Where are the kool killers at????

[The Arrow]

Am I the only one that noticed that the recent horror killers are not as hip as the 80's one.

In the 80's the focus was on the bad guys and the teens were just there to get killed. PinHead, Chucky, Freddy, Jason, Michael...all kool killers with strong distinct presences.

Today it's the opposite the focus is on the teens and the killers take a back seat. If you really think about it, Ghostface is pretty lame compared to Michael Myers or Jason. The winter coat wearing dumbarse in Urban Legend couldn't scare my grandma. Was that a fencing mask I saw in Urban Legends...who cares. What they wear is not really important but what they communicate to us is. I don't get much out of the recent killers. They're just people in suits until the final revealing monologue.

Can't we have our cake and eat it too? How about kool teens and a developped killer?
In this lifetime...please!!!

[Hans, wihout Franz]

Hannibal Lecter in SOTL, and to a lesser degree Hannibal was cool. The killer in the low-buget New Zeland import The Ugly was even better developed. Even if the movie is kinda a SOTL ripp-off but the whole movie phocused on the killer. Patric Bateman was cool. The killer from Valentine had a awsome mask. Most horror movies nowadays focus more on the characters than the actual killers, sometimes its a plus, sometimes not. More than often I think it shold be a plus but it isn't.

[Femme_Fatale]

Ive thought this too, with all this 'post-modernism' and new found feminism the movies do seem to have lost the killer edge- maybe this is just a new direction in horror, with the focus off the killer and onto the victims- remember you still got Jason X to look forward to, hes never gonna change!!

[fllatt]

I thought the mask in Valentine was cool too. And your right femme, I can't wait for Jason ><

[The Arrow]

I'm talking more than a mask, Im talking about personnality, identity, presence. The old killers were somebody.

Today all they do is wear the costume.

Yes we've got exceptions like Patrick Bateman and Jason X (even though he's an 80's killer in a 01 film)

But I'd like to see some new ones.

[Dehydrator]

I think it's going to be pretty hard to establish new cool killers. Remember how Craven bombed with "Shocker"? I think that would happen if somebody tried to make a new killer today.

I really wouldn't want Patrick Bateman to become a series charakter like Myers or Krueger. In my opinion, the "kool killers" are unfortunately dead. I'm happy that there are any killer-movies at all.

But it ain't all new that the killer isn't the focus of a movie : Take "Friday the 13th - the New Blood". There is more of this telepathic girl in the plot than of Jason. Take "Haloween 5" . Most of it is about Jamie, not about Michael Myers himself.

I would be happy if there was another cool killer, but I've got not much hope...

[Hypnotic Eye]

I too thought the valentine mask was pretty cool...

[zombiejazon]

i hate neeeew killers. they suuuuuck

[the-burn-out]

I didn't think ghostface was lame and the valentine mask was cool dammit. As far as personality... huh? These killers are all basically mimes, with the exception of krueger who kicks ass.

[countchocula]

The Creeper from Jeepers Creepers looks promising.

[This message has been edited by countchocula (edited 07-23-2001).]

[Bloodybitch13]

All the kool killers are partying at my place and the land lord's gettin mad...

[Bry Bry]

yeah, i definitely MISS the killers of old..they had awesome presence, and history..also, they looked UNIQUE and very different from each other..i think FREDDY as a villain is unbelievable...his history and looks are very INTERESTING...

i liked SCREAM, but its been done, yet so have the SLASHER type movies..whats next in line for us??what will see next??put yourself in the directors seat..it is very hard to come up with new original ideas, especially for horror movies...weve seen the ESCAPED MENTAL PATIENT,ABUSED CHILD KILLER,TOTAL MADMAN,CRAZED TEENAGER,ZOMBIE, so what else is there??not much if ya ask me..

[Antonio Del Lago]

Think of it, all of the killers during this post-SCREAM slasher revival era are so lame! Stu in the original SCREAM was a party animal and one cool dude, but as a killer? He let Sydney and Gale get the best of him? Billy Loomis, to quote the late, great Randy...was a "homo-repressed Mama's boy!". Mrs. Loomis was a Mrs. Voohrees clone, Mickey had no motive, and the Roman angle ripped off PROM NIGHT and HALLOWEEN II. The killers in I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER, its awful sequel, VALENTINE and UL2 all sucked big time!

I do have affection for the killer in the original URBAN LEGEND, though many of you will disagree.

They don't make 'em like Michael, Jason, Freddy, Pinhead and Candyman anymore!

[Oedipa M]

The main thing that hacks me off with all these new post-Scream teenybopper movies is that they got made at all! Wes Craven's initial intent with Scream was to lampoon the genre in a postmodern style so as to put it to bed already! Okay, twenty years of chasing down hapless teenagers and giving them the axe. If you're going to do something that hackneyed in this day and age, you've got to be laughing out the other side of your face about it (as in the upcoming Blood Feast 2, dir. by the one and only Herschel Gordon Lewis!) but for God's sake, don't think you're doing something new and groundbreaking that's going to scare anybody. Let's move on to a more truly psychological scariness. Scare my brain, don't just make me jump when the cat runs out from behind the refrigerator!

[cereal killer]

Dr. Giggles was a new killer but he buried the slasher genre for another couple of years.