What the fuck is this (about SW Episode II)

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

I have heard from several sources (the radio, T.V., several websites) that N fucking SYNC is going to make a special guest appearance in the next movie as Jedis that are going to be killed!! What the fuck!!!!!!! Can we say, fuck. Well, that makes me want to see the movie even less than I did before now. .....what the fuck.

[Nate6]

FUCK!!! NSYNC?!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

Those no-talent, machine fabricated Backstreet Boy clone "musicians" couldn't act their way out of a one-sided paper bag! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ak]

Please don't tell me you honestly believe this rubbish.
Honestly, I heard other nonsense things for Episode I - Just don't pay any attention.

[JoBlo]

I heard that Lucas' daughter is a big fan of the group and he's gonna give them CAMEOS in the background (read: extras) as a favor to her (I heard it as a rumor as well, so I'm not 100%). If we can trade them for a JAR-JAR appearance...I'd do it!!

I have to say that it is sad that the man is now casting according to the tastes of his kids...isn't that how Jar-Jar got into the first one? (his son liked him or something)

Oh well...the first trailer was still a kicker though...

[Scorchlord]

If true, it only further shows that George Lucas has no business making a movie in his century. Episode I was a big prefab commerical that was as artificial as a robotic dildo, and now we get a prefab corporate sponsored "band" of boys who sound like girls. What else can Lucas do? Maybe we can crossbreed the Ewoks and Gungans, wouldn't that be fan-fucking-tastic?

[ak]

If it's in there, I would have completely have lost all faith in Lucas as a director (not that it takes much to lose faith in him).
It just brings this kind of jokey approach to the proceedings. A serious film, with a boyband? No way. Teen films have this, not Star Wars.

This "rumour" has to be utter shit.

P.S - The fact that television stations and magazines have, so-called, brought this to our attention means nothing. If one piece of media makes up information, then another one will certainly catch hold of it and pass it on, and make even a bigger deal over it.



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[Dumb-Fokker-**]

ak, this "rumour" was confirmed by Lucasfilms, and was also confirmed by N*SYNC on TRL. What the hell?? You know what; what ever happened to the "darker" SW?? I dont care if they are in it for less than a second, the fact that he would do it at all shows that he has completely sold out and no longer has what it takes to direct a good film. SW just lost my $8.50

[Muha]

well... i hate boy bands and this pisses me off royally. i think GL is selling out now... trying to get all the Teen Beat girls to see his movie so they can see 5 hacks of musicians being Jedi Knights... talk about pathetic... well.. at least we have LOTR to look forward to.

[Horror whore]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
ak, this "rumour" was confirmed by Lucasfilms, and was also confirmed by N*SYNC on TRL. What the hell?? You know what; what ever happened to the "darker" SW?? I dont care if they are in it for less than a second, the fact that he would do it at all shows that he has completely sold out and no longer has what it takes to direct a good film. SW just lost my $8.50</font>

Dumb-Fokker-**, this is at least the third time I have heard you say that you aren't going to see Episode II in theaters. And just because NSYNC are extras in a movie doesn't mean it can't be dark...It's probably not even true!!!!!!!!

[Lazycouch]

Lucas doesn't care. He just wants to please his dumbass 12-year old daughter.

Oh well. In this day and age, you can't afford to appeal to only fanbase. You have to appeal to the teenybopper crowd to earn money, and so that's why Lucas is doing it.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Horror,.....it is true. If you have a problem with me not wanting to see SW, because it is turning into a shitty kiddy franchise, than go right ahead.

[ak]

Update Edit: - I see that Harry has put up on his site that it's official, but my brain simply cannot take it in.

I think Harry's talk-back is going to have some death-threats.
George, if you're not ex-directory, now is a good time.

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[Horror whore]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
Horror,.....it is true. If you have a problem with me not wanting to see SW, because it is turning into a shitty kiddy franchise, than go right ahead.</font>


No, it's just that your whining gets old after a while...You don't even know if it's turning into a shitty kiddy franchise because IT DOESN'T OPEN FOR FIVE MONTHS! Have you had a special screening?


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[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Ok, from what I have seen - it is turning into a shitty kiddy franchise. I have seen Episode 1, and all the trailers for Ep. 2, and I have read enough to not be excited at all about the film. If you are, thats fine. But im not, so get off of my back about it. And if you didnt want to hear me whine about this film than hy did you come in, as it is very obviously someplace for me to whine about it.

According to MTV, a few of the 'NSYNC group members will appear in "Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones."

A Lucasfilm spokesperson didn't know specifically which members have cameos in the movie. The guys will be seen for a fleeting moment in a "big scene with lots of extras."

The roles materialized after the group members, who are all fans of the sci-fi saga, asked the new film's producer, Rick McCallum, for bit parts.


There. And if it wasnt for the amount of places I have read, and seen this, than I wouldnt believe it either.

[ak]

Can I just say this, and I have always thought this: Rick McCallum is a tosser!!!.

The guy couldn't produce a wet over-coat in a rain storm.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

lol, im inclined to agree.

[Horror whore]

THIS JUST IN!!!-

"The Backstreet Gays, or Boys if you prefer, will have comeo roles in LOTR: The Two Towers. Information is very limited but we do know they will play gay hobbits on their journey to some strange land. They will only appear in the film for five seconds, but fans are already screaming.

Peter Jackson has confirmed the rumor as true "I was taking my monthly shower when I thought of an idea to get females into the audience, because the trilogy is more aimed at men. Get the Backstreet Girls!" says Jackson.

The Backstreet Boys also confirmed this on TRL today during their monthly orgy with Carson Daly. "We already filmed it and can't wait-OH CARSON YOUR SO GOOD-'til the release in December," states Nick Carter of the group." --MTV News

Oh my God the trilogy is turning into kiddy shit!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

lol,.....very funny. I know I complain about the new SWs alot, but I didnt want them to be shit. Horror, MTV is not the only source for this news. It was on VH1, and in the Suntimes paper, and I have seen it on several T.V. and radio shows. Its safe to say its true. Ahd for the record; The Backstreet Boys are not in TTT; unlike GL, PJ has respect for his fans.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Well, well, well; this just in from theforce.net

Lucasfilm confirms 'NSYNC in Episode II
Wed, Jan 02, 02 04:34:45 PM EST

Let the bloodletting begin. TFN was the first to report on this rumor on December 17th, now it is confirmed. MTV reports the following:

A few of the 'NSYNC guys will appear in "Star Wars - Episode II: Attack of the Clones," according to a spokesperson from Lucasfilm.
The spokesperson didn't know specifically which members have cameos in the movie, which will be the fifth "Star Wars" release from creator George Lucas. The guys will be seen for a fleeting moment in a "big scene with lots of extras."

The roles materialized after the group members, who are all fans of the sci-fi saga, asked the new film's producer, Rick McCallum, for bit parts.

What do you think of this? Let us know! Post your thoughts in the forum for Lucasfilm to read. Thanks to Jay for the alert!

See, ak. This just goes to show that everyone should believe everything they hear on T.V. and from the radio.

[herculeez]

Well fuck me.
If this proves to be true and Nsync will be in Episode II, i will enjoy seeing the movie.
It will be a feature to mock!
I am very sceptical about the whole movie anyway, as i was about episode I.
This will go pear shaped, and Mr.Lucas will regret even allowing these Nsync boys on the set to add to the insult of teh movie, for ever more.

[ak]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
See, ak. This just goes to show that everyone should believe everything they hear on T.V. and from the radio.</font>


Everything? Nope. If I believed everything I hear on these abusive t.v shows and magazines, i'd own a million danbury mint "exclusive" limited edition gold-plated dishes, and live somewhere in Mallorca soaking up the sun, with two perfect children, a blonde wife and a well groomed dog.

On a serious note, I think some people just aren't remembering the really pathetic stories that came out about Episode I.
It's better to be cautious with the media. Never believe a word they say until the event has happened.
Honestly, how could you say believe "everything". That's a very laughable comment. Tell you what, go and study media for a few years, and get back to me then. If you think the same way, i'd pay you a good sum of money.

Fokker - Even you should remember the absurd rumours that Sam was going to be a girl in LOTR. Hahah.



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[Dumb-Fokker-**]

I was just kidding ak. lol I gotta start using those smily face thingies,.....wait, I gotta learn how to first. Anyways, yeah I remember the Samantha rumour. lol

[ak]

That explains it then.....good. Although, I have heard people say things like that, and mean it for real. George Bush eh? What a tosser.

[Kavan]

Really if the worst part of the movie is the dumb NSYNCH cameo that would probably be ideal. After Episode 1 I'm more afraid to see what Lucas construes as a love story or a darker story.

Episode 1 was a kiddie flick/merchandising ad/I love special effects dressed up as a film. If the worst part of Episode 2 is the dumb boy band then I'll be relieved. But it still sucks and shows Lucas is losing it.

What I'm looking foreward to is the group of giggling teenage girls that will totally annoy the SF fans by screaming "OMG! It's LANCE!!!!" That may actually be the highlight of the movie.

[Cyclonus]

No, no... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

I imagine the men in white coats are hot on his trail as we speak.

[Common Sense Man]

DF! Rock on my man stick to your guns.

I like or should I say love Star Wars but from what I have seen of EPII plus EPI I have a very bad feeling.

Now throw POP culture into a mythical sci-fi flick! No way!

Thank the maker that PJ is here with LOTR to take over the mantle or epic film maker.

I can already see LOTR becoming the modern day Star Wars as the current Star Wars episodes are being run into the ground.

Will I see EPII of course, will I hang my head in shame as I leave the theater, I am beginning to think I will.

I used to like the fact that I was a known Star Wars fan but I may have to sever ties as the series is becoming an embarrassment.

Go PJ! Go PJ! it's your Birthday!

Out.......

[The Rob]

Star Wars is dead to me!
Let's rally up and break George's legs.

[Moviefreek]

I do not think this is a rumor, i am sorry to say, it makes me not even want to see this film. The even announced it on MTV that n'sync will appear in the film. What is the world coming too? n'sync in star wars? good lord. Its enought to make stars wars n'stink.

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[mattjk_17]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Rob:
Let's rally up and break George's legs.</font>

I second that!

[Scorchlord]

Well, that's it. I'm definitely waiting for the video of this soon-to-be shitfest to come out.

George Lucas, you may once have had some talent, but it's gone now, you goddam hack.

[jackson13]

1st off I want to apologize for starting a topic about this in the General Forum. I didn't even bother to check if it was already being talked about. Sorry. 2nd, I want to say that, while im not even a little bit of a SW fan, im still pissed about this decision. SW A New Hope redefined the term "sci-fi geek" and will always be known as one of "the greatest films of all time". But George Lucas has officially gone overboard. This man used to be a respected director and his films were awed by critics and mesmerized fans. Now, it's officially gone to shit. It started with Jar-Jar and now it's multiplied from one annoying, no-talent hack into 5 annoying no-talent hacks who don't deserve to be in any film period. I noticed that many have said George is doing it for his daughter, but once he loses his dignity and the respect of his fans, he might actually realize that you don't listen to 12 year olds who have "crushes" on boys they'll never have. There's really nothing we can do about this anyways, except sit here and whine like it's gonna change something. Well, we could boycott the movie, but we all know that's not gonna happen. So, let the whining continue!!!!!!

[ColonelColinCaine]

I agree that Mr. Lucas is a fucking idiot, but you guys need to look on the bright side of this.
We're going to see N'Sync DIE in Episode 2!
If that doesn't get millions of SW fans into theaters, I don't know what will. Hell, if 'ol George throws in a shot of their charred remains, I might go see it a second time.
You know what? I take my first comment back. Lucas is fucking brilliant! This should be the best movie of 2002 for that scene alone!

[mattjk_17]

Good point there ColonelColinCaine, if he (Lucas) were to add some gore to their deaths, then maybe I would see it... nope, he won't do that and we all know it, dammit George why must you put them assholes in this movie?

Mr. Lucas, you have officially made yourself a possible target of newgrounds.com! (Well I can hope can't I?)

[Exxon_valdez]

Star Wars use to be more than just gimmicks & special guest stars. In all my days i would have never believed that Lucas would cast any body (much less than those NSYNC fags) into their movie, even if it is for a few seconds of film footage! They have sold out the "once great heritage of just relying on good scripts and good special effects" in order to win over the a few movie theater seats to NSYNC addicted fans. No this isn't another hoax, this is real frickin crap that MTV is more than willing to throw at us on TRL. In perspective, Lucas is doing whan the "growing pains" tv show did when they added Leonardo deCaprio (however you spell that fags name) to their storyline,... they are simply trying to brighten up what must be a pretty crappy movie.. Its sad, but after watching the first movie, it isn't that hard for me to relize. I can only wish that the fates of NSYNC could be switched around with those of the late Ailiyah, such that star wars 2 could be without NSYNC fags and we could be watching Matrix 2 this sooner http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[daddiefatsacks]

Who really gives a shit is N SYNC is in this movie for 5 seconds? and you know what, I really don't give a shit - in fact, I think it's great that they get slaughtered, so all the little teeny bop girls can see them get their asses hacked by some stormtrooper/boba fett/emperor baddie.

You all need to LIGHTEN up.

[Narrator]

id hav 2 agree daddiefatsacks

[daddiefatsacks]

Also, everyone criticizing George Lucas for selling out, and getting into the 'pop-culture' swing of things so he can get some extra coin is bullshit.

When the casting for Anakin went on, everyone was like "James Van Der Beek!" "Joshua Jackson!" "Ryan Philippe", but you know what, Lucas didn't 'sell out' and go with a big hearttrhob, instead he went with a virtual unknown in Hayden Christiansen

just thought I'd add that into my rant against everyone complaining.

[APzombie]

I can understand Warrick Davis getting a cameo in Episode 1 cause he was a ewok in return of the jedi and a friend of Lucas, but i will not believe this...

[LordKaruku]

It isn't the fact of their onscreen presence that worries me. We're most likely not even going to notice them. It's the spirit of the thing. Like someone said earlier, how stupid would it have been if some '80s group had been in Empire, even if only in the background? Star Wars used to be something that Lucas took semi-seriously, at least to the extent that it was a modern myth. It's not appropriate in that context to inject cameos and things from our world into it. For the record, this applies to the E.T.'s and 2001 space pod in Phantom Menace as well. Not to mention the Battle Droids. Explain to me why the Trade Federation would built soldier robots that made funny comments... The original trilogy may have been for kids, but at least it was internally consistent.

I'll still see Episode Two in theaters--this N'Sync thing, as dumb as it is, should really have no influence on anyone's decision to do so--but I would go see a two-hour ILM demo reel in theatres as well, so take from that what you will.

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[ColinM]

I'm a complete Star Wars geek, so I'll be seeing this movie in theaters no matter what. As long as the N'Sync guys really are just in the background, I'll be alright. I'd rather them not be there at all, of course, but what are ya gonna do?

[ak]

Well, this is amazing. I've been checking this poll at Movieheadlines.net for the past week, asking what film people are most looking forward to. Attack Of The Clones was in the lead, with The Two Towers just behind, but now that this dreadful SW info has been released, just look at the results:

22.77% for SW: II

67.16% for TTT

UPDATED INFORMATION: Well, actually, the real reason the poll went so high for The Two Towers, is because someone posted on Theonering.net that it wasn't recieving too many votes:

"JJG alerts us to an online poll that hasn't heard from too many Ringers yet at Movieheadlines.net. [More]...."

So, there you have it.



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[Ender]

I can't believe you're all taking this seriously. Hasn't anyone learned by now the kind of crap that gets passed off as "studio rumors"? Remember a few weeks ago when someone posted that Michael Jackon was going to be playing Edgar Allen Poe in a movie? Most anything these days can get pawned off on us as "official news", and honestly, you've all got to start being a little more skeptical with this sort of crap.

Bottom line, this rumor is bullshit, no two ways about it.

[jackson13]

So the fact that CNN, MTV, THEFORCE.net and about every other fucking movie site has confirmed it makes it bullshit? Im lost.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Yes, I hate to admit it, but this is not a rumour. And ak, about that poll - TheForce.net had the same thing posted at ther site ("Go and cast your vote!!"). Anyways, just thought I would get that out. Now, onto this bullshit. I know I may sound like a whiner, but think about it - a director of a beloved franchise puts in a VERY CHEAP advertising tool, to appeal his movie to a wider demographic, and make more money. Anyone who says that he is doing for something else, well, their only half right. His daughter did ask him, but im sure he was more keen on the idea than she was. And as for their "supposed" 2 second scene - I dont think GL would cast the most famous boy band in the world, and put them in a blurry, quick shot. hell,...I know they are gonna have their own AotC action-figures. .....oh well. I havent been excited about this movie since the HORRIBLE dialouge from the trailers - the special-effects looked sweet though.

[waynesmale]

Look who gives a shit if they are in Episode 2 all that matters is that the story is done well and todl the right way , Unlike most people i have stuck by Lucas even if i thought Episode 1 was a let down but most people like you guys have turned your back on the great Lucas so why should any of you care.Even if this crap group is in it i will stick by Lucas unlike you arseholes who hate the guy cause he made a few mistakes with Episode 1 so just back off and lets see if the Movie turns out good

[Ender]

waynesmale-Did you read the rules before you signed up? Because you just violated the biggest one.

Anyway, back to the movie. I don't believe it, but it's true. The group will appear in the movie for a few seconds, and be killed by droids, but there in there just the same. Frankly, I'm not sure what to think. This is like being kicked in the crotch.'

I mean, this looked like an incredible movie. The trailer I saw last month was breathtaking. Everything was falling into place. But N'SYNC? I'll admit that the prospect of seing N'SNYC blasted to pieces always appealed to me, but good god almighty, not in a Star Wars film!

I've always been Lucas' biggest fan, but he's clearly lost his mind. My only hope is that he or one of his staff advisors will come to their senses and edit these few seconds from the finished product. Otherwise...well...I don't know what's goin to happen here...I'm so confused...

[Ender]

I am still going to see it. Hopefully, it will be good despite. I do still have high hopes for CLONES.

But even it's a fantastic movie, this will still taint it in my eyes. There are some things I just can't get my mind around, and this is one of them.

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[dicaprio_travolta_man]

You guy's are all complaining about this, why?? I am a HUGE Star Wars freak and support anything that George Lucas does. But to make things interesting here let's reverse it, let's say Peter Jackson confirmed that NSYNC would be playing Elves in Two Towers, and have 5 to 10 minute cameo's in that film. Would all of you still be complaining or would your complete dedication to Jackson make you not care??? That's the way it is for Star Wars freaks they don't care who's in the movie they will see it anyways.... I personaly don't care because their only in there for about 2 minutes, hardly enough to ruin the whole movie....

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

You guy's are all complaining about this, why?? I am a HUGE Star Wars freak and support anything that George Lucas does. But to make things interesting here let's reverse it, let's say Peter Jackson confirmed that NSYNC would be playing Elves in Two Towers, and have 5 to 10 minute cameo's in that film. Would all of you still be complaining or would your complete dedication to Jackson make you not care??? That's the way it is for Star Wars freaks they don't care who's in the movie they will see it anyways.... I personaly don't care because their only in there for about 2 minutes, hardly enough to ruin the whole movie....

P.S. Sorry about the double post, my computer is fucked up this morning, and dosen't listen to a damn word I say http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

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[Ender]

Well DTM, I'm a huge Star Wars freak too, and this really gets to me. I know all of the arguments here. Yes, they're just extras, yes, they're on screen for less than 5 seconds, yes, they are killed onscreen, all of those things are great arguments and I'm endlessly grateful for each of them, but it's still the principle of the thing, you know what I mean?

[Scorchlord]

Here's the thing, though: Peter Jackson would NEVER do something as stupid as that for a mere marketing ploy. he respects the material too much.

And if he did, I would be even more pissed than I am about Ep. II. I know that George Lucas has lost his integrity after that debacle feature length commercial that was Episode I, and I had rather low expectations for this movie too (the dialogue and acting look wooden and out of place). Add in the fact that he's selling out to some no talent hacks and letting a prefab boy band in what should be a relatively serious movie, and we've got ourselves something to be upset about.

[cutman]

Why do people seem to think that Lord of the Rings fans worship Peter Jackson? I don't care who the hell directed the movie as long as he did a good job, and Peter Jackson did a great job, thus I respect him. It's Lord of the Rings that we love, which is why we are grateful to PJ for making such a good movie.

And to answer you question, DTF, if PJ put NSynch in Two Towers even for a few seconds (a 5-10 minute cameo...don't know where you got that) I would be pissed as hell because that would seriously disrespect the subject matter. Star Wars is Lucas' baby...he can do what he wants to it. Peter Jackson did not write LotR, which means that he has no right to disprect it by including the boy band.

Besides, LotR needs only one elven maiden, and that is Liv Tyler.

To me, Star Wars is a joke now. Although the special effects look awesome, the dialogue and acting look laughable, and now NSynch is in it. However, I will still see Episode II. I just won't see it again...and again...and again (unless it's good).

cutman

[Zed]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by cutman:
Besides, LotR needs only one elven maiden, and that is Liv Tyler.

cutman</font>

Just a couple things:

1-Lord of the Rings does have another babe (even when she is not an elf). She's Eowyn (played by Miranda Otto) who will have an important rol in next two films (mostly in The Return of the King).

2-I look this news from the possitive side. Mayne Can'N't SYNC will be blasted to dead for a Sith. That might be a good part.

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[BarkingSparrow]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dicaprio_travolta_man:
[B]You guy's are all complaining about this, why?? I am a HUGE Star Wars freak and support anything that George Lucas does. But to make things interesting here let's reverse it, let's say Peter Jackson confirmed that NSYNC would be playing Elves in Two Towers, and have 5 to 10 minute cameo's in that film. Would all of you still be complaining or would your complete dedication to Jackson make you not care??? That's the way it is for Star Wars freaks they don't care who's in the movie they will see it anyways.... I personaly don't care because their only in there for about 2 minutes, hardly enough to ruin the whole movie....
PB]</font>

I wouldn't mind NSYNC being in LOTR if it was a cameo role as orcs and we got to see Aragorn decapitate them all.

[Seph]

wow, folks are heated about this one.... to me, eh? Who cares?

no wait, you know what, I do care. I care becuz it will ruin the scene, becuz when it hits the screen a hundred fanboys are gonna groan and boo and pop open their mock-sabers becuz they're taking this to heart. Relax... Disrespecting the source material? It's STAR WARS? Comparing it to LOTR, a work of literature, is absurd. I like Star Wars as much as the next NORMAL fan, but really, it's always been a "kiddie" franchise, that's why most of you like it now, cuz you liked it as KIDS. Makes sense doesn't it?

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[Dumb-Fokker-**]

I could care less if they are on-screen for a millisecond - like Ender said, its the principle of the matter. Lucas is going to use this as an advantage to appeal to a wider demographic, and because his daughter asked him to do it. If his daughter asked him to jump off a fucking bridge, would he do it?? Hell no he wouldnt, he still has another SW movie to fuck up. One on the members of N*SYNC said that the members of the group who did not appear in this film, will appear in the second film. Now, lets add up all my gripes about this movie.

1.) It has the same screenwriter as "The Scorpion King".

2.) Jar Jar Binks (and hopefully you all remember what Ryan Phillipe told E! about this fin-loving character, and Georges plans for him).

3.) The dialouge is just plain shit.

4.) Ditto for the acting.

5.) This N*SYNC bullshit.

.........thats about it. Unless I find some more.

[APzombie]

i have a feeling that this movie will be a giant discrase. Just imagine those flirty little fin lickin seagul swingin guys in "Jedi" uniforms... staring into the camera with a little smerk and their bleach blonde hair... Time to get out the wacking stick and stop these losers from ruining what is probobly already going to be a flock.

[mattjk_17]

Just a thought here, but what if they turned Jar Jar into a villain and then he is responsible for the deaths of N'Shit? That would make a lot of people happy, and then maybe get some people to respect Jar Jar for being a badass... nah, not gonna happen, but we can always hope, right? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Darth Vader]

I believe that this is by far the worst idea I have ever heard. But, if they get killed, that would be cool I suppose. Either way, I'll probably see the movie opening day several times in theaters.

[jackson13]

Yeah, the only good thing to come of this will be watching them die. Hopefully, horrible, painful deaths. Like beheading with litesabers or jabba the hut having an afternoon lunch. Plus, once they die, it might be cool to see all the girlies in the theater who payed just to see them cry their little eyes out cause their favorite boy band just bit the big one. Hell, I might just go to watch that.

[ak]

New pics released here from the film, this one of Christopher Lee's Count Dookku, which I have spruced up on photoshop, cause the quality wasn't so good.

He's got two lightsabres - His own, and Anakin's me thinks....

http://members.tripod.co.uk/mic88/Adok.jpg

There's also a pic of Yoda holding his lightsabre, but that's such a rubbish quality image, there's no point putting it up here.

[Scorchlord]

I wonder how Lee can possibly pull off ultimate evil bad guy better than he did in Fellowship.

At least they got a good thesp to play the baddie.

[nb]

I'm not a very big Star Wars fan (though I liked the original ones), but I definitely look forward to seeing 'Nsyc getting killed on the big screen.

[APzombie]

here is a site with about 20 gnarley episode 2 pics- http://medlem.tripodnet.nu/teemto/tfnsucks.html

Anikin has 2 sabers at once, and nattily portman has tight cloths with a big gun...

Anyway, yeah... Nsync sucks and i hope they burn in the film...

[Scorchlord]

I don't understand the fascination with Natalie Portman. I don't think she's all that hot, and she can't act.

[Danreiter]

I have one question for all of the STAR WARS FREAKS out there? If George Lucas's movies weren't hidden behind all of the special effects and computer generated shit, would they still be as good?

I don't think they would be anything short of HORRIBLE. What do you all think?

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Yes, these Episodes would be complete shit, but so would all of them. The only thing Lucas can direct is a blue-screen; just look at his actors. They do shitty jobs with their characters because he doesnt direct them, or give them something to work with. And I dont understand why people think Natalie Portman is so hot either. AND, I highly doubt N*SYNC will be killed in some horrible way. GL wouldnt think of doing something like that - he wouldnt want to mak his daughter mad.

[RicochetShaw]

Can anyone give me a direct link to where this is confirmed, please? When I tell my friends they're not going to believe it, so I need some proof. Any help would be much appreciated.

[ak]

Is this a trend now? Fighting with two lightsabres, I mean.
It might actually be very exciting to watch, but I don't quite know the reasoning yet.

By the way, judging from those images, the droids went from CGI to men in suits pretty quick.

[This message has been edited by ak (edited 01-05-2002).]

[nb]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scorchlord:
I don't understand the fascination with Natalie Portman. I don't think she's all that hot, and she can't act.</font>

It's quite simple. She was in Leon. She was in Leon. She was in Leon.

That's exactely the only reason why I stick to her despite the fact that she hasn't really done much wothwhile ever since.

(I do admit that my patience is running out. But I'm willing to wait for her first few post-Star Wars film to decide whether she's beyond rescue or not. I don't really have much hope for her character in SW)

[Common Sense Man]

Okay! I am going to try this again, I had a great post all prepared then my computer glitched and I had to reboot! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif

And let me just tell you it was Brilliant!

Anyway! I need a question answered about EPII and I am a little embarrassed because I am a Star Wars fan myself but here goes.

What is up with Christopher Lee's Count Doody or whatever he is called? Is he the new Sith, the replacement Darth Maul?

The reason I think this is because in EPI they said there are only two a Master and an apprentice. I took this to mean only two Sith at a time ever, am I wrong in this.

OR where they saying there are always two Sith together at all times, One Master and One apprentice? That seems more logical but for some reason I was thinking it was the other way around.

So when I heard that Christopher was playing the new evil doer I was like, What, what, what! He's to damn old to be an apprentice to the Emperor, ahem excuse me Senator.

So enlighten me, because if he is the apprentice, its Crap!

Either way I think I am going to find it hard to buy a 70 year old guy as a threat to a 19 year old. Yes I know Dooky may be more experienced in the force than Anny.

But can you imagine the fight scenes! I was expecting more quick action, something to top EPI not a geriatric in a walker.

I can see it now in my mind, and I can hear the soon to be famous tag lines Count Dooky will spout to Anny.

"Don't make me get out of my recliner you young rascal."

And the instantly famous,

"I need my depends changed."

Do you think that Anny would be able to control his mind easier as he may have Alzheimer's?

And I think I may have a problem with the two light saber thing. I mean it is new for the Star Wars series but every fan made movie under the sun has done this already.

Will this be the first case of a fan movie ruining the real thing? I have a feeling it will lessen the effect for me as I will be thinking, hey this has been over done.

And have you noticed the lack of hype, the movie is only four months away and almost nothing.

When EPI came out it was mayhem already.

Hopefully Lucas will notice this and decide to actually attempt to make a better movie and Direct the actors not just the effects.

We shall see.

Out......

[ak]

There is only ever a master and an apprentice.

I'm a little confused about the whole Count Dooku thing too. He's definately a Sith cause his "aka" name is Darth Tyrannus.

Perhaps Palpatine was down his local pub one evening and saw Dooku.

"Hey there, I'm about to take over the galaxy, and I need a hand. Would you like to help me"?

"I'd love to, what time do I start"?

Seriously though, I have no idea...........



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[The Heart Collector]

Oh, come on! NSYNC is gonna be in it so the movie must be immediately bad and Lucas is a stupid son of a bitch because of this?????


It's only a cameo, for fuck's sake.

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Alot of people arent mad about the cameo,...more about the principle behind the whole thing. I think it is pretty ridiculous. And if that isnt enough, just listen to the dialouge on the trailer. ....oh well, at least we have the original trilogy,...or should I say; Empire Strikes Back.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

Dumb-Fokker, how can you judge a movie you haven't seen???? Look, maybe the dialoge sounds bad in the trailer but remember it's only the trailer not the final film. Things are just thrown together to make a trailer, it's not what the final movie is. The dialoge can't be called shit yet because NONE of you have heard the FINAL dialoge. In LOTR the dialoge for the trailer sucked, it sounded bad, and Wood sounded horrible saying "Do they Gandalph?", but as you see that changed in the final film. Actor's do some of their lines for the trailers, then when the actuall film starts shooting they do better with their lines. Remember you've only seen one teaser and one trailer for Ep.2, and things could have changed since then. And whats the problem with NSYNC? I think we should be happy about Lucas's choice because we get to see the 5 flaming faggots DIE!! It don't get no better then that..

P.S. DF don't take what I wrote to heart, I'm not bashing your opinion just simply disagreeing with it, and I meant no disrespect towards you.

[Common Sense Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ak:
There is only ever a master and an apprentice.
</font>

Thanks AK I thought I had it right, I mean it is not that hard of a concept.

I guess I could do some data mining in the Internet and find out what the scoop is but honestly I am not that motivated to.

I guess I will just have to wait and see what role Darth Triceratopsis plays when the movie finally comes out.

Out.....

[Scorchlord]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dicaprio_travolta_man:
Dumb-Fokker, how can you judge a movie you haven't seen???? Look, maybe the dialoge sounds bad in the trailer but remember it's only the trailer not the final film. Things are just thrown together to make a trailer, it's not what the final movie is. The dialoge can't be called shit yet because NONE of you have heard the FINAL dialoge. In LOTR the dialoge for the trailer sucked, it sounded bad, and Wood sounded horrible saying "Do they Gandalph?", but as you see that changed in the final film. Actor's do some of their lines for the trailers, then when the actuall film starts shooting they do better with their lines. Remember you've only seen one teaser and one trailer for Ep.2, and things could have changed since then.

</font>


The dialogue in the teasers sounded exactly like the dialogue in Episode I, which is unquestionably the worst-written movie I've ever seen. The lines are wooden and are as unconvincing as any lines in a film I have ever heard. The fact that Lucas made Episode I like he did, and now has shown similar elements in the teasers for Episode II provides more than enough evidence to assume the dialogue in this film will be bad.

[Commando Spidey]

I think N*Sync should do a song with the Cantina Band !

I'm joking by the way.

[Irene Manor]

I'm mad because LUCAS finally confirmed that Episode 2 is not intended for my demographic. Thanks, Mister Beard!

[Common Sense Man]

Ya know the whole demographic thing is bullshit!

Star Wars reached everyone, kids to old geezers.

And think Georgie, you have a HUGE franchise, you do not have to worry about people not wanting to see it, or not knowing that it is in the theaters.

I will admit now that I am older I wouldn't mind a more mature version but I would be fine with a version similar to Star Wars or Empire.

They where great and a good story with characters you care about always outweighs graphic violence or language or any of the other things normally associated with more mature movies.

I assume by your statement you mean he is targeting pre-teens? Especially with the whole nsync crap.

Just make a good movie and the people will come. The way he is going people will soon start to shy away from anything labeled Star Wars.

Out.......

[This message has been edited by Common Sense Man (edited 01-07-2002).]

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

We`ll see, DCT. I am going to be right, and the dialouge, and the movie is going to be just as bad, if only a little better or worse, than TPM. A ton of people judge movies from their trailers,...thats what the trailers are there for. And, I highly doubt Lucas is gonna do much better with his dialuge; he has more important things to worry about - like his shitty action-sequences that are completely CGI.

[ColinM]

Dumb-Fokker, I think you're a good and wise movie-fan, but I agree that you need to give Episode II more of a chance. You seem to hate it already. I remember once that kici (sp?) mentioned not liking LOTR, and you pointed out that she made up her mind about that movie before even seeing it.

You seem to be doing the same thing about Episode II.

[This message has been edited by ColinM (edited 01-07-2002).]

[ParileseMonster]

I know Im not going to see this piece of crappy sappy shit!!!!!

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Well thank you for the comment - I really did appreciate it. I already responded to this in the Line-Up thread, so check that out to see my reasonings. And you know what I noticed; we both post the same message (as in OUR message) in multiple threads alot. .....this thread kinda made me relaize it. ........um, yeah.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
We`ll see, DCT. I am going to be right, and the dialouge, and the movie is going to be just as bad, if only a little better or worse, than TPM. A ton of people judge movies from their trailers,...thats what the trailers are there for. And, I highly doubt Lucas is gonna do much better with his dialuge; he has more important things to worry about - like his shitty action-sequences that are completely CGI. </font>

Maybe you're right, and I'm wrong or maybe I'm right and you're wrong http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif, we'll just have to wait and see, but it is 4 and a half months untill release so I am certain that the movie will have some changes, even in the dialoge. And as for your statement about the Special Effects alls I can say is that LOTR is the same damn way. NONE of the battle scenes are real and they all use CGI. Don't forget that PJ used CGI in FOTR and I'm sure he used it in TTT, and TROTK as well, and don't be confused my wise friend because not all the scenes in LOTR were as real as they look. I could point at least 15 times that PJ used a blue-screen.

[Irene Manor]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Common Sense Man:
Ya know the whole demographic thing is bullshit!

Star Wars reached everyone, kids to old geezers.

And think Georgie, you have a HUGE franchise, you do not have to worry about people not wanting to see it, or not knowing that it is in the theaters.

I will admit now that I am older I wouldn't mind a more mature version but I would be fine with a version similar to Star Wars or Empire.

They where great and a good story with characters you care about always outweighs graphic violence or language or any of the other things normally associated with more mature movies.

I assume by your statement you mean he is targeting pre-teens? Especially with the whole nsync crap.

Just make a good movie and the people will come. The way he is going people will soon start to shy away from anything labeled Star Wars.

Out.......

[This message has been edited by Common Sense Man (edited 01-07-2002).]</font>


Lucas is obviously trying to reach a demographic. My guess is that he is trying to appeal to pre-teens because that is the demographic that is least likely to have big fans.

I just think that sucks. It's not in the spirit of the original ones were it seemed like he was just trying to make a really cool space movie.

He's gone from master artist to master buisnessman.

I'll still see the movie.

[dicaprio_travolta_man]

That's one of my problems with some of the big directer's of today. They go from "Genius of their time" to "Genius with big EGO". Some have major hits early in their career so that automaticly makes them "god" in their eyes, I think the filmmakers get this big EGO, and they all of a sudden say "I'm the best, I'm the man behind ________ (fill in the blank with whomever you want) so everyone has to see my movies, no matter what" I'm not saying that this has happened to George Lucas, I'm just saying that SOME directers feel that they can do whatever they want whenever they want to do it because they have made a blockbuster trilogy. What do you guys think???

[ColinM]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dumb-Fokker-**:
Well thank you for the comment - I really did appreciate it. I already responded to this in the Line-Up thread, so check that out to see my reasonings. And you know what I noticed; we both post the same message (as in OUR message) in multiple threads alot. .....this thread kinda made me relaize it. ........um, yeah.</font>

Yeah, I'll try to clean up my act. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Actually DCT, the fight scenes were NOT only CGI. In fact, the only two things in direct CGI battle were the Troll, and the Balrog. Oh yeah, and the big battle at the beggining. Everything else is someone in a costume, and damn good costumes, at that.

[Kavan]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Danreiter:
I have one question for all of the STAR WARS FREAKS out there? If George Lucas's movies weren't hidden behind all of the special effects and computer generated shit, would they still be as good?

I don't think they would be anything short of HORRIBLE. What do you all think?</font>

Well Episode 1 had the most special effects yet and I found it positively dreadful and I'm a huge fan of the first 3 films.

I think what New Hope, ROTJ, TESB had was a sense of adventure and friendship plus fun. Episode 1 replaced that with too much CGI and little to no character development.

I think if Lucas churns out another CGI commerical his reputation will suffer some major damage.

[Zed]

I heard a phrase very funny that I want to share with you.

A friend told me:

"I think George Lucas has lost his talent. In the Episode II trailer when all the Jedi Knight's appers with their light sabers (from the classic blue until pink and purple) instead of looking like a mightly battle, it seems like a Rave Party."

[g05]

i don't mind if nsync are cast as jedi extras as long as they cast the village people as new sith lords.

g.

[Stefan]

Come on people it's not like N'Sync has a big part or is acting. They are in there for a few seconds! I am not a big N'Sync fan and don't mind if they are in there for a few seconds. Look on the bright side. We get to see them killed! I want to see the band member with red hair or what color his hair is this week. He always did make me laugh. Hopefully when N'Sync gets killed they scream pathetically or like wussies. That is what I am looking forward too. Stefan's out.

[Horror whore]

Is it just me, or does anyone notice that the die-hard LOTR fans all seem to hate Star Wars and not even try to give Episode II a chance??? Maybe it's just me....

[Dumb-Fokker-**]

Or MAYBE, the "die-hard" Lord of the Rings fans, also like Star Wars, and dont want Lucas to fuck it up anymore than he already is. Just a thought.

[ak]

I believe that The Empire Strikes Back is the greatest film ever made, and I also have a fond interest in LOTR.
I'm not a pathetic geek to either, I have a lot of objectivity when it comes to them. It seems the geek types just cannot handle the fact that one may be better than the other. (This comment is aimed toward major geeks, btw).

Episode I was a bad film, Episode II looks good at best (from what we've seen so far).

[Common Sense Man]

A must see!

Is this the future of Star Wars!

Click the link then check out the SNL skit.

http://www.theforce.net/episode2/index.html#13844

Out............

[ColinM]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Horror whore:
Is it just me, or does anyone notice that the die-hard LOTR fans all seem to hate Star Wars and not even try to give Episode II a chance??? Maybe it's just me....</font>

I agree! I think the die-hard LOTR fans are really hoping that the new Star Wars movies will fail, and are looking for any reason to condemn it before it even comes out.

My humble opinion, of course.

[Jo-Jo]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zed:
"I think George Lucas has lost his talent. In the Episode II trailer when all the Jedi Knight's appers with their light sabers (from the classic blue until pink and purple) instead of looking like a mightly battle, it seems like a Rave Party." </font>

It's so TRUE! I laughed my ass off for 10 minutes after I read this. What the fuck happened to the classic lightsabre colours??

I'll watch Episode II, on Morpheus!