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Fuadlives

09-13-2002, 04:23 PM

Well, it is common practice in Hollywood (even more so in the older days) for gay and lesbian actors to get married as a cover. In fact, a lot of gay people in all walks of life get married because our society preaches violence towards gay people and unacceptance towards anything non-christian. Remember it is still illegal to practice gay sex in a majority of states in America and people are still thrown in jail for it here. Just because gay people are on television shows doesn't mean being gay is accepted in our society. Also, gay actors have been playing straight their entire lives just to keep from getting beaten to death so they are very good at it on film. Hell, there was a time when people were shocked beyond belief that Liberace was gay not to mention Elton John.

Big Pudge

09-13-2002, 05:56 PM

Originally posted by Horror_chick:
Ian McKellan is gay?!?!?! I had no idea!

i have to double that and add a "WTF"??

Nate6

09-13-2002, 05:58 PM

I'm surprised at how many people had no idea about Ian McKellen being as gay as a three-dollar bill!

edonline

09-13-2002, 06:47 PM

Ian McKellan has been "out of the closet" for almost a decade, if not longer. I suppose it's more well known in the UK since he was a vocal opponent against Clause 28 as well as the big fuss when it was announced that was to be knighted by QEII.

Grebdron

09-14-2002, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by Fuadlives:
Well, it is common practice in Hollywood (even more so in the older days) for gay and lesbian actors to get married as a cover. In fact, a lot of gay people in all walks of life get married because our society preaches violence towards gay people and unacceptance towards anything non-christian. Remember it is still illegal to practice gay sex in a majority of states in America and people are still thrown in jail for it here. Just because gay people are on television shows doesn't mean being gay is accepted in our society. Also, gay actors have been playing straight their entire lives just to keep from getting beaten to death so they are very good at it on film. Hell, there was a time when people were shocked beyond belief that Liberace was gay not to mention Elton John.

Our society preaches violence towards gay people? Maybe in Ohio. The vast majority of americans are not that ignorant. The fact that a few idiots violate gay and lesbian people does not make the rest of us homophobic. It is widely covered in the media because it is NOT accepted.

54UNeedhelp54

09-18-2002, 07:56 PM

Vin Deisel is GAY! ITS MY LUCKY DAY http://www.joblo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Nate6

09-18-2002, 08:03 PM

How is Vin Diesel gay? Just curious, because I really don't get that from him.

Hypothermia

09-19-2002, 12:00 AM

I get the vibe that Nate is. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

54UNeedhelp54

09-19-2002, 12:52 AM

Guys check this. I ran a back ground check on Vin, and in an interview with a magizine in 1998, he claims, he is a bisexual, coming out of the closet, and he FINDS men more attractive that women, but will be hiding it over the years if he gets famous, THAT IS SO HOT!

Nate6

09-19-2002, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by Hypothermia:
I get the vibe that Nate is. http://www.joblo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Eh?

Big Pudge

09-19-2002, 06:48 PM

VIN is gay????? that man could have pry any girl in the world.
i mean just because you cant act, doesnt mean u have to smoke the pole

flowrchild

09-19-2002, 07:23 PM

Vin Diesel couldn't possibly be any more gay, unless he put on a diva-like fur coat and talked with a lisp. Oh wait, looks like he beat me to the punch.

Shayde

10-18-2002, 01:54 PM

I call bs on vin being gay. Sounds like a rumour some moron would start because they are jealous of Vin. I see it all the time on this board how guys slam male celebs because the celeb has everything they wish they had, it kind of annoys me how pathetic people can be.

Tom Samborski

10-18-2002, 07:47 PM

Two Words: Rupert Everett

TheHitcher2

10-19-2002, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by Shayde
I call bs on vin being gay. Sounds like a rumour some moron would start because they are jealous of Vin. I see it all the time on this board how guys slam male celebs because the celeb has everything they wish they had, it kind of annoys me how pathetic people can be.

Yeah...and it's kinda pathetic how homophobic you are.

Michael_myers

10-20-2002, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by areyoubeingserved
I'd just liek to add Anthony Perkins, the man was married, How could he be gay? Don't give me any of this repressed homosexual stuff either. Plus he starred in one of the most strikingly hetro roles in cinema, a sexually confused murderer who dresses as his mother!

I have studied this, and I think Perkins wasn't gay. he picked up AIDS some how though....

Shayde

10-20-2002, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by TheHitcher2
Yeah...and it's kinda pathetic how homophobic you are.

Whatever, there was nothing in my post to suggest I am homophobic. People call guys like vin gay to try and make them look bad so if anyone is homophobic it would be the people calling vin gay.

TheHitcher2

10-20-2002, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Shayde
Whatever, there was nothing in my post to suggest I am homophobic. People call guys like vin gay to try and make them look bad so if anyone is homophobic it would be the people calling vin gay.

I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I just want you to understand what homophobia means. If you think that being called gay makes you "look bad" then you obviously think that the term has a negative connotation...therefore you ARE making some pretty homophobic remarks.

Nate6

10-20-2002, 04:01 PM

Originally posted by Michael_myers
I have studied this, and I think Perkins wasn't gay. he picked up AIDS some how though....

Perkins wasn't gay, he was married for 19 years and has a couple of kids (in fact, his wife was killed on September 11, 2001). Since he was married when he caught AIDS, he probably got it through either a blood transfusion (which is the most likely scenario) or a prostitute.

James Logan

10-20-2002, 04:19 PM

How 'bout just letting people sleep with whoever they want to sleep with? :p

TheHitcher2

10-20-2002, 07:39 PM

Originally posted by James Logan
How 'bout just letting people sleep with whoever they want to sleep with? :p

I agree, JL. Free love for all.

Shayde

10-20-2002, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by TheHitcher2
I'm not trying to start an argument here, but I just want you to understand what homophobia means. If you think that being called gay makes you "look bad" then you obviously think that the term has a negative connotation...therefore you ARE making some pretty homophobic remarks.

First of all I never said I think that being called gay makes someone look bad in my eyes. What I said was "People call guys like vin gay to try and make them look bad". However I think it is obvious that when someone calls a guy like Vin (a guy who is well known for his tough guy image) gay they are trying to make him look bad. I think despite what you've said you know that. If you don't then you're certainly more naive than the average american.

And I'm used to this type of behavior. Whenever a guy like Vin makes it inevitably guys I know get jealous and when we're hanging around if a girl mentions a guy like vin and how hot he is some lamer will always say "O he's gay you know. Oh it's true I heard from (insert some BS here)". I just get a little sick of that is all.

54UNeedhelp54

10-21-2002, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Shayde
First of all I never said I think that being called gay makes someone look bad in my eyes. What I said was "People call guys like vin gay to try and make them look bad". However I think it is obvious that when someone calls a guy like Vin (a guy who is well known for his tough guy image) gay they are trying to make him look bad. I think despite what you've said you know that. If you don't then you're certainly more naive than the average american.

And I'm used to this type of behavior. Whenever a guy like Vin makes it inevitably guys I know get jealous and when we're hanging around if a girl mentions a guy like vin and how hot he is some lamer will always say "O he's gay you know. Oh it's true I heard from (insert some BS here)". I just get a little sick of that is all.

DUDE, Give it up you homophobe, Let people think what they want to think, just cause you think you r right, dosent mean you are suddenly the god of the message board. :mad:

TheHitcher2

10-21-2002, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by 54UNeedhelp54
DUDE, Give it up you homophobe, Let people think what they want to think, just cause you think you r right, dosent mean you are suddenly the god of the message board. :mad:

Dude, 54, we all have our own opinions...we're just discussing the matter...not throwing punches.

Try to be a little more considerate with your words...

BadCoverVersion

10-21-2002, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by Nate6
Perkins wasn't gay, he was married for 19 years and has a couple of kids (in fact, his wife was killed on September 11, 2001). Since he was married when he caught AIDS, he probably got it through either a blood transfusion (which is the most likely scenario) or a prostitute.

I'm sorry...The statement doesn't make sense...You seem to be saying "Okay...Perkins couldn't possible have been gay but let's just assume he was probably unfaithful....Ah but he couldn't have caught the HIV virus from any old bird...No, She'd have to be a hooker!

Gay Men do GET married. It's a fact!

Not all PROSTITUTES have AIDS. That's also a fact!

Some "normal" women actually have the HIV Virus! Fact again!

I'm not suggesting that Perkins was gay (I would have to find out a bit more about the bloke)...But I'm afraid the suggestion is perfectly plausible!

There is a 1/18 chance that a woman will pass the HIV Virus onto a Man during intercourse...The odds increase dramatically when we look at Gay Sex! Only a very small percentage of Men contract aids during heterosexual intercourse. I can understand why many people have doubted his sexuality.

I don't really want to get into a heated debate here...and I'm not having a dig at you Nate6, You know I think you're a decent bloke and all. I just found your wording rather narrow-minded...although it probably wasn't intentional!

Anyway...No offence caused hopefully!

Big Pudge

10-25-2002, 03:02 PM

Originally posted by 54UNeedhelp54
DUDE, Give it up you homophobe, Let people think what they want to think, just cause you think you r right, dosent mean you are suddenly the god of the message board. :mad:

WELL, u say "let people think what they want to think" but u also condemn him for being a "homophobe"??!!

and i will admit it.. i do consider my self a HOMOPHOBE. i can be kew w/ a homosexual, AS long as they arent a flaming homosexual, u know what i mean?? i have had 2 of my fridns turn out to be pole smokers, one of them tunred into the biggest flaming homo i had ever seen, i havtn talked to him in over 2 years (since i found out he was gay) and than there is another one of my friends who we would always make fun of homo's cuz it was funny, he turned out to be gay also, i havnt hung out qw/ him since i found out he was gay, BUT i still talk to him on occasion. it is a shock tho, someone you know, whop you always made fun of homosexuals w/, turns out to be one himself.. it really does feel like u had ben lied to.

BadCoverVersion

10-25-2002, 06:05 PM

Originally posted by Big Pudge
WELL, u say "let people think what they want to think" but u also condemn him for being a "homophobe"??!!

and i will admit it.. i do consider my self a HOMOPHOBE. i can be kew w/ a homosexual, AS long as they arent a flaming homosexual, u know what i mean?? i have had 2 of my fridns turn out to be pole smokers, one of them tunred into the biggest flaming homo i had ever seen, i havtn talked to him in over 2 years (since i found out he was gay) and than there is another one of my friends who we would always make fun of homo's cuz it was funny, he turned out to be gay also, i havnt hung out qw/ him since i found out he was gay, BUT i still talk to him on occasion. it is a shock tho, someone you know, whop you always made fun of homosexuals w/, turns out to be one himself.. it really does feel like u had ben lied to.

Why the fuck do you think they kept their sexuality a secret...???

They obviously "lied" to you for a reason love! You didn't even give them a bastard chance...Seriously, what difference does it make, they are still the SAME lads. You turned your back on them when they were at their most vulnerable...It's truly sad that you can't accept these "friends" for who they really are. Is it worth it?

I'm not judging you...I don't know you. I'm just trying to give you a wee bit of advice...THEY WERE YOUR FRIENDS...They didn't set out to deceive you, and being GAY doesn't make an ounce of difference.

I truly hope you can learn to accept them...You're probably a decent geezer and your opinion may change, I suggest you have a good ponder at some point. Life's far too short love!

All the best ;)

BadCoverVersion

10-25-2002, 06:07 PM

Look...I know I sounded a tad irate in the previous post, sorry and all!

It was purely frustration...I don't want to come off sounding like an arsehole!

Big Pudge...No offence intended.

Nate6

10-25-2002, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by BadCoverVersion
Gay Men do GET married. It's a fact!

Of course it is, especially in Hollywood.

Not all PROSTITUTES have AIDS. That's also a fact!

No, not all prostitutes have AIDS. FACT: Many, if not most, do.

Some "normal" women actually have the HIV Virus! Fact again!

That's right. But his wife didn't. So he could have been cheating with a regular woman, that's right. I should have worded it better.

I'm not suggesting that Perkins was gay (I would have to find out a bit more about the bloke)...But I'm afraid the suggestion is perfectly plausible!

Plausible? Yes. Likely? No.

There is a 1/18 chance that a woman will pass the HIV Virus onto a Man during intercourse...The odds increase dramatically when we look at Gay Sex! Only a very small percentage of Men contract aids during heterosexual intercourse. I can understand why many people have doubted his sexuality.

The odds are lower if he were straight but FACT: MORE HETEROSEXUALS HAVE HIV/AIDS THAN HOMOSEXUALS.

I don't really want to get into a heated debate here...and I'm not having a dig at you Nate6, You know I think you're a decent bloke and all. I just found your wording rather narrow-minded...although it probably wasn't intentional!

Anyway...No offence caused hopefully!

I respect your response and hope you respect mine. No offence taken.

James Logan

10-25-2002, 06:18 PM

- Prostitues can have AIDS.

- Normal people can have AIDS.

- Gay people shag.

- You have the right to like gay people or not.

- Let's just let everybody shag anyone they wanna shag, male, female, or sheep.

There ya go, discussion summed up, you can close the topic. ;)

James Logan

10-25-2002, 06:22 PM

Oh, and:

- Ian McKellen is gay, he's proud of it but doesn't show it all over the world, and we all respect him for that. ;)

Nate6

10-26-2002, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by James Logan
- Let's just let everybody shag anyone they wanna shag, male, female, or sheep.

Completely true, James. Well said.

areyoubeingserved

10-27-2002, 12:36 AM

Anthony Perkins was actually a closet homosexual, therefor the poorly sarcastic tone to my original post.

Big Pudge

10-27-2002, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by BadCoverVersion
Why the fuck do you think they kept their sexuality a secret...???

They obviously "lied" to you for a reason love! You didn't even give them a bastard chance...Seriously, what difference does it make, they are still the SAME lads. You turned your back on them when they were at their most vulnerable...It's truly sad that you can't accept these "friends" for who they really are. Is it worth it?

I'm not judging you...I don't know you. I'm just trying to give you a wee bit of advice...THEY WERE YOUR FRIENDS...They didn't set out to deceive you, and being GAY doesn't make an ounce of difference.

I truly hope you can learn to accept them...You're probably a decent geezer and your opinion may change, I suggest you have a good ponder at some point. Life's far too short love!

All the best ;)

i feel ya, we all got our won opinions, but i guess to some ppl this is a flaw in my character, BUT dont judge by what u consider a flaw in my personality, judge me by my traits u consider good and honerable!! my girlsfriend has tried to explain to me that being a homosexual isnt something they choose, they r born like that.... i cant see that... BUT she did give a very good point in her favor (didnt change my mind but still worth a mention) she said: Can you help being attracted to me? i said "well when i lost the bet, i had no choice" a few giggles but than i said " no i couldnt" and she said thats how every1 is, i am attracted to females, and gay guys are naturally attracted to males, BUT i still jjust dont see, maybe if there woulda been hints towards their sexuality, thye made fun of homo's w/ the rest of us, never once did they give hint that they were in fact, homos! i ca be friends w/ homos, i really could, if my best friend in teh world told me tm he was gay, but he still acted the same way he has always acted, dresses the same way as he has always dressed, everything would be kew, i could never go out w/ him n his bf, that would to weird, but we would still be real close. but the 1 friend who i dont talk to at all any more turned into a BIG flamer (he has scavies in his bung hole from what ive heard about him....) and my other friend i made a rule w/ him, we dont talk about personal stuff, we never really did, but now it is a def not, we always just talked about movies and shitlike that, he is a big horror freak, and we still talk about that shit, we talked just yesterday about THE RING.

tmp

11-01-2002, 05:02 PM

I don't know if Vin is gay, but I do know that there is a guy that is a dead ringer for him that I see at the West hollywood Pavillions grocery store pretty frequently who sets my gaydar pinging. It could be someone that only looks like him, this guy is at least 6' 2" and most actors are pretty short. So, if it's not Vin, this guy could be the cause of a lot of the rumors.

Just a thought.

flashplanet

11-03-2002, 10:50 AM

I would of thought Tom Cruise was straight, but did you see that jacket??? Stop denying it.

notchreturns

11-03-2002, 07:19 PM

I'd be quite shocked if Elijah Wood was taking a peek when using the urinal....

flashplanet

11-04-2002, 05:41 PM

*shudders*
horrible....horrible images

edonline

11-04-2002, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by notchreturns
I'd be quite shocked if Elijah Wood was taking a peek when using the urinal....

He said Elijah WOOD. Heh heh, heh heh.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Ss/0115641/1-6.jpg

FeydRautha

11-05-2002, 07:32 AM

I watched a biography special on Anthony Perkins on the History Channel recently, and friends and family came forward on this show to confirm that he was indeed gay. His best friend from his theatre years in New York said he was dating another young actor at the time. But he was terrified any public knowledge of this would ruin his film career, so he kept it quiet.

Janet Leigh was also interviewed, and said she knew he was gay, they even discussed it on the set of "Psycho". She probably sympathised because she was married to Tony Curtis, another Hollywood actor who batted for both teams.

He married one of his closest friends, and to all their friends' surprise they fell in love and had a long, happy married life together, producing 2 children. (In my book that makes him bi.) But he did have relations with men during their marriage, which is where he probably picked up the HIV virus that killed him.

Personally, I don't give a stuff if an actor's gay, straight, bi, asexual, etc... It doesn't detract from their talent, and I still enjoy their performances in the films I see them in.

lily25

11-15-2002, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by areyoubeingserved
In the vein of the other topic that's getting a flogging, I thought this would be far more interesting (for the simple reason that the other topic seems to be obly dealing with Vin Diesel, Kevin Spacey and rather disturbingly Haley Joel Osment).

Back to the top here - what does the reference to Haley Joel Osment mean? Is he gay? I thought he was in 5th grade still or somethin'.

There has been specualtion that Benicio del Toro is gay. I don't believe it. Just because you don't see photos of him "about town" with a bimbo on his arm dosen't mean he's gay, does it? I'd like to bump into him - possibly naked - someday.

Cesare

11-18-2002, 03:39 AM

Originally posted by Shayde
I call bs on vin being gay. Sounds like a rumour some moron would start because they are jealous of Vin. I see it all the time on this board how guys slam male celebs because the celeb has everything they wish they had, it kind of annoys me how pathetic people can be.

Well said. When all is said n' done, why should we really care?

Cesare

11-18-2002, 03:52 AM

Originally posted by BadCoverVersion
I'm sorry...The statement doesn't make sense...You seem to be saying "Okay...Perkins couldn't possible have been gay but let's just assume he was probably unfaithful....Ah but he couldn't have caught the HIV virus from any old bird...No, She'd have to be a hooker!

Gay Men do GET married. It's a fact!

Not all PROSTITUTES have AIDS. That's also a fact!

Some "normal" women actually have the HIV Virus! Fact again!

I'm not suggesting that Perkins was gay (I would have to find out a bit more about the bloke)...But I'm afraid the suggestion is perfectly plausible!

There is a 1/18 chance that a woman will pass the HIV Virus onto a Man during intercourse...The odds increase dramatically when we look at Gay Sex! Only a very small percentage of Men contract aids during heterosexual intercourse. I can understand why many people have doubted his sexuality.

I don't really want to get into a heated debate here...and I'm not having a dig at you Nate6, You know I think you're a decent bloke and all. I just found your wording rather narrow-minded...although it probably wasn't intentional!

Anyway...No offence caused hopefully!

I may have some info that could help clear up this matter.

I read an article on Perkins years ago, in which he said that his mother had severe emotional problems. She would hit him and yell at him, then feel bad and hug and kiss him. This apparently went on right into his adolescence. The effect of his mother's over compensating "making up" behaviour caused him to become sexually aroused. When he grew to adulthood he couldn't relate sexually to women in a normal way.

He had sexual relations with men instead, even though he did not find these encounters satisfactory. He eventually lost his virginity when he was 35 to Victroia Principle on the set of "Judge Roy Bean." He got married a few years later.

I read also that he underwent therapy during most of his adult life, as you would.

FeydRautha

11-18-2002, 06:12 AM

Originally posted by lily25
Back to the top here - what does the reference to Haley Joel Osment mean? Is he gay? I thought he was in 5th grade still or somethin'.

I was wondering the exact same thing when this thread started, but couldn't find the original thread referred to. Haley Joel Osment's just a kid - I know kids grow up fast in Hollywood, but I think he's a tad young to start speculating about his personal preferences.

And as far as I can make out, the rumours about Kevin Spacey started when he took his mother to the Oscars instead of some high-profile date. That, and he's not seriously dating at the moment (at least, not in the public eye). Honestly, who cares? The guy's a stunningly talented actor.

the movie guy

11-18-2002, 03:06 PM

Well, I didn't know Jeffery Jones was gay...

(... though I'd never thought about it before.)

areyoubeingserved

11-27-2002, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by lily25
Back to the top here - what does the reference to Haley Joel Osment mean? Is he gay? I thought he was in 5th grade still or somethin'.

I originally started this topic as a joke (who would have known?) because there was another thread going around about straight actors who you thought were gay, pretty lame, but it started getting a little insensitive and downright disturbing when peole started questioning Haley Joel Osment's sexuality and future relations. Instead of having a spit at them, I sort of opened this.