKINS / NICOLA USBORNE Writer & Director/Producer: Jump Tomorrow
RUTH KENLEY-LETTS Producer: Strictly Sinatra
JACK LOTHIAN Writer: Late Night Shopping
RICHARD PARRY Director/Co writer: South West 9</font>

Don't know any of the people, but just on good word, I'd say Julian Fellowes.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">THE DAVID LEAN AWARD
for achievement in Direction
AMELIE Jean-Pierre Jeunet
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Ron Howard
GOSFORD PARK Robert Altman
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Jackson
MOULIN ROUGE Baz Luhrmann</font>

Almost perfect, just replace Jeunet with Chris Columbus and Altman with Alejandro Amenabar.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SCREENPLAY
(Original)
AMELIE Guillaume Laurant/Jean-Pierre Jeunet
GOSFORD PARK Julian Fellowes
MOULIN ROUGE Baz Luhrmann/Craig Pearce
THE OTHERS Alejandro Amenabar
THE ROYAL TENENBAUMS Wes Anderson/Owen Wilson</font>

Excellent nominations, I'll just have to see how Gosford Park and Royal Tennenbaums turn out.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SCREENPLAY
(Adapted)
A BEAUTIFUL MIND Akiva Goldsman
BRIDGET JONES'S DIARY Helen Fielding/Andrew Davies/Richard Curtis
IRIS Richard Eyre/Charles Wood
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Fran Walsh/Philippa Boyens/Peter Jackson
SHREK Ted Elliott/Terry Rossio/Joe Stillman/Roger S.H. SchulmanP</font>

Haven't seen A Beautiful Mind, and Iris' script had a shitty conclusion and some slutty characters, but apart from that, very good.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PERFORMANCE
by an ACTRESS in a LEADING ROLE
JUDI DENCH Iris
NICOLE KIDMAN The Others
SISSY SPACEK In the Bedroom
AUDREY TAUTOU Amelie
RENEE ZELLWEGER Bridget Jones's Diary</font>

OK, I'm not against Amelie or anything, but Tatou seriously didn't have much to do. Just run around spouting funny lines, doing funny things, smiling and generally looking cute. I'd prefer to see another nomination for Nicole Kidman, or possibly one for Reese Witherspoon, who were much better.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PERFORMANCE
by an ACTOR in a LEADING ROLE
JIM BROADBENT Iris
RUSSELL CROWE A Beautiful Mind
IAN MCKELLEN The Lord of the Rings
KEVIN SPACEY The Shipping News
TOM WILKINSON In the Bedroom</font>

Ian McKellen may be the anchor of LOTR, but he's not the leading role. Broadbent is sort of a supporting actor in this category too, but its good to see the Academy make way for his brilliance in Moulin Rouge, too. Where the FUCK is Ewan McGregor??!!

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PERFORMANCE
by an ACTRESS in a SUPPORTING ROLE
JENNIFER CONNELLY A Beautiful Mind
JUDI DENCH The Shipping News
HELEN MIRREN Gosford Park
MAGGIE SMITH Gosford Park
KATE WINSLET Iris</font>

Haven't seen any of them apart from Winslet, but for crying out loud, Judi Dench again? Sure, shes a brilliant actress - but I would've liked to see Frances O'Connor or BLOODY Cameron Diaz on there as well! Geez!

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PERFORMANCE
by an ACTOR in a SUPPORTING ROLE
HUGH BONNEVILLE Iris
JIM BROADBENT Moulin Rouge
ROBBIE COLTRANE Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
COLIN FIRTH Bridget Jones's Diary
EDDIE MURPHY Shrek</font>

Don't agree with all of them, but yay for Broadbent and Firth, and it's good to see Murphy is getting recognition for his great voicing as Donkey, and Coltrane is getting applause for his excellence in HP.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">THE ANTHONY ASQUITH AWARD
for achievement in Film Music
AMELIE Yann Tiersen
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Howard Shore
MOULIN ROUGE Craig Armstrong/Marius De Vries
MULHOLLAND DRIVE Angelo Badalamenti
SHREK Harry Gregson-Williams/John Powell</font>

Good nominations. I have Gregson-Williams, and Amelie's music was excellent. This category really belongs to Rouge, but I wouldn't mind in the slightest if LOTR took it home.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">FILM NOT IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE
AMELIE Claudie Ossard/Jean-Pierre Jeunet
AMORES PERROS Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu
BEHIND THE SUN Arthur CohnlWalter Salles
MONSOON WEDDING Caroline BaronlMira Nair
THE PIANO TEACHER Veit HeiduschkaI/Michael Haneke</font>

I don't even know why they have this category is a film not in the english language is nominated for Best Picture. Amelie will bag it, easy.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">CINEMATOGRAPHY
AMELIE Bruno Delbonnel
BLACK HAWK DOWN Slawomir Idziak
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Andrew Lesnie
THE MAN WHO WASN'T THERE Roger Deakins
MOULIN ROUGE Donald M McAlpine</font>

Good call, but Amelie over such camera-work like A.I. Artificial Intelligence, Pearl Harbor, Fast and the Furious and Vanilla Sky? NO! Same goes for The Man Who Wasn't There. I always love it see it wind up with a nom for a couple of things (especially when it got nominated for Best Picture over Amelie) but there was better cinematography that year.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">PRODUCTION DESIGN
AMELIE Aline Bonetto
GOSFORD PARK Stephen Altman
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Stuart Craig
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Grant Major
MOULIN ROUGE Catherine Martin</font>

Great noms, I also might've extended it a little and added Spy Kids and Planet of the Apes.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">COSTUME DESIGN
GOSFORD PARK Jenny Beavan
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Judianna Makovsky
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Ngila Dickson/Richard Taylor
MOULIN ROUGE Catherine Martin/Angus Strathie
PLANET OF THE APES Colleen Atwood</font>

All correct, even though I haven't seen Gosford Park I've seen pictures and the costumes are very good. Thank GOD Amelie isn't nominated.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">EDITING
AMELIE Hervé Schneid
BLACK HAWK DOWN Pietro Scalia
THE LORD OF THE RINGS John Gilbert
MOULIN ROUGE Jill Bilcock
MULHOLLAND DRIVE Mary Sweeney</font>

Black Hawk Down, LOTR, Moulin Rouge, good good. I found nothing especially excellent about Mulholland's editing, but Amelie's nomination I can accept, although Hannibal or Pearl Harbor would've been a better candidate.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SOUND
BLACK HAWK DOWN Chris Munro/Per Hallberg/Michael Minkler/Myron Nettinga/Karen Baker
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE John Midgley/Eddy Joseph/Ray Merrin/Graham Daniel/Adam Daniel
THE LORD OF THE RINGS David Farmer/Hammond Peek/Christopher Boyes/Gethin Creagh/Michael Semanick/Ethan Van der Ryn/Mike Hopkins
MOULIN ROUGE Andy Nelson/Anna Behlmer/Roger Savage/Guntis Sics/Gareth Vanderhope/Antony Gray
SHREK Andy Nelson/Anna Behlmer/Wylie Stateman/Lon Bender</font>

Okay, I know Pearl Harbor was universally slammed, but not nominating it in this category is a criminal offense.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">ACHIEVEMENT IN SPECIAL VISUAL EFFECTS
A.I ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE Dennis Muren/Scott Farrar/Michael Lantieri
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Robert Legato/Nick Davis/John Richardson/Roger Guyett/Jim Berney
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Jim Rygiel/Richard Taylor/Alex Funke/Randall William Cook/Mark Stetson
MOULIN ROUGE Chris Godfrey/Andrew Brown/Nathan McGuinness/Brian Cox
SHREK Ken Bielenberg</font>

We have the Pearl Harbor problem again, and Shrek's animation effects were no match for Final Fantasy.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">MAKE UP/HAIR
GOSFORD PARK Sallie Jaye/Jan Archibald
HARRY POTTER AND THE PHILOSOPHER'S STONE Amanda Knight/Eithné Fennell/Nick Dudman
THE LORD OF THE RINGS Peter Owen/Peter King/Richard Taylor
MOULIN ROUGE Maurizio Silvi/Aldo Signoretti
PLANET OF THE APES Rick Baker/Toni G/Kazuhiro Tsuji</font>

Hannibal and A.I. should've nabbed Harry Potter and Gosford Park's places, but very well picked nonetheless.

Well, there you have it, my overview of the BAFTAS. I like them each year, they're a good award ceremony. This year the absence of Pearl Harbor and the addition of Amelie kinda pissed me off, but I'm still pleased with how they turned out.

[herculeez]

I've never really liked the baftas.
It was the awards that always used to be on after the oscars and it was the petty crap british version of the all glamorous oscars and it could simply never achieve the same status as the american awards.
But within the past few years it has made an improvement, they've glamourised the whole even, americanised it, it seems to be more important to films these days to get bafta aswell as oscar nominations and due to all the sudden interest, the quality has also boosted up.
I think they are very good awards now, just as good as the oscars, though not as hyped as them and their nominations are by no means worse, they in fact give other good movies a chance in certain categories which the oscars would never give eg.
Baftas have given Amelie a nomination in the best movie category, where as the oscars would merely put the movie in the best foreign film category which is not justifying the movie what so ever!

[snootch]

i'm guessing that the BAFTA's predict the outcome of the Oscars about as well as the Golden Globes do...which is not at all. I'm really looking forward to this year's awards because I just know that the Academy is going to recognized LOTR for what it is...the BEST PICTURE of the year! Woo hoo!