Mr. Deeds

[Irene Manor]

Yes, Adam Sandler acts like a total dipstick. His movies are low brow, and often juvenile. I think it's great, and an infinite times more ballsy than most of the movies that people woo over. His new flick Mister Deeds is coming out, and I can't wait to go to the movies and not have to take things seriously.

Again he plays the LITTLEMAN, this time having inherited a greeting card company. Of course he has to blend in with high society, with what looks from the trailer to be comical results. In this flick he has a very strong supporting cast, including John Tuttoro, Steve Buscemi, Peter Gallagher, and Winona Ryder looking very nice in blonde.

Another thing I've always liked about Sandler movies is the choice of music. They always feature cheesy hair rock of the late 70s and early 80s. This one featured the Journey song "Don't Stop Beleiving" and it fit perfectly.

Sandler movies always treat me well. They are reminders that there are many different sorts of personalities in the world and maybe, just maybe, we are in no position to take all of them seriously.

[SIREN30]

Well, Irene. Obviously this is a remake of the Gary Cooper/Jean Arthur classic Mr Deeds Goes to Town and though I love Adam Sandler in SOME things, that makes me very sad. The original was brilliant (one of my top 100) and I think perfect comedies like it should be UNTOUCHED! I won't go see this for that reason.

[Irene Manor]

Ha! It's not obvious to me. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif I noticed it listed as a movie connection at the IMDb, but didn't look into that movie. Is it really good?

Anyway - You might not like it because it does look like another vehicle to showcase Sandler. Check the trailer out anyway, if you like seeing the guy act like a nutjob.

[Irene Manor]

Any new thoughts?

Im still very hyped on Sandler. I hope he doesn't betray me like a cunning soap opera character.

[beastieben21]

I love a good Sandler film as much as the next man. I'm not a fan of these artistic types that refuse to accept other forms of comedy. I mean, I love Wes Anderson and Woody Allen films, high brow humor. Yet, love Sandler films as well. I for one can't wait for Mr. Deeds, I was dying during the whole "Frostbite" scene.

Irene, weren't you the one stating how Sandler films were like...deeper. I don't recall how it went, but you were discussing the deeper meanings to his films...I think. Care to explain? Odds are I'm off with this one, if so, ignore it.

[XCoRyX]

looks like a typical sandler movie,not that its always bad,but i can and will wait for it on video.

[KornKidJedi]

Winona Ryder is in Mr.Deeds. She might steal every scene in that film.

[This message has been edited by KornKidJedi (edited 05-15-2002).]

[Irene Manor]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by beastieben21:
Irene, weren't you the one stating how Sandler films were like...deeper. I don't recall how it went, but you were discussing the deeper meanings to his films...I think. Care to explain? Odds are I'm off with this one, if so, ignore it.

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Yeah, sort of. I feel that people always gauge Sandler wrong. He plays an idiot, so people think the guy is in idiot. Obviously that is not correct, just as it isn't correct to assume that Tom Cruise is the best at every hobby he takes on (flying, racing cars, etc.)

I think that Sandler films are some of the only ones produced that deal with the theme of the LITTLEMAN triumphing over everyone else without resorting to lesser means. Think of how many movies there are where the geek is being picked on, and becomes cool and wins in the end. Sandler movies aren't that shallow -- In these films, the geek stays a geek, but still does the best that he can, and wins this way. The characters never jeopardize who they are in order to succeed.

To me, this means that Sandler films set a far better example than most conventional triumph stories. In Sandler movies, instead of the "lesser person" learning how to be 'superior", the people who feel superior learn to see the strengths of the "lesser person" and therefore take down the boundries of us and them.

If you notice, in Sandler flicks, the bullies, and stuck-ups are always the antagonist -- And not to say that these movies are the only ones like this. I mean, heck, pretty much every movie in the 80s was like this. The difference is that whereas in others movies the supposed loser teaches everyone and lesson, or changes their ways. In Sandler movies, the loser is accepted for who they are, not who they became.

It is a good example of a positive spirit.

And before anyone thinks -- Hey, you know there are other movies that preach "be yourself". The major difference with Sandler flicks is that the message appears veiled behing what might be seen as mean-spiritness. Scenes like when Ben Stiller was abusing the elderly people, and so forth offer a very unusual element. What I mean by this is that, I beleive that the people whom are seen as antagonists in Sandler flicks may actually like them, because of the style of his humour. Because of this I think Sandler is able to reach the audience that needs to be reached -- The mean-spirited ones who bring the Littleman down.

Sandler may be stupid, but he's not dumb.

I would compare the man to Charlie Chaplin.

[pod2010]

this is going to be a great comedy, i think adam sandler movies are awesome and this one will get over 100 million

p.s. winoda rider looks hot as hell

[inglourious basterd]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Irene Manor:
Sandler may be stupid, but he's not dumb.

I would compare the man to Charlie Chaplin. </font>

You definitely have an interesting point of view, but I dont think that I would agree with your last analogy.

Like Sandler, Chaplin was sort of into slapstick and physical comedy, but he was different in that he often got political. Chaplin played in roles where he satirized the lines between poverty and wealth and Nazis and Jews. On the other hand, Sandler may have had some intention of playing his standard "littleman" role; however, I doubt that his main intention was to satirize society.

I think you have a point, but I respectfully disagree with the "deepness" of his movies. I simply accepted it his movies has ones with relatively standard storylines. However, as long as hes around, I look forward to watching him beat up senior citizens. That being said, I probably wont see this movie at the theaters; however, I think that this would be a great download.

Does anyone know whether it has heavy competition when it is to be released?


[This message has been edited by psudoazn (edited 05-20-2002).]

[Irene Manor]

Psu -- I don't think Sandler is as agressive in his views as Chaplin, however I can't deny that they are there and part of the story.

I too don't think his views are political, like Chaplin, but more so comments on humanity. Though I do think there is a strong support for homosexuality, I think that too is also a social comment than it is a political one.

Much like Chaplin felt that Jews, and immigrants should be treated nicely, Sandler feels that nerds, losers, fat people, and the "lesser" social types should be treated nicely. These feelings show up in both movies, and that is where I make the comparison.

Now, as much as I'd like to think Sandler sits with a writer saying, "Now when he hits that ball, I want the ball to be a metaphore for man's striking a chord to harmonize the balance between the in-crowd and the outcasts." ---- I'm 99.9 and 1/2 percent sure that doesn't go on.

I do, though, think Sandler has very definate feelings about the way people are treated, and I think they show up in his characters -- I respect the hell out of that.

And besides all of that -- The guy is funny in a very humble, and honest way. that's all right by me. I'll try to not sit here and go on endless about why I think there is a second, unexplored layer about the guy, but please look for some of these themes in his characters when you check out his flicks. I'll thank you for it. And Rosco here will thank you for it.

If you can think of anything else you want to add about the guy, or have some examples where he is not doing what I'm saying he's doing, please lay it all me, because I'm getting old, and sometimes I get confused easily.

Here is a list of movies opening on the same day as Mr. Deeds (june 28th):

Hero for a Day
Hey Arnold! The Movie
Lovely & Amazing
Mr. Deeds
Pumpkin


I want to see Pumpkin too, but I'm not aware of those other ones. Anyone got a lowdown. I bet SW: Ep2 or Spiderman is still in the top5. Any takers?

[BitchTits]

I thought his Little Nicky movie was one of the funniest things I've seen in the past 3 years. Dunno why everyone hated it.

[inglourious basterd]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Irene Manor:
I do, though, think Sandler has very definate feelings about the way people are treated, and I think they show up in his characters -- I respect the hell out of that.

And besides all of that -- The guy is funny in a very humble, and honest way. that's all right by me.?</font>

I have to agree with you Irene. The last time I saw a Sandler film was at least six months ago. Thanks for reminding me about that.

Perhaps his message is fairly juvenile; however, it is undeniably there. Good eye..

[inglourious basterd]

Does anyone think that this will be anything new for Sandler? Irene mentioned that this is his typical "littleman" role.

I think, therein, is its problem. It seems to me as if it were a combination of Happy Gilmore and Billy Madison. In fact, on second thought, I think that is exactly what it is.

I enjoyed elements from both (Happy Gilmore is one of my favorite physical comedies), but what if this is simply a rehash? There is only so many times you could say the same thing? What are your thoughts on this?

[Irene Manor]

I agree that he is recycling his characters a bit obviously. I'm going to have to see how the whole relationship with Ryder works out. I think that will be the real variable on this one, because aside from The Wedding Singer, he's never really played a romatic -- Seeing as this movie pits him as a greeting card writer (and has Ryder!!) and that this is heading his upcoming romantic comedy with PT Anderson, we may see a bit more depth as Mr. Deeds. I also sense a bit of his Big Daddy persona creeping through too.


Has anyone heard any reviews on this one yet? I'm sure they'll be fair to mediocre, but I still want an idea of what it's going to be like.

[Haddonfield]

sandler works great as a "normal" guy. The Wedding Singer to me is damn funny. As too is Bulletproof and Happy Gilmore...but i must say he loses me when he goes all out ie The Waterboy (which i did like) Billy Madison (which was cool also) and Little Nicky (one of the worst movies ive ever seen)

so im looking forward to Mr. Deeds and more so Punch-Drunk Love...