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inglourious basterd
08-20-2002, 08:52 AM
According to Avary's biography in IMDb:

Trivia

Met Quentin Tarantino at a video store they both worked at in the 1980's.

Though Quentin Tarantino recieved credit, it was actually Avary who concieved the Top-Gun gay reference speech that Tarantino used in Sleep with Me (1994).

Avary's writing contributions to Pulp Fiction (1994) include: 1) A boxer who refuses to throw a fight. 2) A pair of hitmen who accidentally shoot a hostage in the head in the back of a car. (Actually a deleted script idea from True Romance (1993). 3) A boxer who tells his wife they are in danger, and must leave the country.


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Personal quotes

(on Quentin Tarantino): "I've realised that I can't hang out with him. I talk with him, and he just sucks stuff from me."


They supposedly wrote True Romance, Res. Dogs, and Pulp Fiction together. I am as big a Tarantino fan as anyone here.. I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion?

BubbaStrangelove
08-20-2002, 09:10 AM
I've thought this before -- what scripts can Tarrantino take ALL of the credit for? Four Rooms.... anything else?

Reservoir Dogs -- major points of script lifted from Taking of Pelham 1,2,3

True Romance -- Tarrantino, Avary

N.B.K. -- Tarrantino

Pulp Fiction -- Tarrantino and Avary

Jackie Brown -- Elmore Leonard


Maybe you bigger fans can correct that list, or add stuff I'm missing -- this is just how i always saw it.

Reigh Kaufman
08-20-2002, 10:12 AM
Tarantino was the leader of a new-wave of cine-literate directors, and I think he is given less credit because of this.

There can be no doubt that he was heavily influenced by Taking of Pelham, 1, 2, 3 and Ringo Lam's City On Fire for Reservoir Dogs. There is also no doubt he pinched his Four Rooms sequence (the characters even say it) from an old TV show. But as for Pulp Fiction, the adaptation of Jackie Brown and the input of Roger Avary in True Romance -- it's negligible. Avary is a competent director, but there is no doubt in my mind that, as with all pioneers (as I see it) there exists a certain amount of envy. This is why, to this day, he still moans about his influence (an influence acknowledged by Tarantino)to anyone who will listen.

Perhaps Rules of Attraction will ease his pain...

BubbaStrangelove
08-20-2002, 10:57 AM
good points, reigh!

i wonder how Avary felt about Tarrantino when Tarrantino put up the financial backing for Killing Zoe. Hmmm... I wonder if Avary thought that Tarrantino was stealing from him that time, or if he just shut up allowed the movie to be made.