Natalie Portman having LESBIAN tendencies!!! [Archive] - Movie Fan Central Discussion Forums

Mike

06-25-2002, 07:26 PM

Sensual Star Wars babe Natalie Portman has feelings for other women. The stunning actress who plays Senator Amildala in Attack Of The Clones announced that, although she has never explored her lesbian fantasies, she would not rule it out. The sexy stunner, who once dated Moby, claimed that although her personality is more compatible with men she wouldn't want to close herself off to girl only action. She says, "I've never dated a woman or anything like it. But I think it's much more the person that you fall in love with and why would you close yourself off to 50-per-cent of people?"

Well, I'm cool with it----OF COURSE http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif!!! I must say it's pretty exciting news and I will admit it's very big of her to admit that. You go girl!!! Now if we could only get some pics of her fufilling her fantasy...

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Cyclonus

06-25-2002, 07:33 PM

This is a welcome surprise. In my eyes, it only makes her sexier. I'd love to see her in a juicy lesbian role, but since she plans to give up on acting I don't think that will happen.

notchreturns

06-25-2002, 07:47 PM

Wow, she's defiently money in my bag. Not only is she a good actress, but she likes to pick her ass.Now I can add in this little lesbian rumor and good lord...she's my dream girl!!!

06-25-2002, 07:51 PM

I wonder if anyone can get an image of her lesbian-ass picking.

Seriously though, this is a good thing to hear from an actress and something the media seems to blast out of proportion from time to time.
One of the British tabloids today - The Sun - had a photo of Anna Kournikova kissing a girl who she'd just played in a tennis match at Wimbledon, and they made it out to be some kind of lesbian action. Pathetic (All they were doing was kissing over the net once the game had ended, which is what most of the women do).

Scrunch

06-25-2002, 08:48 PM

Doesn't mean she actually digs women guys. Sorry to burst your bubble. Just means she's very open minded.

APzombie

06-25-2002, 09:55 PM

geez, first a picture of her picking her butt, then news of her 'not ruling out being a lesbian'. What is it about Natlie Portman that makes you guys so hypnotic!
http://www.joblo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

SAI

06-26-2002, 03:40 AM

But I think it's much more the person that you fall in love with and why would you close yourself off to 50-per-cent of people?"

Is it just me, or has she seen Chasing Amy once too often?

Common Sense Man

06-26-2002, 04:04 AM

In the immortal words of Mr. Rock

http://www.mit.edu/people/jawhite/rock2.gif
Nuthing wrong with dat!

Maybe Lynch can use her in a film or two.

Out........................

arto_j

06-26-2002, 05:03 AM

Originally posted by SAI:

Is it just me, or has she seen Chasing Amy once too often?

My thoughts exactly. The comment was like a direct quote from the movie.

Linus*likes*noise

06-26-2002, 07:51 AM

Originally posted by ak:

One of the British tabloids today - The Sun - had a photo of Anna Kournikova kissing a girl who she'd just played in a tennis match at Wimbledon

See, if we all just stop buying/reading that bullshit-trash-nonsense, there would be no reason to take up space on a good message board like this. Why even mention something like that, it should be expected to be pure rubish, nothing else, much less.

It's too bad most people worry about other people's lives more than their own...
...what a fuckin' world...

Geronimo

06-26-2002, 08:56 AM

Portman dated Moby?!!!

Linus*likes*noise

06-26-2002, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Geronimo:
Portman dated Moby?!!!

need I say more?...

Jack Tripper

06-26-2002, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Linus*likes*noise:
need I say more?...

Thanks for giving us the heads up on what discussions you think suck.

Linus*likes*noise

06-26-2002, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Jack Tripper:

Thanks for giving us the heads up on what discussions you think suck.

Hey I din't give anyone head!!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Sorry if I am being to truthful here but I am just giving my opinion on the thread duder, no need to get all hostile-sarcastic.

It just kills me that such cool chick like Natalie now has to deal with the ever-hurtin' tabloids.

I guess if your in Star Wars, you can count on those "newspapers" to document every word of yours and exploit every qoute to the limits of exploitation.

And to Mike, just reading this threads title was enough for me to smile after a hard nights work...

mmmmmmmmm...Natalieeee....... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Bullet Tooth Tony

06-26-2002, 01:02 PM

There is a God...and shit if she dated Moby then theres hope for me.

Jack Tripper

06-26-2002, 01:24 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Linus*likes*noise:
Hey I din't give anyone head!!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Sorry if I am being to truthful here but I am just giving my opinion on the thread duder, no need to get all hostile-sarcastic.

You're right on about tabloids sucking! I really wish the celebrities would start their own tabloid where they investigate the tabloid reporters who aren't celebrities.

That would be my idea of a harmonious Earth. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

James Logan

06-26-2002, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Cyclonus:
This is a welcome surprise. In my eyes, it only makes her sexier. I'd love to see her in a juicy lesbian role, but since she plans to give up on acting I don't think that will happen.

Second that all the way (every damn letter of it! lol)

Scarface98.9

06-26-2002, 01:48 PM

maybe George Lucas can write in some lesbo scenes in Episode 3. he'd get a lot more people seeing it, that's for sure

ColinM

06-26-2002, 01:54 PM

What she said sounds like jthe kind of thing a girl would write in a diary, not something she'd tell the press. Strange.

Not that I mind, mind you...

06-26-2002, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by Linus*likes*noise:
See, if we all just stop buying/reading that bullshit-trash-nonsense, there would be no reason to take up space on a good message board like this. Why even mention something like that, it should be expected to be pure rubish, nothing else, much less.

It's too bad most people worry about other people's lives more than their own...
...what a fuckin' world...

Firstly - Why even mention something like that? Perhaps because it had something to do with the topic, and how the media tends to over-blow these kinds of things.

Secondly - I know it's trash, and I didn't buy the paper - There are things called shop shelves, I wonder if you've seen any.

In my reasoning, it was a perfectly acceptable post that addresed the media's current concern with all this bull-shit, and if you couldn't sense the rather tongue-in-cheek tone of my post, then there you go.

P.S - I don't know where you get the sense that I, or others, worry about others people's lives more than my/our own, this is just a topic on a rather silly subject, don't get in a twist about it, I'm certainly not.

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Linus*likes*noise

06-26-2002, 08:58 PM

Firstly, Dudes and duders, I have no problem with this thread or anyones posts, I am merly tyring to get my opinion out about respectable artists being destroyed by media.

Kinda ironic eh?

And secondly ak,(this isn't your post, is it? whatever, peace brother..)yes I have heard of shop shelves, I have also heard of the bolevard in front of my house where the garbage goes every week.

But I do not go and inspect it all for my own guilty pleasures...

...even if its a lesbians garbage http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

So I guess it's my problem worrying about other people worrying about other peoples lives too much. Damn it sucks to be human!

Maybe in Episode 3 Anakin gets seduced by the dark side after hearing that his girl eats rug... and doesn't invite him to watch.
lol
I think that would turn any man evil...

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Tuukka

06-27-2002, 05:36 AM

I remember how I read a interview from Moby some time before he started dating Natalie, and he told in it that he has a thing for anal sex and usually does it with the women he is dating. It's starting to seem that our little Natalie is not so pure and innocent after all... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

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James Logan

06-27-2002, 07:14 AM

LOL Tuukka. I was just thinking, in a couple of days, Natalie "The Girl Next Door" Portman just turned into Natalie "Hot 'n Juicy" Portman lol.

Jack Tripper

06-27-2002, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by Tuukka:
[B]I remember how I read a interview from Moby some time before he started dating Natalie, and he told in it that he has a thing for anal sex and usually does it with the women he is dating. 

So that's what he's talking about when he sings "South Side".

Buck Turgidson

07-01-2002, 02:52 AM

Does anyone else think that working for months on end with girly-man Hayden Christopher was what opened her eyes to the charms of the distaff side?

YF Manson

07-01-2002, 06:35 PM

Lol, actually I have heard rumors that Hayden is gay but that could be a load of BS. Who knows?

GoddessK8E

07-22-2002, 01:48 AM

Lesbian scenes in movies are just that: scenes. They are no more real than two people pretending.
And as for Natalie Portman, I am glad she has that opinion, it is my personal one as well, and I am proud that she could voice it, but then you had to go and ruin it by adding your male comments, like "Now if only we could see some of that action." Gracious, can you not just appreciate what she said from a humanistic viewpoint, and not a perverse one?

Grebdron

07-23-2002, 01:10 PM

I thought she said she hasn't explored the lesbian side yet. She has if she's done the nasty with that chick Moby. Oh, wait...

LAW

07-24-2002, 12:06 AM

She has a rectangular smile. Not so pretty.

kenner436

07-24-2002, 10:52 AM

Let's put that in the next Star Wars movie!!!

Kimmy

07-24-2002, 07:29 PM

even if it's true and you believe it, would that be so bad because do you know how many people are gay i mean, we past the '90 http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif
once on my school the topic of the confersation was being gay and a lot of people still think that it's not normal
i don't mind as long as they don't stare at my but http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
i know a few gay people and i don't mind, why should i? i think it's good of natalie portman that she said(if it's not a rumor)
you go girl http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Horror whore

07-24-2002, 09:22 PM

Did anyone see her MTV commercial with Jimmy Fallon?! Did look like a lesbian there... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

EBastard

07-24-2002, 10:03 PM

Originally posted by Horror whore:
Did anyone see her MTV commercial with Jimmy Fallon?! Did look like a lesbian there... http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gifNot me! DO TELL!

Jay_visigoth

07-25-2002, 07:59 AM

I think this topic should be stopped! C'mon people let's go to "The Actors/Actresses you've jerked of the most" by Jame Logan...

I got no problem with her being a lesbian. Woody Allen could come up with a few Jew-Lesbian jokes, i think...(she is a Jew right?)

JV

Mike

07-25-2002, 01:21 PM

traminus

07-27-2002, 07:55 AM

Shes not a lesbian.Rolling stone magazine asked her "Have you ever wondered, growing up, whether you were gay?".They just took quotes from
her answer and used them out of context in their own silly article.Find the full article at www.natalie (http://www.natalie) portman.com

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traminus

07-27-2002, 08:21 AM

No not www.natalie-portman.net (http://www.natalie-portman.net)
I mean www.natalieportman.com (http://www.natalieportman.com)

Zed

07-27-2002, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by traminus:
Shes not a lesbian.Rolling stone magazine asked her "Have you ever wondered, growing up, whether you were gay?".They just took quotes from
her answer and used them out of context in their own silly article.Find the full article at www.natalie-portman.net (http://www.natalie-portman.net)

Well, you really should ask for a Public Relationship work to her agent!!!! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif (just a joke of course).

The interview is good, and I also think that many schmoes here didn't buy all this lesbian stuff.....they were just kidding about it.

But some thing (now seriously talking) is true. She's trying hardly to left his "innocent girl" image behind, possibly trying to get some good rols and leave the "Star Wars" stereotype behind.

Possibly she's not lesbian.....but is also possible that her statement wasn't previously meditated.

APzombie

07-27-2002, 12:29 PM

She should do more movies like Heat and The Proffesional, she was great in those.

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Scarface98.9

07-27-2002, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by APzombie:
She should do more movies like Heat and The Proffesional, she was great in those.

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she was good in the Professional, but she was in a thankless role in Heat. she was in for like 2 scenes, excluding the bath scene. she didn't even really have an ending when u think about it. but I do agree, this topic must be stopped

Number1 Nat Fan

08-22-2002, 11:45 PM

Alot of you guys are really sick thinking a person with as many moral ethics as natalie should be in practically a porno.I have heard alot about her and done a heck of alot of research and she is a great person.And that didn't mean she was definatly gay.It could of meant she had a high gay tolerance which is good.And it was very smart what she said(if it wasn't a tabloid)what does it matter who you fall in love with as long as your happy?

electriclite

08-23-2002, 01:48 AM

Well after reading all the scintillating posts on this "arousing" thread, I just have one thing to say:

Men. You're all dirty little whores and sluts. The whole lot of you! http://www.joblo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Tuukka

08-23-2002, 01:48 AM

Well it seems fairly obvious to me that Natalie Portman is partially bi, if she says something like that. And so what? Nearly every woman I know personally is more or less bi. Female homosexuality is culturally considered as more acceptable than male homosexuality, which is why it's more common. Natalie's bisexuality doesn't downgrade her in any way.

Witchproject

08-23-2002, 02:48 PM

Im actually a regular poster on "www.natalie-portman.net", I post under the name Blair (my real name).
As for all of this topic, you guys are wasting her time. I heard that she just said that and it got to a paper. But I could have it mixed up.
Besides, people say those sort of things so that they dont offend others. If this -was- to the press, answering a question, and she had said she was horribly offended by the thought of having lesbian sex, she would be cursed in the eyes of the media
In all likelyhood, she took a bullet.

JoBlo

09-06-2002, 04:03 PM

BUMP! (for new forum purposes)

Grebdron

09-06-2002, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Number1 Nat Fan:
Alot of you guys are really sick thinking a person with as many moral ethics as natalie should be in practically a porno.I have heard alot about her and done a heck of alot of research and she is a great person.And that didn't mean she was definatly gay.It could of meant she had a high gay tolerance which is good.And it was very smart what she said(if it wasn't a tabloid)what does it matter who you fall in love with as long as your happy?

A person who appears in porno automatically has no moral ethics? A bit shortsighted, maybe. And I think people are actually complimenting Ms. Portman by saying they would enjoy seeing her in the buff. Nobody's asking her or telling her to fuck a donkey.

flowrchild

09-06-2002, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Tuukka:
Well it seems fairly obvious to me that Natalie Portman is partially bi, if she says something like that. And so what? Nearly every woman I know personally is more or less bi. Female homosexuality is culturally considered as more acceptable than male homosexuality, which is why it's more common. Natalie's bisexuality doesn't downgrade her in any way.

Why is she automatically bisexual because she said she wouldn't immediately close herself off to 50% of the population? That is her being open-minded, not secretly lusting after women. You guys are reading what she said wrong because it feeds into some girl-on-girl fantasy of yours.

Tuukka

09-07-2002, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by flowrchild:
Why is she automatically bisexual because she said she wouldn't immediately close herself off to 50% of the population? That is her being open-minded, not secretly lusting after women. You guys are reading what she said wrong because it feeds into some girl-on-girl fantasy of yours.



I'm just being logical. If she is not interested in women even a bit, she would have said something like "I'm not interested in women, but I think people have the right to date and have sex with anyone they want to". That would prove that she is open-minded, but wouldn't hint at bi-sexuality.

BUT she intentionally said that she doesn't want to close herself off from women. Why would she say something like that if she doesn't find women attractive at all? I don't see what's the big deal. She finds women erotically attractive at least to a certain point. About 80-90% of the young women I personally know think like that. Bi-sexuality is very common among women. Big deal.

BubbaStrangelove

09-07-2002, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Tuukka:
I'm just being logical. If she is not interested in women even a bit, she would have said something like "I'm not interested in women, but I think people have the right to date and have sex with anyone they want to". That would prove that she is open-minded, but wouldn't hint at bi-sexuality.

BUT she intentionally said that she doesn't want to close herself off from women. Why would she say something like that if she doesn't find women attractive at all? I don't see what's the big deal. She finds women erotically attractive at least to a certain point. About 80-90% of the young women I personally know think like that. Bi-sexuality is very common among women. Big deal.



I think you guys are looking waaayyy too far into this. It isn't like she said that J-Lo has a great ass and she wouldn't mind getting her face up in there.

She gave a non-offensive subjective statement. Maybe Moby taught her some tolerance, and she is spreading the word. What I got from that sentence, which you guys have given so much fantastical speculation to, was that she doesn't condemn the homosexual lifestyle, not that she's making plans to date women.

This reminds me of people saying Haley Joel Osmond is gay because he had a picture of him hugging Kevin Spacey. What you people are preaching is suspicion, not speculation.

And Tuuka, you context bothers me as there us a lot of subtext to the effect of: "It's okay if Portman is a lebian, because most people are okay with lesbians. If she were male, and expressing this. THEN there should be concern."

I assume you're not like that, but that is excactly what you said in different terms.

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flowrchild

09-07-2002, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Tuukka:
I'm just being logical. If she is not interested in women even a bit, she would have said something like "I'm not interested in women, but I think people have the right to date and have sex with anyone they want to". That would prove that she is open-minded, but wouldn't hint at bi-sexuality.

BUT she intentionally said that she doesn't want to close herself off from women. Why would she say something like that if she doesn't find women attractive at all? I don't see what's the big deal. She finds women erotically attractive at least to a certain point. About 80-90% of the young women I personally know think like that. Bi-sexuality is very common among women. Big deal.



Ok, case in point. I am a 21 year old heterosexual female, very similar to Natalie Portman. I think women are beautiful, and I have even wondered for a moment or 2 if I was attracted to them. However, I am sexually attracted to guys. There is a difference between finding someone attractive, and getting a sensation that makes you want to sleep with them. Two entirely different ballparks.

All Natalie basically said is that she wouldn't completely close herself off to a woman if she met one who embodied everything she wanted. That is pretty vague, and not implying much. I would go so far as to say the same thing she did, even knowing myself that I don't have sexual feelings for women. I can say right now that I am not attracted to guys 40 years older than me, but I wouldn't definitely write someone off if they were what I wanted.

That is what I mean, it is a VAGUE comment. And not all of your female friends are bisexual, they are probably just more open-minded in the same way we are. Perhaps males would express the same sort of open-mindedness too if there weren't such blatent male homophobia drilled into us from day 1.

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Tuukka

09-08-2002, 05:44 AM

"What I got from that sentence, which you guys have given so much fantastical speculation to, was that she doesn't condemn the homosexual lifestyle, not that she's making plans to date women.

This reminds me of people saying Haley Joel Osmond is gay because he had a picture of him hugging Kevin Spacey. What you people are preaching is suspicion, not speculation."

RE: Well, I only know *WHAT SHE SAID*. If she *MEANT* that she doesn't have bi-sexual tendencies, but she accepts bi-sexuality, why didn't she say so? She on purpose chose not to say so.

It's not me who is reading some hidden meanings to what she said, it's you who does so. You are basicly saying that she didn't mean what she said. How do you know that?

"I've never dated a woman or anything like it. But I think it's much more the person that you fall in love with and why would you close yourself off to 50-per-cent of people?"

That is what she said. Let's examine it. "I've never dated a woman or anything like it." means that she has never had any bi-sexual experiences. "But I think it's much more the person that you fall in love with and why would you close yourself off to 50-per-cent of people?" means that she doesn't consider the sex of a person is as important as personality when she falls in love with someone. The sex of the person doesn't matter to her as much as personality. How can you possible misinterpret that? It means that she is willing to date a woman if the woman has a kind of personality Natalie can fall in love with. Frankly, I don't think she is willing to date a wonderful female personality if she is not able to get sexually aroused by a woman.

And if she is able to get turned on by women and doesn't consider it important whether her object of desire is male or female, then she is bi-sexual.

"And Tuuka, you context bothers me as there us a lot of subtext to the effect of: "It's okay if Portman is a lebian, because most people are okay with lesbians. If she were male, and expressing this. THEN there should be concern."

I assume you're not like that, but that is excactly what you said in different terms.

RE: You are misinterpreting me. I said:

Well it seems fairly obvious to me that Natalie Portman is partially bi, if she says something like that. And so what? Nearly every woman I know personally is more or less bi. Female homosexuality is culturally considered as more acceptable than male homosexuality, which is why it's more common. Natalie's bisexuality doesn't downgrade her in any way.

...Which means that female bi-sexuality is in general considered socially more accetable than male bi-sexuality. Personally I don't see the difference, but this *IS* how the society in general thinks. So for women I know it's more easy to admit their bi-sexuality than it is for the men I know. I also think that for Natalie it is much easier to admit her bi-sexual tendencies than it is for a famous male actor of the same age, because the response from the public is much more friendly to her.

Tuukka

09-08-2002, 06:06 AM

"Ok, case in point. I am a 21 year old heterosexual female, very similar to Natalie Portman. I think women are beautiful, and I have even wondered for a moment or 2 if I was attracted to them. However, I am sexually attracted to guys. There is a difference between finding someone attractive, and getting a sensation that makes you want to sleep with them. Two entirely different ballparks.

RE: Most people are more or less on the grey area with their sexual orientation. In other words, all people prefer either male or female sex. A person can be 80% heterosexual and 20% bi-sexual, or vice versa. Personally I consider myself 98% heterosexual and 2% bi-sexual. I have never been attracted to a man, but I don't resent the idea either. It might happen some day.

However I would NEVER say in an interview what Natalie said, because the sex DOES matter to me, the sex of a person is more important to me than his/her personality.

And Natalie surely thinks very hard what she says in an interview with the most well known pop-culture magazine in the world.

"All Natalie basically said is that she wouldn't completely close herself off to a woman if she met one who embodied everything she wanted. That is pretty vague, and not implying much."

RE: That is NOT what she said. She said:

"I've never dated a woman or anything like it. But I think it's much more the person that you fall in love with and why would you close yourself off to 50-per-cent of people?"

You put words to her mouth. She never said that "she wouldn't completely close herself off to a woman if she met one who embodied everything she wanted.". You are implying that she would *maybe* date a woman if she would find a *perfect* personality (which of course doesn't even exist.). That is not what she said at all.

"I would go so far as to say the same thing she did, even knowing myself that I don't have sexual feelings for women. I can say right now that I am not attracted to guys 40 years older than me, but I wouldn't definitely write someone off if they were what I wanted."

RE: So, it doesn't matter what sex your object of desire is? But you just said that "I don't have sexual feelings for women.". This is the exact opposite of what Natalie said. The sex of a person doesn't matter to her, it's the personality she feels attracted to. Since she hasn't have dated any women, she most likely is attracted more to male personalities than female personalities.

"And not all of your female friends are bisexual, they are probably just more open-minded in the same way we are."

RE: Not all, but most of them are more or less bi-sexual. However, they are all MORE attracted to men. This is why they primarily date men and not women. There is a *BIG* difference between accepting bi-sexuality and being TURNED ON by it. If the latter happens to you, then you have bi-sexual tendencies.

Frankly, no woman is going to date a woman if she doesn't find women sexually attractive. Natalie is willing to date a woman, so she finds women sexually attractive. So she has bi-sexual tendencies. There is really no getting around it, that's how it goes.

"Perhaps males would express the same sort of open-mindedness too if there weren't such blatent male homophobia drilled into us from day 1."

RE: Most certainly they would.

I don't really see why anyone would feel the need to "defend" Natalie, since there is nothing wrong with having bi-sexual tendencies. She is apparently very comfortable with it, maybe others should be comfortable with it as well.

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BubbaStrangelove

09-08-2002, 10:49 AM

Let me see if I understand your logic Tuuka.

I'll use another example because poor Portman has had enough words put in her mouth (along with speculation that she's putting something else there)

Chris Rock, when refering to homosexuality, said, "Ain't nothing wrong with that."

So what you are saying Tuuka:

1. Chris Rock said there isn't anything wrong with being gay, which means he is okay with the homosexual lifestyle.

2. If he's okay with it that means he would see no problem with someone partaking in it..

3. If he sees no problem with someone partaking in it, and he is part of the proverbial "someone", that mean he is including himself in that statement.

4. Items 1 - 3 indicate that Chris Rock at least has homosexual tendencies.

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"I've never dated a woman or anything like it"

Maybe that means "I've never dated a woman, or even considered it until you asked me about it.."

"anything like it" -- what does that mean, Tuuka? Anything like what? What else could she be talking about?To me it sounds like she is saying, "I've never dated women, or anything close to dating a woman. I mean, I've never even thought about dating women."

we have no idea what context she said that ONE SENTENCE in, or to what she is refering to when she says "anything like it."

If someone can get the entire article, instead of this one sentence, I think this topic would be a bit less speculative.

I have no desire to sit around debating semantics, or anything like it.

She didn't say, "I dig chicks" -- point blank.

And I just noticed that your from Finland, Tuuka. Maybe your demographic is different than Portman's.

flowrchild

09-08-2002, 11:27 AM

Tuukka-

The reason we are "Defending" Natalie is because we think you are blowing what she said out of proportion.

Here's a thought--maybe she thinks right now that she would be kinda open to it, but she wouldn't actually be able to go through with it. Maybe she thinks it is only the personality that matters, but if she tried to be intimate with a girl, it wouldn't be a successful venture. After all, you can't really say that you like something until you do it at least once.

I think you should rent Kissing Jessica Stein because it totally embodies this entire discussion.

BubbaStrangelove

09-08-2002, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by flowrchild:
Tuukka-

The reason we are "Defending" Natalie is because we think you are blowing what she said out of proportion.


For example, just because a girl says that she likes having sex with men, that wouldn't mean she likes to have sex with the entire Dallas football team all at once.

don't make mountains out of molehills.

[This message has been edited by BubbaStrangelove (edited 09-08-2002).]

Tuukka

09-08-2002, 03:53 PM

"Let me see if I understand your logic Tuuka.
I'll use another example because poor Portman has had enough words put in her mouth (along with speculation that she's putting something else there)

Chris Rock, when refering to homosexuality, said, "Ain't nothing wrong with that."

So what you are saying Tuuka:

1. Chris Rock said there isn't anything wrong with being gay, which means he is okay with the homosexual lifestyle.

2. If he's okay with it that means he would see no problem with someone partaking in it..

RE: Yes.

3. If he sees no problem with someone partaking in it, and he is part of the proverbial "someone", that mean he is including himself in that statement.

RE: I don't really get what you are saying here. Where exactly did Rock say that he includes himself to "someone"? He didn't. Where as Natalie *DID* include herself to "someone". So your example doesn't quite work.

"I've never dated a woman or anything like it"

Maybe that means "I've never dated a woman, or even considered it until you asked me about it.."

"anything like it" -- what does that mean, Tuuka? Anything like what? What else could she be talking about?To me it sounds like she is saying, "I've never dated women, or anything close to dating a woman. I mean, I've never even thought about dating women."

RE: To me it obviously sounds that she hasn't ever dated woman or done "anything like it". Quite obviously "anything like it" means "anything like DATING a woman". In other words: sexual behaviour with a woman.

"Anything" refers to the sentence in which it is. To what else could it refer to?

Where did you read "I've never even thought about dating women."? She said that she doesn't want to cut out the possibility that she would date a woman. So in fact she is suggesting that she *has* thought about the possibility that she would date a woman in the future.

we have no idea what context she said that ONE SENTENCE in, or to what she is refering to when she says "anything like it."

If someone can get the entire article, instead of this one sentence, I think this topic would be a bit less speculative.

RE: I think it can be found on the Rolling Stone homepage. I'm only referring to what I *do* know, I can't refer to anything else. Same counts for you as well.

I have no desire to sit around debating semantics, or anything like it.

RE: I think we can only debate what she said. I'm not twisting her words, I only refer to things that she *did* say.

"She didn't say, "I dig chicks" -- point blank."

RE: She said that she is attracted to personality, not the sex of a person. If I would have to have sex with an average looking man or woman of my age, and the man would be a very charming personality and the woman would be unattractive asshole, I would still have sex with the woman. Because the sex of a person is more important to me than his/her personality. Natalie has a different attitude to it.

Tuukka

09-08-2002, 04:02 PM

"Tuukka-
The reason we are "Defending" Natalie is because we think you are blowing what she said out of proportion.

RE: I don't see the problem. Maybe it's because I find bi-sexuality to be perfectly normal. It's not an issue, so there is nothing I could blow out of proportion. We could as well be arguing on whether Natalie is really a blond or not. Me claiming that she is a brunette could hardly be called as blowing things out of proportion.

"Here's a thought--maybe she thinks right now that she would be kinda open to it, but she wouldn't actually be able to go through with it. Maybe she thinks it is only the personality that matters, but if she tried to be intimate with a girl, it wouldn't be a successful venture. After all, you can't really say that you like something until you do it at least once.

RE: She might not find it as interesting and enjoyable as she thought beforehand. It happens to many women. They try it out once and then decide that sex is more fun and exciting with men.

But this doesn't mean they don't have bi-sexual tendencies anymore, they just realize that in the end they prefer men over women. Why would they spend time and effort in order to get laid with women, when it's much more fun (and much easier)to get laid with men.

Since Natalie has only dated men so far, I find very likely that she is primarily hetero-sexual with only some minor bi-sexual tendencies. She might never act those tendencies in practice.

I think you should rent Kissing Jessica Stein because it totally embodies this entire discussion.

RE: Haven't seen it, but I prefer to refer to real life rather than movies in these kind of discussions. I have had plenty of in-depth discussions about bi-sexuality with both women and men. It makes a good conversation topic.