Are We Totally Wrong About Celebrities?

[flowrchild]

I saw this quote today from Jay Mohr, and it made me wonder:

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"I've worked with a lot of people who were really a--holes, and who shall remain nameless. But they're certainly not my 'Friends.' Just put 'Friends' in italics, and we're good to go."
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This quote is clearly against his "Friends" costar Jennifer Aniston from the movie Picture Perfect.

To the public eye, Jennifer Aniston seems like a sweet funny down to earth girl who any of us would love to hang out with. But here is a guy who worked with her, and clearly thinks she is a bitch on wheels.

My question is, are we totally wrong about celebrities? Are they such good actors that they even kid us into thinking they are the same way off screen? Have we all been brainwashed?

I am just curious about your thoughts on this. Also, are there any actors that you assume are a certain way without really having the evidence to back it up?

[Alexis]

That's a good question Flowr and i'm sure you are absolutely correct. The movie industry is a glitzy world pretty much based on how people are on the outside, so yeh i'd say that alot of these people want us (the general public) to think they are awesome motherfuckers so we'll go see their movies etc.

But honestly, and i'm sure i'm one of the few, i don't really care whether Jennifer Aniston is a nice person or not, i don't know her and i never will so she can be as big a bitch as she wants (tho generally i like to think people are nice http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif). I also don't think she's a good actress but that's just my POV.

In response to the question i don't think i have been brainwashed but i can bet my tits a hell of alot of ppl out there have (u see die hard fans thinkin they know shit about celebrities which is kinda scary i think).

Anyhow i don't give a crap if, say, Edward Norton is difficult or arrogant as long as he keeps dishin out great performances in entertaining flicks i'll be sound as a bound.

This is not an exit.

[BubbaStrangelove]

i'd say you're right, flo.

i think we are wrong anytime we judge someone we don't know. actors are included as people we don't know.

[Grebdron]

I have met many celebrities, and therefore have a slightly jaded opinion. I have both performed services for them, and met them in passing. I find that with most, when you meet them in some sort of context other than service, they come across as very nice. As long as you're not hounding for an autograph, or butting in on a meal or something. But the same ones treat service workers like shit. I can't say all of them are like that, but because of my prior experiences, I am much happier meeting just a regular person who I am conversationally compatible with. There have been a few that I have met in both circumstances (of course they don't remember) and they were completely different under different circumstances. Hypocrites. I helped Rachel Hunter off an airplane once, and she was a total bitch, because I didn't matter. A year or so later, I was attending a $1000 a plate function, and she was the nicest person you'd want to meet. Why? Because if I could afford to attend this function, I was "on her level" or could possibly do something to further her career. That is just one story, it happens with alot of "celebrities." I could care less when I meet an actor or athlete.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Well, the thing is, it could have just been a clash of personalities betwen the two of them. I'm a bit like that, in that I have friends who would kill (literally) for me but I still manage to annoy people simply by being myself. Other personalities clash (Baldwin and Stone on the set of Sliver, for example) so who knows? This is the reason I much prefer Al Pacino, who I know absolute zero about from his personal life.

[flowrchild]

Thanks, I have enjoyed reading everyone's responses so far. You guys rock.

Another thing I wanted to point out-- do you notice how the term "america's sweetheart" is kind of a kiss of death? The people who get granted that title are usually anything but, and people quit liking them when they realize that is just their screen persona.

Case in point--Meg Ryan. The classic america's sweetheart. Too bad she was once a major cokehead, hasn't talked to her mother for a decade, and cheated on her husband. Have you noticed that since that affair became public, she has lost a lot of her audience? Or how about Julia Roberts. Such the america's sweetheart, except she has absolutely no tact or class, and ran off with someone else's husband.

I know, they are just people like you and I. Flaws and all. But I think some people can't survive their actual personality surfacing. It is like when people say that they hope their favorite actor isn't gay! Sad to say, I don't think many hot hollywood actors would be as famous if they revealed their true sexuality.

Pitiful, ain't it?

[Grebdron]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flowrchild:

Case in point--Meg Ryan. The classic america's sweetheart. Too bad she was once a major cokehead, hasn't talked to her mother for a decade, and cheated on her husband. Have you noticed that since that affair became public, she has lost a lot of her audience? </font>

Ok, Dearie. You can talk about the hag Julia Roberts all day long. But Meg Ryan is off limits. DADADADADADADADADA I'm not hearing you. J/K of course, but yes you are right. I think the next one in danger of this is Reese Witherspoon. She better watch her ass.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Meg Ryan is about as sweet as a vinegar wine. Julia Roberts is 14 obn the pH scale.

Now, Angelina Jolie - there's an innocent!

[flowrchild]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Grebdron:
I think the next one in danger of this is Reese Witherspoon. She better watch her ass.

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Kevin Smith has already gone on record calling her a "little snot", so perhaps you are on to something here. Maybe she will end up being such a bitch that Ryan Phillippe will divorce her ass and come marry me http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Sorry, moment of fantasy.

[Reigh Kaufman]

Flowrchild

Haven't you already got your 'one get out of jail free pass'?

'See, it's not the final list'

'This is laminated'
The very wonderful Rosellini.

[flowrchild]

Anyone who references the show Friends gets a thumbs up in my book. Mind if I add you to my list of laminated fantasies?

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[Grebdron]

***sniff, sob, sniff***

Friends, Friends, Friends, Friends, Friends

[Reigh Kaufman]

Flowchild, you just made me look forward to sleeping tonight, girl.

We'll have to keep it secret, mind, but when the time is right....

[Reigh Kaufman]

Grebdron

We were jsut talking...That's all...talking...and then you came in...look, I know how this must look...but...whatare you doing?...put that down...no, no, no....Aghhhhhhhhhhhh!

[flowrchild]

Grebdron- You had the nerve to tell BCV earlier that you LOVED her! So now I feel justified having a little fling with Reigh to compensate for my jealousy.

Then we can live happily ever after, like romeo and juliet (ok, bad example...)

[Reigh Kaufman]

'We started out like Romeo and Juliet, but it ended in tragedy'

10 points if you can tell me who said this?

BTW, don't tell anyone you two, but I think BCV is a secret lemonade drinker? Shh, now, don't tell anyone I said that.

[flowrchild]

Milhous van Houten. And yes, I cheated.

[Grebdron]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by flowrchild:
Grebdron- You had the nerve to tell BCV earlier that you LOVED her! So now I feel justified having a little fling with Reigh to compensate for my jealousy.

Then we can live happily ever after, like romeo and juliet (ok, bad example...)</font>

I love her like I love Reigh. OK, bad example. But I wouldn't do either of them. I'm not violent Reigh, I might just jump in. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Reigh Kaufman]

How did you cheat?

You are correct, though, 10 points!

[the movie guy]

All I can say is that I'll punch Russell Crowe in the face if he's an asshole on the set of any of MY movies (though I would try my best not to cast his ass in the first place).

[BadCoverVersion]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Reigh Kaufman:
BTW, don't tell anyone you two, but I think BCV is a secret lemonade drinker? Shh, now, don't tell anyone I said that.</font>

I swear to the big JC sweetheart...I will fucking kick your soft arse sooooo bad!

I've just about had my fill...and I'm not at all happy!

I'm like a bloody "Chicago Town Pizza"...You just won't know when I'm ready to ruuuuuuumble!

Anyway...I'm off for a kip and a nice tall mug of R-Whites!

[Reigh Kaufman]

Marry me. Marry me now, BCV.

[BadCoverVersion]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Reigh Kaufman:
Marry me. Marry me now, BCV.</font>

What are you on about?

I have a go and you come back with a marriage proposal!?

Are you Gangsta trippin'? Ten miles High? Been snorting a bit of "Cyril" have we!?

You astound me Mr. Kaufman!

[Reigh Kaufman]

I astound you, you amaze me. We're perfect. Can you imagine...babies that look a cross between Jason Lee and Sam Morton? We'll be the toast of the World...

P.S. I was at Gig On the Green...Fucking hell, The Strokes, Pulp, The White Stripes...I nearly e-mailed ya to gloat.

[flowrchild]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by BadCoverVersion:
What are you on about?

I have a go and you come back with a marriage proposal!?

Are you Gangsta trippin'? Ten miles High? Been snorting a bit of "Cyril" have we!?

You astound me Mr. Kaufman!

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You know men--the worse you treat 'em, the more they can't resist you!

[Reigh Kaufman]

You know women -- the more you let them walk over you, the more they let you hog the TV.

[BadCoverVersion]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Reigh Kaufman:
I astound you, you amaze me. We're perfect. Can you imagine...babies that look a cross between Jason Lee and Sam Morton? We'll be the toast of the World...

P.S. I was at Gig On the Green...Fucking hell, The Strokes, Pulp, The White Stripes...I nearly e-mailed ya to gloat.</font>

Piss off...Don't be so bleedin' unfair (and I look more like Sarah Smart btw...The one from At Home with the Braithwaites and Sparkhouse)...I'm listening to a wee bit of "White Blood Cells", "We Love Life" and "Tom Petty" at the mo'...

You're a bastard sometimes Reigh...I was well and truuuuuly gutted that I couldn't put in an appearance at the ol' "Gig on the Green"...and you come on here acting like bloody Lord Muck!

Ooooooh you're a little scamp!

Anyway, Jason Lee my backside...I want hardcore proof sonny-jim!

Hmmmmm...


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[Reigh Kaufman]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jason Lee is not a 'hardore' actor, he appears in movies that show at the local multiplex.

Now, before I go to bed, I would just like to sing a few songs.

*Clears throat*

'Well it happened years ago. When you lived on Stanhope Road. We listened to your sister, when she came home from school. She was two years older, and she had boys in her room...I listened outside, I heard her...alright!

Pulp (the fantastic Pulp). Babies.

Playlist: 9

Next number.

'United we stand, together we fall apaaart!'

The Strokes. Someday.

Playlist: 4

And for you, my little ball of sugar, the most apt lyric of the weekend.

'Let's get married'

Playlist: 13

White Stripes. Hotel Yorba.

P.S. 'Last Dance With Mary Jane' or 'Don't come Around Here Anymore'? Which is the bestest?

[Reigh Kaufman]

If you are baffled by my last remark you can't be a 'true' fan of Pulp.

Heh-heh.

[BadCoverVersion]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Reigh Kaufman:
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Jason Lee is not a 'hardore' actor, he appears in movies that show at the local multiplex.

Now, before I go to bed, I would just like to sing a few songs.

*Clears throat*

'Well it happened years ago. When you lived on Stanhope Road. We listened to your sister, when she came home from school. She was two years older, and she had boys in her room...I listened outside, I heard her...alright!

Pulp (the fantastic Pulp). Babies.

Playlist: 9

Next number.

'United we stand, together we fall apaaart!'

The Strokes. Someday.

Playlist: 4

And for you, my little ball of sugar, the most apt lyric of the weekend.

'Let's get married'

Playlist: 13

White Stripes. Hotel Yorba.

P.S. 'Last Dance With Mary Jane' or 'Don't come Around Here Anymore'? Which is the bestest?</font>

Last Dance With Mary Jane without a doubt and if you want a couple of lyrics then here you go lovey (The Strokes, The Stripes & Pulp of course!)!

" F.E.E.L.I.N.G. C.A. double L.E.D. L.O.V.E. What is this thing that is happening to me?"

"Oh yeah, alright...Take it easy, baby...Make it last all night!"

"Tonight I'll dream while in my bed...when silly thoughts go through my head...about the bugs and alphabet"

"Oh, little girl...I don't care no more
I know this for sure...I'm walking out that door!"

And another little one for you...

"I don't know what's good for me...I don't know what's good for me...I need your love love love love love, yeah! Your love!"

[BadCoverVersion]

And how dare you...you bloody rapskallion!

I DEFINE "True Pulp Fan"...

From "IT" to "FREAKS" to "HARDCORE" to "DIFFERENT CLASS" to "LOVE LIFE" bloody "INTRO"...

I'm not being funny love, but I have about 200 CDs, 50 Vinyl, 10 vids...about 15 signed CD'S/Vinyl...and several posters!

I AM HARDCORE...AND I MAKE ME HARD!