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urbanlegend23
02-16-2002, 01:34 AM
I have heard many things about Tylers so-called "bad" performance in LOTR: FOTR. Personally I think her character is quite interesting and I thought she did a great job. Certainly not as good as Cate Blanchett, but a very heroic and sensitive character. She spoke Elvish well and overall I don't think Liv was as bad as everyone says she is. What did you think of her performance as Arwen?

Scrunch
02-16-2002, 02:04 AM
I saw the movie before I read the book. (Just finished the book yesterday.)

I thought Liv Tyler was perfect for the role. I myself in online RPGs tend to play and RP elves more than other races so I was paying close attention. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif And her elvish was brilliant. It scared me when I started to understand some even without the subtitles. (Yes, I'm a geek and have an elvish dictionary - sue me.)

I actually didn't totally like Cate Blanchett myself. Of all things her hair bugged me. I think after reading the book that she played the role alright and I can't think of who would have done a better job but I thought Arwen was significantly more beautiful than Galadriel. And both of them being elves (and technically related elves) I guess I just was a little disappointed with Galadriel.

Snowboy
02-16-2002, 03:30 AM
Wow. I thought someone would never ask about Liv Tyler's role in LOTR. Her work in that film was truly sublime. She was heroic, yet like stated before, sensitive. She is a talented actress whom I hope to see really stretch her acting muscles in years to come.
I found it interesting how they took out Glorfindel, and made Arwen the warrior. Interesting idea there. As for Cate Blanchett, I ADORE her work always. But I felt her character was slightly under-developed, (don't get me wrong she is an incredible actress). But that's my 2 cents http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kami
02-16-2002, 04:12 AM
I thought Arwen and Legolas were the perfect people for their roles. Liv Tyler not only had the long face and smooth skin look for the Elf image, she had the deep, sexy voice for speaking Elvish too. (You can listen to her talk at http://www.elvishtranslator.com (http://www.elvishtranslator.com)))

I couldn't stand the Elves at the Council of Elrond or Haldir. However, Haldir's two brothers that stood in the background were nicely cast.

I loooove saying, "Hon mabathon. Rochon ellint im." It just rolls off your tongue so beautifully. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

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thompsoncory
02-16-2002, 10:00 AM
I agree that she was good, but you can't really consider her five-minute scene in the movie a "performance."

SteveSzyk
02-16-2002, 11:23 AM
I was upset when I found out she had such a small role. But I thought she handled it very well, and did a great job. Those who have read the books: Will she be back?

ColinM
02-16-2002, 11:38 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by thompsoncory:
I agree that she was good, but you can't really consider her five-minute scene in the movie a "performance."</font>

I agree. I thought she did well with what she had, but it was too tiny of a role. If it were another movie, it would probably be considered a cameo. But you can tell from her small screentime that Liv Tyler is a very good actress.

(I'll bet if Judi Dench played that part, she wouldn't have been as good but would have gotten an Oscar for it. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif )

Cate Blanchett was at least four times better, though.

BakeTheMooCow
02-16-2002, 11:59 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ColinM:
I'll bet if Judi Dench played that part, she wouldn't have been as good but would have gotten an Oscar for it. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif
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lol. i was just about to say the very same thing. And she's nominated this year as well. I think the academy counts her as a nominee before her movies are made.

Dumb-Fokker-**
02-16-2002, 12:14 PM
Actually her screentime was about 15 minutes, all together. And thank goodness someone else agrees with me about Cate Blanchett. I thought she did excellent in her role as Galadriel, and I actually thoght her transformation was great. It gives me goose-bumps everytime. And yes, Galadriel, and Arwen will both be returning in future films, and for any who thought that their roles were too small - lets just wait for the SE DVD.

Scrunch
02-16-2002, 07:15 PM
I got the impression that screen time was part of the reason Arwen became the warrior. She would have had even less time had the brother been the one to find them in the woods.

I can't get that elvish translator link to work http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Scarface989
02-16-2002, 07:27 PM
(I'll bet if Judi Dench played that part, she wouldn't have been as good but would have gotten an Oscar for it. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif )

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that's the funniest thing I've heard all day. its funny cause it's true. almost haunting, too

dellamorte dellamore
02-17-2002, 08:51 AM
I was sold on Liv Tyler's acting for a while now,she brings an undeniable grace and ethereal quality to her roles,and it would have been terrific if she had a larger role in Rings.


Judi Dench is a perrenial Oscar Fave(i think because supposedly the average age of the voters is 55)and she's old enough to have played spin the stone with Moses.


Once they fall in Love with someone,no matter what they do they will always be in the running.J Roberts,Hanks,D Washington,Juliet Binoche are Hwood darlings.And anyone over 50 or someone that hails from Europe with a sexy accent.

I got off track,yes Tyler made my pulse race in her limited screen time,she was the perfect choice.

arto_j
02-17-2002, 12:25 PM
I wouldn't say she was bad. I was quite disappointed actually, since she was in the film only for a few minutes and I thought she had a bigger role, stupid me. Well, I haven't read the book, so I guess she might return in a bigger part in the upcoming films.

SIREN30
02-19-2002, 04:49 PM
I think she was lovely and her accent was effective. I also felt the love-scene. She's a very good actress and people who didnt like her must be very difficult to please.

ParileseMonster
02-19-2002, 08:50 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by thompsoncory:
I agree that she was good, but you can't really consider her five-minute scene in the movie a "performance."</font>

Then what the hell was it then? Decoration? I just do not get your logic dude! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif