RIP John Carpenter

[trouble13]

John Carpenter is one the the genre's all time best directors.... up until about 1990. He just aint got it anymore. I honestly think it's the scripts he chooses to direct more than his dwindling ability, but lets take a look at the pros and cons.

Pros- Halloween, The Thing, Escape from New York, Christine, Big Trouble in Little China, The Fog, & In the Mouth of Madness.

Cons- Village of the Damned, Escape From LA, Ghosts of Mars, & They Live.

Tweeners- Vampires (James Woods is this movies saving grace, without him this would be a definite con) Starman & Memiors of An Invisible Man (both of which are not horror), & Assault on Precinct 13.

There you go. Everything after 1988, with the exception of In the Mouth of Madness is total crap. Although I enjoyed watching most of the films in the cons section, I can identify them for what they are, and that's not worthy of having his name on the them. He needs to be more picky about what scripts he directs, or I'm going to avoid any flcik with his name attached to it

[Boogeyman]

I dunno, I think he still got alot of life in him. Maybe he'll pull a Wes Craven and totally redeem himself.

later

[bowieee]

Holy fucking shit.

This thread scared the poop out of me. I thought Jc had died. whew.

[This message has been edited by bowieee (edited 09-09-2002).]

[stevereno]

oh jesus christ, when i read this topic i thought he died. i almost shit myself!

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

[bowieee]

Ha we both posted at the exact same time mentioning something to do with poop.

[trouble13]

Hey I explained myself. In the Mouth of Madness was good, and the only good thing about Vampires was James Woods. If you replaced him with a lessor actor, it would have knocked the movie down a few pegs. The story has been done before, but James Woods charisma made it more watchable. Everything else he's done has been total SHITE! Beyotch!

[stevereno]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bowieee:
Ha we both posted at the exact same time mentioning something to do with poop. </font>

hey yeah, RAD minds think alike i guess

SHIVER ME TIMBERS

[teenkiller]

I agree that he's in a slump but I'm going to be positive and just wait till he comes around again. Well thats all for now GOoD JOURNEY my fellow schmoes.

[Romero&Juliet]

man, you scared me there for a second.!!!

~~Johnny ain't goin ANYWHERE... in the past ten Years he;s put out some really memorable stuff...Body bags was my fav., but I'm sure I'm not really in the norm.

[pedro]

I read in an interview recently that he is just sitting back now, waiting for the right script to come along. We might not see something for a little while. BTW i didn't think ghosts of mars was too bad... He makes B movies, you just gotta appreciate them for what they are.

[trouble13]

I do appreciate B movies, but Ghosts of Mars sucked Osama Nuts. It was regurgitated material, that has been done before, and better. Besides, it had friggin Ice Cube in it. I kept expecting Devo to show up and help whoop some martian ass.

[Toxferatu]

DONT DO THAT MAN!!!!!!!!! that title scared the shit out of me.


john's gone down hill yeah, but he is still good.

and what is so bad about escape from LA? why does it always get bashed? i dont get it,t hat movie kicks ass. i just want some reasons, not just it sucks ass. give some reasons if you dont like it.

and what the fuck is wrong with they live? its a classic.

[trouble13]

I do appreciate B movies, but Ghosts of Mars sucked Osama Nuts. It was regurgitated material, that has been done before, and better. Besides, it had friggin Ice Cube in it. I kept expecting Devo to show up and help whoop some martian ass, OG style.

[FeydRautha]

As has been said before me - don't scare us like that! The thread title gave me a bad fright. I'm a great devotee of Mr. Carpenter's work, good and bad. I even enjoyed "Escape from L.A.", especially Bruce Campbell's performance as the mad plastic surgeon.

"Body Bags" was a tad hackneyed, but imminently watchable due to Carpenter's in-between-stories stints as the emaciated mortician. (That, and seeing all of his buddies making cameos - Wes Craven, Tobe Hooper, Sam Raimi, etc. Wes Craven as the shaky road-oak buying cigarettes from the gas station was funniest.)

So what if he cast a rapper who's musical star is falling in one of his films? That seems to be all the rage these days - just look at L.L. Cool J in "Deep Blue Sea" and Ice-T in any number of recent low-grade genre flicks.

I don't think John Carpenter's resting on his laurels just yet. He may surprise you one day with a stonking back-to-basics horror flick.

[ICP RULZ]

Sorry everyone,but I think it is quite the opposite. I mean I thought Halloween was the biggest piece of overrated shit on planet earth. I havent seen the Fog yet,but I want to. I enjoyd Ghosts of Mars. I thought it was a fun movie.

[Alan Idol]

Yeah, maybe directors should be put out to pasture before they make a mockery out of their career. People like him, Speilberg, and Lucas should all be 'streilized.

Maybe all of us have only a few good ideas. Who knows.

[Kaos]

He maybe in a slump, but I got to disagree with you that he dosen't have it anymore. Everybody hit a rocky period here and there. Also, I think They Live rocked. It's one of the few movies that has a wrestler in it that's actually decent.

[Toxferatu]

everyone thats bashing his later stuff, LETS SEE YOU DO BETTER AND KEEP IT UP!!!! go on, do it. i wanna see you go on for 20 years and still be able to make movies. go on, go ahead, i'm waiting. lets see your perfect movies.

[Silverload]

In my opinion John Carpenter has never made a crap movie. I have enjoyed all his movies. He has made some plain and average movies and he has made some great movies, but every single one of his films has always been able to entertain me. I think some people are too hard on his movies because it has been awhile since he has really made a great film (7 years). I think we should see some kind of surprise from him in the near future, but if you ever post a topic with a name like this again I will sic all of John Carpenter’s movie villains on you.

[BuzzyOn79]

Carpenter is still the man! I think his newer stuff rocks...I own Vampires and Ghosts of Mars on DVD.

[Spider-man 2]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bowieee:
Holy fucking shit.

This thread scared the poop out of me. I thought Jc had died. whew.

[This message has been edited by bowieee (edited 09-09-2002).]</font>

LOL!! I thought the same...hehe, hehe...ex-exept for the shitting part...hehehehe

**Tries to hide big brown stain in his costume**

[Jason Voorhees]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Toxferatu:
DONT DO THAT MAN!!!!!!!!! that title scared the shit out of me.</font>


lol! Me too man...


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[bulletproof]

JC has never been better,and while some of his later movies have left somthing to be desired,i think he is still one of the best.Sure he fucked up Escape from LA,but Vampires was a return for JC.Ghosts of mars is wayyy underatted.I read a review for it saying that the fight scenes were underdeveloped,but if you ask me they were brutal as all hell,and do we really need to see another matrix style fight.

Vampires and GSOMS prove that JC still has it.

[DeadByDawn]

Shit! For a second I also thought he was dead! Please, don't anyone do that again.

On to the point, Carpenter hasn't lost his touch. He still makes good movies. The only movie made by him I didn't enjoy was Village Of The Damned (yes, I enjoyed Escape From LA despite it's flaws).

Carpenter is the man who got me to study film making. If I graduate and it ends up to my profession, I should thank JC for it.

[knightmaster]

All John Carpeneter movies kick ass even village of the damned and escape from L.A.Ghost of mars really kicked ass and so did They live!Peace out

Anyone who hates Escape from L.A. is no friend of mine.

[Psychocandy]

Goddamnit...I haven't really loved a Carpenter movie in years but my heart actually skipped a beat when I read the title of this thread.

Jeez, man. You're gonna kill a schmoe with that kind of title. I'll be back to comment on Carpenter's career trajectory when I calm the fuck down... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/eek.gif

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[Odd Emu]

Put They Live in Tweeners and you've got it.

[Linus*likes*noise]

oh man! don't scare me like that!

JC/s life flashed before my eyes for a second there!

Good thread advertising duder.

[Grebdron]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alan Idol:
Yeah, maybe directors should be put out to pasture before they make a mockery out of their career. People like him, Speilberg, and Lucas should all be 'streilized.

Maybe all of us have only a few good ideas. Who knows.</font>

Spielberg sterilized??? You smoking dope? I'd pay my last dime to go see his latest effort. I'm not in love with Minority Report, but it was a good movie. Damn, I hope he's got 20 years at least left in him.

[trouble13]

Sorry about all the dilema I've caused you schmoes with my title. I just wanted something that would catch everyones eyes, so you all would read my post, and I could force my opinions down your throats... among other things. And to clarify things a bit, I'll sya it once again.

Ghosts of Mars blew monkey nuts and is not a film worth JC's name.

They live- I Enjoyed this one, and I have even owned it on VHS since the early 90's, but it's second half seems to just give up. Piper did rock though.

JC's Vampires- they were lucky they got James Woods. He's the only reason this movie was enjoyable. The plot sucked.... in fact I'm going to post another thread based solely off this movie.

[Jason Voorhees]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by trouble13:
JC's Vampires- they were lucky they got James Woods. He's the only reason this movie was enjoyable. The plot sucked.... in fact I'm going to post another thread based solely off this movie.</font>


There's a thread about it going on currently here http://www.joblo.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/001083.html

[Requiem-for-a-Dream]

He's still got it, I love most of his flicks.

Assault on Precint 13- 10/10
Halloween- 10/10
Escape From New York- 9/10
The Fog- 9/10
The Thing- 10/10
Prince of Darkness- 10/10
They Live- 8/10
In The Mouth of Madness- 9/10
Vampires- 8/10
Ghosts of Mars- 9/10
Village of the Damned- 6/10
Escape From L.A.- 7/10
Big Trouble in Little China- 8/10
Christine- 8/10
Body Bags- 6/10

Matt

[aixela]

Lay off of John Carpenter...I don't think he has gone downhill. He still entertains and that is the ultimate goal
A little humor in a horror movie is never bad...in fact it adds to the movie as long as it doesn't eclipse it
I personally have enjoyed JC's movies....pretty much about all of them

[knightmaster]

I love all John carpenter movies except for Prince of darkness.Bored the hell out of me.

[Hell Phantom]

scared the shit out of me to...I think a schome needs a good slapping!

[Cyclonus]

I know the title of this thread was referring to Carpenter's career and not the man himself, but you sure scared the shit out of a lot of schmoes.

Sadly, with the way he's taking care of himself, it might come to pass sooner than we thought.

[psychopath]

When I first saw the title of this thread I almost fainted. Thank god hes not dead!!!! He is my fav. director!

But I have not seen any of his latest work so I cant tell if hes going downhill in my point of view.

Anyway,seeyah!

[trouble13]

Come one... he's your favorite director and you haven't seen his recent movies? what have you seen? his recent stuff blows dog! I'd rather gargle monkey jizz than watch Village of the Damned, or Ghosts of Mars!

[Toxferatu]

apperantly trouble wants trouble i guess.

john carpenter is up there with the greats to me, even with the couple mediocer movies(i've never seen one i hated, just though was ok and the others i loved)

[knightmaster]

Prince of darkness was okay.It was'nt scary to me but did have a creepy vibe.The music was awesome and seeing Alice cooper walking around like a zombie was atreat,but to me it was Carpenter's weaekst film.

[pedro]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by trouble13:
Come one... he's your favorite director and you haven't seen his recent movies? what have you seen? his recent stuff blows dog! I'd rather gargle monkey jizz than watch Village of the Damned, or Ghosts of Mars!</font>

Don't say things like that or people might make you do it. God knows i'd like to see someone gargle monkey jizz, but that's just me. So Ghosts of Mars was unoriginal? Well it was a bit, but that doesn't make it bad does it? I guess it does in a way...

Gargle some monkey jizz!