JASON VS MICHAEL

[The Arrow]

I'm curious to know what all you guys think...who's the kooler killer?

I got one vote for Jason right here!!!

[ANTBond007]

And I've got one vote for Michael Myers right here /ubb/smile.gif. I mean, if Myers could stand Loomis's obsessive bantering for 32 years ('63-'95), there's no way Jason Voorhees could event affect him.

[CWM]

Well, I'm not sure who would win the "Bout To Knock The Other One Out". Jason as well as Michael both stand a damn good chance ... although in terms of coolness my vote would go to Michael, especially the shot from "H2O", where he looks at Jamie through that round window ... maaannnn ... that gave me the creeps ... of course the rest of the film couldn't quite top "Halloween" and it's sequel, but it's pretty decent anyway ...

[screamer581]

I think Mikey would kick his booty! Go Michael!

[Bry Bry]

c'mon ARROW,the supreme killer has to be Michael Myers..Michael gets my vote...

[Erick27]

Micheal Myers is the Winner...


Rick27

[Part_deux]

C'mon guys... we all know Jason would make mincemeat outta Michael. I do like the ol Mike'ster but Jas is one bad S.O.B. Id just love to see Jason pull the sleeping bag trick on Mike. U go boy !!!

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If u read the script u will know that Jason wiped out a LOT of people here on earth... they had to cryoginically freeze him to ensure safety to us old fashion humans.

[Lynchfreak]

Micheal Myers gets my vote too, he has ALWAYS given me the creeps, that white mask!!!!!scary stuff!

[The Arrow]

VOORHEES FANS HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ANTBond007]

I believe the score is 6-2 in favour of Michael Myers.

*sinister laugh* /ubb/smile.gif

[screamer581]

tehee.....we are taking you down arrow!!!! *laughs sinisterly with antbond007!*

[Candyman]

I liked 'em about the same. I didn't like Voorhees too much until I saw is face in F13part8. Plus, Jason never went after a little kid, unlike Mike.
But candy man could take 'em both, with one hand tied behind his back (get it? One hand...? I'm not funny, sorry guys...)

[omega 5]

No question it's Myers. He's the coolest superhuman stalker EVER!! Jason is just a Myers ripoff!

[The Boondock Saint]

Michael is the kinda guy who would make Jason piss in his pants. My vote is for Michael.

[The Arrow]

Man Jason is taking a beating...FUCK ME!!!

[MxChino]

I gotta agree with the others.. Michael all the way.

[Myst]

I'd love to help you out Arrow, but Jason never did anything for me. Micheal Myers was the quintessential of creepy...and he gets my vote as well.

[The Handeman]

Jason makes the mason family look like the partridge family michael myers is a wuss compared to jason GO JASON

[ANTBond007]

10-3, Michael over Jason. The shape's stalking Jason's ass, that's for sure. Maybe that hack Harry Manfrendini will create a sad version of the repetitive "ki ki ki ki ma ma ma ma......"

[The Arrow]

I cant believe Michael is kicking Jason's zombie ass!

Jas is so much more fun to watch! He's more agressive and badder.

I will take my defeat like a man. No big loss cause I love Michael too...

"yells" WHERE ARE THE JASON FANS???????? :O

[Slash]

Ok, this post comes a bit late into the argument, I apologize to Arrow, but hopefully I can help out, so here goes. I have to agree with Arrow. I think Jason is the badder muthafucka of the two. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Myers, he kicks ass, but Jason I think is the ultimate king of killing, and kicks just a little more ass than Myers. Jason's kills are bloodier, more violent, more brutal, more creative, and more merciless than Michael. Also, its a fact that Jason's body counts are much higher then Myers in any of their respective films. Where Michael usually just kills people by straightforward strangling or stabbing, Jason dipatches horny teens much more creatively, for example, the sleeping bag murder in pt 7, Kevin Bacon's throat stabbing from pt 1, the dude getting his head crushed with a belt against a tree in pt 5, Jason decapitating the boxer dude in pt 8, and some of the fucking awesome killings I've read in the Jason X script. Wait till Jason X comes out, I'm sure you all will be changing your tune about Jason. That movie will kick so much ass, believe me. Myers kicks ass, but Jason rules!

[ANTBond007]

Slash, Pamela Voorhees killed Kevin Bacon's character, not Jason. As for Jason X...lol. After just reading the shooting script, I'm damn near in tears laughing. The best kills are gone. No nudity (a staple of the Friday series). Same gay-ass ending. Same "we're struggling for something entertaining here Uber-Jason!" Jason X reeks of flop.

Predicted box office: $18 million total

[The Arrow]

ANTBond007 did Jason ever beat you when you were a child??? You got somekind of personnal grudge against the mask fiend thats fer sure.

You're so passionate about hating Jas...DAMN!!!

Whatever gore is left in Jason X (Part 6-7 didn't need it to be good) I'm sure it will kick ass in the most commercial way. You should be happy, Jason is now right up there next to Michael ready to be commercialised and packaged for the masses. Toning down the gore will make this film succesful for the same reasons H20 was succesful: THE TEEN MARKET

KI KI KI $ $ $

[ANTBond007]

Arrow, to be honest, I don't remember why I hate Jason Voorhees, I just always have :P

As for Jason X and the teen market...I doubt it. Jason X is nothing like Scream or Halloween: H20. It's nowhere as good, either. If they market it as a teen flick, it'll piss off series fanatics. And after the opening weekend, I doubt it'll go anywhere but way down.

You honestly think Jason X can make the $55 million dollars Halloween: H20 did? How much did Jason Goes to Hell make? Jason Takes Manhattan? The New Blood? Jason Lives? Have any of 'em even broken the $20 million mark?

And actually, nothing was really cut from Jason X, at least from what I've heard. It's just....everything seems to be a step back in the shooting script. My favorite death (Stoney vs. The Ship's Door) is gone. No more running Jason (something I've always liked). Again, not much nudity (one scene, compared to the early draft where the chicks took off their tops every five minutes).

I HATE Uber-Jason. It betrays everything that made Jason a good killer in Parts 2 - 4, and it reeks of a "Hey! I just thought of something!" dream. Again, I doubt Jason X will make the $20M mark.

[fllatt]

There's only going to be one master of evil at this showdown, and it's certainly going to be the one with more sequels as well as being drowned, hacked in the head, hanged, blown up into little bitty jason pieces, and know has been frozen to get a kick ass restart into the next millenium...and I do mean next millenium...the winner is, of course, the bad-ass voorhees without dispute.

[The Handeman]

me and arrow r the only jason fans whats up wit that! if theres anyone else tell me also i think meyers got a little hurt when he was shot in the eyes but voorhees has gotten a lot more pain agree with me!

[kOr]

think about it...Jason is dead and Mike Myers isn't. Jason would annihilate Myers.

[ANTBond007]

Kor, that works against you, too. Jason Voorhees has been beaten. Michael Myers has not. Hell, Jason got outsmarted by a 12-year-old kid. You really think he'd stand a chance against Michael Myers?

[kOr]

AntBond007, in halloween H20, Myers gets his head cut off, that pretty much stops him from coming back. In the Jason movies, since he is one of the undead, he can always return. So jason would still beat Myers.

[dogus.uran]

jason would slash him for good.
as for h20,the guy whose head was chopped by laurie is NOT michael.wait for h8.

[The Handeman]

k0r is absolutely right voorhees is the undead and he always a new group of people to add to his death list i think in jason x he kills a few people not his best work but he gets his moments in earlier prequels is FT13 3 the only horror movie that was in 3d besides amityville 3d which blew i mean with a knife going right at ur face i would like freak out but michael myers is too old school voorhees can change to the generation of horror fans thats what is so great about him i have respect for myers but voorhees is da bomb!
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[Slash]

ANTBond007, yes its true Jason was outsmarted by a 12 year old, but Myers was also outsmarted by a child--- young Jamie from Halloween 4-5, remember?. And she didn't even do much to escape him, mostly just screaming and running, and even made him cry at one point(H5). How difficult is it to chase down a scared little girl in a clown costume?? See Jason doesn't fuck around. If Vorhees was the killer in Halloween 4 instead of Michael, then Jamie would have been dead halfway through the movie, and Rachel would be dropping off her blood spattered clown costume to the dry cleaners the next day.

[Chainsaw Slasher]

DUHHHHH!!!
Of course JASON VOORHEES would win. He lasted in 8 sequels, many more than michael has. Jason has been blown up and still lives. The last time i watched Halloween 2 and 4, I remember the fire in part 2 put Myers in the hospital. Ha! Ha! Jason was never stoped by fire. And another, if the old man never helped myers in the beginning of Halloween 5, Myers could have also died there. Jason has never been in the hospital or a mental hospital. and how about the body count? didn't Jason kill about 122 and Myers about maybe 50 or 60? Of course Jason would win. So all the Myers fans have to wake up, these are the hardcore facts about why jason would win.

[A.J. Hakari]

Forget Michael AND Jason, AND Freddy: the coolest movie killer is Death in "Final Destination". You never see it coming, you never know when it will strike next...compare that to the steroid-addicted zombies Mike and Jas are.

[ban all music]

Michael is by far creepier, and scarier, whether he could kick Jason's ass or not. of course Death in Final Destination was more scary than any of them will ever be..only cause it's not as far-fetched as a man who won't die, no matter how many times he is shot, stabbed, or blown up.

as for Michael and Jason goes: i got my vote for Michael..

[ANTBond007]

Excuse me, Chainsaw Slasher, but hardcore facts? What are these? There are no such things. Why? These are movies! Y'know, stories filmed and put on the screen? There are no hardcore facts because (gasp!) neither character exists! Sorry to break it to you, man....

[Bizzaro Space Ghost]

Dramatization of possible events

Michael is behind Jason.

Michael sneaks up behind Jason.

Michael wraps a telephone chord around Jason's throat and pulls on it.

Jason just sorta stands there, unfazed.

"Sonofa......"

Jason rams a pitchfork through Michael's face.

Okay, that's only one way it could happen. But I'm basing this on the fact that while Michael has a few violent kills under his sleeve, Jason stereotypically is much more gory. For example, Michael would just stab a guy, while Jason would just punch his head off of his shoulders.

[the night watchman]

Actually, each seems to have the gift of Offscreen Teleportation. In essense, no matter how slowly they may pursue their victim, they always manage to keep up or sometimes even get ahead of said victim (see: http://www.jabootu.com/glossary.htm). So the same dramatization might go something like this:

Michael is behind Jason.
Michael sneaks up on Jason.
Jason is suddenly behind Michael.
Jason sneaks up behind Michael.
Michael is suddenly behind Jason ...

You get the idea. /ubb/wink.gif

[ban all music]

wow, this has really gotten off topic..it started out just to see who everyone thought was the coolest..now it's turned into who can beat the other one up..

[A.J. Hakari]

I still think the Predator could take both of them.

[Crazy Ol' Loomis]

Myers would kill Jason... as long as he's not a zombie... that's cheating. Jason may have the machette, but Michael's got... uh... good ol' Loomis to back him up incase of a bar fight. Jason's also too sloppy with his kills. Too sloppy and too cheaty. Bad Jason Bad.

[unicorn207]

I haven't seen all of these films to make an opinion but I'll tell you...I can't believe I was afraid to see the Friday movies when I was 8 12-years ago! When I see these movies I can't help but think that they are more suspenseful with less kills and morally boring when there are alot of kills. As for Jason X, why not just get some B-movie or porno actresses to show up in 3 scenes to talk, get naked, and then get killed. Do I have to decide everything! What about the juggies?

[scrimo]

it would have to be Michel because he is my aerate killer and is mental

[TOJ]

Fuck them two lossers i have got a new topic Pinhead vs Freedy........

[*veers*]

Coming into this debate a little late, but here goes. Got to be Jason every time man.
Here’s the scene:
We see Myers, he has a large kitchen knife, and he is stalking in some woods. It’s near dusk. Myers walks slowly but with purpose. We cut to a Point Of View shot through the Shatner mask. We can here Michael’s breath. He’s walking through some trees until he comes to a clearing at a lake. He looks to his left then to his right. A FIGURE, it’s big, wearing a hockey mask and wielding an axe. WHAM it brings it down right between the eyes. We cut to a long shot of Jason standing over Myers who is lying on the ground, axe jammed in his head. Jason contemplates it for a couple of seconds then walks off.

You know that’s how it would go down!

[Tristan]

Jason Kicks ass !!!!! OK michael spent his whole life trying to kill his little sis but failed badly ! whereas Jason succesfully killed over 70 people now ! i think jason has my vote JASON

[fllatt]

all i gotta say is that in jason x, the dude is frozen for some hundred of years, thawed out, and then constructed into a fucking terminator that puts ahhhnold to shame..how in the hell would michael stand up to that. Especially hundreds of years from now, jason is very much alive while michael would be fucking decomposed soot people walk on..

[unicorn207]

Going back to the Arrow's original question, who is the cooler killer, my vote would be for Jason. When you put a white face against a hockey mask, the hockey mask wins. Also Jason does alot of freakish stuff that Michael does not do.

This isn't to say I admire any of these killer's, I'm just stating the fact that Jason is a "cooler killer" than Michael in my book.

[This message has been edited by unicorn207 (edited 12-19-2000).]

[jackson13]

Ok, I read everyones posts and I'm sorry to say it Michael fans but Jason would win. It's just not possible for a guy who walks around with only a knife to kill a guy who uses machettes, chainsaws, corkscrews, axes, and so on. The coolest death I ever saw Michael do was when he threw that guy on the Electrical thingy in Halloween 5 or whatever one that was. Jason on the other hand has used all most everything imaginable and possible to kill ppl, plus he keeps coming back. He spent a good 5 years in a grave before he was electrocuted back to life, he spent another 5 or so years chained to the bottom of a lake and now he's in hell. I think the real situation here is Freddy and Jason. They are making Freddy vs. Jason based on the ending of Jason goes to Hell. I think everyone knows what im talking about when I say the ending. If it was Freddy vs. Jason, Freddy would win. If Jason falls asleep, which he would have to do in order to kill Freddy, Freddy would just drag his ass to the boiler room and be done with him. Maybe they should just make a movie where every killer fights one another. Sorta like a Chucky vs. Michael vs. Jason vs. Freddy vs. Leprechaun vs. Pinhead vs. The Tall Man vs. whoever else they can add. The winner would be crowned "King of all Horror Films".

[The Arrow]

AND JASON MAKES A COMEBACK: So far we got 14 PRO JASON posts and 12 PRO MICHAEL posts.

I knew Jason could do it. Do I hear a bell, should Michael throw in the towel and let Jason wear his crown? Na I'll let this debate go on a bit further...DING DING round 2.

[Sean]

ONE VOTE FOR MICHAEL HERE!He is far scarier and has much more style than Jason.Jason is just a big lumbering dumbass.Also,the original Halloween can't be touched.None of the Friday films even came close.Halloween is also a more successful series.The most any Friday film has ever grossed is around $30 million.The original and I think part 7 were the two most financially successful,and Friday 5 and Friday 8 were the least successful.Halloween=$47 Million,Halloween 2=$25 million,Halloween 3=$10 million,Halloween 4=$19 million,Halloween 5=$12 million,Halloween 6=$15 million,H20=$55 million.

[Raw Chili]

If Jason and Mike ever got in a fight Jason would kick mike's ass. Jason is much more badass, he's the American badass. He'll find some creative way to kill mikey, like he does with everynody else.

[ANTBond007]

LOL. Pretty close topic, eh, Arrow? I say let it run, too. I also like these defenses of Jason. "His kills are better!" We're not talking about which kills better, we're talking about which would win in a one-on-one battle. As for the poster who said Jason would just send an axe into Michael's face and that'd be that...ever see H20? The shape didn't even flinch when Laurie put an axe in his shoulder.

I think the score is 15-13 Jason. Correct me if I am wrong.

Michael would still kick that momma boy's fat ass.

[The Arrow]

Actually dude my original post was on who do you think is cooler? Which one cranks your dial the furthest? Which one makes you scream out YOU GO BOY! when he kills.That's what I meant It was never about who would win in a one on one fight (someone else started that). How can you even decide that??? They're both immortal!!! I just wanted to know who the people dug the most.

[killtheearth]

Well Arrow, that's really a tough question. For instance, Jason Voorhees was an unstoppable killing machine through 7 F13 movies, right up until the writers went vegan and vomited "Jason Goes to Hell" at us.
Meyers, well... Part 6 speaks volumes in itself, basically making ol' Mikey seem like a sissy in comparison with his other Halloween endeavours.
Either way, I really couldn't care who could kick who's ass in a one-on-one. I'd much rather see a Battle Royale between Bruce Campbell and Jeffery Combs.

[Snert]

How could most of you like Michael Myers over Jason? Jason is much more hip and scarier. Michael is the Leprahcaun (however you spell it) compared to Jason. Whats with you people?

[ANTBond007]

Snert, why do we like Michael Myers better? Besides the fact that he looks scarier, has better targets, and is just much more menacing? How about the fact that Jason Voorhees is an exact copy, RIP-OFF, of Myers?

[nightmarewilly]

well i root for jason and root against micheal the reason is miceal is scarier and jason is just cool but not scary

[The Arrow]

The imitation has surpassed the original. Jason is kooler, tougher, kills better and evolves with the times.

On the other hand Michael is scarier...the fact that he hasnt changed in 7 films attests to that. We just dont know where he`s coming from. That makes him scary. Jason is just a big lug with a taste for killing, Mike has a deep rooted purpose.

Jason is more fun to watch in my book but Mike is close to my heart too.

[This message has been edited by The Arrow (edited 01-16-2001).]

[The Troll Man]

Michael never had his mommy have to do all his dirty work for him... /ubb/wink.gif

[The Arrow]

No instead he`s a puppet for a man that dresses in black and cult members in jumpsuits.

And for some reason he cant kill Josh Hartnett...pussy... /ubb/smile.gif

[Horror Hippie]

(throws vote into the hat)

Jason is cool, but Myers was the first to scare me, so he's got my vote.

[nightmarewilly]

well he wasnt able to kill josh hartnet but atleast he killed that ugly anoying guy.(how did he get that hot chick)

[Dehydrator]

Jason is the man!

Myers is cool too, but my vote comes from that point of view : Jason is in seven ( not counting pt. one and five ) movies and none of them suck as hard as "Halloween 5" or "Halloween H20". Even Friday 8 was better than those two!

And by the Way, Jason was never adopted ( FOR ONE FUCKING WHOLE YEAR ) by some idiot like Myers was in part 5. He even had the guts to come back when he was dead and buried! Nobody ever seemed to bother giving Myers the last rites!

[!MorganOnyx!]

It may be a bit late but ONE VOTE FOR JASON
.The question was who is the better killer!
It is clearly JASON. Look at the variety of weapons and ways he kills people;
Axes,machetes,bare hands,cleavers,buzzsaws,corkscrews,darts,steaming rocks from a sauna for fucks sake!The list goes on.He shows no mercy!He crushes heads,throws people out of windows,punches peoples heads off!

[Myers79]

Micheal would destroy the hockey masked pussy!

[AntonioDelLago]

Michael Myers would kick Jason's sorry ass from Camp Blood to Haddonfield and back again!

[jameskilbirnie]

Without a doubt, Michael. Man, is that guy creepy. Is someone still tallying up the votes, or am I too late?

[Maniac]

testing

[Maniac]

god, i chosen new topic. damn. im going to say it again *sigh* jeez!
well i think jason is going to win cause hes a monster.
michael is a psychotic killing dood.
How can you kill a person even though hes dead!? common sence.. By the way jason killing are more brutal and shit. anyways if michael encounters jason. jason would rip his mask "cap.kirk" head off.

[Maniac]

Well i think Barney the Purple Dinosaur will win

[Horizon]

Michael only uses a kitchen knife? To however said that: What Halloween movies have you been watching. I've seen the guy use a garden tool, some kind of harvesting machine. a reapers sickle, a spike on a wall, an axe, syringe, his bare hands, scalding water and scalpel just to name a few. He's even impaled a hot chick on a shotgun before. the kitchen knife is just the original Myers weapon, something trusty to return to.

He's not supposed to be some half-rotted corpse that slaughters people. On some level he's still human, just under a Paegen curse and empowered with supreme strength and rapid healing/limited invulnerability. It's called building a character and a storyline. Let's be honest. How many people thought "Jason Goes To Hell" was completely out of the blue and too far off the mark? That's because all he did in previous sequels was stalk dumb teen's and slaughter them. You can't suddenly decide to come up with a storyline on one sequel and expect everyone to go "Ohhh!", and get into it. In the Halloween series, the writers have been building rhyme and reason behind Michael since the first Halloween.

Hell yeah, Michael's cooler. There's an actual STORY and PLOT behind him.

As far the person who started the "Michael vs. Jason" brawl-thing it's got to be Jason because he was made to be unstoppable even in death. Michael was just written to be empowered so that he may finish off his family and pass on the curse of the thorn.

[BTZombie]

Jason is way better! He never cried

[AntonioDelLago]

HORIZON, that was a very thought-provoking summary of the origin of Michael Myers. Fans of the HALLOWEEN film series seem to be eternally confused by Mike's motive(s) and the infamous Thorn curse. Your explanation clears up a lot of that confusion. I doubt if the next sequel will answer all of our questions, though.

Anyway, you are an excellent writer.

[This message has been edited by AntonioDelLago (edited 05-09-2001).]

[Horizon]

Antonio:

I know the whole "Thorn curse" can be confusing. Halloween: "The Curse of Michael Myers" was actually more confusing than helpful with it's lack of detail and explanation. The Producer's Cut says it all, though. It's almost a completely different movie, especially the ending. In the released version, Tommy said that he thought that he knew how to stop Michael but never got a chance to finish his statement. In the Producer's Cut, while Loomis and Tommy are walking in a hallway at SmithGroove, Tommy reveals the truth behind the thorn rune and that runes of light, those opposite the thorn, would stop him and it actually worked, though not without taking a bruised neck first.

Go to this website for the different scenes of the Producer's cut: http://konker.tripod.com/curse.html

You'll find every scene that was either written differently or completely omitted here and available to view. This should alleviate some confusion.

[The Rob]

THAT'S IT ! ! !
WTF? Micheal is one of the coolest sob's out there but if Micheal ever tried to go after JAson that would be the end of him! Micheal is evil and DAMN strong but compared to Jason he is nothing! Jason is hte personofacation (sp) of evil.

(Can you tell I'm a Jason fan? =)

[The Rob]

also
I think Jason's costune is cooler but Micheal is kinda scarier. Jason's a moron but micheal is nuts...

[bromy]

TOJ... Shut yer damn face, Pinhead & Freddy suck monkey shit.

Jason would so totally kick Myers ass!!!!

[Freddy is God]

Michael Myers!!!!!!! He's just so much deeper and, I'm sorry to say, but he is way, way way way way way waaaaaaaaay scarier than Jason. Of course, Jason's killed more people, and most of his kills are cooler, but come on! The Mikester has made better movies and he's scarier and more interesting. And by the way bromy, Pinhead and Freddy are both cooler than Michael and Jason put together.

[AntonioDelLago]

BROMY...no fighting (telling someone to "shut their damn face" is an invitation to a pointless argument).

Also, I moved your JURASSIC PARK III topic to the Upcoming Horror Movies Chat Forum.

By the way, welcome back. Where've you been hiding? Your opinions are valued here, so don't take my first two Moderator tasks too seriously.

[This message has been edited by AntonioDelLago (edited 05-10-2001).]

[Femme_Fatale]

Right, well i make it 22 votes for Jase and 20 for michael- add my vote to Michael....

22 Jase 21 Mike

very close run- i prefer Michael Myers cos he is actually still scary!!! Jason aint!

[The Rob]

Add some more Jasons to that that list =) my uhhh 8 friends at ummm school uuhh said Jason... Yeah!

[psycho-man_666]

This is a tough question cause they're both really scary, but Jason got my vote cause I think he's a lot more physically stronger than Michael.

And the hockey mask is way too cool!

[Cruelsky]

Its not about whos scarier its about who can kick whos ass and JASON IS YOUR WINNER!!! I mean JASON CAN WHoop Myers ASS mayeb you guys should tell Hollywood that Hey wheres OUR FREDDY V JASON IF NOT THAT AT LEAST MICHAEL V JASON!!!

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Yeah, check it again and you'll find it ISN'T about who's strongest, that ain't the question. And if it was, who's to say?! Just because Jason punched some guys head off (and in the worst film of his career, i might add) doesn't put him in Mr. Myers league. If it did, a better question might be "Who would win in a battle between Mike Myers and the Killer Klowns?" One of those guys punched off a head pre-JASON TAKES MANHATTAN, and I think we have no doubts on who would win if that battle took place... just on principle. Jason is an oaf. The Shape, the real one from the first two films, is devious and patient and superhuman, undying. The Boogeyman. Jason has no such mystique, no style, no class. He's a bad imitation of the real thing, as far as I'm concerned, and there's really no comparison...MYERS LOOMS LARGE!

[psycho-man_666]

When you really think about it nobody can really kick the ass of the other. I mean they're bothreally hard to kill(Even toe Jason is already dead).

I'm from the Jason generation so I just think he's the coolest!

But Myers is a lot scarier that's for sure.

[The Rob]

well I've seen myers (don't remember the movie) LOSE from a beating with a metal pipe WTF????????????

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Whoever that dolt was in HALLOWEEN 6, it wasn't The Shape I'm familiar with. If you look closely you'll see it's money bags MOUSTAPHA AKKAD himself wearing a cheap mask, getting the sh*t beat out of him with that pipe as payback for posing as the real article. Or maybe it's HALLOWEEN 8 screenwriter LARRY(MOCHACHINO)BRAND. Either way, the scene warms my heart, and should warm yours now that you know the truth. Also, wasn't that COREY FELDMAN that had Jason convinced that Jason was in fact... COREY FELDMAN?! If Jason believes it, so do I. THE FINAL CHAPTER is my favorite of the FRIDAY series, just a laugh riot, fast paced and bloody and CRISPIN GLOVER is pitiful and in need of a corkscrew. Classic! But if Jason is this stupid in his finest FRIDAY, the guy truly deserves the companionship of MICHAEL JACKSON, COREY HAIM, and THE GOONIES. "Am I really Corey? I'm a dead ringer for Sloth, but Corey says I am Corey. So I am Corey. Not Sloth. But maybe Corey is liar?!.........CHOOOCOLAAAATE!"

[The Rob]

WOW! that must be the first post that I have never understood a single word!

[Horizon]

To clarify, it was Halloween 6 were Myers got the crap beat out of him with a lead pipe, but then again that's not surprising considering Loomis beat him into submission with a wooden 2 x 4 at the end of Halloween 5. I'll say it again. He's not some dead, rotting zombie that's immortal. He's a person under the curse of the thorn with dramatically increased strength and rapid healing/limited vulnerability.

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

HORIZON, I agree with most of whay you're saying, but you're still buying that 'Thorn' crap? It's contradictory to CARPENTER'S original intentions, and a pretty lousy explanation. I have no doubt there may be some ancient supernatural force at work here, but it's better off shadowy and implied. CARPENTER'S work is slightly more valid than CHAPELLE'S, don't you think?

[Horizon]

I don't write the scripts, I just have to abide by the rules of the almighty sequel. I agree that that particular storyline is a little flakey, especially if you haven't seen the producer's cut, but it's been thrown on the table and that's what the fans and future sequel script writers have to work with. They can't retract it now. I do like the idea of the whole paegan cult thing, though, seeing as how Halloween originated from them.

[The Rob]

Thx, for clarifying!
I heard Loomis say once that Micheal is Evil himself, (they said the same for Jason). That's my favorite explanationd....

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

HORIZON, they already retracted it with H20. There's no logical way to connect that one with the events in 4-6, many folks have tried and failed miserably. The questions remain; Why would Laurie leave her daughter behind? Knowing what we do about the character, this is more than unlikely behavior. I've read a few lame excuses from desperate fans looking for continuity that just verify my position. Even if you could explain this, it won't shed light on how Laurie or her son have no knowledge of the events that supposedly took place in 4-6. If dozens of people were murdered in this little town on consecutive halloween nights, the entire nation would hear about it, and John wouldn't be smartin' off to his mama so sassy like. The entire police force was wiped out for christ's sake! Granted, to enjoy any of these movies requires a suspension of disbelief, and I'm all game, but that doesn't mean I'll accept this ridiculous garbage. You just can't have it both ways, it's either H20 or THE CURSE. I'd love to hear your theory on how they could connect, though. If you got one that makes sense, shoot.

[pizowell]

Jason is cool until he takes off the mast and looks like a retard. He's big, strong, and mean as hell. Why make him out to be retarded. Keep the mask on. Michael is cooler.

[The Rob]

you're right about Jason looking retarded without his mask

[Horizon]

I'm not even going to try to touch the subject of connecting the sequels. Mustapha Akkad needs to come out and say official that H20 was either a complete erase of the 3 sequels prior to that one or that an explanation in future scripts is on the way. People are speculating on the connection between the four movies (Halloween 4-6 and H20) without any real ground to base any facts on.

There are so many questions to answer. Would Laurie really abandon her own daughter to save her sanity and escape a tortured past? Laurie believed that Michael was still alive, so would she let a child face him alone? If so, then why didn't she give up her son seeing as how both siblings are almost the same age? What's happening with the baby that was to be murdered by Michael in Halloween 6? What happened to Michael's scars from his torching or that thorn curse symbol in H20? Anyone trying to answer these questions would sound like an idiot, especially if they try to answer them and then connect them, so, why try? The writers and producers created this tangled mess. Let them clean it up. But will they damage the series even more so in the process? The questions never stop.

[Cruelsky]

You sy Michael gets his head beat in with a pipe?? so what Jason gets blown up he comes back, he gets shot by 50+ FBI agents, Gets his Throat cut open, Burnt. WHo knows maybe Michael and Jason are brothers!!! or even cousins wow could you see a flick tellin us Michael and Jason are blood ties??? OK I AM OFF BEFORE I CREAM MY PANTS BYE!!!

[Cruelsky]

Horizon I think I can answer your question on the thron mark and why it wasn't in H20 coz I think the thron came in around halloween 4 or 5 if I am wrong correct me please! anyways Kevin Williamson said he is writing H20 as the sequel to part 2 of Halloween in other words in his views the true halloween movies are 1 2 and H20!!! the rest 4,5,6 messed up Michael!!!

[psycho-man_666]

Well with all the respect that I've got for scream and IKWDLS, I think that Williamson is an asshole. I mean those sequels like it or not are there!! And to ignore them is a total disrespect of the true fan who have follow the series since the beginning. But I have to agree with Horizon with the fact that Mustapha damage the series with all these unexplain questions. But even in that case you cannot deny a whole series to come back to the original! Yhant's to easy and by the way really stupid!

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

It was a cop out to ignore 4-6, absolutely. And if H6 hadn't been as ridiculous as it was, it wouldn't have been necessary. But if they had referenced that film in H20, that film and every potential HALLOWEEN after it would be completely worthless in my opinion, the laws of suspension of belief completely annihilated, no matter how good or bad subsequent installments. Sure, we know it exists anyway, but I liken it to the history of most pop culture archetypes. No one seems to mind all the different variations we've seen of DRACULA, FRANKENSTEIN, THE MUMMY...If it's done well, we applaud it whether it breaks the rules or even directly contradicts what we've seen in other films dealing with the same character. If it sucks we look for a more successful variation, which is exactly what H20 attempted. If you like 4-6 too much to discard them from memory, fine. That's one potential alternate universe to inhabit, and H20 is the other. You just can't have it both ways, just like you can't exactly link up EVIL DEAD and EVIL DEAD 2; or Hammers CURSE OF FRANKENSTEIN with Universals BRIDE; I don't remember anyone complaining about those. Furthermore, any reasonable sort wouldn't want to find a connection between SLEEPY HOLLOW and SLEEPY HOLLOW HIGH. Even though both films are dealing with the same legend and character, We accept that they are two seperate worlds. We are generous, not wanting to contaminate TIM BURTON'S vision with garbage. That's about how I feel concerning H6. THE CURSE is an insult to CARPENTER'S vision; it is an indication of MOUSTAPHA AKKAD'S (lack of) vision; He sanctioned it, he's responsible. I would think any filmmaker who respected the original would have no qualms about ignoring that story strand, as it displays little knowledge of what made the original great anyway. Fug it.

[Horizon]

The issue isn't whether you like 4-6 enough to want to have them referenced or discarded. The true issue is that of clarity. HAVE they been discarded or is there more story to unfold connecting everything? It hasn't been clearly stated, yet. I could care less either way. I just don't like not knowing. Taking H20 as a re-write of history is probably a mistake considering the motion-picture past. There's always a way (whether it makes sense or not) to explain things.

The matter of liking 4-6 is ugly. You'll find most fans absolutely DO NOT like that run of sequels. I, on the other hand, am able to find something that I like in every movie that Myers has been in. 1 and 2 are classics. Who needs to say anything about those? I like 4 because it re-introduced the world to an old scare and re-established the series. 5 had a lot of heart and emotion between Jamie, Loomis and Myers. You saw for the first time that there was still a person under the mask and rage and that maybe there really was a way to end it. It's downfall was all the annoying and bratty characters that you actually wanted to bite it. I like Halloween 6 because it, in some form, injected the founders of Halloween, the pagans and their cults, into the movie. Unfortunately, it was a flimsy and somewhat ridiculous explanation. You've gotta love H20 just because of the reunion of enemies. I mean, c'mon. She kicked his ass! That was great. Anyway, this had nothing to do with any questions so far. I just thought I'd add my opinion of the sequels just because.

[Femme_Fatale]

This is a bit of a hefty discussion isnt it?? we are talking about 2 slasher flicks here, not Casablanca and Citizen Kane...lol

Just kidding. keep going. im reading it all and its funny...

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Hey, FEMME FATALE, I'm completely aware of the ridiculous nature of this debate. I'll give HORIZON the benefit of the doubt and assume he has a sense of humor about it too. It's obvious we're giving this stuff much more thought than the "creative" minds behind these knee slappers ever did, And we're not even getting paid! That's not to say I'm not really angry about what these clowns have done to what used to be one of my favorite series of movies. HALLOWEEN was the movie that made me want to make movies myself, the effect it had on me at an impressionable young age was accute; I was like eight years old, already a fan of monster movies, scary comic books, the whole bit. I had even memorized the first few stanzas of THE RAVEN, to my mothers utter horror. Even then, I was completely blown away by that movie, it was like the ultimate expression of all the things that scared me as a kid. So yeah, it's kind of an obsession, like a lot of important moments in our lives are. I'm guessing we've all had movies that hit us hard, or we wouldn't be here talking about 'em. Even beyond the nostalgia value, I still think it's a classic, as worthy of discussion as CITIZEN KANE or CASABLANCA. Probably moreso; there are plenty of acedemic gas bags writing on those greats, and I can't imagine they're having as good a laugh as we are.

[Horizon]

Of course it's a ridiculous debate. It's over horror flick series. I'm in agreement with Captain over how close to the heart the Halloween series is, though. It's just something I've been following from the beginning (well not quite the beginning seeing as how I was born on 6/13/77). And it does kinda piss you off when they start f*cking up the series, but what are you gonna do?

Hell, we've strayed away from the original topic of this post for long enough, anyway. Throw in 13 more votes for Myers being the coolest. You don't see Jason stirring up kick ass debates, do you?

[Horizon]

Oh, yeah. CRUELSKY, that wasn't actually my question that you answered, just one I'd have to answer of a hypothetical nature if I was making an attempt at connecting the sequels. I'm not stating that they are connected or separate storylines.

[psychopath]

Fuck that!Michael is a hell of a lot scarier,but jason can take out his machete,or whatever and slice him in half easy!

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Hey man, THE ARROW has stated repeatedly that this isn't about who would win in a brawl, it's all about who you dig most. And Michael is the dig-dig-diggiest. Word to your mother.

[psychopath]

Oh...Michael rocks!

[Norman Bates]

MICHAEL MYERS nuff said

[Cruelsky]

I dig both of them no matter what Michael is freaky Jason is wicked Nothing more to say there both cool in my book!

[krazyivan]

Jesus christ this would be a fight worth seeing. Two guys who getting buckshot has the same effect as water on them square off. I think the movie would last a minimum of five hours and would spawn several sequals.

[krazyivan]

Although I don't care who much mike can scare people anyone who can be electricuted, light on fire, stabed, shot, drowned, beaten, etc as jason would win the fight. Mike has his charm, but he couldn't win the fight.

[ILikeMike]

Michael. He is not a mere man. To quote the good doctor, he is "purely, simply. . .evil." In response to Laurie's question as to whether Michael was the boogeyman, Loomis replied, "As a matter of fact, it was." Jason can't hold Michael's butcher knife.

[cornelius67]

Jason would kick Michaels ass!!

can't wait for Jason X!!

[nightmareman]

Meyers would destroy Jasons ass in a heart beat. Meyers been through hell and back but each time he comes back intact. Jason was reduced to a beating heart filled with black sh&*.

[cereal killer]

Jason could win because he shows no emotions for Christ sake mike Myers cried in the 5th Halloween. Honestly it is a close call because both men showed a high level of pain tolerance for example mike's eyes were shot out Jason got stabbed in the head with a machete I think the whole thing might be a tie they could just keep on fighting forever with neither man letting up.

TIE

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[Wwl66]

Jason is the shit.That's all there is to it.

[APzombie]

Myers is sly, smart, and evil at its best, who says evil has to be how much you howl or ugly or buffed you are... This would be a good fight, i love both of the dudes... but myers is one sneeky, patient, and sly dude, and not retarded like jason. I have to say that myers would win because he is smater, although jason is more recless, a good wit can over come.

[SUPER LOVER MAN]

Corey Haim and Corey Feldman are so cool. *goes into room, turns off lights, and watches License To Drive*

[Headbangerzombie]

I have to say that while Micheal is more of an intemdating, terrifing, and scary figure, Jason is the one I like more. His kills are as, many have said more brutal and vicious. Jason kick ass, but Micheal has a specail place in my heart as well.

[AlienClown]

Wow, this post is pretty old, and has been resurrected. I will say Myers. Can't remember where I heard it, but everyone knows that Myers is the father, Jason is the son, and Freddy is the unholy ghost.

[FunkinMunky]

Michael would whoop Jason's arse all over the place!

[Tyler Dyrden]

Jason!

[ilovemovies]

The problem with Jason is that the Friday the 13th films suck big time. They are not scary, they are just stupid badly acted gory films, except for Jason Goes To Hell which I actually enjoyed. As a killer Jason is certainly more deadlier than Michael but for some reason he just isn't as menacing as Michael. Plus, with the exceptions of Halloween III and V, the Halloween films are infinately better than the Friday the 13th films. So as an unstopable force Jason would probably actually win but Michael still gets my vote for the better killer in the better franchise.

[pedro]

They're both pretty good hey. They both:

- kill people
- chase people
- scare people
etc.

i think jason has a higher body count but then again, those teenagers were always far more stupid than those in halloween. think both bloodthirsty murderers are special in their own special way. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Marc Fantozzi]

I love both killers, but Michael would win. Michael has the skill. Jason seems more dumber than Michael. I love both. They are both cool. But Michael is the boogeyman and has some motivation. Jason just kills for no reason. I love U Jase. I like u both the same..... but Mickey will win.

[sandwich]

..well id go with 'michael
..cause, he did it more personally...if ya can dig that http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Marc Fantozzi]

I agree with Ilovemovies. Well said man.
Jason is deadlier, while Mike is much more menacing.

[TooL]

My...
Vote....
Goes........
To..............

Jason http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Mojo67821]

I've got two different answers...

Coolest one, definitely Michael Myers, come on folks, remember at one time Jason was like a bald retarded freak! not very cool if you ask me. Micael's always been slick, slow and methodical, so he's definitely cooler

Unfortunatley though I have to concede that Jason would probably whip Michael's ass in a 1 on 1 tet a tet, from part 6 on Jason is freaking Jacked, and pissed off. Besides, Jason kills for fun, Michael kills his family, so he wouldn' really have any motivation now would he!

(Michael lost like 100 lbs in H20 also, Michael from part 6 would probably be a pretty fair match up)

[AngelOfSuffering]

I got as many votes as it takes that says after one helacious battle, Michael emerges the victor.

[flames]

All I have to say is Jason who?

[Mike716]

Jason Voorhees.. (Or however you spell it) From the Friday the 13th films.
anyways I like Jason alot but Michael looks cooler and I like how he walks http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

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[Samdaman]

ok....jason copied micheal from the begining...i bet if there was no micheal...there would be no jason.... jason is ok and all but who started it all (Micheal Myers!)

[Dr Martin Luther Loomis]

KKK Jason era - NO! Zombie Jason era - YES!

[Ghostface 2000]

Michael is the best killer.

[KornKidJedi]

Michael Myers.

[Candyman'sBitch]

JASON would slaughter MICHELLE MEYERSI mean he has had 8 sequels after the original Michael is just now trying to catch up and he is wack.
His body count is sooooo low Jason would've killed Jamie Lee Curtis in part 2 like he did the broad that decapitated his momma.
Jason fought Tina the upgraded Carrie, in 7
went on a cruise to Manhattan in 8, went to Hell in 9 and has the scars to prove it. Michael couldn't kill his psycho neice til she got pregnant in H6

FINAL MATCH SCENE

JASON IS MICHAEL MEYERS FOR HALLOWEEN

Michael grabs his famous kitchen knife
raises it to stab Jason

Jason disappears shows up behind Michael
grabs his arm makes Michael stab himself
snatches off Michael's mask Spits his
demon fetus soul ("Jason Goes To hell" part 9 secret) into michaels mouth Grabs Jamie Lee Curtis cuts off Michaels head Jason uses
Michaels eyeballs to hypnotize Jamie she kisses the head in the mouth passes her Jason's demon fetus Killing Michaels body
Jamie kisses Jasons original body in the mouth and hes back
MICHAEL WILL BE WACK/ JASON WILL BE BACK

[old_soldier_2001]

Frankly, Jason would wipe up the floor with Michael. They both have about the same strength level, but Jason has much more endurance. For example: Jason gets shot in the chest from close range with a handgun and he just stands there and looks at the idiot who shot him. Michael gets shot and he flies backwards from the impact of the bullet and falls out the damn window. However, to be honest Michael does have quicker recovery and gets back up faster than Jason when floored. Most people think that Jason's main weapon is a machette. This is not true. He has killed quite a few using it, but he has killed almost twice as many bare-handed. Michael is not nearly as powerful unarmed as Jason is. When Michael's opponets are armed and he is not he gets his ass kicked. Jason usually just disarms his foe and then takes them out. In the end Jason would win, though it would be an interesting fight.

[Jason Voorhees]

Jason would tear Michael apart. Jason is far larger and more powerful looking (Also check out his look in part 7, You can his Ribs and Spine! He looks devestating). Also Jason has a bigger arsenal, FAR more kills, and is powerful enough to punch out hearts and rip off heads. He also has more sequals and has suffered more damage, just look at all the pain he received in part 7. Jason seems to be literally unstoppable. In F13TH7 Jason walks away from an exploding house and takes 6 gun shots like mosquito bites. in Halloween 2 Mike is put in a ten year coma after the large explosion in the ending. Dont get me wrong Mike rules but Jason is tougher.

[old_soldier_2001]

I'm glad someone out there agrees with me. Another thing people fail to realize is the mask concept. Most say Jason's mask being a hockey mask is not very scary compared to Michael's, but I mean come on. Michael wears a William Shatner mask and that's pretty damn scary. I mean I just about expect him to start talking about the low fares on priceline.com or something. AHHHH! But truthfully, Jason's mask is much more functional. It is a hockey goalie's mask. They are made to absorb the impact of rock-hard frozen pucks being slapshotted 90 miles an hour at it. It is a piece of armor that works really well. Michael's just hides his face. (What's the point in that? Everyone alreaddy knows who you are) Michael wears the mask of the captain of the USS Enterprize, but Jason has already visited the final frontier.

[Trick Or Kill]

Now there are 2 discussions in one in this topic and I want to answer both.

Who's the coolest? I say Michael, I like the fact the he is more human then Jason and that he is also smarter then Jason. Michael doesn't always come back to Crystal Lake to kill cardboard teenagers, he kills his family and anyone in his way. The mask is creepier and the entire character has a vibe that when he appears on screen gives you the chills.

Who would win a fight? I say Michael here again. Jason is powerful, Michael is powerful, Jason is huge, Michael is huge, both kill creatively. The fact that Jason has a higher body count actually makes him weaker because he exposes himself too much, Michael stalks people by staying in the shadows. Jason is much more present and as we saw from Jason goes to hell, not that smart. In Halloween 5 when Michael was being set up by Loomis and the police, he got the entire police departement to go to the hospital and clear the way. Michael takes his time, is more methodical and gets the job done better then Jason. Jason still kicks ass but he is too straight-forward and in a fight with his equal Michael would win by simply taking his time to strike Jason as a better time. Jason stalks a bit too but he is more likely to show himself more then Michael is.

[DeadByDawn]

I would go to Jason. He's a true bad-ass.

[MikeyB]

Trick or Kill is right on target. Michael is smarter and methodical. He is much cooler and could kick Jason's ass.

[Horror/GoreFanatic]

I have to go with Jason. He could cut off Micheal's torso with one swipe of his machete. And let's face it, he's gone through hell and is still having a sequel done. Nothing will kill him, nothing will stand in his way.

[Leather x Face]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by *veers*:
Coming into this debate a little late, but here goes. Got to be Jason every time man.
Here’s the scene:
We see Myers, he has a large kitchen knife, and he is stalking in some woods. It’s near dusk. Myers walks slowly but with purpose. We cut to a Point Of View shot through the Shatner mask. We can here Michael’s breath. He’s walking through some trees until he comes to a clearing at a lake. He looks to his left then to his right. A FIGURE, it’s big, wearing a hockey mask and wielding an axe. WHAM it brings it down right between the eyes. We cut to a long shot of Jason standing over Myers who is lying on the ground, axe jammed in his head. Jason contemplates it for a couple of seconds then walks off.

You know that’s how it would go down!</font>

I know that is an old post, but I think it would go like this. Michael gets up, as he always does, and removes the axe from his head. He pulls a Halloween 6 on Jason's head while he's walking away. I think this would end in a draw, but I like Michael more. His character is more realistic, aside of the fact he's been lit on fire and shot in the eyes... and shot six times. Well you get my drift!

[Cyclonus]

It's debatable. Michael is somewhat more subtle, but just as deadly. Both are supernaturally possessed.

[Cyclonus]

Holy shit, this topic has been going on for over a year!

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Yep, it's been goin' for a real long time. I feel that I've matured quite a bit since first commenting on this topic. I'm a different person altogether, really. These days, I'm still quite sure that Michael Myers is, without a doubt, the coolest of the two characters. And that's what this topic's all about...Not who could "whoop" whose arse, but which one is coolest. Y'know, THE LEPRECHAUN is a more "powerful" character than Norman Bates, in a physical/supernatural sense. Does this make him scarier, or cooler to watch? Right...

[zeke1313]

Who would win.....well that's easy JASON VORHESS!! The Original Machete wielding MANIAC! Good ol' Jason would take Michael out like simple camp counselor. JASON ALL THE WAY!

[Jason Voorhees]

Hmm. The Shape is cool in a scary way, he hides in the shadows and looks a little creepier than Jason. His stalking manner and quite demeanor give him the edge in chills, as well as his simgle minded deterimination to end his bloodline.

Jason on the other hand in the exact opposite, He is straight up BAD ASS, He is a huge terminator like ass kicking machine and when he appears in a F13TH movie my friends and I cheer for him to rip someone in half. He just goes right after anyone he wants dead and rips them up. He has survived Hell and came back and IMO is totally unstoppable.

I guess it is more like an if you prefer Pepsi or Coke kinda question. Mike is scarier, Jason is more devestating. So there you go.

[old_soldier_2001]

It's interesting how this topic got out of control. Who's cooler? I beleive that the "Pepsi-or-Coke" comment was right on the money about that piece of information. Each person has (and is entitled to) their own opinion on the debate. Frankly we all know what would happen if the two would fight: the teenagers would find a way to stop them and there would be no definite winner in the end. I personally would like to see them team up. The two invincible evil badass killing machines Jason and Michael against another invincible duo. Like Eric Draven and Duncan Mcloud. That would be a truely hellacious rumble!

[Jason Voorhees]

lol yeah, It would take one hell of a special teen to stop the both of them

[old_soldier_2001]

In regards to my last post, I would like to say the following: Mcloud alone could take out Michael. Think about it. Michael died by being beheaded and that's Duncan's speciality. Add to that he has a quick healing regeneration ability and you have Myers down for the count rather quickly. Michael has no clue as to his weakness, and even if he did, It's unlikely he would succeed due to the fact that Duncan has far superior fighting skill. As for Draven and Voorhees, that's tough to call. Both came back from the grave on a mission of vengence and neither feels a damn thing you do to them. But I am getting too far off topic...

[*sweet psychotic*]

I have faith in Mikey!

[surfdude70]

my vote goes to mike, because
you see mikes(Halloween) stories are more realistic he has survived realistic injuries i.e(burned,shot,axed),as in h20 he got his head cut off end of story so far right?,
jason on the other hand, his stories(ft13th) are so bullshit how many times can a decomposed body be reincarnated,being in a grave for 5 years or so, in jason returns. Dont tell me the maggots havent eaten
every bit of rotten flesh and skin on his
body in that time ,and then spend another 5 years or so underwater with out decomposing to nothing? its so fake. No way in our wildest imagination could a dead body be kept in tact after all those years in harsh outdoor conditions,How fake is ft13 series? and this keeps bothering me,wouldnt a dead decomposing body
give off a very very nasty stench? i mean
in any of the post death series, is there indication of any of the victims insinuating,
theres a bad odor prior to getting murdered,i'm sure you could smell him from a
mile away right? just look at him he is so
fucken rotten im sure theres gotta be some stankness in him, so if the facts were true
many of the victims would get away in a hurry, he would have never been able to get close to a victim just by stench alone and ultimately jasons body count would be cut by more than a half to say the least so that would make mike the more deadly killer.I know its just a movie series but these flaws in ft13th just make it more lame to me, think about it a dead decompsed walking body with no odor able to go up to ppl and destory them to death? tisk tisk!
just the facts
aloha!
surfdude hawaii

[raphroehler]

Who's the coolest? I think it's definately Jason Voorhees. He's endured some serious crap, more than Myers has. This guy, through all 10 films has taken a beating. But he still keeps on tickin'. I'm a big fan of the Friday films, and I like them a lot more than the Halloween films. Plus, I think Jason looks cooler, especially zombie Jason. You got the hockey mask, the machete, Kane Hodder's great performance (in the later ones), and is more inventive (he's used not just lives, but pitchforks, machetes, axes, grills, poles, tent spikes, and much more).
Who would win? I'd still go with Jason. I think he's more powerful and stronger than Myers. Plus, he's a little bit lighter on his feet and can use just about anything as a weapon. I declare Jason Voorhees as the winner.

[Wolfman]

Just like to toss in my own brief analysis of the characters.

As far as coolness goes, that entirely depends on personal taste. I can't stand any of the Halloween movies after part 2. As far as I'm concerned, they didn't happen (I'm still debating H20). If you compare coolness without parts 4, 5, and 6, then Michael's got more style. With the sequels included, however, he's got more lameness than a New Kids on the Block concert.

But we're not really discussing coolness. We're discussing power.

While we can debate who is cooler, who is scarier, and who has the biggest genitals of the two, that doesn't answer the question of who wins in a fight. In a straight-up cage match, I'm going to have to go with Jason. The last several movies had a completely different purpose than the first ones. We don't watch Friday Pt 6 to be scared. We're rooting for Jason. We yell at the screen, but we don't say "Don't go in there! You'll get your head cut off!" We say "Yeah, Jason! Kick his ass!"

Jason is no longer operating in "scary killer" mode. He's long since gone on to "superhero" mode, because that's really what he is. For anyone out there who follows comic-books at all, Jason fills the role of the Spider-Man villain Venom. He's the mega-popular villain. Sure, he's "evil", but he's still sort of a hero. I mean, there's a movie coming out in like 3 weeks that's based entirely on the idea of seeing Jason kill a bunch of space marines. I wouldn't be surprised to see them make a "Jason vs. the Scorpion King" movie. Can you smell what the Rock is cooking?

Jason can punch through steel. He can pluck limbs like daisy petals. When he knocks the door off the motor-home and sends it 20 feet into the air in Pt 6 (with a casual slap, no less), he's displaying strength on par with TV's Incredible Hulk. We're talking stronger than Jet Li in "The One". Michael really doesn't belong in the same weight class. He simply hasn't displayed the same level of brute strength that Jason has. Does this make him less scary/less cool/less stylish? Nope. The guy from Black Christmas was one scary son of a gun, but I don't expect him to match up with Rodan based on sheer "coolness" alone.

[Jason Voorhees]

I understand what you are trying to say Wolfman, for better or worse I'm going to assume your post was an answer to my earlier post in which I discussed the differences of the characters.

Alright the reaon why I did it is because I felt that a lot of people were voting on personal preference and not on who would actually in a fight. A lot of people like Mike's films more so they voted Mike, Even though in Friday films as you mentioned Wolf, Jason has displayed immense strength and endurance. That was my whole point. Also a lot of people said Mike would win because he is ''Cooler'', This is fauly logic, I want to see reasons why Mike would win, cause I sorta see him as the underdog in this fight. Allright thanks everyone. ::Gets off soapbox::

[nothingfaceV]

Jason is cooler than Micheal. Jason would fuckin destory Micheal 1 on 1. No matter what way you look at it, Jason would kick Micheals ass!!!

[Jason Voorhees]

Like that screen name man, Welcome to the boards.

[Cyclonus]

Okay, at this point I've seen enough to know who's tougher.

Jason. If Michael was killed, I can't really see him coming back as a zombie. He derives his power from the Druids, but Jason is backed by Satan himself, right?

[Odd Emu]

I will say Jason because he appears more flexible. (IMO) Michaels joints don't appear very flexible at all. In his movies he always appears to be very 'stiff'. Thus I think he would lose in a fight because Jason has a huge movement advantage over him.

[Andrew Tom]

Jason is cooler than Michael and more creative in his kills. But Michael is subtle and he's on a mission. I won't give a vote, since I think they're both really good killers.

[Candyman'sBitch]

Did anybody ever think alot of non horror fans are more scared of Michael than Jason?
Michael needs a cool score, he needs Dawson Creek (Molly and Kevin Williamson) and Old school rap stars (LL in H2O Busta Rhymes in 8 ) Even supermodel Tyra to boost his box office sales for the general market...Jason keeps it real!!!

[Boogeyman]

Michael would kick jasons ass anytime. think about it; mike is nuthin but evil but jason is just a zombie...who would win? c'mon! i do think jason is ok and i got nuthin against him but i still think michael could whoop anybodies ass, including jason's

[Sam Hain]

why they gotta fight?
cant they just go on a killing spree and of the other movie maniacs.
besides im not sure.theyre both tuff pricks,relentless,and hard to kill.as much as it hurts to say,i'll pick................

mikey.why?,hes got a bigger agenda and reason.

[Jason Voorhees]

BUMP

[ICP RULZ]

Ok,you are all wrong.Jason would wipe Mike's ass with his machete.Jason has been killed so many times that it would be impossible to kill him now.Plus can anyone tell me who has a bigger kill count?Thats what I thought too.Also,I would never vote for someone who likes their family members.

Peace

[nickbabs1186]

Wait, did you just say who likes there family members? Uh yeah that's why kills them right? Heck look at Jason, he becomes a momma's boy when you pretend to be her.

[ICP RULZ]

Ya,Jason is being loyal to his mother well Mike cant even kill his own sisters.Mike would get his ass handed to him in a basket.Plus can anyone tell me who has the more kills?And who is more creative with his kills?And at least Jason goes after bigger guys like brodsky in Jason X where as Mike goes after kids and his family and he still loses.I think we all know who is COOLER and who would win in a fight.Plus,Mike picks on girls.I wouldent call that too manly.

Peace

[nickbabs1186]

Have you like never seen the HalloweeNs. HE KILLS HIS SITER AT 6 YEARS OLD! That's evil not killing little teenagers. He also kills his teenage niece, throws her on farming tools, JAMS her on it and then turns it on to slice up her guts. And he's a pussy? Jason kills JUST as much girls too. Probably MORE considering he has a bigger body count.

[This message has been edited by nickbabs1186 (edited 07-06-2002).]

[ICP RULZ]

Ya,but he cant even kill Jamie lee curtis or hartnett.Now that is pussy.Jason has killed more guys and has been through more.Plus he is a crazy ass zombie.

Peace

[bulletproof]

Jason would kill mikey in a heartbeat!!But mike would not go down easy at all!

[Jason Voorhees]

Personally I feel the more women killed the more sadistic and evil the killer, but that's me.

[Kastman]

MICHAEL MYERS IS BETTER.

JAON VORHEES WAS KILLED BY PISSY LITTLE TEENAGE GIRLS.THAT IS FUCKING WEAK.

now i have that out of my system

[Jason Voorhees]

When was that?

HUGE SPOILERS AHEAD FOR EVERY FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH FLICK! STOP NOW UNLESS YOU WANT THE ENDINGS SPOILED!


F13TH 1: Jason is not the killer so...

F13TH2: Jenny barely survives and Paul dissapears. Jenny drove a Machete through Jason's shoulder, but did not kill him. He returned to attack her at the end (Or perhaps that was a dream sequence).

F13TH 3: Jason was knocked out by a teenage girl in this one but not killed. She put a Machete through the upper right side of his face, Which would have killed a normal Man, but not Jason, as he survived.

F13TH4: Jason was killed by Tommy Jarvis and his Machete

F13TH5: .....

F13TH6: Tommy Jarvis anchors him to the bottom of Crystal Lake.

F13TH7: Jason is dragged under and re-anchored into the depths of Crystal lake by a very special girl, Who probably could have kicked Michael Myers' ass as well.

F13TH8: Jason is washed back to Crystal Lake by a Huge city Wide sewer flush of Toxic Waste.

F13TH9: Jason is killed by a military team equipped with Automatic weapons and explosives. It only took a small police battalion with shotguns to ''kill'' Michael Myers in the rewritten ending of H4 displayed at the beginning of H5. I'm not counting the rest of part 9.. For personal reasons.

F13TH10: Jason is ''killed'' when one of the Marine sargeants drives him into the Surface of an Earth like Planet.

So really he was never killed by an average teenage girl.




[This message has been edited by Jason Voorhees (edited 07-07-2002).]

[ICP RULZ]

Thank you.That was a great summery.I also love your name.And Jason is the best cuz Mike gets killed way too easily.He could'ent even kill Laurie in the original Halloween.He couldent get her out of the closet.He is pretty freaky but Jason is better.

Peace

[Jason Lives]

SPOILERS


Also in part 7 wasn't Jason actually dragged into the water by the girl's dead father. So it wasn't actually her.

[Jason Voorhees]

Originally posted by ICP RULZ:
Thank you.That was a great summery.I also love your name.

Peace

Your welcome. Thank you as well http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

[Jason Voorhees]

Originally posted by Jason Lives:
SPOILERS


Also in part 7 wasn't Jason actually dragged into the water by the girl's dead father. So it wasn't actually her.

True, but I believe she was using her Psychic powers to manipulate her father's body like a marionette. So in a way.. It kinda was her.

This is a matter of interpretation though, What I just described is the impression I got. So I listed her as being the one who dragged Jason to the bottom, but as I said earlier you could go either way.

[Jason-Vorhees]

I think Michael will kick Jasons ass because he is cursed by thorn e is more strong

[heretic]

Although Mike scares me much more he is just pure evil. I thinkjason is much more fun to watch.

[bowieee]

Wow this thread is super old school.

[Jason]

I bet Michael Myers would win money wise(Halloween movies make more money at the box office) but if they were to square off against each other I'd have to say that Jason might take home the prize of America's most notorious serial killer.

[Jason]

I bet Michael Myers would win money wise(Halloween movies make more money at the box office) but if they were to square off against each other I'd have to say that Jason might take home the prize of America's most notorious serial killer.

P.S. Michael Myers is still my fav though!!!!!!

[Jason]

Damn! Double post!

[Spider-Man]

JASON WINS!!!
Jason is biger, stronger, more unstopable and waaaaaaay cooler!!
Michael is just a pale and gay ass dick that gets killed by Jamie Lee Curtis (Now THAT's a shame!)

Yep!! Jason would tear Michael apart..

[Jason Voorhees]

Originally posted by Spider-Man:
JASON WINS!!!
Jason is biger, stronger, more unstopable and waaaaaaay cooler!!
Michael is just a pale and gay ass dick that gets killed by Jamie Lee Curtis (Now THAT's a shame!)

Yep!! Jason would tear Michael apart

lol. I disgaree only slightly http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif, Michael is a pretty tough customer too, But yeah Jason would win in a fight imo.

You got a lot of guts to say that with all these rabid Halloween fans around here http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif. I applaud that.

[nickbabs1186]

Ok you say it's bad Michael gets killed by Jamie Lee(who's awesom) but Jason gets killed by some unknown teenage girl.

Anyways I think Michael would win, Jason is stronger but he's stupid. Michael is very intelligent and could sneak up on Jason and kill easily.

[myers67]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-Man:
JASON WINS!!!
Jason is biger, stronger, more unstopable and waaaaaaay cooler!!
Michael is just a pale and gay ass dick that gets killed by Jamie Lee Curtis (Now THAT's a shame!)

Yep!! Jason would tear Michael apart..</font>


Pale gay ass dick, yeah right, after Michael kicks the shit out of Jason. He is going to run like a little baby to his mommy.

[T.J. fallon]

i'm gonna say mike but! i think it pretty much be an even fight mike would whup jason jason would whup mike but here are some things to think about in the strength department.sure jason has broken limbs broken people in have an such but he's never picked someone up with one freakin hand he's never stabbed a non sharp object through someone just look at h4 mike stabbed a shotgun through that girl and then tacked her on the wall with it. but really their both strong as hell. People who say michael is just under a curse r wrong like loomis said his human part of him died i long time ago there is hardly a fraction of humanity in him. If u guys read the curse of the thorn story over at halloweenmovies.com it will tell u that ever time michael gos into his hibernation he grown in height weight and strength jason has always stayed the same if u notice michael got bigger as the sequels went on especially in h6.

[CAPTAIN BLAKE]

Oh my..."gay ass dick"...lordy that sho' is nasty! Hey dude, who's that standing behind you...?

[Spider-Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by nickbabs1186:
Ok you say it's bad Michael gets killed by Jamie Lee(who's awesom) but Jason gets killed by some unknown teenage girl.

Anyways I think Michael would win, Jason is stronger but he's stupid. Michael is very intelligent and could sneak up on Jason and kill easily.</font>


AHH! I wont listen!!
**Covers ears and starts humming**

[Spider-Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CAPTAIN BLAKE:
Oh my..."gay ass dick"...lordy that sho' is nasty! Hey dude, who's that standing behind you...?</font>

Oh! Myers is behind me!!!!

**Takes a walkie talkie**
[PRSHHH]Spidey to Jason, Spidey to Jason, a giant Q-tip is staring at me and it's getting on my nerves...some help, please, over and out! [PRSHH]

**Climbs a wall and enjoys amused watching Jason hacking Myers to pieces**

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Now, seriously, my!, my post shocked schmoes worldwide!...Of course, I meant no offense to those Myers fans around, its just that Jason is so much cooler!...Peace.

[Adrian4712]

Jason versus Michael

Ok, let's look at the facts...

Jason
Strength: 10
Smarts: 4
Speed: 5

Michael
Strength: 9
Smarts: 9
Speed: 3

Jason has more kills under his belt
Michael is controlled by a druid cult
Jason has the strength to crush heads with his bare hands
Michael has the strength to push his thumb through peoples forehead

Although, even though Michael is favored more by me then Jason, If Uber-Jason and Michael had a fight, Uber-Jason would definately win. But Michael would find a way to come back of course.

[myers67]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-Man:
Oh! Myers is behind me!!!!

**Takes a walkie talkie**
[PRSHHH]Spidey to Jason, Spidey to Jason, a giant Q-tip is staring at me and it's getting on my nerves...some help, please, over and out! [PRSHH]

**Climbs a wall and enjoys amused watching Jason hacking Myers to pieces**

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Now, seriously, my!, my post shocked schmoes worldwide!...Of course, I meant no offense to those Myers fans around, its just that Jason is so much cooler!...Peace.</font>

Jason won't care about you he will be to busy kiling people at Crystal Lake.

[ICP RULZ]

HaHa,Spidy man,are you always that damn funny?"There is a Q-tip standing behind me"Fuckin halarious.Jason would kill Mike.

Peace

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-Man:
Oh! Myers is behind me!!!!

**Takes a walkie talkie**
[PRSHHH]Spidey to Jason, Spidey to Jason, a giant Q-tip is staring at me and it's getting on my nerves...some help, please, over and out! [PRSHH]

**Climbs a wall and enjoys amused watching Jason hacking Myers to pieces**

http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Now, seriously, my!, my post shocked schmoes worldwide!...Of course, I meant no offense to those Myers fans around, its just that Jason is so much cooler!...Peace.</font>

No offense? you just totally made fun of everything we like.

Jason is way too stupid to take Michael. And he likes him mom way too much. Michael wants to kill his mom(if she were alive). If you add it up, Michael is SO cooler, he isnt a rip-off and he is smarter and deadlier.
And it doesnt matter ho many people Jason kills, he just kills stupid teens who will never learn to not go to the DAMN lake! At least for the most part people dont go looking for trouble in Halloween movies, it comes to them.
(just thought i hshould speak up for all the Halloween lovers here)

later

[CeMeTaRy_GaTeS]

In terms of scares Myers wins because he is smarter. Micheal will hide in the darkness sneak up behind you and slit your throat. Jason on the other hand will kick open the door and chase you.

However the friday flicks entertain me more becuase the Jason character was uncompromised longer. Didn't Myers cry in part 5, (haven't seen it)?

[Spider-Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Boogeyman:
No offense? you just totally made fun of everything we like.
</font>

Well, sorry for that, I really never thought making fun of a horror character you like would actually offend anyone...for example, in my other thread, people haven't stopped making fun of Spiderman the movie and character (stevereno?!) and yet, I am still cool with those, as long as they don't call ME a wuss, everything's cool...sorry to those offended

[Boogeyman]

Sorry for going Crazy on ya Spiderman...I just get a little crazy sometimes. Anyway, Im cool now and I think that both killers are great.
Halloween 8 reveiw is almost done, YAY

later

[This message has been edited by Boogeyman (edited 07-08-2002).]

[Big Mac82088]

all you mother ******* are going to pay you are all the **** lickers to think jason would lose to ****** michael myers what ever jason would stomp a mud hole in his ***** ass jason would let michael get his shots and then would show him what hes about and kick his lil kid ass one round it would be over and kane hooder is you read this i love you in a none sexual way i know your busy kicken freddys ass now but when your done you have to kick michaels ass then any lil ******** you want that includes chucky,leprechaun, Pinhead (Puppet Master),and all the lil gay ******* moives that are b moives know one knows aboot

[This message has been edited by Big Mac82088 (edited 07-08-2002).]

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big Mac82088:
all you mother fuckers are going to pay you are all the ball lickers to think jason would lose to fagget michael myers what ever jason would stomp a mud hole in his bitch ass jason would let michael get his shots and then would show him what hes about and kick his lil kid ass one round it would be over and kane hooder is you read this i love you in a none sexual way i know your busy kicken freddys ass now but when your done you have to kick michaels ass then any lil basterd you want that includes chucky,leprechaun, Pinhead (Puppet Master),and all the lil gay basterd moives that are b moives know one knows aboot</font>

dude, ur gonna get ur ass kicked out of this board if you keep talking like that. the moderators dont like people dissing other people.

later

[Spider-Man]

Dude, seriously, better stop the diss or you will only get yourself banned.
Everything is going fine, so don't go screwing the fun in here.

By the way...I didn't quite undertand your point.

Peace

[This message has been edited by Spider-Man (edited 07-08-2002).]

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big Mac82088:
all you mother fuckers are going to pay you are all the ball lickers to think jason would lose to fagget michael myers what ever jason would stomp a mud hole in his bitch ass jason would let michael get his shots and then would show him what hes about and kick his lil kid ass one round it would be over and kane hooder is you read this i love you in a none sexual way i know your busy kicken freddys ass now but when your done you have to kick michaels ass then any lil basterd you want that includes chucky,leprechaun, Pinhead (Puppet Master),and all the lil gay basterd moives that are b moives know one knows aboot</font>

Dude,take a chill pill.Dont you think you are getting a little too excited?You are just going to get yourself kicked off the board.Jason would win all the way with his super-strength.
P.S.
Big Mac82088,dont you think you swear a little too much?

Peace

[Spider-Man]

Leave him alone, he thinks sweraring will make him feel like a man, just ignore him...

[LamentConfiguration]

Hell yes!!! Finally, somebody brave enough to say it!!! But hey, don't fuck with the Chuck!!!

[Big Mac82088]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-Man:
Leave him alone, he thinks sweraring will make him feel like a man, just ignore him...</font>you are gay you dont know me just cause im a jason fan you acked like im the worst person around dude grow up gain som balls for cryen out loud damn woman!

[LamentConfiguration]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big Mac82088:
Originally posted by Spider-Man:
Leave him alone, he thinks sweraring will make him feel like a man, just ignore him...</font>you are gay you dont know me just cause im a jason fan you acked like im the worst person around dude grow up gain som balls for cryen out loud damn woman!



Spider-Man, you are so completely correct. And Big Mac, you're so... riiiiiight...

[Big Mac82088]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by LamentConfiguration:
rrrrrrrrrite

[This message has been edited by Big Mac82088 (edited 07-08-2002).]

[Big Mac82088]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big Mac82088:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LamentConfiguration:
rrrrrrrrrite

[This message has been edited by Big Mac82088 (edited 07-08-2002).]</font>

come on spitey what now come on nate come on nate! what! who si the horror moive me or you ...... thats what i thought

[Boogeyman]

Dude, whats your problem?

[Big Mac82088]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Boogeyman:
Dude, whats your problem?</font>

for one thing im not your dude and 2nd im mad how lil spiderman thinks he can say crap like that when he dosent ever know me i beeped out the words so stop your bitchen lil kid ok its over im not doing any more crap like this so its over if he dosent say things bout me i will not say crap bout him its that easy got it

[Boogeyman]

yeah whatever....

[ICP RULZ]

Big Mac82088,you got a problem.Get of this board.I am tired of your wining.If you dont have anything nice to say,dont say anything at all.Got that from my mom.So you can thank her for that wisdom.

Peace

[Spider-Man]

Dude, really, if your boyfriend dumped you, go stick a broom in your ass or something, you are so uncool...and believe me, I don't care about anyone swearing, I swear as much as anyone in here, what I said back there, was because steveszyk said that during this time, there's always some cock that comes to spoil the fun in the boards (You, this case)

If you are gonna behave like a wuss, go somewhere else and I sware that there is not ONE schmoe that doesn't agree.

[Spider-Man]

As for me, Im only goin' to ignore you...

[Jason]

Moving away from all that I think that we should be fighting over who was the better screenwriter(s) for the series. I mean, they're the ones that created this stuff, right?

[Jason Voorhees]

Originally posted by Boogeyman:
No offense? you just totally made fun of everything we like.

Why take it personally?

Michael is SO cooler, he isnt a rip-off

Michael Myers: Pure EEEvil in human form, hell bent on killing relatives.

Jason Voorhees: Retarded boy who became an insane cannibal after his mother was killed. In revenge he kills those who enter his domain.

See, Jason is really not that similar to Michael.

Oh and Bigmac, I know you were quoting Jay and Silent Bob (or were you?) but it really came of like you were insulting people just because they prefer Michael over Jason, which is not cool.




[This message has been edited by Jason Voorhees (edited 07-09-2002).]

[Spider-Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big Mac82088:
come on spitey what now come on nate come on nate! what! who si the horror moive me or you ...... thats what i thought</font>

What?!? man, if you are going to diss, at least speak in english!

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-Man:
What?!? man, if you are going to diss, at least speak in english!</font>
Ya I know,what a friggin moron.Makes fun of people and then starts talkin gibberish.What a loser.Oh ya,Jason would win cuz he is a zombie and cant die.

Peace

[Spider-Man]

Yeah!!
ICP RULZ er...RULES!! yeah!

He knows tha shit! Good argument, dude!

[hellraiser677]

obviously michael would kick jason's ass!!

[Jason Voorhees]

I get the impression that this fucking thread could kill the both of them single-handedly, It seems to be far more indestructible, Indefatigable, and Invincible than either of them.

I suppose It will only be a matter of time before another argument erupts..

I don't know.. Maybe I should stop being so cynical..

[The Claw]

Jason.

MICHAEL SMELLS(not michael lake, hes cool)
;D

[BILL FIEND]

jason....he could kick michaels ass

[MichaelMyers83]

Defiantely Michael Myers he is smarter.
Michael Myers is the original daddy of them all. Hes the original Coors beer man.

[Boogeyman]

Ive said it before and Ill say it again. MICHAEL WOULD WIN.

later

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Boogeyman:
Ive said it before and Ill say it again. MICHAEL WOULD WIN.

later</font>

Ya,but that isent saying much,like can you give us a examply of why Mike would win?I would say Jason would win because for 1,he is a zombie,and 2, he has been killed more times than Mike and has a higher kill count,obviously,he is more pro,and his kills are more creative.Thanks for any explanation Boogeyman.

Peace http://216.40.241.68/cwm/cwm/rain.gif

[JasonV.723]

JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JasonV.723:
JASON JASON JASON JASON JASON http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif</font>

Come on people,we need to give more of a answer than just a simple name,my vote is for Jason too,but I voted for Jason because he is more creative in kills and has a higher kill count.You gotta give more of a reason than just a name.

Peace http://216.40.241.68/cwm/cwm/rain.gif

[Hell Phantom]

JASON ALL THE WAY! sorry for all the caps...I love micheal but Jason is so much more FUN!

[Jason Lives]

Jason, my reason is that a machete is bigger than a butcher knife and Jason is probably stronger. One good blow and he could take Mike's head off. Mike could stab Jason but what good would that do?

Actually they would probably hack each other to pieces and neither one would die because neither one can die.

Someone wrote once that a nuclear holocaust could last for a thousand years and all that would be left would be cockroaches and Michael Myers I would definitely agree with that

[moviebuff86]

micheal myers

[Alan Idol]

OK, here's the most non-biased way to figure it. A formula:

Michael:

Victims: 85
Times he 'died': 4

Jason:

Vicims: 200ish
Times he died: 8

Michael: 85/4 = 21.25 kills per life.
Jason: 200/8 = 25 kills per life.

Therefore Jason is deadlier.

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ICP RULZ:
Ya,but that isent saying much,like can you give us a examply of why Mike would win?I would say Jason would win because for 1,he is a zombie,and 2, he has been killed more times than Mike and has a higher kill count,obviously,he is more pro,and his kills are more creative.Thanks for any explanation Boogeyman.

Peace http://216.40.241.68/cwm/cwm/rain.gif </font>

ok, i have not been giving reasons...i will starting now.
OK. I realize the fact that Jason is a 'Zombie' and he has more creative kills...etc. BUT Michael is ALOT smarter. He would outsmart Jason. And everyone says how easy it is to kill Michael...what!? KayEm killed him in Jason X. If he hadnt of landed on that health machine..he wouldve been dead forever. Michael is evil..evil can die. If Michael chops off his head while outsmarting Jason...Jason would be dead.

Don get me wrong...I like Jason but Im saying Michael would win by outsmarting.

later

[Spider-man 2]

Ya hear that ICP RULZ? More Jason fans are joining us!

Hooray for Jason!

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Spider-man 2:
Ya hear that ICP RULZ? More Jason fans are joining us!

Hooray for Jason!</font>


YESSSS!!!!They are finaly stanidng up for their man Jason...How come you are Spider-Man 2 now?I thought you were Spider-Man?Well anyways,I love Idol's way of figuring things out on this subject.JASON ALL THE WAY.Oh ya and Boogeyman,the reason why I think Jason would win is cuz he is stronger than Michael,(at least I think he is).If Michael does outsmart him,Jason would still be able to defeat him by using strength.Plus,a butcher knife wont do much aganst a machete or axe or whatever.And Jason has the fear factor too.One last question boogeyman,where and when does Michael ever outsmart someone?

Peace

[Boogeyman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ICP RULZ:

One last question boogeyman,where and when does Michael ever outsmart someone?

Peace</font>
SPOILERS FOR HALLOWEEN RESURRECTION*********

Michael is always outsmarting people.
HIS MOST RECENT OUTSMARTING- Laurie Strode(when He grabbed his mask when Laurie hung him upside down)
Hes the silent stalker instead of the 'bust-through-a-wall' slasher. What Im saying is is, Michael makes his victimes comes to him by making noise. He makes you think he's somewhere else..then he attacks.
Jason just goes straight for you..
And Michael doesnt JUST use a butcher knife.

later

[Kastman]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jason Voorhees:
When was that?

HUGE SPOILERS AHEAD FOR EVERY FRIDAY THE THIRTEENTH FLICK! STOP NOW UNLESS YOU WANT THE ENDINGS SPOILED!


F13TH 1: Jason is not the killer so...

F13TH2: Jenny barely survives and Paul dissapears. Jenny drove a Machete through Jason's shoulder, but did not kill him. He returned to attack her at the end (Or perhaps that was a dream sequence).

F13TH 3: Jason was knocked out by a teenage girl in this one but not killed. She put a Machete through the upper right side of his face, Which would have killed a normal Man, but not Jason, as he survived.

F13TH4: Jason was killed by Tommy Jarvis and his Machete

F13TH5: .....

F13TH6: Tommy Jarvis anchors him to the bottom of Crystal Lake.

F13TH7: Jason is dragged under and re-anchored into the depths of Crystal lake by a very special girl, Who probably could have kicked Michael Myers' ass as well.

F13TH8: Jason is washed back to Crystal Lake by a Huge city Wide sewer flush of Toxic Waste.

F13TH9: Jason is killed by a military team equipped with Automatic weapons and explosives. It only took a small police battalion with shotguns to ''kill'' Michael Myers in the rewritten ending of H4 displayed at the beginning of H5. I'm not counting the rest of part 9.. For personal reasons.

F13TH10: Jason is ''killed'' when one of the Marine sargeants drives him into the Surface of an Earth like Planet.

So really he was never killed by an average teenage girl.


[This message has been edited by Jason Voorhees (edited 07-07-2002).]</font>

ok this is a little late for a comeback.

in friday 9 at the end the girl stabbed him with that knife thing.

but my vote has switched since i saw Jason X which is the best slasher movie i have seen. yes i think its better than all halloween movies ive seen, than any other friday movies ive seen, than the scream series,than the i know.... series,the pool,wes cravens new nightmare (onlynoes ive seen but it still rocked), and all other slashers i have seen.


SO NOW IM WITH JASON. EVEN THOUGH MYES IS COOL BUT RESURRECTION WASNT VERY GOOD.

[Jason Voorhees]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kastman:
in friday 9 at the end the girl stabbed him with that knife thing.</font>

True, but I wasn't counting that for
''Personal reasons'' as I said earlier, but yes, you are correct.

[Spider-man 2]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ICP RULZ:

How come you are Spider-Man 2 now?I thought you were Spider-Man?

Peace</font>

When Im in my laptop, I use the name SM2, when im at home, Im SM

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Boogeyman:
Originally posted by ICP RULZ:

One last question boogeyman,where and when does Michael ever outsmart someone?

Peace</font>
SPOILERS FOR HALLOWEEN RESURRECTION*********

Michael is always outsmarting people.
HIS MOST RECENT OUTSMARTING- Laurie Strode(when He grabbed his mask when Laurie hung him upside down)
Hes the silent stalker instead of the 'bust-through-a-wall' slasher. What Im saying is is, Michael makes his victimes comes to him by making noise. He makes you think he's somewhere else..then he attacks.
Jason just goes straight for you..
And Michael doesnt JUST use a butcher knife.

later



Ahhhhhh,I see now,thanks for clearing that up.But I still think Jason would win because if Jason did come right up with his smash through walls straight forward agression,Michael wouldent be able to deal with it because he is always used to the silent layed back type of kill.I just think Michael would get a surprise from Jason and by then it would be too late.

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[Evil Spike]

Jason Voorhees. Mikey is just a guy. Jason is a ZOMBIE!!

[adidas12185]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Evil Spike:
Jason Voorhees. Mikey is just a guy. Jason is a ZOMBIE!!</font>

Yeah Michael Myers is just a "guy", he's only survived an explosion, a fire, and being shot several times. He's just a typical guy though (*sarcasm*).

[Flesh Eater]

Michael all the way.He's just pure evil.Anyway Freddy would kick both their asses.

[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Flesh Eater:
Michael all the way.He's just pure evil.Anyway Freddy would kick both their asses.</font>

But why Michael.I dont understand what is soo great about him,so he is a silent killer,Michael likes to kinda surprise the victime,well so does Jason,here is a example:
****SPOILERS FOR F-13 PART 6******

Jason jumps down from a tree and does the triple decapitation.He does this after they hear a "sound".
END OF SPOILERS******

Plus,Alan's way of figuring it out works out better.Alan is the man,everyone check out his post and how logical it is.

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[ICP RULZ]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alan Idol:
OK, here's the most non-biased way to figure it. A formula:

Michael:

Victims: 85
Times he 'died': 4

Jason:

Vicims: 200ish
Times he died: 8

Michael: 85/4 = 21.25 kills per life.
Jason: 200/8 = 25 kills per life.

Therefore Jason is deadlier.</font>


Sorry,just had to bring this back up to the top of things

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