nightmare on elm street

[Michael_myers]

i ALWAYS THOUGHT a NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET WAS SO OVERRATED. i MEAN IT SUCKED CUMON

[gorysnoopy]

ok why did it suck?
it scared the shit out of me when i was 10 but to be honest i havent seen it in years.

[Kaos]

What didn't you like about it? Give us some feedback insted of just saying it sucked.

[teenkiller]

I consider it one of the greatest movies of all time. The idea of dying in your sleep meaning you were dead for real is very intriguing as is Freddy's back story. I think he is the most interesting serial killer by far. I love Michael and Jason but Freddy actually has a personality and his wardrobe just sticks out. His shirt, his hat, his make up and his fukcin finger knive glove are all very creative. This fukcer gets inside your head and knows what scares you. He is one of the most devious and down right evil son of a bitch you will ever see. The Dream Warriors has always been my favorite movie of all time and will be forever. I have seen it literally over 100 times. Although I dont agree with your opinion I cant say that your wrong because its just an opinion and ill respect you for it. Freddy is relentless and shocking. GOD bless Robert Englund for his unparalelled performance in a movie. Thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[cereal killer]

Like Kaos and gorysnoopy said back up your talk man. Tell us why it sucked. Personaly I thought the movie was amazing and it revolutionized the genre in my opinion without it we would not have Lawrence Fishburne in any movies and the horror genre could quiet possibly be dead without it.

[Michael_myers]

im sorry, i thought the first was boring and overratted, it didnt exactly suck, and Jason is a tard and has no personality, and michaels off screwing druids an monks, i did think new nightmare was good, which sequel should I see?????? Freddy is brought to life by Robert Englund. The only other character, actualy io can think of with much reason is Norman Bates, what do U all have 2 say bout that.

[gorysnoopy]

i totally agree.this was a unique story that revitalized the genre.it wasnt about some maniac in the woods.for a change it had an interesting premise and a killer with a real motive for revenge.and he was a sick twisted fuck to boot!a pedophile/murderer!
so again i ask:why do you think it sucks?

[gorysnoopy]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Michael_myers:
im sorry, i thought the first was boring and overratted, it didnt exactly suck, and Jason is a tard and has no personality, and michaels off screwing druids an monks, i did think new nightmare was good, which sequel should I see?????? Freddy is brought to life by Robert Englund. The only other character, actualy io can think of with much reason is Norman Bates, what do U all have 2 say bout that.</font>

1.watch the whole series
2.umm,what do jason and michael have to do with this topic?
3.are you saying that norman bates is the only other character with personality?
help me out here,dude! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[The Rob]

It was OK........... I rmember new nightmare scaring me........

[teenkiller]

Yes you should definitley see the whole series. Especially 3. That movie is way too fukcin awesome. Freddy is sinister and has one of the most interesting backstories of any serial killer ever. The teens in these movies arent paper thin like other movies and they are well developed and likeable.
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Even his killings are unique. He doesnt just stab someone or do a decapitation he tortures motherfukcers like i've never seen before. Tina was dragged all across the ceiling and completely split open. That was original.
Freddy revolutionized the horror genre and how we think of it. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Romero&Juliet]

The first ANOES and new nightmare are the only ones that I can sit through..the idea of Freddy Kruger, one of the best developped killers ever, turning into Jerry F'ing Sienfeld is ridiculous. granted they ARE entertaining, but it's bastardisation of a great killer and story
I thought that ANOES really was different from alot of horror movies in the sense that it made the teenagers(who, in most horror movies were stereotyped as being stupid drug-addicts, and party animals) more sensible than the adults..the cop father dealing with guilt about taking the law into his own hands...the mother alcoholic. None of the adults were willing to help Nancy AT ALL!!! KNOWING WHO EXACTLY WHO FREDDY WAS!!
I really got a sense of Nancy wanting to prove that she could do what her parents' genoration tried to do, and couldn't..and that being Kicking the crap out of Freddy.
As far as it being boring, I can see what you mean. There are loads of movies that are more fun and easier to sit through than ANOES, but there's something about the story really is great.In fact the story is flawless!! ..and the acting was really great too, which is really rare.

[Freddy Vorhees]

Nightmare on Elm STreet is a grate movie anyone that doesn't like it can lick the earwaX out of my ear!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pariah]

I rank A NIGHTARE ON ELM STREET as one of the Top 5 Horror Films of All Time. It's one of the few films which actually scared me as a child. That says a lot, because I had (and still have) a pretty thick skin. It's most certainly not overrated.

[countchocula]

I wouldn't say that it's overrated, but the climax is just plain silly. Allow me to explain...

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Nancy tells her dad to break the door down in 20 minutes, giving her just enough time to fall asleep, enter dreamland, and capture Freddy, bringing him into reality. This seems like a coherent strategy. However, instead of going straight to bed, she takes time out to construct elaborate booby traps scattered throughout the house. By the time she completes this task, the time allotted should have passed. But no! Nancy still has plenty of time to fall asleep, conjure up Freddy in a dream, and then drag him into our realm. That just doesn't add up. Also, I've never been terribly fond of the typical NOES showdown. Freddy could easily take Nancy out in a heartbeat, but he basically attempts to wrestle her into submission. This is almost as embarrassing as the kung-fu finale to NOES4. Lest we forget the nonsensical "jolt ending."

Besides the third act, A Nightmare on Elm Street is definitely not overrated in my book. There has never been a creepier horror icon than Freddy Krueger.

[the saw is family]

i've never been a fan of the film or the series i really only like part three. to me it was never scary. freddy is a great character though,definetly one of horrors best figures. also tot he above poster who said with out noes we wouldnt have laurence fishburne he was in films before noes 3 apacolypse now just to name one.

[Romero&Juliet]

does anyone else think that NOES 3 was completely overrated????

[teenkiller]

No Nightmare 3 is my favorite movie of all time. I absolutely love the fact that everybody teams up to try to stop Freddy as opposed to just about every other movie where its just one person who knows about Freddy and nobody believes him/her.

[teenkiller]

Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Wwl66]

I've been to a site selling hard to find videos and one of the tapes is ANOES.It's supposed to have all these extra scenes,one includes Glen dieing differently,and its got 3 different endings.If any of you know about these I'd like to know because I've been thinking about buying it.

[freddy666]

Man I do not even know what to say to someone who doesnt like ANOES, I think it is one of the best if not the best slasher movies of all time. Freddy is a great villian, funny and evil and the thought of messing with someone dreams is such a creative idea and i love it, Freddy is the man!

[AlienClown]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Wwl66:
I've been to a site selling hard to find videos and one of the tapes is ANOES.It's supposed to have all these extra scenes,one includes Glen dieing differently,and its got 3 different endings.If any of you know about these I'd like to know because I've been thinking about buying it.</font>
Actually that version with the added/alternative footage is not hard to find at all, I think the 90s video re-release, which is what most video stores carry, has that stuff.

[Michael_myers]

I just thought the movie was boring, y does that bother u, but it was good compared to... lets say Child's Play 3, or um, TCM3. Ok i admit it was better than Scream, and oh wut the hell wut am I saying, NOES rox! I luved that movie, ok, lets just say, im nopt A freddy fan, and Norman Bates its not his fault, and whoever said Jason&Michael, have nuthing to do with this, go 2 hell bcuz they r all great! Oh my god theyre all great!
o welll, Bye fer now my fellows

[Draven2277]

Wes Craven's ANOES was a revolutionary addition to the horror genre. It made a tremendous impact on me as a child in 1984 when it was released, and it still makes an impact. The scene where he kills Tina in the bedroom is classic. Even today i can't take my eyes off it. So no, ANOES is not overrated at all. i wish Mr. Craven would provide us with a gem like that once again, instead of wasting his time with that "Scream" bullshit. Come back to us, Wes!! I miss you!!

[gorysnoopy]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Michael_myers:
I just thought the movie was boring, y does that bother u, but it was good compared to... lets say Child's Play 3, or um, TCM3. Ok i admit it was better than Scream, and oh wut the hell wut am I saying, NOES rox! I luved that movie, ok, lets just say, im nopt A freddy fan, and Norman Bates its not his fault, and whoever said Jason&Michael, have nuthing to do with this, go 2 hell bcuz they r all great! Oh my god theyre all great!
o welll, Bye fer now my fellows</font>

i asked you what michael and jason had to do with your post.as for goin to hell,i'm already here:P

[Michael_myers]

did ne one like Freddy's dead, and as fer ANOEMS, its my opinion, k people???

[gorysnoopy]

i actually liked freddy's dead.
there i said it.

[teenkiller]

Yeah Freddy's Dead was awesome... not as good as the first four but still awesome nonetheless. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Antonio]

A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (1984) Directed by Wes Craven. Excellent slasher-supernatural hybrid centering around lynched child molester and murderer Freddy Krueger (Robert Englund in his star-making role), who haunts the teen children of his assailants during their nightmares. Heather Langenkamp stars as the film's heroine Nancy Thompson, who attempts to bring Freddy out of her nightmares and into reality, where she hopes to battle him on her own turf. Among the excellent supporting cast: John Saxon of “Black Christmas” fame as Langenkamp's policeman father; Ronee Blakley (an Oscar-nominee for “Nashville”) as her alcoholic mother; a very young Johnny Depp (in his film debut) as the innocent boyfriend; Amanda Wyss (who has the Janet Leigh role) as the best friend; and Nick Corri as Wyss's rebellious bad boy lover. This mega-hit spawned one of the better horror film series to date (even better than the more popular “Halloween” and “Friday The 13th” series). The film's only flaws are Langenkamp's uneven acting (excellent in some scenes, bland in others), and the stupid, stupid, stupid ending which mars an otherwise top-notch horror movie. Craven's finest hour (until the debut of “Scream” in 1996). This film catapulted Englund to horror movie superstardom. My grade: B+

[Haddonfield]

let me throw my two cents in here...

Nightmare part 1 scared the SHITE out of me when i first saw it. man it was CREEPY STUFF!! as mentioned the Tina killing was downright wrong! I had a chance to view this again a few months back and really chew it up as an adult and my conclusion is...its dated big time. Im not a fan of Heather as an actress. she seemed to butcher most of her lines. Freddy is downright messed up in this flick. but when i watch the others in the "big three" they dont seem too stuck in the era they were created in. You wouldnt know what year Halloween took place if they didnt tell you. almost the same for Friday part 1. But in Elm Street the look and feel TO ME just says 80's. and thats my problem with the whole series..forget the fact that freddy became a muppet, i dont like the rock n roll attitude they tried to create for the series. with a subject as dark and highly creative as it is, i expected more...of course i can pretty much say that about everything Wes Craven has done.

on another note...i cant stand part 3!!! Heather bothers me to know end and so does that damn wizard kid..along with "tounge tied" joey. this was the start of freddy becoming as scary as a smurf. ill give you the very nice puppet doll kill..still a fave of mine...and the "wanna ket high" kill..but two scenes does not a movie make. it all went down hill after part 4 including the lackluster New Nightmare. damn that Heather!!!! ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRHHHHHHH!!!

[Wwl66]

Actually AlienClown this was a workprint version not the re-releashed version.The workprint sports a lot more.

[HalloweenShape31]

As for sequels, I would normally suggest seeing the films in order, but if you didn't like the first film alot and are looking for a sequel to see to get you into it, see Dream Warriors, Part 3. I actually love all of them. I never understood why so many hate Part 2. I like it because it stands on its own and is very enjoyable. It also features two of my favorite lines from Freddy: "You are all my children now!" and "Help yourself Fucker!" Yes i even like Dream Child somewhat. I think the worst is Freddy's Dead, but i still like it for its exploration of Freddy's past. Bring on NOES 8 and F vs. J!

[Wwl66]

Like HalloweenShape31 said bring em on.I mean shit,Robert Englund ain't gettin no younger.We still got many good years of Kane Hodder left,but in like 5 more years,Robby will be on medicare and social security.

[Andrew Tom]

I've been wondering this for a bit, and while I know I might be completely wrong, I want to clarify something.

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Ok, so in the end of the first NOES, Freddy is defeated by Nancy. Ok, cool, good for her. But Freddy returns to haunt her(and others) in NOES 3. Now, I haven't seen this one yet, but to my knowledge Freddy kills Nancy in it and gets his revenge on her. Correct me if I'm wrong.

After this came Freddy came the comedian. That is until Wes Craven decided to give Freddy a decent burial and made New Nightmare. I loved the movie, but something keeps bugging me. Wes says that Freddy/The Demon keeps haunting Heather because Nancy was the only one who could fight Freddy.

So, to my question. Why does Freddy/The Demon go after Heather/Nancy even though Freddy killed her in NOES 3?

I hope I made even a little sense.

[Scully1888]

Yeah, I can see where you're coming from.

But I think Craven was somehow disregarding NOES 2-6, sort of making New Nightmare a direct sequel.

It's always been known that Craven wasn't exactly happey with Nightmare's sequels, such as in Scream, where Drew Barrymore discusses the series: "Well, the first one was (scary) but the rest sucked."

So I think Craven was only talking about the first movie, because Nancy was the only one that effectively defeated Freddy without having to resort to some kind of violence.

[Andrew Tom]

Ok, I can buy that, but Craven disregarding NOES 3 even though he co-wrote it? that just feels kinda cheap...

[HalloweenShape31]

I cant agree with Wes only talking about the original Nightmare On Elm Street, because when Heather is on the talk show, the host mentions the "five very popular sequels." So Wes was definitely referring to all of the films. And the character of Wes in the film, tells in his scene, that the demon is after her because she was the FIRST to defeat him.

[Andrew Tom]

Oh sorry, my memory fooled me there. But still it does bother me a bit...

[Jason Voorhees]

Oh man I thought NOES1 was great, Didn't think it was boring either. Halloween 1 imo is a flick that is boring and undeserving of It's classic status, I feel that the same can't be said of NOES1.

[This message has been edited by Jason Voorhees (edited 03-21-2002).]

[Michael_myers]

halloween was creepy, i saw the original version, and it was dark and you couldn't really see anything at all, but the digitally remastrered version was spectacular. Great film, and NOES1 was OK, i was being overdramatic. It wasn't exactly horrible.

[Scully1888]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HalloweenShape31:
I cant agree with Wes only talking about the original Nightmare On Elm Street, because when Heather is on the talk show, the host mentions the "five very popular sequels."</font>

True, but a popular movie isn't necessarily a good one. I just had the feeling that Craven thought all six films WERE popular, but the first one was the only good one, with an effective resolution at the end.

[James_Sully_Sullivan]

I just cant agree, I love those movies! (Specially parts 3&4)...what i liked about 'em is the way you don't want to sleep when you've seen it!
noticed Craven focuses on something people has all the time and kills them that way so you get more scared?...Look...

Everyone..............Therefore

Wishes................Wishmaster
Sleeps................ANOES
Has Friends...........Scream
Uses electricity......Shoker

See??

[AlienClown]

Two songs that would have been great to have as part of this series are Manson's Sweet Dreams (yeah I know it came too late) which would have been much cooler to have been used for the first time in a horror movie in an ANOES movie than House On Haunted Hill, and Kix's "Don't Close Your Eyes" which also would have been great for any of the movies. I may be mistaken here as it seems that song really should have been used and the time period was right too, so perhaps it was and I just don't remember...? If that's the case then if someone could please tell me that info that'd be cool, if it wasn't, then my belated request is valid.

[AlienClown]

Anyone......?