What will be the next horror trend?

[The Arrow]

I hope it's back to gore flicks. Movies like Re Animator or Dawn of the dead rock my world...I think the slasher revival should be over. Lets bring in the red stuff. Where's Clive Barker????

[TheNuke]

Hehe. I don't think we will ever see those days in the near future. Part of the reason movies like Night or Dawn worked is because of the time. Movie goers were basically virgins, a gory movie was Frankenstein make-up. when Dawn came out ratings were not as heavely respected as they are now. If a movie was not rated people would still go to see it. Hell alot of the classics weren't rated. Now everything is so you basically know what your going to see. I think it will be a while beofre we see something like Daw again...But I could be wrong.

[PackBacker]

I think with the MPAA stranglehold in America , coupled with the intense scrutiny of "violence in media", we won't see a big return to gore. Of course, slasher flicks are making it through the whole "media violence warps our kids" frenzy so who knows?

I'd expect to see some of the smaller companies (Artisan) roll out some gore flicks but I just don't see it going big-time. I'm guessing we are going to run with slasher flicks a bit longer then make the transition to more veiled/psychological horror as in "Rosemary's Baby" or the original "The Haunting."

[QUENTIN]

I love Dawn of the Dead and Re-Animator was kewl. But I don't now how much I'd want a gore film revival because for every one Dawn we get 15 Lucio Fulci or Dead-Alive style movies and I HATE those.

[PackBacker]

Fulci rules! His flicks are so frickin funny to watch in a packed house. He seems to go where no other director will go (or maybe should!) and I appreciate that. I will give you that his movies aren't outstanding works....the plots and dialogue usually suck but the gore and mayhem (and often the score) are loads of fun.

[The Arrow]

Lets not bash Fulci..."Zombie" is a great flick. What was wrong with Dead Alive...was funny bloody stuff...

[QUENTIN]

I hated Zombie, I hated Dead-Alive, I even hated The Evil Dead. I just think they all have horrible dialogue bad looking f/x, NO character or plot development, and really BAD acting. And maybe that's the point but I just never liked the genre and think the films are boring, repetitve, and stupid.

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[ToasT]

I never seen the films you have mentioned, and honestly don't want to see the gory stuff I ain't into that. I like scary stuff.

[kerryanne]

Remember when you were a kid-- 8 or 10 and sneaking downstairs to watch a movie that you were not allowed to watch (for me it was the Exorcists)--- Remember how at that age after you watched that movie ,no matter how hard you tried to convince yourself that there was nothing under your bed, you were still afraid to get out of it. Fear, that whatever was down there was going to pull you under, and your parents would never hear you scream? That IF you made it out of your bed,you still had to make the mad dash to the bathroom hoping to get the light on before something sinister and evil grabbed you in the dark. walking back down the hall and to your room there was a very good chance that what didn't drag you under the bed or grab you in the dark was waiting behind your door when you returned? That is what a scary movie has to do for me now- It has to make me feel the same way I did as a kid- and anymore they just are not doing it. Does anybody out there think this way, or is it just me?

[john1007]

Forget it the horror movie genre is dead today. All they have today is dumb horror movies like the Blair Witch Project and many others. Even back then they had stupid horror movies with no blood what so ever like the Friday the 13th movies and many others. In my opinon if the movie don't have lots of blood in it then it's not worth watching.

[QUENTIN]

John I try to stay above simple name calling on this board, I prefer well thought out argument. And I hate to be a hipocrite but you leave me no choice, you are an IDIOT.

[john1007]

yeah an idiot that knows what he is talking about. I have seen every horror movie on the planet your calling an idiot to the wrong person.

[retardinAz]

No, john, Quentin is a very respected schmoe around here. And I agree with him. He doesn't call many people names, so you must have tipped him off.

A movie isn't good without blood? That is stupid. Blood doesn't make a scary movie, fright makes a scary movie, thus the name SCARY movie not BLOODY movie.

All the old movies were stupid? I think that most people would agree with me when I say Nightmare on Elm Street, Rosemary's Baby, The Exorcist, and the Omen were classics, not just among horror movies, but among all movies.

John, nothing personal, you are an idiot.

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[john1007]

so i'm still an idiot ha i know the Omen and Rosemarys baby are classics but the Nightmare on Elm street movies aren't, and so is the Excorist that is a classic. So i goofed a little bit big deal. In my opinon the more blood the better the movie. Did you ever see Bloodsucking Freaks or the Evil Dead movies they were gore. The Friday the 13th movies, and the Halloween movies or the Nightmare on Elm street were not. I just joined this message board today, and i'm going to let you people know right now. I'm far from being an idiot when it comes to horror movies. What just joined this site is the smartest person around when it comes to horror movies. So i'm an idiot cause i have a strong opinon about something ha will see about that.

[PackBacker]

wow you really came in guns blazing there, John. Care to explain why The Blair Witch Project is a "dumb horror movie"?

[yvonne]

The Nightmare movies arent dumb.....if no one liked them they wouldnt have made a collectors edition dvd box set.....yvonne

[kerryanne]

See what horror is suppose to do is spark your inner most terror and bring it to life-It waits until the right moment to reveil it's self, and then bam...you start thinking about it... Blair Witch Project wasn't dumb because I know that at some point in time in my life, while I am out in the woods, I WILL remember that movie... Now I really seriously doubt that while i am eating a tomato, that i will worry about being killed by an attack one but hey...(sorry-- I guess that one is my guilty pleasure...)

[john1007]

Packbacker, yes i'll explain why the Blair Witch Project was a dumb movie. For starters with no blood or a killer in the movie i wouldn't even consider calling it a horror movie. Geeez when i first went to the movies to see it i had a good nap in the process. The movie wasn't even scary it's was more like a documentary not a horror movie. All through the movie from the start of the movie to the end all they had was three people running around with a camcorder. Some movie what a joke the Sixth Sense was a better movie then the Blair Witch Project.

[PackBacker]

Ah yes the time-honored thoughts that there must be buckets of blood to be a true horror film.

There did seem to be a killer in the movie as Josh went missing and various body parts turned up. Unless he was doing this to himself. Then you have the ending, which as not to spoil it for those who have not seen it, simply shows that there is some unknown force at work.

The horror comes from the unknown (rather than the usual tired, predictable slasher #5 working his way through teens only to meet a temporary end from the one intelligent teenager). Try watching Rosemary's Baby, The Haunting (1963), or something of that ilk. Those, my friend, are horror films. I'm not saying that Jason et. al. are not of the horror genre, but simply that the genre is more than splatter/slasher/gore flicks.
Psychological/supernatural films portraying the unknown without giving away the goods in a cheap special effect often work much better than finding the 37th way to use a butcher knife as a murder weapon.

Sorry to de-rail your thread Arrow, but I just had to stick up for TBWP.

[ANTBond007]

John, so if there's no blood it's not a real horror movie? Ever seen Halloween? I still can't find any blood, and that's widely considered to be up there with The Exorcist and The Shining.

Oh yeah, you've been here one day and you're already a total ass. Congratulations, you're officially fucked /ubb/biggrin.gif

[kerryanne]

Yea ANTBond007!!!! /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif

[QUENTIN]

john you are an idiot. The Blair Witch Project is a great movie, the best horror film since The Shining in my mind. You don't need blood everywhere and intestines spilling out to be a great horror movie. The Exorcist, The Shining, Halloween, Nosferatu, and yes The Blair Witch Project all have little to no blood and they are the best among horror films. retard is right you've now pissed off a lot of the wrong people on this board and as Antbond not quite so elequantly put it "now you're officially fucked".

[john1007]

ok listen people i didn't mean to make my debut here acting like a total ass. I seen all the Friday the 13th movies and Halloween movies and Nightmare on Elm street movies and they were great movies. I'm a gore fan not a horror fan which means i love the blood and gore in movies. Some of my good movies i have now tell me if you ever seen them.

1) Bloodsucking Freaks
2) the Burning Moon this one here is banned in 13 countries thank goodness the US wasn't one of them.

3) Dead Student Society
4) Snuff Kill

I can go on and on but you get the idea.

I got about 1000 horror and gory movies at my house. That's a lot of movies you know.

So i'm sorry for pissing off a lot of people that's just me you know. So why don't you forgive my stupidity alright people cause i'm sorry ok.

[QUENTIN]

Ok, I guess I'll except whatever that was... but I still think it's a stupid thing to say "the only good movies are the ones with lots of blood". And also I want to ask have you ever seen Taxi Driver, 2001, A Clockwork Orange, Pulp Fiction, Goodfellas, or Citizen Kane? Do you know of great films, see them and still prefer "gore flicks" or are you simply ignorant to anything that isn't about blood, guts, chainsaws, and tits.

[retardinAz]

I don't know what the next horror trend will be, but I think that this message board's next trend will be calling john a jackass.

[kerryanne]

Yeah Quentin--- /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif Sorry I'm just being a little b****, and I'm bored right now... So I keep checking to see how this little argument is going... Still you know Johnny they have good points... Just because you 1000 slasher videos doesn't mean that you truly understand the meaning of horror.

[kerryanne]

Yeah retardinAz... /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif /ubb/smile.gif See I need to stop this.... Naw!!!

[Mr. Meat]

Kerryanne you've been kissing a lot of ass in this topic! /ubb/wink.gif Come on guys he apologized (p.s. John man that WAS a stupid thing to say)

[john1007]

Quentin, yes i seen all those movies, and retardz i apologized for my stupity so why did you have to go and call me a jackass for. I do know the true meaning of horror hell i grew up watching it. So chill out people i said i was sorry what else do i have to do to apologize.

[QUENTIN]

I accepted (sort of) and accept (sort of) your apology. You said you'd seen all of those movies, well what did you think of them. did you think they were great ? boring? horrible? Ok but not as good as (excuse me while I laugh) Friday The 13th? you said you'd seen them do they fit on a best list somewhere, or is all you can appreciate gore flicks?

[john1007]

Mr Meat, i know it was a stupid thing to say, and i'm sorry for saying it but nobody cares. Boy it looks like after one day of sighing up to this board i piss everyone off. I'm very sorry people well i'll just leave and not come back.

[ANTBond007]

Excuse me while I laugh, but....Friday the 13th better than such "supernatural horror flicks" as The Shining and The Exorcist? Ha!!

God, if you love gore flicks Friday the 13th must be your favorite movie series. Hell, it's probably over Star Wars, The Godfather, and a bunch of "Non-sequel but cool series" films (Tarantino and Fincher come to mind).

[retardinAz]

John, I didn't call you a jackass(sort of) but I was just pointing out that in a day you've made a lot of enemies. If you keep it up, calling you a jackass WILL become a trend. If you calm down, you should be more accepted into our movie community.

[john1007]

sure i'll calm down retardz, but i did apologize but no one wants to hear it. Did you ever see any of the Sleep away Camp movies three parts was only made of that movie. I'm still awaiting a fourth sequel if it ever gets made.

This is my first time at a discussion board in the 4 months i had my computer, so i really didn't know the trend here ok guys so gimme a break ok please.

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[retardinAz]

No, I've never seen those movies. Actually, I don't really get into more obscure horror movies(except the ones I make.) I just don't really get into the more obscure movies because most of them replace fear with gallons of blood.

[kerryanne]

Mr.Meat, please do not say that I was kissing ass that is just not my style... I was merely bored and I apologize to all... /ubb/redface.gif

[john1007]

Kerryanne, no you wasn't kissing ass in here i know that. I was just acting like a jackass when i first came here, so none of it's your fault or anybody elses. It was all my fault ok.

[Mr. Meat]

Kerryanne, I was joking. I joke cause I love!

[screamer581]

Man that was fun to read!!!!!!! I saw sleepaway camp 1 and 2 , one was pure crap, but 2 was actually good!!!!!! it was more black comedy than true horror but it was still pretty cool!!!! Oh yea thank you Quentin and the other guys for sticking up for Blair witch if you guys didn't I sure would have!!!!!

''Hello I am Andy and this my post.''

[Brock Landers]

I hope your prediction here was right about horror flicks Arrow...unfortunately, except for "Blair Witch 2", I don't see it happening...I am hoping that films like "Valentine" or Rob Zombie's flick will provide the catalystforchange though...I'm beginning to think (because of posts that come in) that werebeing brainwashed by all of these films restricting gore and visually excting material...I'm not just speaking about nudity, but about the fun flicks from the past that I look back fondly on...

[AntonioDelLago]

I think the current trend in horror films, the supernatural, is here to stay. Case in point: over the past two years, the most successful films of the genre have been centered around ghostly goings-on: THE SIXTH SENSE, STIR OF ECHOES, THE GIFT, WHAT LIES BENEATH and THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT. Movies about Satanic goings-on have been average at best: END OF DAYS, THE NINTH GATE, THE OMEGA CODE, BLESS THE CHILD and LOST SOULS to name a few. The slasher revival pretty much ended with SCREAM 3 last year (I hope VALENTINE is a hit, though). HANNIBAL should be a big hit, as was AMERICAN PSYCHO last year at this time, so I'm sure there will always been room for psychological thrillers. FINAL DESTINATION and UNBREAKABLE rocked! But those movies were more about the struggle between life and death than evil spirits or the Devil. But lately, ghost stories have been the most successful, and I think they're here to stay.

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[love broker]

nice little back and forth there weren't it? but i feel the horror genre is always going to be on the fringe. alot of direct to video stuff by independent films makers, or by folks like us who just wanna see what we wanna see.

[!MorganOnyx!]

KERRYANNE -
I totally dig what you said about all that scary shit happening when you were a kid. That is exactly what i was like. I remember - (nobody else laugh) when i used to go to the toilet on my own, even in the day, if there was no-one else upstairs i would just flush the chain and slam the door and run and jump down about 10 steps and almost break my ankles, just cos i thought that the noise of the loo flushing would distract my parents and they wouldn't hear the evil things that were waiting, grab me!I had to make a quick getaway! If a movie can make me feel like this again i would love it!
On a different note - Am i the only person who thought THE RE-ANIMATOR blew?

[the night watchman]

Yes, you are. "Re-Animator" rocks.

[the night watchman]

In regards to kerryanne's comments about sneaking downstairs to watch movies you weren't supposed to, I had similar experiences around that age, too. My parents would make me go downstairs to get the laundry, and it absolutely terrified me to go down there after dark. I swear there were a couple of times I was bolting back upstairs with an arm-load full of April-fresh clothes when I thought I was just half a step ahead of feeling a cold hand fall on my shoulder. Those were the good old days.

Next horror trend I hope to see - MONSTERS! Okay, so I'm predictable.

And what is this damn beliefnet ad at the top of my screen?!