Child's Play STILL Banned in the UK!

[Scully1888]

This is a topic that really pisses me off. Recently SKY Moviemax (a UK Satellite channel) showed Child's Play 2 and Child's Play 3 on consecutive nights. I taped them both and decided that I would buy Child's Play 1, because surely it would be buyable again (it was banned about 6 or 7 years ago because it allegedly encouraged two teenagers to throw a boy onto train tracks). No such luck.
The damn movie is STILL banned in the UK! What the fuck? Not only this, but Child's Play 2 and Child's Play 3 are also banned. Not only am I confused as to why they were allowed to show them on TV (although I'm not complaining), I want to know why the hell they can't be re-released on video or DVD. I know that it's freely available in the US, but I guess that's just the shitty UK propaganda for you, banning something because some kids say it influenced them.
Bride of Chucky is freely available, and it has, in my opinion, gorier deaths than those in Child's Play.
What are your opinions on this?

[countchocula]

That's ridiculous! They might as well ban The Sound of Music too. Child's Play is fairly watered down when it comes to violence. The ignorance of a couple of maniacal teenagers shouldn't be reason enough to keep a fine horror film off of the shelves.

[Dehydrator]

CHILD'S PLAY? Look what's banned in Germany:

OPERA
BIRD WITH CRYSTAL PLUMMAGE
SUSPIRIA
HALLOWEEN II
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE II
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE III
FRIDAY THE 13TH ( all of them! )
DEEP RED
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
DAWN OF THE DEAD
DAY OF THE DEAD
RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD
EVIL DEAD
EVIL DEAD II
BAD TASTE
DEAD ALIVE
TENEBRE
HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY
GATES OF HELL
pretty much every other Fulci Movie
A BAY OF BLOOD
THE DENTIST
BLOOD AND BLACK LACE
THE TOXIC AVENGER


Movies that are legal but cut to shit:
NOES ( all of them! )
LEPRECHAUN ( thanks )
HALLOWEEN SERIES ( even fuckin' H20 is cut to shit )
NEAR DARK ( not even a bar-scene in the legal version )
THE EXORCIST

I could go on for 10 pages! Censorship sucks!

[izombie]

LEPRECHAUN is cut....

Isn't Germany the country that gave us Nekromantik....LOL

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by izombie:
Isn't Germany the country that gave us Nekromantik....LOL[/B]</font>

Yeah, but you'll have a long time getting it. It took me 3 years. With a title like "NEKROMANTIK" I guess Buttgreit didn't even try to get an offical release here.

[Jewbo]

its not banned in the UK according the the bbfc web site.

[Jewbo]

not only is it not banned but it got a 15 certificate.

[FeydRautha]

Man, am I glad I don't live in Germany...

It was Child's Play 3 that caused all the commotion several years ago in the UK. A copy of the video was found in the home of one of the young boys who killed Jamie Bulger. I was working for the BVA (British Video Association) at the time, and my boss had to attend countless press conferences and interviews to put reiterate the responsibility of parents to oversee their kids' film viewing.

Sky MovieMax, if memory serves, broadcasts in Europe as well as the UK, so every once in a while you'd come across a gem late at night. Congrats.

[Cyclonus]

All that is so fucking stupid!

Dehydrator, ever try to smuggle in some copies of these movies?

[Jewbo]

none of the childsplays are banned in the uk anymore look on www.bbfc.com (http://www.bbfc.com)

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:

Dehydrator, ever try to smuggle in some copies of these movies?</font>

I'm busy enough smuggeling weed in, don't really have the time for movies...

Serious: It's awfully hard to get these movies here but I'm just lucky I got Bad Taste and Phenomena. Even though e-bay throws the banned ones out, I always keep the e-mail adress of the seller, so I might have a chance.

[Cyclonus]

Whoa man, you're a schmoe, so what's more important, weed or movies?

[gellar2000uk]

Actually it's not banned. It was gonna be released back in April but due to distribution right they were unable to do so, so now it's still in the air. Also, I found out that Child's Play 2 & 3 WILL be released. Date is unknown.

[mattjk_17]

I seem to remember that Child's Play was screened on Bravo a few months back in the UK, so if you try Bravo then you may have some luck in been able to watch it.

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
Whoa man, you're a schmoe, so what's more important, weed or movies?</font>

Tough Shit, but let me tell ya: I never had any bad experiences by weed. Movie wise... I just say GRIM!

[Cyclonus]

I think a viewing of "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" will help to dispel the memory of that miserable little flick. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Dehydrator]

I've just been kiddin. I mean, I love horror flicks and if I can I grap the banned ones. (The good banned ones, whoha, did I mention that MOTHER'S DAY is also banned? ) Horror and weed don't compare, exept that they're both banned here. My mistake to compare them. And I dig Texas Chainsaw Massacre 9 / 10.

I've been planning to change location for a long time and maybe it'll work next year. I hope I can get to the US so I can come back sayin' : "Hey you assholes - I've seen every Argento movie there is and there is nothing you can do about that!"

[This message has been edited by Dehydrator (edited 11-08-2001).]

[Cyclonus]

Just curious...is there a legal penalty for smuggling "forbidden" movies? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Dehydrator]

Hehehe, just curious... are you unsatisfied at your job or something? Wanna make a living by something else? Wanna become this countries main supplier on forbidden movies?

Well, I'll check that for you.

BTW: Bring SUSPERIA, OPERA & BIRD WITH CRYSTAL PLUMMAGE. Would be a good start :-)

[Cyclonus]

I don't even have a job right now.

[Scully1888]

Well, if it isn't banned by the BBFC then it certainly isn't available for purchase yet. So technically it IS banned because no UK retailers online are able to sell it yet.

[OvWrathvO]

Well, I'm thankful I live in America for one more reason.

[Dehydrator]

Hey Cyc, I checked it up and yes, banned-movie smuggeling will have the cops ( or better: the institution that deceides what's banned and not ) on your ass. It's actually the same paragraph that regards child pornography. For the cut-versions of banned movies: If you run a Video Rental and offer these on the shelves, the youth-protection ( fuck, who protects youth from them? ) will come and close your store. The only way you can have them is "under the table, on request". Note that these cut versions aren't identical to the cut-versions in other places. OPERA has a runtime of 63 minutes.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
I don't even have a job right now.</font>

Misery loves company Cyc, I'm sort of unemployed too, wasting my weeks in some school-programme for unemployed people. It sucks arse, the whole subject bores the shit out of me but it pays the orgies:-). Better days will come...

[FeydRautha]

Hope you guys get jobs soonest, good luck with hunting for one. I've been there, and it does indeed bite chunks off a log.

Speaking of banned films, "A Clockwork Orange" is banned in the UK, but I think Stanley Kubrick had something to do with that. Didn't agree to the way the BBFC wanted to edit parts of it, or something, so he had it yanked from availability (that's what I heard). Does anyone in the UK remember when the La Scala cinema in North London, out of the blue, included it in one of their all-night genre movie marathons a few years ago? I think the lawsuit nearly closed their doors forever. I remember giving money to the Save The La Scala Fund.

If you're ever in London (my hometown), check it out, it's in Islington, and the owners love the genre nearly as much as we do.

[Cyclonus]

Well, the reason ACO was pulled from release in the UK was because Kubrick was getting death threats after all the bad publicity it got. However, now that's he's dead, the film is available again.

Dehydrator, I wonder if anyone has actually tried to challenge these laws, and if so, what came of that?

As for the job thing, I hope it works out for you. Hopefully I'll be able to find work in the dorms soon, one of my best friends is an RA, and he said he'll look into it.

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
Dehydrator, I wonder if anyone has actually tried to challenge these laws, and if so, what came of that?

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I'm not an expert when it comes to that but of course, this law gets challanged. We've got a groovy Video-Distributor called ASTRO here who's doing the uncut re-releases of some movies ( Halloween 2 for example ). Their tapes are pretty much hard to find, though and not all the stuff they release is worth watching. They claim to have a legal permission for doing this because of that RE-releasing. I think it's like : Not the movies themselves are banned but the tapes on which they were originally released. These new ASTRO tapes work as "under-the-table on request", sole difference is that they are uncut. But this only works out in, maybe 4 of 16 parts of Germany. In Bavaria for example, ASTRO would get witchburned. There is no actual law I know of, that would really define that, but ASTRO are for sure on of the most watched-upon companies by the Youth-Protection. So I wonder how long they can exist. At the moment, it seems like politics don't pay that much attention to it, they've got bigger concerns ( which is good ). That's gonna change as soon as the gouverment party changes, so I guess and hope it won't happen again. it's still impossible to get BIRD WITH CRYSTAL PLUMMAGE or DAWN OF THE DEAD uncut here, if you don't have access to foregin versions.

[Cyclonus]

Is there a penalty or anything against just buying or possessing these titles?

[This message has been edited by Cyclonus (edited 11-10-2001).]

[Dehydrator]

I don't know about buying but if selling them is illegal I think buying is too.

[Cyclonus]

Okay, what about simple possession?

[Jewbo]

in england the only thing illegal is if a banned film is commercialy sold. its legal to sell from one person to another on the net or what not.

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
Okay, what about simple possession?</font>

Sorry Cyclonus, I can't find any reliable written source on that. I personally guess that simply possession will not have you much trouble but showing the movie puplicly ( I mean : You make money through the movie ) will properbly get you behind bars.

[Cyclonus]

Strange, you'd think that Germany would be the country most eager to avoid doing anything that could be considered "facist."

I say you guys should just continue smuggling these movies in. Sooner or later they'll have to question whether all this is worth the trouble.

[Dehydrator]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
Strange, you'd think that Germany would be the country most eager to avoid doing anything that could be considered "facist."
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Hmm, well that's a though issue but yes you are right. All is not well here, not at all. When I said that ASTRO would get witchburned in Bavaria, I of course ment that ironically but it's not too far from the truth. From what I gather, the bannings of movies remains from the time period the CDU ( Christian-Democratic-Union ) gouvered the country. I don't want to get too far in politics here, but this is a party I am really afraid of. I'm sure lots of people trust them because of the capital C in their name, somehow denying that these guys ( or better, their leads ) are pure evil. Luckily, they seem pretty incompetent these days but especially in Bavaria they are real big ( that country has the most christian population ). If they weren't so damm incompetent and would get in the gouverment again, I think I would leave, along with lots of people who share that opinion. I could talk for the whole night here, but I think that wouldn't fit the topic. If you're interested in this just e-mail me at : todimfreibad@gmx.de

[ERIN_LoJ]

Any movies banned for the US?

[Jason Voorhees]

OMG are you guys serious? I cant believe all those great horror flicks are banned anywhere! Thank god for the USA and for Freedom, Censorship is evil, I cant believe they think movies would corrupt the minds of sensible adults. I can understand not renting them out to children but damn... As if people dont know the diffrence between real and make believe. Anyone who is dumb enough to be influenced to kill by a horror movie probably hasnt even figured out which side of the TV to watch yet, So how dangerous could they be?

[zeke1313]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Dehydrator:
CHILD'S PLAY? Look what's banned in Germany:

OPERA
BIRD WITH CRYSTAL PLUMMAGE
SUSPIRIA
HALLOWEEN II
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE II
TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE III
FRIDAY THE 13TH ( all of them! )
DEEP RED
NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD
DAWN OF THE DEAD
DAY OF THE DEAD
RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD
EVIL DEAD
EVIL DEAD II
BAD TASTE
DEAD ALIVE
TENEBRE
HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY
GATES OF HELL
pretty much every other Fulci Movie
A BAY OF BLOOD
THE DENTIST
BLOOD AND BLACK LACE
THE TOXIC AVENGER


Movies that are legal but cut to shit:
NOES ( all of them! )
LEPRECHAUN ( thanks )
HALLOWEEN SERIES ( even fuckin' H20 is cut to shit )
NEAR DARK ( not even a bar-scene in the legal version )
THE EXORCIST

I could go on for 10 pages! Censorship sucks!</font>

GOD DAMN! I never relized that there was movies like this banned in the world. I feel so much simathy for you guys! Im sorry to say this but damn am I glad Im a US citizen. LONG LIVE THE US!

[Leather x Face]

MPAA looks like they don't give a fuck compared to Germany.