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Jason13thh

11-07-2001, 02:47 PM

I totally agree with Jewbo, they ( the modern slashers ) don't have the same mood, the same look as the old ones from the 80's.
However some modern slashers are worth seeing : Urban Legend 2, Cut ( don't say boo! it was good ! ) A Clow At Midnight and others.
But I prefer the slashers from the 80's :
Terror Train, Sleepaway Camp, Friday the 13th, Just Before Dawn, Bodycount,etc...
I am 25 so it has nothing to do with my age.
I also prefer the gialli ( from the 80's and early 70's )

Cyclonus

11-07-2001, 03:53 PM

Hey, I liked "Scream," it was fun to watch!

The sequels blew, though. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

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countchocula

11-07-2001, 04:01 PM

When Scream came out, it felt pretty fresh. I enjoyed it very much and while it doesn't have quite the same effect on me today, I still consider it to be a solid horror film. It's definitely much better than any one of the hollow slashers that it spawned.

iluvamber19

11-07-2001, 05:26 PM

Scream wasn't that bad of a movie. The bad thing about it is it wasn't scary at all. The slasher movies like Texas Chainsaw Massacre scared the shit out of me.

ParileseMonster

11-07-2001, 10:11 PM

Scream annoys the shit out of me. It is so goddamned trendy it makes me want to vomit. The actors have no versitality and they make me want to murder them. Actors are not what they used to be. Hell Hollywood will take anyone off the streets regardless just like your local self assist senior facilities,(you want some unlicensed person changing and showering and medicating your granny?)These movies are for ungrateful brats to drool over and I am not one of those!

Cyclonus

11-07-2001, 10:14 PM

I think Parilese is on a crusade.

french guy tom

11-08-2001, 03:43 AM

SCREAM was a very good slasher. Not a real horror flick but still good. The fact is that it was overrated but it helped to bring the horror genre back to life in the late 90s so...
SCREAM 2 was great (that's my opinion !) . I felt a bit nostalgic when I saw it because it reminded me of the 80s slasher films (the campus, Beltrami's old fashioned soundtrack...)
SCREAM 3 sucked. An awful ending, no surprises...really disapointing.
Now, there is a ressurection of the horror film. So maybe that the succes of SCREAM at the box office was a good thing for the genre we love. If JEEPERS CREEPERS, THE OTHERS or 13 GHOSTS exist, maybe it is due to SCREAM ?!! So respects...

Threatened

11-08-2001, 07:06 PM

The first Scream was fun and i.m.o. pretty original... The sequels were terrible.

Plus we got I Know What You Did Last Summer... Who's leading lady was ten times hotter then Neve Campbell. Also, I actually had fun watching the sequel... thought it was pretty entertaining.

-T.

ParileseMonster

11-08-2001, 08:18 PM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cyclonus:
I think Parilese is on a crusade.</font>

Yeah I think from the looks of it, it would seem that way! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

be very afraid

11-08-2001, 08:21 PM

Scream blows. It's corny and useless. It helps to further water down the genre. Slasher movies were spent by around '83. I'd say From Dusk 'til Dawn is much funnier and cooler, as far as "funny" horror movies go.

JDog83

11-09-2001, 12:15 AM

Have you even seen SCREAM "be very afraid"? It's one of the most savage, bloody, gory, modern slasher films around! It's not watered down in the least (see Scream 3 for that!) and I was impressed when I first saw it and still am a big fan of the original Scream. The film was made on a small budget for a small studio with a mostly unknown cast. Great flick.

Token Fat Guy

11-09-2001, 02:23 AM

Ahh...well Kevin Williamson's sort of big around here. I live like in the vicinity of his home town, his school, and all. And as I've said before, I've actually fished in the REAL Dawson's Creek. I got stung by a jellyfish!

But uh, back to the main topic. I think for me, that kinda helped make Scream a little more special for me than for that of the average movie goer. I have to confess that yes, I dug Scream. Had there been no sequel, had there been not a gazillion rip offs...I would've been content with JUST Scream.

But now I hate ol' Ghostface with a passion. I hate the sequels, Scream 2 to me wasn't even a horror flick. That whole 'I think I love you' scene in the cafeteria...*GAG* The first one had enough horror in it to tide me over. I mean, a Hellraiser and an Evil Dead refrence within the same sentence! That was great! The second one....aye caramba...it had me gagging....

AND THE 3RD!!! Holy Schmokes....horrible plot, horrible characters *except for the girl playing Gale in the Stab movie...her, I liked*, RANDY'S SISTER?! WTF?! THERE! I PUT A WTF IN MY POST, AND I TRY TO REFRAIN FROM HARDCORE PROFANITY PEOPLE!!!! THAT'S HOW ENFURIATED I AM!! The ending was hideous, and I heard they only used 10 GALLONS OF BLOOD in the movie! I believe it too! And what's even more shocking to me is that the screenwriter, Ehran Krueger (sp?) is still getting work after this abomination!!!

The Scream series in short, is essentially a 'feel good' horror (and I use the term, loosely) series that families can sit around and watch together.

And in my eyes, if you wanna see the worst thing the Scream series has done....go watch HALLOWEEN and HALLOWEEN 2. Then watch Halloween: H20.

I think you'll get my drift.

Token Fat Guy

JDog83

11-09-2001, 01:29 PM

Halloween II was god-awful. A plotless rehash with Jamie Lee laying in a hospital bed for most of the movie. And go watch the terrible crap that Halloween brought--the pointless ripoffs that set in the video store waiting to be watched. So, you must hate Halloween too, since it is popular and had ripoffs, and F13. Hate all horror maybe?

Halloween: H20 was not even a bad movie. It was nothing special but if you want bad go rent Halloween 5.

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be very afraid

11-09-2001, 02:49 PM

Yes, I did see Scream. I will admit that it's not the worst movie I've seen, but it's pretty boring and unoriginal. I don't care how gorey or bloody it is. That alone does not make me enjoy a horror movie. I'm not trying to change opinions, just contributing mine.
I like ALOT of movies that I'm well aware of how technically bad they may be; I admit it. I place alot of sentimental value on movies that just flat out suck. I mean, Plan 9 and the Shining are two different animals, but they BOTH have a place in my twisted heart, for very different reasons. Scream just dosen't do it for me. There are no risks being taken.

Token Fat Guy

11-09-2001, 10:43 PM

Yes Jdog 83, you sure have my number. I hate all horror. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

For starters, I can see where my point about
Halloween H20 was misunderstood. I wasn't trying to imply that Halloween H20 was a horrible movie, or by far, the worst one in the series (like you mentioned, that honor does go to Halloween 5) but the entire atmosphere was changed. I really could've done without the Psycho refrences galore, the 'hip' dialogue, and a speed walking Michael Myers. Yeah, the last one I probably can't blame on Scream but I will anyway.

And I never said I didn't like Scream because it's popular. Actually, I said I dug the original, hated the rest. And since it's a trilogy...and I hate 2 out of the 3 films, I'm not going to consider myself a fan of the series in general. I like Scream, but hate the Scream series.

The fact that I like Halloween does not change because of ripoffs and horrible sequels. The same goes for Scream.

Like I wrote, "I have to confess that yes, I dug Scream. Had there been no sequel, had there been not a gazillion rip offs...I would've been content with JUST Scream."

I would have PREFERED that they hadn't made those sequels, and those rip offs. I wouldn't have as much to complain about, my blood pressure'd be lower that way, and all and all I think it'd be a nicer world if there had JUST been Scream.

That doesn't mean that my whole opinion of an original movie has changed because of the crap that came after it.

Token Fat Guy

The Rob

11-09-2001, 11:19 PM

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Hey, I liked "Scream," it was fun to watch!
The sequels blew, though.
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Aye

Dehydrator

11-10-2001, 07:57 AM

I'm completely with TOKEN FAT GUY on SCREAM 3. This was by far the worst of all modern-day slashers, in terms of plot and ending . It sucks so hard from every possible angle.

However, I like the first SCREAM. It's been too long ago since I saw the SCREAM II but I remember not exactly hating it. There are way worse.

I don't think you can call SCREAM trendy because there was no trend until SCREAM. trend-setter sounds more accurate but even I admit, that this trend sucked ass mostely. But I always say that the kids are better off watching URBAN LEGENDS than RUNAWAY BRIDE...

DeadByDawn

11-19-2001, 01:59 PM

Let's just say, that after the first Scream, almost everything got fucked up. Horror movies became a trend and all kinds of lame people started digging horror, but they know only the Screams and the Urban Legends etc. They had no idea who Lucio Fulci or Dario Argento were. Hardly knew what "gore" meaned. They thought that they were real horror fans after watching Scream and that pissed me off. They had no fucking idea about real horror or gore movies. I've some guys saying "Hey! Wasn't that Scream so cool? Maybe the bloodiest movie ever! I love horror movies, they're fashion, anyway! Let's go to skate!" The guys were skaters! Since when horror movies have been fashion or when some lame-assed fashion-following skaters have known something about horror? Tell me that! This is why I hate almost every fucking modern horror films (I don't mean that they all suck, there are exceptions). They become a fashion and spoil the genre with the new so called "horror fans" of the HipHop-generation! Fashion my ass! Oh, sorry! I got a little angry, that's all. Well, that was my opinion.

izombie

11-19-2001, 03:22 PM

Careful when you attempt to pigeon hole people. You don't have to dress a certain way or act a certain way to like a genre of movies. When I was in line to meet Bruce Campbell last month I had to stick out like a sore thumb, I had blue jeans and a collared shirt on (cut me some slack it was date night), 90+% of the people in line looked like they were auditioning for The Misfits, you know what there were only 3 assholes in the 450+ people there. I spent the evening talking to the people in our area as we snaked through the line, and my conclusion other than these are some real nice people, I knew more about horror movies than them, so what big deal, should they have known more because the were just Goth/punk?

So why can't a skater like horror movies? If you were to see me walking down the street you might never suspect I'm a huge horror fan.

Is it really their fault they have never heard of Fulci? How old were they? I am old enough to remember when the Gates of Hell played in theaters in the US. I was excited when my local video store got it on VHS. How many Fulci or Argento movies does their local video store carry.

Rather than being pissed off, convert them! Recommend some movies that they might like, you know give em the, "Hey if you think Scream was good you should really check out Deep Red or Tenebre...."

And to stay on topic, I thought Scream was blah, it make no real impact on me at all, its sequles should be burned.

JDog83

11-19-2001, 06:28 PM

All films have copycats. For about five years after a popular film comes out there are a slew of similar films. That's how movies work. Get over it. Scream ruled, it's copycats were pretty bad, but that still doesn't change the fact that Scream was good. And most horror films steal from other horror films, at least Scream didn't deny it.

DeadByDawn

11-21-2001, 11:05 AM

Oh, sorry. I just totally freaked out. Well, I guess there's nothing bad, if (for example) a skater likes horror movies. I just freaked out because of the sequels and the copycats. Sorry about this...

Jason Voorhees

11-21-2001, 12:48 PM

Ugh I hate them all, Scream 1 was an overrated, arrogant, condescending piece of shit. The movie was written to be far more clever than every other horror flick or slasher, even taking jabs at a few of them. Then they go on to have just as many cliches as any other slasher flick. It's ridiculous. Also I agree the movies are way to trendy, all the characters are annoying, and the kill/nudity content is ver low for slasher films. Ugh they all suck

Jason Voorhees

11-21-2001, 01:14 PM

Ok my last post was pretty negative.. let me try to inject a little positive sentiment. If Scream had just been one movie, hadnt had lame ass sequels, hadnt been ripped off by a billion shitty ass hour and a half long gap ads, and if every fucking movie in the world would learn to stop referencing better films that itself, then I would have liked Scream. I mean I dont need these references, I know all about F13TH, Halloween, NOES, TCM, Hellraiser, and Psycho. I dont need or want to be spoon-fed this stuff that horror buffs already know or something teeny boppers wouldnt understand anyway. I'm glad that Scream tryed something a little diffrent, I just wish the concept hadnt been diluted each time it was ripped off by a lesser film.

Tyrone

11-23-2001, 04:21 PM

I'll tell you something. When SCREAM first came out I wasn't all that keen on the pop culture horror tip, but it has grown on me in leaps and bounds, just like I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER or URBAN LEGEND or DISTURBING BEHAVIOR. Sure SCREAM is no classic, but the cinematography is so damn slick and the dialogue so witty that I can't help but like it. True, it's more style than substance, but sometimes style is good. Sometimes I like eye candy. Sometimes I like rock and roll sometimes I like classical. That's all I'm trying to say. Besides, I like the poor man's Johnny Depp, Skeet Ulrich.

takayamaRyuji

11-23-2001, 08:20 PM

Not a fan of that there Scream series, nosiree.

Nor that newfangled I Know What You Did Last Summer. Or Dracula 2000. Wait, I see a pattern emerging...

trashing qbert

11-25-2001, 04:14 PM

Scream and is copy cat army are NOT scary or spooky.

p.s.: you don't make a good movie just by quoting a lot of other movie.

Tyrone

11-27-2001, 08:39 PM

First off, trashing qbert, I must say that QBERT was one of the greatest videogames EVER, bar none, except maybe DRAGON'S LAIR.

With that said, I must stand by my SCREAM and say that POINT TAKEN. You don't make a good movie just by quoting a bunch of other horror movies. You make a GREAT MOVIE by quoting a bunch of other movies and ADDING your own UNIQUE TWIST. Think about it guys and gals. Like EINSTEIN said, "Originality doesn't really exist. Originality is a product of cleverly hiding your sources."

Okay. I admit it. I made that up. EINSTEIN didn't say that, but he might as well have. Get my point?

Horror movies suffered much from the lack of originality it displayed with the many FRIDAY THE 13TH, HALLOWEEN, etc. clones that appeared after the initial releases, and I for one, am glad that films like A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET used these old formulas to their advantage. "Original" should be erasaed from the dictionary. THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE original? No. Neither PSYCHO. Real life. Ed Gein Wisconsin. FRIDAY THE 13th? No. BAY OF BLOOD, except much, much better. I bet back in Roman Times they had these same URBAN LEGENDS, minus the Shatner Mask and White Jump Suit of course. And the ancient Egyptians probably had fears about madmen that didn't wear the infringed upon Hockey Mask and love to be creative. I don't know. Maybe I'm strange. maybe I think TOO much, but FEAR is as much of the human existence as it has EVER been. Just me. Just you. Whatever. Just a Thought. So in short, that's why SCREAM is just as good as any other quality horror film. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

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thelion78

12-06-2001, 04:05 PM

Scream 1 was....ok, I guess. Most of 90´s (teen) "horror" films have sucked (especially Urban Legends 2). But then again we all have the right to our own opinions, and when it´s a question of taste, there are no right or wrong answers.

If we talk about 90´s horror movies, I must say that I liked the Night Flier.It had many elements of good ole horror flicks.

thelion78

12-06-2001, 04:08 PM

teenkiller

04-01-2002, 10:21 PM

Its not that I absolutely HATE this trilogy but it spawned a new hip and trendy era that I'm not too fond of. These films just aren't effective as the classic 80's slashers that I long for. Nowadays it seems that the killer is some teenager rather than an unstopable killer monster that I prefer. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.