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Kastman
02-07-2002, 08:43 AM
I dont see why so many people dont want remakes. i think any good movie can be made better because of the technology we have (what an age we live in) and also the crap movies can be remade so that they are no longer crap. does anyone agree?

Bub
02-07-2002, 10:44 AM
The thing I don't get is why they always remake good horror films. I agree that they should remake a bad horror film. The only good remake I can think of is The Fly.

Irish13
02-07-2002, 11:57 AM
I agree Katsman, what`s the big deal about remakes? If it sucks, well then it sucks we still have the original. Plus there is always the chance the remake will be better, as in Carpenters The Thing.

countchocula
02-07-2002, 03:18 PM
Remakes should only be done if the original is mediocre or could use a good polish. Obviously, remakes of "classics" are quite pointless and usually end up as an embarrassing disgrace, but sometimes we're proven wrong. Whenever the TCM remake comes out, as low as my expectations are, I'll go in with an open mind. There's always the off-chance that I'll be pleasantly surprised with it.

Seph
02-07-2002, 03:30 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by countchocula:
Remakes should only be done if the original is mediocre or could use a good polish. Obviously, remakes of "classics" are quite pointless and usually end up as an embarrassing disgrace, but sometimes we're proven wrong. </font>

exactly...

Scully1888
02-07-2002, 07:32 PM
I liked the Night Of The Living Dead remake, as well as The Thing and The Fly.
So not all remakes are shitfests like Psycho was.

ParileseMonster
02-07-2002, 10:18 PM
Modern technology my ass, what do you want me to do blow chunks? CGI is such a damn disgrace and can not even compare or come close to the art of makeup special effects which includes scale models and special photography techniques. There is no hands on creativity anymore nor is there a using all resorces with all the elbow grease you got attitude in movies these days and it really is damn sad. There is also no originality. People do not want to work on bringing anything new to the screens, they just want to capitalize and monopolize on something already made that is better off left alone in the first damn place. People do not give remakes justice and its a constant spit in the faces of the original. If this keeps happening it will never stop and by the time I am 80 there will be six remakes of the same damn movie what the hell is the point in that? My future children will not know what an original idea is, they will not respect cinema and appreciate it because its a constant carbon copy and they will probally never see or touch a real set of boobs and think that they all are implanted and not home grown! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

mr_gamecube
02-07-2002, 11:31 PM
I would like to see a remake of The Creature from the Black Lagoon! wasn't carpenter suppose to do it?

JayWolf
02-07-2002, 11:54 PM
I know what you mean, ParileseMonster. A lot of remakes and CGI effects suck dick! CGIs were much better looking in the early 90's. That's because they also used puppeteer work and stuff like that to make it look real. These days it's just mostly half-assed CGIs. Also, notice how most remakes made in the 80's were actually good and the remakes in the 90's suck? Did anyone pick up on it? God, the mid and late 90's movie genre really sucked for the most part. We need some more 80's style back in the movie industry. Once I'm a director, I will make a horror movie that takes place in the good old 80's.

KingPhenom007
02-08-2002, 12:09 AM
Amen. I miss the 80s.... back when horror makers still had originality and the movies were worth watching. Hollywood has gotten lazy. They hire morons like Kevin Williamson to create movies but all he does is still scenes from classic horror flicks and passes them as his own. I cant believe Linda Blair is gonna help make a Hell Night remake.

JayWolf
02-08-2002, 12:16 AM
I know, Kevin Williamson's idea isn't so original as it was claimed to be. He stole lots of stuff and ideas from other films and put it together to make SCREAM. I'm not knocking SCREAM, but my god, it wasn't really that original. I miss the 80's and early 90's when they're were still really good movies.

Irish13
02-08-2002, 11:37 AM
I hear ya, JayWolf! Couldn`t agree more.

Hell Phantom
02-08-2002, 05:05 PM
Aslong as they don't change the plot at all or maybe alittle that dosn't ruin it and make the monster look way bad ass. Have sweet affects a little more character indepth and a better death scene such as Creature From The Black Lagoon would be an excelent remake. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif
Please make that one!

Quebec-Joel
02-09-2002, 04:15 AM
Well, Hollywood remakes all the movies they can. I mean, I am french. Well, you can't even imagine how many french film they take and turn into total crap. I'll take a famous example. They take Jean-Luc Godard : À bout de Souffle http://us.imdb.com/Title?0053472 witch is one of the greatest movies. And they turn it into that "thing" http://us.imdb.com/Title?0085276 Breathless. Even here in Québec, they come and steel some of out ideas. We don't have a huge production : about 12 movies a year. But they still find something to copy. They took Louis 19 http://us.imdb.com/Title?0110390 witch was nothing like a really great movies and Hollywood took the idea and made EdTV http://us.imdb.com/Title?0131369

You got Ted Turner witch is some old fashion cowboy jerk that wanna change Citizen Kane to be in colors. Too bad, Orson Welles sign something that said nobody will ever touch his movie in any ways. So much, it is not even possible to dub it in another language. I think the whole ideas of remakes is bullshit and don't bring me the ideas of technologies that are better. The directors are not any better, they don't have a clue. I don't care to see a old horror movies with monster that look completely unrealistic to today's standard. I don't care they can make this or that look better with CGI... and even if everyone in Hollywood have no ideas what to do, they should just go around the world and find guys like Alejandro Amenábar (director of The Others) and give them some money. Cause they have ideas but don't always receive the budget to make them come true.

Jason13thh
02-09-2002, 01:12 PM
Most of the time the remakes suck hard !!
Only a few exceptions :
The Fly ( Cronenberg )
The Thing ( One of my favorite film of all time !!! )
Body Snatchers ( Abbel Ferrara, good lights and atmospheric )
Friday The 13th ( for A Bay Of Blood from Bava )

Psychocandy
02-09-2002, 02:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason13thh:
Most of the time the remakes suck hard !!
Only a few exceptions :
The Fly ( Cronenberg )
The Thing ( One of my favorite film of all time !!! )
Body Snatchers ( Abbel Ferrara, good lights and atmospheric )
Friday The 13th ( for A Bay Of Blood from Bava ) </font>

Good call on Abel Ferrara's Body Snatchers. I suspect he only did it to finance another one of his scuzzed out, cynical melodramas but at least he didn't sleepwalk his way through the directing chores. I absolutely love the scene where the two main characters do a runner and every door in the neighborhood opens and out come a whole bunch of the body-snatched who proceed to do that hideous scream thing. Sent a real shiver up my spine (and back down again). Good stuff.

Lindsey
02-09-2002, 02:26 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scully1888:
I liked the Night Of The Living Dead remake, </font>

As do I. I saw the remake (1990) just last night. I'll tell ya, it was much better then the 60's 'classic'. I think remakes go either way. They can either fuck up a true classic, or they can be better for our enjoyment.

Cyclonus
02-09-2002, 05:54 PM
That's a good point, hon, but I've been wary of them ever since I saw the Psycho remake. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Scully1888
02-10-2002, 07:26 AM
I think that remakes can make you see a movie in a new light. I did "Night Of The Living Dead" the wrong way round: I saw the remake first, then the original.

I loved the remake because of its constant scares and excellent special effects.

And I loved the original because of the character development and the underlying theme that even when you're fighting to save the world, people can often waste it by disagreeing and not getting along (a bit like Day of the Dead).

So, in other words, both movies rule the proverbial arse. In my opinion, of course.

cheech
02-10-2002, 08:27 AM
I read somewhere that Tim Burtons Sleepy Hollow was a remake, but I thought that story was never filmed before.
Which film is the original, then?

Hell Phantom
02-10-2002, 11:34 AM
Its a remake of the movie, The ledged of the headless horsmen and it is a remake of all the ledges of the headless horsemen all into one batch with a major plot! It is a great movie! I love Sleepy Hollow.

Marc Fantozzi
02-11-2002, 04:58 AM
the remake of psycho was fucked what the hell was with the masturbating scene. alfred hitchcock would turn in his grave.

poor guy.

at least the sequels were much better than the fucked up remake.

cape fear was a great remake though and i want to see notld's remake too

Jason Voorhees
02-11-2002, 10:41 AM
Remakes ususally suck though there are some good ones which have been listed. If they suck just stick to the original I say.

Mr Dark-Light
03-12-2002, 04:35 AM
I saw the original Psycho a few months before the remake came out, and I'll truthfully tell you the idea of remaking the film scene by scene came into my head as a good idea. Unfortunately it just did not not work when it did get remade.

Razorblade Smile
03-12-2002, 09:33 AM
The CGI craze has definately careened wildly out of control. Producers don't seem to understand that CGI is there to enhance a film, not define it.

Take for example, An American Werewolf in Paris. All in all, not a bad film really. Plot wise it was even better than the original. But instead of going with tried-and-true werewolf effects, they decided to bedazzle us with these crappy CGI werewolves that looked like hairless dogs with big-noses more than anything else. That in and of itself, makes the film practically forgetable.

(Yes, I know that AWIP is a sequal and not a remake, but I just wanted to make note of the shitty FX)

However, the all-time ass clown re-make award without a doubt goes to 1996's remake of The Island of Doctor Moreau!

To quote Bart Simpson, "This is the suckiest suck-fest that ever did suck."

I realize that the original director was fired half-way through filming and I further realize that that psychopath Val Kilmer more or less sabotaged the film from start to finish...but HOLY HELL this is bad! Brando should be ashamed of himself for participating in this embarassment. And what in the name of sweet fuck was that little red wrinkly guy supposed to be?!?!?! Holy shit, he looks like something out of a circus side-show! And the CGI was crap in that too. I see better animation in an episode of South Park!

--so endeth the rant.