The BASTARD is directing Aliens Vs. Predator!!!!

[Snake Force]

It´s the first sign of the apocalypse. Aliens Vs. Predator, a project that could be an amazing movie, is being directed by Paul Anderson, the bitch that made Event Horizon, Soldier and Resident Evil and screwed them all.
Where´s James Cameron and Ridley Scott in a time like this?????????????
How does that Donkey Ball gets a project like this?????????

[[SD] Bob Plisskin]

Event Horizon and Soldier are great films. The direction in these is amazing, the nausiating camera effects in EH make you feel like the characters, yes Cameron would be better but it could be a whole lot worse.

<OB>

[Snake Force]

Yeah, it could´ve been worse. They could have called Mr. Magoo to direct this.

[Weapon X]

*rips out hair and screams insanity at the endless uneeded bashing of Paul Anderson*

Ahem...

[TheFrost]

hey, theres nothing wrong about Paul Anderson, he's alright. Give him a chance I mean he's writing Resident Evil 2 right now so it's probably gonna be a long long time till this gets made.

where abouts did you get this kind of info? 'cause I've heard of this on the net for ages and it's probably a stupid rumor

[mattjk_17]

I think he'd do a good job, personally I thought what he did with Resident Evil, Soldier and Event Horizon was quite good, although I'dve preferred Romero to do RE it was a fun ride anyways.

[syxxpac]

I have nothing against Paul Anderson. I loved both Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil. The only thing that concerns me regarding this project is the fact that they're mingling two separate franchises. Alien should stay in Alien and Predator should stay in fucking Predator. That's almost as stupid of an idea as mixing The Terminator with Robo-Cop.

[mattjk_17]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syxxpac:
That's almost as stupid of an idea as mixing The Terminator with Robo-Cop.</font>

And that turned out as a kickass video game in the 90's!

[eurocat]

OH SHIT, you scared me! I thought you were going to say that Michael Bay was directing it! Shit.

[EBastard]

I was scared it was gonna be McG.

[mattjk_17]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EBastard:
I was scared it was gonna be McG.</font>

That was my first thought upon seeing the title (yeah, I forgot to mention that in my other post, sorry).

[Cyclonus]

My beef with Event Horizon was the postproduction tampering, not the direction. Anderson's a good visualist, and with the right script should have no trouble delivering the goods.

[Snake Force]

The news is there on Joblo News section...

I´d rather see:

James Cameron
Ridley Scott
Guillermo del Toro
Peter Jackson
Sam Raimi
Alex Proyas
John McTiernan
Steven Spielberg...

...directing this project. Any of these could have been MUCH BETTER CHOICES!

And Paul Anderson is going to write the screenplay too!

[Ender]

I dug EVENT HORIZON (a lot), but most of Anderson's other movies left a bad taste in my mouth. I think the real issue here is not that Anderson is wrong for the job, just that there are so very many other people who would be better suited for it (see above list).

[APzombie]

He's not the best choice there is but guys, be glad your not protesting Michael Bay or Steve Beck to do it, ey?

I have faith it can be handled in Andersons hands.

[Common Sense Man]

Yup you can kiss your dreams goodbye, bye, bye.

EH, S, and RE all where mediocre movies that could have been great but lost their steam early on.

But we can all hope that maybe he will be wasted and the AD will take over.

Out...............................

[adidas12185]

Ummmm.... why not have a director that was actually involved with one of the previous installments of Predator or Alien, with the exception of the English guy that did Alien: Ressurection all are proven.

Ridley Scott- Alien, Black Hawk Down...
James Cameron- Aliens, T2: Judgment Day...
David Fincher- Alien 3, Seven...
John McTiernan- Predator, Die Hard...
Stephen Hopkins- Predator 2, the Ghost and the Darkness...

All of these choices would have been better than Anderson imo, because they're proven. So Predator 2 wasn't that great (not an "Arnie" movie), I still dug how the Predator had better and more enhanced weapons.

[adidas12185]

I forgot to say, I am happy this project is officially starting though. Maybe Anderson will prove me wrong, I just thought this called for a better director. I just hope this is good and entertaining, hopefully there will be some Colonial Marines.

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

Why no love for Paul Anderson? Granted his directing skills focus more on flashy shots and no emphasis on character building. I've just seen Resident Evil and I thought the directing was excellent. Some really nice touches.

I think he'll do a good job as Aliens and Predator's dont really have much to say.

[[SD] Bob Plisskin]

does anybody have any plot information? There was a script floating round that I got where the predators send alien eggs to a planet being surveyed by marines in a sort of game, that'd be cool, it's only way I could think they could feasably get the two species fighting. Just aslong as they dont try and explain anything from the other films like why the bone ship was on that planet, it should be cool.

&lt;OB&gt;

[This message has been edited by [SD] Bob Plisskin (edited 07-24-2002).]

[bskutle]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by adidas12185:
Ummmm.... why not have a director that was actually involved with one of the previous installments of Predator or Alien, with the exception of the English guy that did Alien: Ressurection all are proven.

Ridley Scott- Alien, Black Hawk Down...
James Cameron- Aliens, T2: Judgment Day...
David Fincher- Alien 3, Seven...
John McTiernan- Predator, Die Hard...
Stephen Hopkins- Predator 2, the Ghost and the Darkness...

All of these choices would have been better than Anderson imo, because they're proven. So Predator 2 wasn't that great (not an "Arnie" movie), I still dug how the Predator had better and more enhanced weapons. </font>

You forgot one:
Jean-Pierre Jeunet- Alien Resurrection, The City of Lost Children

Snake Force- Proyas would be an excellent choice...if you could get him to do it (I'm still on the look out for "Garage Days" from him).

And the scary thing is...when I saw the title, I knew exactly who it was referring too.

BTW- Paul Anderson is a hack:

"Mortal Kombat"- C-
"Event Horizon"- F
"Soldier"- F
"Resident Evil"- N/A

[This message has been edited by bskutle (edited 07-24-2002).]

[CeMeTaRy_GaTeS]

PAUL ANDERSON, oh man.

Wheres James Cameron when you need him?
And Paul Verhoeven wouldn't have been a bad choice either.

[Grebdron]

Wasn't Paul Anderson responsible for that large POS Magnolia? If so, I'm so out. And why all the love for Soldier? Was that the same Soldier I saw? With Kurt Russell? That ranks up there in the Unintentional Comedy Scale. I guess it could be argued that they finally found the perfect role for him; you know, being wooden, robotic, and not speaking much. But other than that, that movie sucked.

[Weapon X]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Grebdron:
Wasn't Paul Anderson responsible for that large POS Magnolia?</font>

No, you're thinking of Paul THOMAS Anderson. We're talking about the grossly underrated Paul W.S. Anderson, director of Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil.

[Scarface98.9]

I don't think Anderson directing AVP is the sign of the antichrist, as Mr. Knowles and some others are talking about, but the real deal is the writing, since the scripts for his movies were simple, and not very engaging, so a failure on his part in this long-delayed project could break him forever

[Goosey]

I think it's almost criminal how people like this are continually getting work, when talents such as Terry Gilliam can't catch a break.

[[SD] Bob Plisskin]

I think it's terrible that people immediatly slam a film because there's a director/star/producer/composer that they didn't like a few of their other films, there are so many people involved in the creative process that no one person can cause the movie to fail or succeed. Just wait until some plot details come through and if it's revealed that it's going to be a five hour long epic about a crew of predators then you can cry.

&lt;OB&gt;

[crazy_horse]

Damn, am I the only one who LIKED Event Horizon??? I thought it was an amazing movie, I love it actually. Yeah ok, Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil weren't nearly as great (George Romero.....*sigh*), but I think that Anderson has in him the potential to pull it off. I just hope he can.

[Bullet Tooth Tony]

Its because he's English isnt it? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Common Sense Man]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [SD] Bob Plisskin:
I think it's terrible that people immediatly slam a film because there's a director/star/producer/composer that they didn't like a few of their other films, there are so many people involved in the creative process that no one person can cause the movie to fail or succeed. Just wait until some plot details come through and if it's revealed that it's going to be a five hour long epic about a crew of predators then you can cry.

&lt;OB&gt;</font>

Bob my man,

How can you say that one man cannot make or break a project, look at Star Wars one man has driven this into the dumpster with resounding ease.

Then there is the flip side Spielberg has pulled out some great flicks against the odds such as Jaws, that could have been a real crapburger.

If the Director is a stong willed personality he can either make a great flick or destroy it.

Out...................

[KcMsterpce]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Common Sense Man:
Bob my man,

How can you say that one man cannot make or break a project, look at Star Wars one man has driven this into the dumpster with resounding ease.

Then there is the flip side Spielberg has pulled out some great flicks against the odds such as Jaws, that could have been a real crapburger.

If the Director is a stong willed personality he can either make a great flick or destroy it.

Out...................</font>

... And once again the Common Sense Man strikes out... and hits gold!

- KcMsterpce

[A.J. Hakari]

I say just leave the man alone. Let him make the movie. If it sucks, it sucks, but it's only his adaptation the story that will suck. What with Hollywood running out of ideas, it'll be remade and given ten sequels within the next two decades of its release.

[adidas12185]

Uuummmmm... this film being made is historic imo, people have been waiting for this slightly over a decade. So I think its perfectly acceptable for people to be a little more than upset that Anderson's name is on the project (where is Fincher, Scott, or Cameron when you really need them?). Who knows if it is well-done than it could jump start a Predator 3 for FOX. If not than I have my doubts for Predator 3.

[GodMagnus]

Yeah and I was waiting for Spiderman movie for a decade. When I heard Raimi was doing it, I was worried. I love the evil dead trilogy. I just didn't see him making Spiderman, which BTW is a KICKASS movie. I am glad he did it. He did a great job.
Who knows, maybe Anderson can too.

p.s. Mortal Kombat 1 is the BEST video game to movie Movie

[DuskWolf]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by GodMagnus:
Yeah and I was waiting for Spiderman movie for a decade. When I heard Raimi was doing it, I was worried. I love the evil dead trilogy. I just didn't see him making Spiderman, which BTW is a KICKASS movie. I am glad he did it. He did a great job.
Who knows, maybe Anderson can too.

p.s. Mortal Kombat 1 is the BEST video game to movie Movie</font>

HAve you've seen resident evil, because that might change your mind.

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DuskWolf:
HAve you've seen resident evil, because that might change your mind.</font>

Yeah, really. I liked Resident Evil a tad better than MK. I only wish they'd used Albert Wesker from RE 1 because he's the best villain EVER! Spencer? Who the hell gives a shit?



[This message has been edited by syxxpac (edited 07-29-2002).]

[[SD] Bob Plisskin]

Common Sense Man; Lucas writes aswell as directs and so he in the movie making process is not just doind one job. I realise the director is an extremely important aspect to a flim however more important is the scripting and the acting, IMO anyway. Besides Anderson is a quality director.

&lt;OB&gt;

[GodMagnus]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by DuskWolf:
HAve you've seen resident evil, because that might change your mind.</font>

Yes I have. and I still say MK1 was better.
RE is in close second place.

[TheFrost]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Its because he's English isnt it? http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif</font>

LOL, yeah I think thats the reason http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Alf-Life]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syxxpac:
I have nothing against Paul Anderson. I loved both Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil. The only thing that concerns me regarding this project is the fact that they're mingling two separate franchises. Alien should stay in Alien and Predator should stay in fucking Predator. That's almost as stupid of an idea as mixing The Terminator with Robo-Cop.</font>

Actually, I believe Aliens and Predators were mixed in a comic... which was later adapted into the Aliesn Versus Predator computer game... (www.aliensversuspredator.com). The first avp game was by Rebellion, and Monolith recently made AvP2 which was actually rather good.

[[SD] Bob Plisskin]

wasn't there a Terminator v Robocop game aswell? Sort of defuncts that there arguement...

&lt;OB&gt;

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by [SD] Bob Plisskin:
wasn't there a Terminator v Robocop game aswell? Sort of defuncts that there arguement...

&lt;OB&gt;</font>

That's true, but keep in mind that the majority of ideas that are great for a video game are historically wrong for movies, with the exception of a scant few (MK and Resident Evil are the only ones that come to mind.)

[Weapon X]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syxxpac:
That's true, but keep in mind that the majority of ideas that are great for a video game are historically wrong for movies, with the exception of a scant few (MK and Resident Evil are the only ones that come to mind.)</font>

Both of which were directed by Paul Anderson!

*as Church Lady* How conveeeeeeeenient!

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Weapon X:
Both of which were directed by Paul Anderson!

*as Church Lady* How conveeeeeeeenient!</font>

You've got a very good point there. You've exposed me for the dumbass that I am. Now you will pay!

*unsheathes sword*

Have at you, insolent peasant!

[Weapon X]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syxxpac:
You've got a very good point there. You've exposed me for the dumbass that I am. Now you will pay!

*unsheathes sword*

Have at you, insolent peasant!</font>

*revs up arm-mounted chainsaw*

Just bring it, beeyatch!

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Weapon X:
*revs up arm-mounted chainsaw*

Just bring it, beeyatch!</font>

*Weapon X swings chainsaw at syxxpac, but syxxpac ducks and runs into local retail outlet store, where Weapon X loses him in the crowd of zombie-like shoppers. Syxxpac laughs and runs away*

[Weapon X]

Curses, foiled again!

[syxxpac]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Weapon X:
Curses, foiled again!</font>

Yes! Bwahahahahahahaha!

[Invincible]

Ahem...Umm. first of all 'Snake Force' Paul Thomas Anderson is not a bastard, you should keep ur mouth shut about that. I loved Resident Evil he made a kickass ending! and second of all, He is a good director I'm FUCKING SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF YOU BASHING HIM! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif

[Weapon X]

*groans*

For the last freaking time, Paul THOMAS Anderson and Paul W.S. Anderson (the guy who directed Resident Evil, future writer/director of Aliens vs. Predator, and the subject of this topic) are TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!!

[Junior]

Simple Clarification

Paul "Thomas" Anderson did: Magnolia & Boogie Nights.

Paul "W.S." Anderson did: Sphere, Mortal Kombat, Solider & Resident Evil. (And is currently working on RE:Nemisis & AVP)

[Weapon X]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Junior:
Paul "W.S." Anderson did: Sphere...</font>

W.S. didn't do SPHERE. That was directed by Barry Levinson.

[Snake Force]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Invincible:
Ahem...Umm. first of all 'Snake Force' Paul Thomas Anderson is not a bastard, you should keep ur mouth shut about that. I loved Resident Evil he made a kickass ending! and second of all, He is a good director I'm FUCKING SICK AND FUCKING TIRED OF YOU BASHING HIM! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif http://www.joblo.com/ubb/mad.gif</font>


Of course he´s not a bastard. In MY OPINION, he´s a REALLY SHITTY DIRECTOR who shouldn´t direct a project like this.
I didn´t like Resident Evil(5,5/10)
I didn´t like Soldier(4/10)
And Mortal Kombat is decent, almost bad(6/10)
I still haven´t seen Event Horizon, but as Anderson signed to direct my dream project, I´ll check that one out.

[XCoRyX]

I dont have a problem at all with Paul Anderson attached to this project...i recently rented resident evil,and was very happy with his work...his other work wasnt the best nor the worst,but im happy with him getting the job,and hopefully it will turn out as good as resident evil.

[GodMagnus]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Alf-Life:
Actually, I believe Aliens and Predators were mixed in a comic... which was later adapted into the Aliesn Versus Predator computer game... (www.aliensversuspredator.com). The first avp game was by Rebellion, and Monolith recently made AvP2 which was actually rather good.</font>

Nintendo had an AVP game also. So the two foes have always existed.

[kame]

If i may say something.
I've loved RE. I thought it was a great movie, with nice shots e a outstanding soundtrack. I've watched almost all Anderson movies, and my favorites are RE and EH.
Snake, i ask for you to go see EV. You will like. Trust me. If you dont, you can curse me. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Serious, watch EH, i think you would like. And about RE, George Romero would make RE win a Oscar. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif But Anderson did a good job. I'll see RE again. I've watched 3 times. Hihi.

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Sorry about the rusty English. Speaking from Brasil, i'm gone...




[This message has been edited by kame (edited 08-06-2002).]

[YF Manson]

Ridley Scott and James Cameron would not make a movie like this even though we wish they would, but I think Guillermo Del Toro would make a much better director then Paul after seeing Blade2.

[venkman]

What a mouthwatering prospect an aliens vs predator movie IS!! Wait a minute, did someone say PAUL ANDERSON. Better Make that a WAS !! Come on what the hell were fox thinking, i mean did anybody even bother to watch Res evil. The scariest thing about that movie was that people had to pay to watch it.

[gs455]

i thought res, evil was alright. could have been better, but then
again it could have been worse. i dont know if Paul W.S. Anderson
is right for the job, but i think he could make a great movie or maybe i should say i hope

[syxxpac]

I really don't know why people hate Paul Anderson as a director, when in fact the blame for his "horrible" films should rest solely on his screenwriting. He's no directing genius but he's nowhere near as horrible as everybody says (love his action scenes). Fortunately, I'm one who can look past plot holes, stop bitching and enjoy some fun entertainment now and then, so I had no problem. But I'm willing to bet that everybody's main problem with his flicks is their weak scripts. So...well, there ya go I guess.

But this is one useless speck of a human being's unimportant opinion. Take it as you will...

P.S. I've come to the conclusion that when you have blaring rock music as a soundtrack, you really shouldn't expect to be scared :D

[dannywalker17]

Originally posted by Snake Force
Where´s James Cameron and Ridley Scott in a time like this?????????????

I would imagine they are busy making GOOD movies.

[EBastard]

Originally posted by dannywalker17
I would imagine they are busy making GOOD movies. Actually, Ridley Scott is busy making good movies while Cameron is...at the local Hollywood retirement home with Coppola and Hughes.

[the movie guy]

Originally posted by Cyclonus
My beef with Event Horizon was the postproduction tampering, not the direction. Anderson's a good visualist, and with the right script should have no trouble delivering the goods.

True dat. Those post-production slo-mo shots in EH were horrible.


I think P. Anderson could do a fine job with the look of this movie. It's the premise I'm worried about though, since the idea of Alien and Predator fighting each other in a movie sounds really really retarded.

[electriclite]

So far the only reason I'm seeing for how Anderson got the job is that he has experience in directing video games into movies, with pretty bland results.


You know I read an excerpt about how Anderson felt about directing the Alien vs. Predator and he came off like a overzealous fan, and that's when I knew this would be bad.

I've just come to the point where I realize overzealousness does not a good comic book/video game movie make. That always leads to that dreaded "eager to please" writing. Please the audience but not by pandering to them but to the story, if you do it right they'll follow along.

There's gotta be some freaking finesse and some self control to counteract that overzealousness otherwise it's just overdone crap that only a certain age group appreciates but grows out of.

I haven't grown out of Aliens, I haven't grown out of Predator, but I have a feeling a lot of people are gonna grow out of Aliens vs. Predator.

[Common Sense Man]

All I know is that I have seen RE, EH and Soldier and I do not want Pred Vs Alien to look anything like those mediocre movies.

They where not total crap but this could be epic and I just don't feel he can handle it.

Out...................................

[The Delfonics]

Mortal Kombat and Resident Evil might have both been pretty crappy but Event Horizon was awesome. That was one of the most visually stunning and scary films Ive seen. 8/10

I think AvP will end up bad no matter who does it

[Shockwave]

Some movies are very easy to screw up.This should not be one of them.
All i want to see is some great action and a fun time at the movies.


By the way i think he gets way to much flak form peeps. Mortal kombat was great and so was event horizon,resident evil i felt cheated on due to some very spotty dialoge and lack of any real horror(its RE not the matrix damzit SURVIVAL horror) but the heart was there ill admit and the ending kicked arse so i hold out hope for the best cause i think he can deliver the goods.