"Lord Of The Rings" is going to ROCK!!!

[Tuukka]

As you might know, they have just shown 25 minutes of screen footage of the first LOTR film "Fellowship Of The Film" at Cannes, plus three minutes of the montage from the other two films. Reports are flooding from Cannes and the response to the footage is EXTREMELY positive.

It seems that people were pretty stunned after seeing the footage. Reportedly the SFX is revolutionary, acting is great, atmosphere perfect and the action sequences stunning. Also the footage apparently has an epic quality to it that is totally unseen in any other film before.

My expectations just went through the roof. This is one of the happiest moments of my life. /ubb/smile.gif

[Cyclonus]

I can't tell you how happy I am to hear that! When I first knew that Peter Jackson was making this trilogy, I was intrigued, yet concerned about his ability to handle such a mammoth project. What if it turns out to be the Heaven's Gate of the 21st Century? /ubb/frown.gif

Now that I know better--Whew! /ubb/biggrin.gif

[Tuukka]

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGGGHHHHH!!!

Just finished reading a few new reports and it all sounds too good to be true! Still seven months to go!

[ak]

Could these films truly be the greatest most epic of all time: Yes is definately my answer, f*ck all the hype, this is going to knock every other film for f*cking six.

[DaMovieMan]

Well i cant wait to see this film now!

but i just wanna know whats happening with Tarantino. Did anyone see him at the Cannes?? i didnt /ubb/frown.gif /ubb/frown.gif /ubb/frown.gif /ubb/frown.gif /ubb/frown.gif!!!

[ak]

Shite in hell, i just read the Harry Knowles report, which was slightly cocked up cause he was so excited, but what he has described was simply unbelievable.
No longer will i worry about this project, and his description of the Balrog was simply unbelievable.
The CGI is meant to be absolutely astonishing, and that a cave troll or whatever it is is meant to make all the effects in the world look like shit.

My friends, if i die before i see these films, kill me.

P.S The films are coming out here in Britain a week before America, is that some record? Cause i've never heard of such an event like this coming out in Britain before America.

[This message has been edited by ak (edited 05-12-2001).]

[movieman02]

The movie is going to rock, i have no doubt, i just hope that it can live up to the book. i don't think there will be too much problem with that.

[The Heart Collector]

And the Cannes Booklet kicks ass too. Oh, this one's gonna rock.

[Scorchlord]

I fully expect this movie to be good to great. I'm not going into it with super-high expectations, though - Episode I really taught me to avoid that.

However, I don't think it's fair to use the hype argument with this as people do with Star Wars. George Lucas wrote Eppy I on his own. It was his story, all of its faults and plot holes and boring lengths that nobody cared about (and not enough Darth Maul. Yeesh.) Peter Jackson has a legitimate story to back him, that he didn't write on his own. LOTR is a phenomenal read, so deep and artistic. While Lucas had his own ideas for his movie, Jackson is merely taking a great work of literature and molding it to his own view.

[ak]

http://www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/11/990112543

This link has an excellent, very detailed, very proffessional account of what happened in the 25 minutes shown at Cannes. Whilst reading it i slowly blocked out everything that was happening around me cause it was so enthralling. I can't imagine how enthralling the films are going to be.

I sincerely believe that if these films don't actually become the greatest of all time, then they will surley become the greatest of our generation.



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[ak]

..just read some new stuff over at www.mckellen.com (http://www.mckellen.com) that the opening to the Fellowship of the Ring has been changed from a prologoue (or whatever the damn thing is called) straight to the party of Bilbo's 111th birthday.
Jackson apparenty thought that telling the audience straight away what all the ring stuff meant might have been a little confusing, so has put that in later.
Jackson is now very pleased with the new beginning, and Ian MvKellen has seen some music with a little footage and says its magnifiscent.

[ban all music]

Hey AK, I think ya forgot to let everyone know that the new TRAILER for Lord of the Rings is going to be available this Friday at Lordoftherings.net

[Tuukka]

Yeah, I'm waiting for the new trailer a lot. It's reportedly much better than the last one. Very dark and gritty. But they are still not showing any of the big money shots, which is good thing I think. After all there will be two more trailers later in the year. Never show all your cards too early.

[Tuukka]

Scorch made a good point about expecting too much. I think that all this anticipation and reading all the new scoops is half of the fun. But when the film finally arrives, I'm gonna lower my expectations a lot. If you expect a movie to be one of the greatest ever made, there is a chance that you end up disappointed no matter how good it is.

[ak]

I'm expecting a lot from these films, i want them to deliver on every level.
With films such as this i can't help but feel that no matter how you hype them, it won't effects your viewing pleasure, as, well, your expectations may never reach the amount of genius that has gone into creating what people that have seen the 25 minutes have said is absolutely amazing.
The Phantom Menace was severely over-hyped, but it didn't spoil the film for me, apart from the fact that the whole film was actually shown through pics in magazines, but, in the end, we must face up to the fact that TPM was dissapointing, not because it was over hyped. The fact that the media just showed too much of it kind of spoiled the impact for me, but it was still an ok film.

I am pleased that LOTR isn't being over exposed like TPM, as both trailers so far have basically shown the same thing, and like Tuuka so rightly pointed out, hasn't showed major "money shots".

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[Tuukka]

This is getting scary... I think that PJ is somehow connected to my mind. So far everything I have seen is 98% as I want it to be. Now I just read the news that the DVD version of the film will have re-edited, gory, R-rated battle scenes instead of the theatrical PG-13 version. Excellent. And even the PG-13 version is said to be relatively violent. I'm not a gore fan, but I think that LOTR should have violence in it, since it's such a dark and scary story with many battle sequences.

[Tuukka]

The Moria sequence showed at Cannes reportedly had a bit of head chopping with swords and arrows being shut to heads of orcs. That's the way to do it.

[Scorchlord]

Tuuka, not to mention on the DVD that they should have a great making-of featurette. They had a camera crew behind the scenes for the whole movie (hopefully the making-of will be very comprehensive).

[ak]

..the head chopping sounds really good. Good old Peter Jackson, he likes his old gore.

[Scorchlord]

At least there's a new trailer tomorrow to whet our appetites.....

[Tuukka]

Yeah, only about ten hours before I can download it. Sadly they are showing it on Real Video for the first week. This means that the picture quality will be horribly jerky, because there are so many people downloading. At worst case it will show only one frame per second. Hopefully someone will put up a link to a pirate quicktime version at AICN. It happened with the last teaser, so hopefully it will happen again. God how I hate Real Media.

Apparently there will be no big money shots on the new teaser. It's small on scale and very intimate and very dark. Tells more about the story and characters than the epicness of the films. It sounds like a good thing to do at this point of marketing. The reaction to new teaser has been very positive so far.

[ANTBond007]

Well, I saw Pearl Harbor yesterday, and I saw the new trailer. What can I say? I'm impressed. It doesn't really look like my kind of film, though, simply because I'm not a fan of the whole "swords and sorcerers" theme. If this film came out May 22, I'd definitely see "that other film" first...

However...

...I can definitely see why such people as Tuukka and ak are so excited for it. Peter Jackson has definitely given us an epic feel, and the story definitely does seem intriguing. I definitely don't think it will be the best film of our generation (and if you hope it will be, ak, you're bound to be disappointed, no matter how good it really is), but it should be entertaining.

I still think Gandalf looks too much like the typical, clichéd wizard, though /ubb/frown.gif

[Tuukka]

I'm glad you liked it, since you have never been very excited about LOTR. Personally I love it, especially after the disappointing first teaser.

Anyway I think that the new trailer will make many people interested about the film, but it won't make it a must see on their lists. New Line will release a one more trailer next september, a three minute trailer for the whole trilogy which will likely be full of big money shots. That's the one that will make it a must see. The new teaser has a very cool, dark feel to it and sophisticated visuals, but it'n not epic enough to really attract people, they are still not showing any of the big money shots.

BTW, I understand why you don't like the appearance of Gandalf. Personally I'm not worried at all. Ian McKellen is a brilliant actor and will surely make him an impressive character.

[Scorchlord]

Of course Gandalf is going to look like the typical wizard. That particular character was the mold......every other wizard book and movie out there copied their wizard from Gandalf (Fizban of Dragonlance, anyone?)

[ak]

What would really dissapoint me is if there isn't enough of Peter Jackson's trademark vision within the films. And, after seeing the new trailer i think i can safely say there is, with some beautifully distorted shots, and the use of close-ups, hinting and danger and indeed a horror aspect.
They are not going to be typical massive budget films that you might expect, they are going to be pieces of art.