~The 'Ultimate Edition' of the Star Wars Trilogy~ [Archive]

APzombie

05-27-2002, 09:07 PM

Whoa, guys check this out...

Dark Horizons is reporting that Natalie Portman will appear on the 'Return of the Jedi' DVD:

"MTV apparently re-iterated rumours that Natalie Portman has signed on to be a part of the new scenes being filmed for Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi - she'll shoot scenes during the production of Episode III which'll then be reinserted to the DVD release of 'Jedi'."

I was suspecting that George Lucas wouldn't let his classic trilogy hit the DVD shelves without some more touch ups, in this case, it looks like were in for more than just cgi ships in the backround and more stormtroopers. Were in for more scenes as well.

Personaly i think its great, i know some people aregoing to be like "Isn't one special re-release enough?"

Well apparently the thousands of fans think its not http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif, and with all the money fox will get from the release of these DVD's (that will be set for the shelves after Episode III gets a home release) why not spend a mill for George to touch up on it anyway? The'll get alot more anyway with the release, esspecialy if its going to have added scenes.

Now back to the reported news, how will Padme end up in ROTJ!?!? I thought only Jedis could come back as a spirit, but it might look like Padme could too, though if she can, why doesent she just go to Aniken (who would now be Darth) and talk him out of the Empire.

Either way i think we will get quite a treat with these 'Ultimate Editions' of the classic trilogy.

Scrunch

05-27-2002, 10:03 PM

My thought is perhaps we'll see a flashback of Leia's memory of her mother. If that happens that means we'll likely see Luke and Leia as young toddlers in Episode III.

However Vader could even have a flashback sequence at the end before he dies.

Scarface98.9

05-27-2002, 10:55 PM

I figure it would be a flashback b4 Vader dies. but just imagine if the Flanneled One inserted Jar Jar Binks in any scenes in the OT. the world would groan

LordKaruku

05-28-2002, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by Scarface98.9:
I figure it would be a flashback b4 Vader dies. but just imagine if the Flanneled One inserted Jar Jar Binks in any scenes in the OT. the world would groan

This same report says that exactly that is going to happen. I'm all for new cuts of films and all, but for fuck's sake...

Kurtz' Killer

05-28-2002, 04:26 AM

I've never spent a dime on video versions of the "Star Wars Trilogy". And the reason is simple: I want the deluxe super special definitive director's outtakes 15-disc jumbo gigantic box set with life-size Sebulba blow-up doll. (You need to save your pennies for these things! How can you guys have been so DUMB?)

vexu

05-28-2002, 05:28 AM

Sure I'd like to watch these ultimate editions but my fear is that Lucas will never release the Original Unenhanced version of the original trilogy... Might just have to stick to my VHS versions then.

inglourious basterd

05-28-2002, 09:32 AM

Originally posted by vexu:
Sure I'd like to watch these ultimate editions but my fear is that Lucas will never release the Original Unenhanced version of the original trilogy... Might just have to stick to my VHS versions then.

Why does it matter though? I dont really understand what the fuss is about? The only difference between the "original" and the "special edition" is a little bit of cgi. I have no doubt that if Lucas had today's technology yesterday, that he would have used it. Why then is it a problem for fans? Is there a rule that says that once a movie comes out, that the editing process must never again be used?

Regardless, I do not feel that passionately about the issue. I just agree with what Lucas had to say about it.

[This message has been edited by psudoazn (edited 05-28-2002).]

MoNsTeR

05-28-2002, 09:43 AM

i agree with psudoazn! why would it matter so much if there was a little bit of cgi touch ups? it's the same movie. you have to admit that the whole scene with HAN SOLO and JABA the hut was totally relevant! it made sense! so like... who cares. you'll end up buying the dvds anyway... so quit bitchen.

cheers!
->jeFF<-

thingsgoinon

05-28-2002, 02:00 PM

Why would she have to be a spirit? Maybe she's still alive.

APzombie

05-28-2002, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by thingsgoinon:
Why would she have to be a spirit? Maybe she's still alive.

Imagine Natalie Portman and Carrie Fisher in the same movie set in the same time, then remind yourself that according to the story, Natalie Portman is Carrie Fishers mother, not even makeup could make anyone believe that.

Americana

05-28-2002, 04:30 PM

I for one can't wait to see what he does to the films. I think that it would be more amazing then ever. I also got this off cinecon.com (http://cinecon.com) which was quite a read. Here it is below:

POSTED ON 05/28/02 AT 12:30 A.M.
BY THOMAS CHAU

We've heard that George Lucas plans to add the Imperial March theme song to the DVD version of "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" as well as a scene featuring Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa before the Alderaan blast scene in the same film...

Now, ComingSoon.net ( http://www.comingsoon.net ) is reporting that series-creator George Lucas told MTV that he plans to add a scene featuring Natalie Portman to the DVD version of "Return of the Jedi." Portman will film this scene while filming "Episode III," which begins production next year.

My guess is that the scene in question would be added to the celebration sequence at the end. Still, though, this reveals that her character may survive throughout all the episodes.

We've heard that George Lucas plans to add the Imperial March theme song to the DVD version of "Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope" as well as a scene featuring Jimmy Smits as Bail Organa before the Alderaan blast scene in the same film...

I think this would be cool to see in A New Hope, because they never showed Alderaan from the inside just before it blew up. Plus it would be cool to see Bail Organa in A New Hope as well. Too Bad he had to die though. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Scrunch

05-28-2002, 04:58 PM

In ROTJ Leia tells Luke that her mother died when she was very young. Any scenes of Natalie Portman would have to be flashbacks.

There's another thread on this topic that I just commented on so I won't rehash but I'm really hoping that someone somewhere talks Lucas into releasing the pure true originals as well when the DVDs finally come out.

Reed Richards

05-28-2002, 05:01 PM

The only thing that chaps me about this is that in addition to buying the video tapes before they got released with the extra scenes I bought the "Definitive Star Wars Collection" on laser disc. Lucas or someone knew that while they were marketing this "definitive" set they were preparing to re-release all 3 with the new scenes to be followed shortly with video verstion. They knew is wouldn't be definitive and they still sold it as such. The set cost almost $300. If you look definitive up in the dictionary it can't be improved on. Anyone want a class action suit? Maybe we could get the next definitive set for free or a weekend at Skywalker ranch.

[This message has been edited by Reed Richards (edited 05-28-2002).]

05-28-2002, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Reed Richards:
The only thing that chaps me about this is that in addition to buying the video tapes before they got released with the extra scenes I bought the "Definitive Star Wars Collection" on laser disc. Lucas or someone knew that while they were marketing this "definitive" set they were preparing to re-release all 3 with the new scenes to be followed shortly with video verstion. They knew is wouldn't be definitive and they still sold it as such. The set cost almost $300. If you look definitive up in the dictionary it can't be improved on. Anyone want a class action suit? Maybe we could get the next definitive set for free or a weekend at Skywalker ranch.

The Trades Description Act springs to mind...

bankholdup

05-28-2002, 06:49 PM

That man is so fucking fat and gay. And his hair is stupid. Why would he put Padme in it? Is he intentionally trying to fuck it up? I think this is a horrible idea and he can lick my ass.

BTW, I didn't bother to read any other posts besides the first one, so if this has been brought up or somebody said something relating to that, then sorry.

thingsgoinon

05-28-2002, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by APzombie:
Imagine Natalie Portman and Carrie Fisher in the same movie set in the same time, then remind yourself that according to the story, Natalie Portman is Carrie Fishers mother, not even makeup could make anyone believe that.

No one knows whats going to happen to Amidala yet... she doesn't have to appear with Fisher.

thingsgoinon

05-28-2002, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by Scrunch:
In ROTJ Leia tells Luke that her mother died when she was very young. Any scenes of Natalie Portman would have to be flashbacks.

There's another thread on this topic that I just commented on so I won't rehash but I'm really hoping that someone somewhere talks Lucas into releasing the pure true originals as well when the DVDs finally come out.

There's no evidence as yet that the woman Leia assumed to be her mother WAS her mother.Tho I recall she says something about her "looking sad"...so that would fit...

05-28-2002, 07:04 PM

I think people are reading too much into this. Heck ,it may not even be true - I've learned how quickly rumours fly around, and how people actually believe them, but, if I see the word "official" then, it's ok (by an official spokesperson).

Anyways - If it were true, she would not be alive in Episode VI.

Episode III is going to be tragic due to a number of things - Including Padme's death. She will die, without doubt.
Why would they give her reason to live by the time of ROTJ? It makes things run a little less smoothly and is a little lame, in my opinion.
Like people have already mentioned - If she appears, it will probably be via flash-back, but this isn't a very "Star Wars thing" to do.

Americana

05-29-2002, 05:47 AM

Originally posted by ak:
Anyways - If it were true, she would not be alive in Episode VI.

Episode III is going to be tragic due to a number of things - Including Padme's death. She will die, without doubt.
Why would they give her reason to live by the time of ROTJ? It makes things run a little less smoothly and is a little lame, in my opinion.

Like people have already mentioned - If she appears, it will probably be via flash-back, but this isn't a very "Star Wars thing" to do.

How do you know for sure yet that she will die before Episode IV ack??? Nothing is offical yet so things could go ether way. I for one wouldn't mind seeing Luke & Leia's Mother in A New Hope although I wouldn't want it to be Portman. I mean don't get me wrong here, she is a hottie and a perfect match as Luke & Leia's Mother but the older her would not show goos with Portman as Padme because she's too young and I highly doubt that they could make her look as old as she would have to look during that time. Sorry Lucas but it just would be good to go that way.

I'm a major Star Wars Fanboy here but I'm gonna have give this a Thumbs Down If it were true. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

bskutle

05-29-2002, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by Americana:

How do you know for sure yet that she will die before Episode IV ack??? Nothing is offical yet so things could go ether way. I for one wouldn't mind seeing Luke & Leia's Mother in A New Hope although I wouldn't want it to be Portman. I mean don't get me wrong here, she is a hottie and a perfect match as Luke & Leia's Mother but the older her would not show goos with Portman as Padme because she's too young and I highly doubt that they could make her look as old as she would have to look during that time. Sorry Lucas but it just would be good to go that way.

I'm a major Star Wars Fanboy here but I'm gonna have give this a Thumbs Down If it were true. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/frown.gif

Well, if you recall in "Episode VI," Leia also says that her mother died when she was very young, so assuming that Padme and the mother Leia remembers in "Episode VI" are the same- which I think they are- Padme would of course have to die in "Episode III."

As for the "Ultimate Editions" in general, it'll all be for naught if Lucas does not also give us the original versions on DVD as well.

Reed Richards

05-29-2002, 10:42 AM

I think it would be a mistake to even show the children in Episode 3. They should show her pregnant and go into hiding. If the viewer never knows there is a boy AND girl then they will still wonder who "the other" is that Yoda mention in "Empire". Episode 3 doesn't even have to show her pregnant. He can turn evil and she can go into hiding at the end without anyone or at least Anikan knowing she is pregnant. "A New Hope" can just be many years later. This way they can preserve the surprises through all six.

Sowen

05-29-2002, 01:04 PM

I really don't think Padme is going to die in Episode 3, mainly because Leia does remember her in ROTJ. You must remeber Vador doesn't know until IV that he has a son and VI that he has a daughter therefore unless they are going to start 3 after Padme has left Anakin, had the children, and hid them or 3 is going to take place over a long period of time there is no way Padme will die in 3.(unless of course the person Leia remembers is not Padme)

Americana

05-29-2002, 05:22 PM

This is for all of you that keep saying she is going to die in Episode III: She is NOT going to die okay. How would her Daughter Leia remember her if she die when Luke and Leia was only a baby???

I don't think you guys get that other wise you wouldn't be saying that she will die in III. I think that somehow for her protection she will give Leia to not only Bail her foster father but also make it seem like she died so nobody would ever trace her back to Leia. That's what I think would be a good plan.

APzombie

05-29-2002, 05:59 PM

We have no idea if she will die or live in Episode III, we know she will die while Lia and Luke are infants, thats it!

My guess it that she will die, but theres no evidence at all for me to prove it so i will leave it as a guess.

What do we expect or want in the 'Ultimate Edition' of the Trilogy?

my brief list

~Greedo NOT shooting first (ANH)

~for the fans, maybee if done right the zarlack spiting bobba fett out after swalowing him, maybe as a easter egg on the dvd and not in the movie or somthing (as told in books and comics) (ROTJ)

i'll think of more later...

thingsgoinon

05-29-2002, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by Americana:
This is for all of you that keep saying she is going to die in Episode III: She is NOT going to die okay. How would her Daughter Leia remember her if she die when Luke and Leia was only a baby???

I don't think you guys get that other wise you wouldn't be saying that she will die in III. I think that somehow for her protection she will give Leia to not only Bail her foster father but also make it seem like she died so nobody would ever trace her back to Leia. That's what I think would be a good plan.

No you are the one who is "not getting it".As has been noted on this and prob a zillion other threads, it is NEVER said in RotJ that the woman Leia REMEMBERS is Padme....what part of that don't YOU understand?

That was a little uglier in tone than intended. After thinking it over tho, I am tending to go along with the "flashback" theories...there is a moment in RotJ when Leia hesitates during Lukes revelation to her...a couple times she hesitates....perfect "slip in a flashback" moment.

I don't see how she could be a spirit since she's not a Jedi...unless....oh no, lets not give him any ideas..

It's either gonna be a flashback, or somehow she survived and their gonna show her in old age....

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05-29-2002, 06:27 PM

Whatever the arguments on either side, it is absolutely certain that we will not be seeing Padme as a much older woman in Episode III.
Why? Well, by the time of Return Of The Jedi, thirty years (more or less) would have passed since Episode III. There would be absolutely no point in putting Natalie Portman in make-up to make her look fifty years old.

So. If she's in there, it'll be in a dream/flash-back type thing.

Oh - And she probably will die in Episode III - It makes the romance tragic, which is exactly what all this is leading to.
Fans can argue the heck over when the kids were born and who saw who, but she will die, of that I am certain.

Scrunch

05-29-2002, 06:41 PM

If she doesn't die in III there's always a chance that we'll see a flashback in ROTJ of Leia remembering her dying mother. In the flashback we might see a younger Leia but Natalie would be mostly fine age wise.

There's a lot of ways that this could go.

thingsgoinon

05-29-2002, 06:53 PM

Has anyone been able to confirm wether or not this is all just a rumor or not? I mean is there vid or an actual transcript of this supposed interview with Lucas anywhere?

05-29-2002, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by thingsgoinon:
Has anyone been able to confirm wether or not this is all just a rumor or not? I mean is there vid or an actual transcript of this supposed interview with Lucas anywhere?

This is what I stated above. It could all be bullshit rumour.
Remember the N-Sync rumour for Episode II? That infuriated people on the net for weeks, and it never even happened!
Expect things like this to happen many times over until Episode III. Trust me, I've been on the net long enough to know.

Americana

05-30-2002, 06:37 AM

Well, I don't know about you but I do read all of the Comic admentation's and if you read the Star Wars timeline (Which is found on Hundreds if not thousands of Fanboy website) You'd see that in the timeline it shows that after the downfall of the Empire and Second Death (In Dark Empire I & II and Empire's End) of the Emperor we see that Luke Skywalker will go searching for his Mother (That's right his Mother)..... And find her.

So if all of that is wrong and she does die in III then howcome Lucas would let the writers make comic's about that. Note: All major comic storyline's must pass thru him before it can be sold to the public: end Note. But hey if I'm wrong then fine don't beat me to death with those mean posts, But... If I'm right, then no biggie either. Who cares right.

APzombie

05-30-2002, 01:26 PM

Nice input Americana, now it should be really interesting to see what happens... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

As for the false speculations of this rumor in comparison with the NSYNC rumor for Attack of the Clones, remember that it was very true that they would appear, but Lucas stated (even in the official site) that due to many negative vibes he cut the idea. So you can't say that rumor was not true, it was, it just didn't make it to the final cut.

You can read what ign.com think about the idea here- http://filmforce.ign.com/starwars/articles/361/361025p1.html

05-30-2002, 05:43 PM

APzombie - You seem to be confusing the rumours with actual fact.

Rick McCallum has stated several times that the band were shooting a video or something near the Fox. lot and popped along to meet some of the cast and crew - The word spread that they were on the set and everything went balls-up. They were never in the film, it's all bullshit, as McCallum put it so well.

bigred760

05-30-2002, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by Kurtz' Killer:
I've never spent a dime on video versions of the "Star Wars Trilogy". And the reason is simple: I want the deluxe super special definitive director's outtakes 15-disc jumbo gigantic box set with life-size Sebulba blow-up doll. (You need to save your pennies for these things! How can you guys have been so DUMB?)

That goes for me too.

APzombie

05-30-2002, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by ak:
APzombie - You seem to be confusing the rumours with actual fact.

Rick McCallum has stated several times that the band were shooting a video or something near the Fox. lot and popped along to meet some of the cast and crew - The word spread that they were on the set and everything went balls-up. They were never in the film, it's all bullshit, as McCallum put it so well.

whoa, wait a sec. I thought the part of them visiting the set was true, and when they were on the set Lucas asked them to have a cameo in his movie for his daughter, i read like 8 dfferent reports with qoutes from Lucas stating that he concidered it but then the fans broke the barrier and he cut the idea. I know that they never shot anything for the movie, but i thought the rumor was that Lucas was concidering it until most of the world tapped his shoulder and told him it wasn't a good idea. Hell, it was in the papers and the news for like 3 weeks, wouldn't Lucas would have told the press long before if they were just visiting?

LordKaruku

05-31-2002, 01:03 AM

As for a source, the interview appeared in The Star Wars Insider the official Lucasfilm fan magazine, so it's definitely legit. Various website posted the excerpt in question from the interview -- for example, here: http://www.comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/archive/fullnews.cgi?newsid1022519503,99742,

And to Monster and pseudozan -- I think the distinction is very important and significant, and explain why here: http://www.joblo.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/005723.html if you're interested.

But to take one reason, how can you appreciate the special effects wizardry that ILM was able to pull off in '77, when any given shot may have been touched up or altered with computers 20 years later? I think it's an insult to all the artists who made it such a groundbreaking film in the first place.

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05-31-2002, 08:26 AM

I doubt very much that it was true. I actually believe Rick McCallum more than rumours in the papers (since when does anyone believe papers?)

The U.K documentary "Omnibus" had an interview with McCallum and he stated that it was "bullshit". which was also in Empire film magazine.

APzombie

05-31-2002, 02:10 PM

Hey, i like Rick, hes a cool guy and he is usually honest.

Remember though, he was the first one to say the Hugh Jackman would be in Episode III, he was quoted and he said it on tape at the star wars celebration 2, then like 2 weeks later somoene asked him about it and he said it was a false rumor.

APzombie

06-01-2002, 06:00 PM

oh boy...

Aint it cool sayd that Jar-Jar will a apperance in a New Hope with the Ultimo edtion for the dvd release of star wars... red it here- http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=12360

~its not true... its not true... its not true... its not true... its not true... its not true...~

just posted this for the hell of it, boy rumors get out of hand some times, why did they put this on Aint it Cool, they know that Lucas wouldn't let that happen???

Mr. Orange

06-01-2002, 06:51 PM

It would not bother me seeing Jar Jar in the old trilogy. Am I the olny person in the entire world who thinks that he is not that bad? Sure he was a little annoying in Episode 1 but he was put in to please the kiddies. I think that if Lucas wants to put him in the old trilogy, I trust him.

Americana

06-02-2002, 01:34 PM

Trust me Zombie, Jar Jar Binks will not make it to the old trilogy because he WILL die in Episode III. And if he does not, I swear to everyone I know that I will kill him my self. Really... I will pack my bags hop on a plane, fly down there and kill Jar Jar my bloody ass self..... Nice... And... Slow. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Scorchlord

06-02-2002, 02:10 PM

This is the type of news that makes me wonder if George Lucas has an IQ over 100.

Mr. Orange

09-26-2002, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by Americana
Trust me Zombie, Jar Jar Binks will not make it to the old trilogy because he WILL die in Episode III. And if he does not, I swear to everyone I know that I will kill him my self. Really... I will pack my bags hop on a plane, fly down there and kill Jar Jar my bloody ass self..... Nice... And... Slow. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Yeah well Obi Wan and Darth Vader die and they still make appearances. So I wouldn't rule it out.

Terrell

09-30-2002, 03:16 AM

It is quite funny that you guys go apesh*t over unconfirmed rumors. Haven't you guys learned anything about the internet? 99% of what the internet reports is BS! So quite going nuts.

Rick McCallum answered this exact question on starwars.com. He said and I quote.

I've heard rumors that Natalie Portman has shot scenes that will be inserted in to some future release of Return of the Jedi. Is this true?

What planet are you from? No. There would be no reason to do that.... unless maybe we could find that metal bikini! ;)

So relax, and stop believing everything on the internet. This reminds me of all the N'Sync garbge, and they weren't even in the film.

APzombie

09-30-2002, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Terrell
It is quite funny that you guys go apesh*t over unconfirmed rumors. Haven't you guys learned anything about the internet? 99% of what the internet reports is BS! So quite going nuts.

When you enter a Star Wars forum, you'll be expecting rumors galore. It's fun to talk about them, and like you said 99% of rumors arn't true, so why not discuss which of the rumors we you think will fit in that one percent.

You'll be suprised by how many things in Episode II started as just an internet rumor.

shifty

06-08-2003, 03:33 AM

Originally posted by APzombie
We have no idea if she will die or live in Episode III, we know she will die while Lia and Luke are infants, thats it!

My guess it that she will die, but theres no evidence at all for me to prove it so i will leave it as a guess.

What do we expect or want in the 'Ultimate Edition' of the Trilogy?

my brief list

~Greedo NOT shooting first (ANH)

~for the fans, maybee if done right the zarlack spiting bobba fett out after swalowing him, maybe as a easter egg on the dvd and not in the movie or somthing (as told in books and comics) (ROTJ)

i'll think of more later...

can i just ask a quick question?,..ok ,i will then,..What is the big deal about Greedo shooting first??,.. this seems to be a major concern for a lot of people on this forum,..i watched ANH last night on T.V(sorry) and it had Greedo shooting first,..obviously Greedo misses Han ,..but is it such a big deal.If someone could tell me why this such sacrilige i would be gratefull,.,...ta
:)

APzombie

06-08-2003, 10:15 AM

Personally, i don't mind that much that he shot first, but i just like how they introduced Han as a guy on his toes, not a guy who only acts in self defence.

Nachokoolaid

06-08-2003, 06:04 PM

What if she didn't die, and she was still alive, and they were hiding her from Vader, and she was hiding out on...ALDERAN!!! Damn, they couldn't have picked a worse choice could they?

surf_wax_stud

06-10-2003, 11:42 PM

Darth Noog

06-11-2003, 10:40 PM

Personally I think this is all B/S. Are we forgetting a few things here. No. 1 Leia tells Luke her mother died when she was very young, and even if this woman was not Padme there is a fair chance Padme got cooked with everyone else when Alderaan bit the dust in ANH.
No. 2 Padme will die in Ep. 3. She has to. We all seen a teaser of Anakins rage when he found his mother dead. I think Padme dying will be the last catalysis to push him to the dark side.

If he is going to tinker with the original trilogy again, I hope he does something with the Rancor scene in ROTJ. It looks a little to fake by todays standards:cool:

shifty

06-12-2003, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by surf_wax_stud
I think part of the problem is the scene never needed to be altered in the first place, The whole cantina scene was perfect as is... I also think the original scene makes Han Solo look more hardcore and sneaky. Solo seems alot more mysterious in the original cut.

If anyone likes the solo/greedo scene from the special editions more power to them, it's just a shame to mess with perfection, that's where the problem is.

Peace,
Surf

yeah,.i suppose it makes Han look a little less hardcore,..but then he is after all a good guy,..maybe that's why GL made Greedo shot first,........am i right in believing that it is a young Greedo that the young Anakin has a spat with in The Phantom Menace,..and Mr Lucas cut some of it,...to stop Anakin looking as if he was the bad guy ?

rilocay

08-03-2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Terrell
This reminds me of all the N'Sync garbge, and they weren't even in the film.

Because the scenes witht em were cut out due to the rage fans had against them beingin it. (its on here in another thread)

havokeff

05-07-2004, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by shifty
can i just ask a quick question?,..ok ,i will then,..What is the big deal about Greedo shooting first??,.. this seems to be a major concern for a lot of people on this forum,..i watched ANH last night on T.V(sorry) and it had Greedo shooting first,..obviously Greedo misses Han ,..but is it such a big deal.If someone could tell me why this such sacrilige i would be gratefull,.,...ta
:)

Ok this is why.
Han Solo is introduced as this gritty, cocky, greedy bastard of a character. He is a CRIMINAL. He is a MURDERER. But as the story of ANH goes along, and remeber, when it was fisrt made, THERE WERE NO PLANS FOR A SEQUEL, he is supposed to find his way back to the side of good, finalized by him comming to Luke's aide and helping to destroy the Death Star.
This is a microcosim of the overall story of Anakin.

So when George, after 20 years of growth and softening up, changed Han's entire persona, by having Greedo's death become an act of self defence rather than just murder, he changed a major aspect of Han. Basically changed his whole history in one stroke. It takes so much away from the movie as well. Instead of seeing the progression back to good, you know it's already going to happen and that all his bluster is just a ruse.

Of course this is just my 2

havokeff

05-07-2004, 04:55 PM

WOO HOOO I just made JUINIOR SCHMOE!!!

APzombie

05-09-2004, 01:32 PM

Well said havokeff.

Mr. Fred Krueger

05-09-2004, 06:40 PM

Originally posted by rilocay
Because the scenes witht em were cut out due to the rage fans had against them being in it. (its on here in another thread)

What's funny is that he cut them out due to fan reaction, and they still bitch and say, "He doesn't give a shit about the fans."

:rolleyes: