View Full Version : Secret news about Star Wars Episode 3!!!!!
Shane the Brain
06-30-2002, 03:59 PM
I've heard from some very good sources that Yoda dies in this one. I know what you're thinking, Yoda dies in Episode 6 but I've read somewhere that Yoda lived on in another body of the same species, like Yaddle. Yes, Yoda's fate might be a dark one.
Common Sense Man
06-30-2002, 04:22 PM
It has to be true, it was on the Internet.
Out.....................
[SD] Bob Plisskin
06-30-2002, 04:32 PM
so what are these very good sources? HP? Daddies?
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James Logan
06-30-2002, 05:05 PM
Shane...how to tell you...
I don't think so, buddy. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
I agree with Common Sense Man - People read things on the net, and automatically think they are true. I don't know how many times I've read "Well, it was on IMDB, and it's true".
Trust me, I've been on the net long enough to realise that 95% of rumours are total crap. I remember the rumours for The Phantom Menace and hardly a single one came true into the final film.
Cyclonus
06-30-2002, 07:44 PM
I really don't think that will happen. At this point, the whole planet knows he'll survive till Episode 6, so what would be the point? However, we might expect him to suffer injuries, to have a brush with death.
Scarface98.9
06-30-2002, 07:52 PM
I wouldn't put it past Lucas to do that. lord knows he already has many weird loose ends already
Horror whore
06-30-2002, 10:27 PM
Scarface - He'll probably tie up all of those "wierd loose ends" in Episode III...
Lennis
07-01-2002, 02:59 AM
Hey Shane, have you heard the one about Ben Kenobi being a clone of the original Obi-Wan Kenobi? I heard this one years ago...on the internet.
APzombie
07-01-2002, 07:46 AM
Since the internet first came out i heard some messed up shit in my time, but this has got to be the wierdest news on a movie ever!
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Lennis:
Hey Shane, have you heard the one about Ben Kenobi being a clone of the original Obi-Wan Kenobi? I heard this one years ago...on the internet.</font>
That's true....I heard a lot of times that The Clone War was based on Jedi's Clones!!!
I don't know.....this thing about Yoda diying seems like the typical Internet Crap.
James Logan
07-02-2002, 02:32 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Scarface98.9:
I wouldn't put it past Lucas to do that. lord knows he already has many weird loose ends already</font>
Yeah, he'd probably say "if they can clone Jango, they can clone Yoda. And besides, how do you think he could have lived 900 years, huh?" to make us believe that. Knowing Lucas...he actually could. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Still, it's highly unlikely anything like this will happen. HIGHLY unlikely.
[SD] Bob Plisskin
07-02-2002, 04:24 PM
unless it turns out that the Yoda in eps 1-3 was an evil twin who it turns out in ep3 plotted the demise of the jedis so that he could be ruler of the universe, in a fit of anger Anakin kills him and turns into darth vader. Then the good yoda is found on the swamp planet where he has been imprisoned, but it's too late for Anakin, dun dun duuuun!
<OB>
The swamp planet Yoda lives on in the original trilogy is the former Naboo. There will probably be a scene where the planet is being evacuated, but Yoda will refuse to leave. Probably planning to die, but of course doesn't. Luke said in TESB that it looked familiar. HE DREAMED ABOUT IT AND HE WAS BORN THERE!
SLAW - You're entirely wrong about the planet. The planet Yoda lived on was called Degobah, a swamp planet that he retreats to in order to hide from the Emperor and Vader, and the rest of the Empire.
Naboo may very well be destroyed somehow in Episode III, as Rick McCallum said the film will include an "armageddon" of some kind. It won't be destroyed by the Death Star though, that's a fact.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ak:
SLAW - You're entirely wrong about the planet. The planet Yoda lived on was called Degobah, a swamp planet that he retreats to in order to hide from the Emperor and Vader, and the rest of the Empire.
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The name changed it was.
It's absolutely not Naboo.
Why would Yoda stay on a planet that the Empire were so keen to destroy, ot so focussed on? The whole point of Degobah is that's it's far away from the Empire, and that Yoda's force can't be felt as strongly.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ak:
It's absolutely not Naboo.
Why would Yoda stay on a planet that the Empire were so keen to destroy, ot so focussed on? The whole point of Degobah is that's it's far away from the Empire, and that Yoda's force can't be felt as strongly.</font>
The Empire changed addresses. I very well could be wrong and I also could very well be right. We'll see won't we? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif
James Logan
07-03-2002, 01:35 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ak:
Naboo may very well be destroyed somehow in Episode III, as Rick McCallum said the film will include an "armageddon" of some kind. It won't be destroyed by the Death Star though, that's a fact.</font>
I still don't understand how Naboo can be destroyed in EPIII. After all, in A NEW HOPE, it's said several times no weapon can destroy an entire planet, and that's even why Han Solo doesn't believe in the Death Star's threat in the beginning.
Slaw's idea sounds possible, and somehow, logical. Maybe the Sith won't be able to destroy the planet so the "armageddon" will be turning it into an almost dead swamp planet. And it would explain why the planet seems familiar to Luke in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.
Still, there's the name problem, and then there's: why would Yoda stay on that planet? Maybe because he knows Sidous and Vader think it's destroyed and unfit for living. Maybe because he's stupid. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif I dunno.
ColinM
07-03-2002, 03:54 PM
This thread name should be changed to "The most fucked up false rumors you'll ever hear about Star Wars Episode 3!!!!!"
When I said "destroyed", I should have been more clear. Sorry.
I meant that it probably won't be entirely oblitorated, but some kind of mass war could take place on it. Perhaps even the end of the Clone War may have some devastating effect on the planet.
And let me clear up why I firmly believe that Degobah is definately not the former Naboo:
Because, simply put, the "universe" that these characters live in would seem too small. I like to think that this universe has many diverse, tucked away little planets, and it all adds to the magical experience of the films.
Also - The fact that Yoda hides away in a planet far from power makes his existence seem that much more tragic. He came from the ultimate power background but was left with nothing. The theory that it's Naboo, frankly, is totaly bull-shit to me.
Didn't they just say that it was the Degobah system not planet. If it was Naboo, then maybe the emperor just assumed it was uninhabited and therefore nothing to worry about. Wouldn't Yoda staying where his home is and giving up his power for it also be tragic?
Naboo was not Yoda's home planet. As it stands, his temporary home planet was Coruscant, where the Jedi Temple was.
As of now, very little is known about Yoda's species. Apparently, we'll find out more about the species in Episode III, which may add to his reasons for moving to Degobah.
My guess is that Yoda was the last of his species. 800 years (I believe it was) is a long time. What about Anakin's father? You don't really buy that whole "there was no father" crap Shmi fed us? Anakin is not Jesus! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif If anything, Dooku will be Anakin's father. Did you see the look on his face after he cut off his arm. He looked mordified at what he had done. He also could have gone in for the kill after that, but he just pushed him away. Then again, he was probably under strict orders to keep Anakin alive, so he could be swayed.
James Logan
07-04-2002, 02:49 PM
Dooku is NOT Anakin's father. Jesus Christ, that sounds like a bad re-hash of the "I am your father" twist of the original trilogy. It just won't happen.
And yes, the "there is no father" explanation is a good explanation. In every cult, religion and myth there is, the Chosen One is very often born without a father. Jesus was born without a father, indeed, but it's not limited to christianity: Merlin (who was the Chosen One for uniting the kingdom of England) was born without a father, and that's just one example among dozens. So the symbolism of Anakin being born without a father, or with pure Force as his "father" (metaphor to the Holy Spirit), fits.
[SD] Bob Plisskin
07-04-2002, 02:57 PM
yoda's his dad, muppets need love too.
"father I am of you"
<OB>
[This message has been edited by [SD] Bob Plisskin (edited 07-04-2002).]
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by James Logan:
Dooku is NOT Anakin's father. Jesus Christ, that sounds like a bad re-hash of the "I am your father" twist of the original trilogy. It just won't happen.
And yes, the "there is no father" explanation is a good explanation. In every cult, religion and myth there is, the Chosen One is very often born without a father. Jesus was born without a father, indeed, but it's not limited to christianity: Merlin (who was the Chosen One for uniting the kingdom of England) was born without a father, and that's just one example among dozens. So the symbolism of Anakin being born without a father, or with pure Force as his "father" (metaphor to the Holy Spirit), fits.</font>
Anakin was eveil God damit! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif How can a "chosen one" become so evil? Wouldn't they be stronger then that? He becomes the emperor's bitch! If anything Luke was the "chosen one." Then again, that could meant they would have had to start with Anakin for the gene pool. But I don't think so. The force is strong in that family.
SLAW - Do you pay attention to the films?
As the Jedi Council state, they sense a lot of fear in Anakin. He had fear because he'd left his mother, and was going off in the big wide universe to become a Jedi. This caused a lot of upset feelings in him.
His seed was powerful. He is the one. It's just he leans the wrong way through, really, no fault of his own. He was manipulated and corrupted. It was the will of the Force that made him become who he was.
I think the idea of Anakin having a father is faintly ridiculous. It's just another re-hashed idea that's been around since before Episode I came out.
Bottom Line: Anakin was good once, although his future was uncertain.
[This message has been edited by ak (edited 07-04-2002).]
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ak:
SLAW - Do you pay attention to the films?
As the Jedi Council state, they sense a lot of fear in Anakin. He had fear because he'd left his mother, and was going off in the big wide universe to become a Jedi. This caused a lot of upset feelings in him.
His seed was powerful. He is the one. It's just he leans the wrong way through, really, no fault of his own. He was manipulated and corrupted. It was the will of the Force that made him become who he was.
I think the idea of Anakin having a father is faintly ridiculous. It's just another re-hashed idea that's been around since before Episode I came out.
Bottom Line: Anakin was good once, although his future was uncertain.
[This message has been edited by ak (edited 07-04-2002).]</font>
His Mother??? That's so Freudian. I'm not with my mom, so that will make me evil. I could have gone to see her if the desire to do so came up earlier. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif If he was truely meant to bring balance, then he would have had some dam will power! However, this is a man made film. Stupid humans! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
The Heart Collector
07-04-2002, 10:10 PM
This isn't the MATRIX with some fucking stone-faced, emotionless moron as the chosen one. it's a real character with real flaws.
James Logan
07-05-2002, 02:39 PM
SLAW, it's not because Anakin is the Chosen One that he has to be good. I mean, what is the mission of the Chosen One, after all? In a lot of books and novelizations, it's written no Jedi really knows for sure because the prophecy is so old and unclear. But if you look at the movies it can mean two things:
1°) The Chosen One is simply the most powerful Jedi ever, the living being with the highest midi-chlorian count in history. If that's the case, then he can be a nice guy, or a Dark Side bad-ass, it doesn't matter: what matters is that he's the most powerful out there.
***or***
2°) The Chosen One is the one who will "bring balance to the Force". That means bringing balance between the Bright Side and the Dark Side, and that's exactly what Anakin will do as he becomes Darth Vader. As we all know there are only two Sith lords at a same time, but there's hundreds of Jedis: the Force isn't balanced. But once Anakin / Vader kills all the Jedi, all that is left is two Sith (Palpatine and Vader) and two Jedi (Obi-Wan and Yoda, then Yoda and Luke). So in fact he DOES accomplish the prophecy, fully.
Thinking that a "Chosen One" automatically has to be a nice and good hero because he his the Chosen One is a false assumption. He is the Chosen One because he was CHOSEN for a particular mission, be it good or evil, important or not. So Anakin can very well be the chosen one, even if he's an "evil God", as you put it.
There...hope that cleared everything up. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif
ColinM
07-05-2002, 02:56 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by James Logan:
SLAW, it's not because Anakin is the Chosen One that he has to be good. I mean, what is the mission of the Chosen One, after all? In a lot of books and novelizations, it's written no Jedi really knows for sure because the prophecy is so old and unclear. But if you look at the movies it can mean two things:
1°) The Chosen One is simply the most powerful Jedi ever, the living being with the highest midi-chlorian count in history. If that's the case, then he can be a nice guy, or a Dark Side bad-ass, it doesn't matter: what matters is that he's the most powerful out there.
***or***
2°) The Chosen One is the one who will "bring balance to the Force". That means bringing balance between the Bright Side and the Dark Side, and that's exactly what Anakin will do as he becomes Darth Vader. As we all know there are only two Sith lords at a same time, but there's hundreds of Jedis: the Force isn't balanced. But once Anakin / Vader kills all the Jedi, all that is left is two Sith (Palpatine and Vader) and two Jedi (Obi-Wan and Yoda, then Yoda and Luke). So in fact he DOES accomplish the prophecy, fully.
Thinking that a "Chosen One" automatically has to be a nice and good hero because he his the Chosen One is a false assumption. He is the Chosen One because he was CHOSEN for a particular mission, be it good or evil, important or not. So Anakin can very well be the chosen one, even if he's an "evil God", as you put it.
There...hope that cleared everything up. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif</font>
Great post, Logan. You kick ass. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
That's some fucked up shit right there. So it just tells you that we must fulfill are destiny regadless of whether we live a good life, or not?
James Logan
07-05-2002, 09:55 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by SLAW:
That's some fucked up shit right there. So it just tells you that we must fulfill are destiny regadless of whether we live a good life, or not? </font>
Nah, it just tells you that being considered as the Chosen One doesn't make everything you do automatically right.
Americana
07-06-2002, 01:09 AM
Amen Logan, Amen. lol.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by James Logan:
Nah, it just tells you that being considered as the Chosen One doesn't make everything you do automatically right.
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Does anyone think that George Lucas is a genious for letting us try and figure this stuff out on our own, or is he not the best story teller?
Ok, I still think Degobah might (just might) be the former Naboo after its dimise. I however can't explain why Vader or Palpatein couldn't feel Yoda's presence. Perhaps it can be explained in EP 111.
APzombie
10-01-2002, 11:35 PM
I have to say some idea's are interesting, like Degobah being the former Naboo, but so many options have been ruled out due to run-offs in the Star Wars Universe, and ultimatley, have to be canceled out. Books and comics have detailed histories of characters and planets that have only graced the screen of the first three Star Wars movies.
All i hope for in Episode III is great development in emotion alongside the characters we walked with in the previous 2, if it has that, i could do without amazing plot twist and connections to Episode IV-VI (though plot holes are inacceptable ;) )
HM Murdock
10-08-2002, 06:59 AM
If Yoda dies in Epsiode 3, I will attempt to fly, go in to space, fly around the Earth in the opposite direction to it's spinning thus turning back time, come back to Earth, find George Lucas and the Yoda puppet and shove it up his arse!
Yoda dieing in Epsiode 3 is the stupidest thing I have ever heard (Star Wars-wise anyway-Im not that sad). I don't normally take rumors seriously but this is Star Wars and about a year ago I read a story called Skippy the Jedi Droid. This story told how that Red R2 unit (in A New Hope) blew itself up to help Luke. It then became one with the Force. I just hope George Lucas (who I think is a genius) has more sense.
Jason Voorhees
10-10-2002, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by ColinM
This thread name should be changed to "The most fucked up false rumors you'll ever hear about Star Wars Episode 3!!!!!"
lol. I must agree, this thread has been home to some of the most ridiculous bullshit rumors that I've ever seen..
James Logan
10-10-2002, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Jason Voorhees
lol. I must agree, this thread has been home to some of the most ridiculous bullshit rumors that I've ever seen..
Yeah...but at least, it's a fun read. :p
Jason Voorhees
10-11-2002, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by James Logan
Yeah...but at least, it's a fun read. :p
Agreed. Wonder what they'll think up next.. :).
Originally posted by Jason Voorhees
Agreed. Wonder what they'll think up next.. :).
I heard that Luke and Lea are going to be born joined at the hip. The lightsaber comes in very handy for this one.
Not that it hasn't been pondered, but couldn't the prophecy of "balance" also apply to Anakin's son? After all, his presence was every bit as important as Vader's. There would have been a serious imbalance to the force if the Empire continued to reign, if the Death Star was never destroyed, and the Emperor would never have been defeated at Vader's hands. Things would have been different if Luke Skywalker hadn't been there.
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